How The War On Shadows Shapes Our Cities - Cheddar Explains

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ต.ค. 2022
  • The war on skyscraper shadows has been passionately waged for years. Between light and shade, their significance is intensely debated. But in the shades of gray, what else are we losing in our cities?
    Further Reading:
    Atlas Obscura
    www.atlasobscura.com/articles...
    Harvard Law School Library
    h2o.law.harvard.edu/cases/10
    Curbed
    ny.curbed.com/2013/3/15/10263...
    AP News
    apnews.com/article/b91b590782...
    MA Legislature
    malegislature.gov/Laws/Sessio...
    San Francisco Recreation & Parks
    sfrecpark.org/DocumentCenter/...
    San Francisco Chronicle
    www.sfchronicle.com/projects/...
    Architect Magazine
    www.architectmagazine.com/pro...
    Washington Post
    www.washingtonpost.com/news/w...
    Prevision Design
    www.previsiondesign.com/shadi...
    Kron4
    www.kron4.com/san-francisco-h...
    Gothamist
    gothamist.com/news/controvers...
    Boston Herald
    www.bostonherald.com/2017/04/...
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  • @jasonbailey9139
    @jasonbailey9139 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    A Cheddar video that acknowledges that there are cities outside of New York, LA, and San Francisco? Congrats Phoenix!

    • @lilrocky2640
      @lilrocky2640 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's just a myth. We all know that Phoenix doesn't exist. It's a fable like Bigfoot or the loch Ness monster.

    • @randybobandy9828
      @randybobandy9828 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lmao I have only seen NYC cheddar videos.

    • @HoodieProduction
      @HoodieProduction ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@randybobandy9828 Also good on them to give a shout out to one of New Yorks lesser-known suburbs, Boston certainly has been up and coming in the last couple centuries.

    • @EroticInferno
      @EroticInferno ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn’t they say Chicago?

  • @Erez-the-Berez
    @Erez-the-Berez ปีที่แล้ว +129

    I’ve never seen something that seems so boring being explained so interestingly

    • @cheddar
      @cheddar  ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Thank you?

    • @Erez-the-Berez
      @Erez-the-Berez ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@cheddar LMAO it was a compliment :]

  • @josecarvajal6654
    @josecarvajal6654 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    It´s funny because being from the Caribbean, you would always prefer to be in the shade. I would love to have taller buildings so it´s more confortable to walk on the street

    • @ANTSEMUT1
      @ANTSEMUT1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Here in South East Asia we do the same.

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Here in the Philippines, I'd like shadows too. I saw a vid of a town in Iran with roofed streets and I thought, "Why don't we have that?"

    • @ANTSEMUT1
      @ANTSEMUT1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nunyabiznes33 if the Philippines is anything like Malaysia, it's because it rains a lot and the rain is super heavy horizontal rain.

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ANTSEMUT1 Yeah, I hate it when the rain bypass my umbrella by hitting me horizontally, right on the face. 😭🌧️

  • @ScienceTechComputers
    @ScienceTechComputers ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I feel like more medium density housing could address this and the housing shortage. Basically have more multi unit condos, apartments, and homes that are both shorter then sky scrappers and cheaper.

  • @tgosuke
    @tgosuke ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Urban shadows are underrated, the days be getting too hot 🔥

  • @danielmaia3559
    @danielmaia3559 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Damn you missed the Balneário Camburiu case in Brazil where they brilliantly let sky scrapers be built facing the beach which crated a massive shadow.
    They just finish a ridiculously expensive beach extension to the sea so it’s “fixed”

  • @TheDefB
    @TheDefB ปีที่แล้ว +10

    YES CHEDDAR! This is what me, as a big Chedhead has been waiting for, love these infrastructural videos, truly my favorite stuff. I'd love to see more on roads as well, but great content!

    • @cheddar
      @cheddar  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Any story ideas??

    • @TheDefB
      @TheDefB ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cheddar Well it'd be very fun to see some differences in road design between EU and US, maybe how culture and infrastucture *paved* the roads or stuff like that. Food for thought!

  • @CaptainFSU
    @CaptainFSU ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Boston's skyline is capped because of both that sunlight law and downtown's insane proximity to Logan Airport (the FAA vetos any building there above 600'). It's pathetic that we still can't get above 800' let alone having a 1000' building.

  • @sabikikasuko6636
    @sabikikasuko6636 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Homeless people: I don't have a home and yesterday I had to fight a rat for a piece of American cheese; the rat won. But hey! At least if I go to a park, I can enjoy the 5 minutes of sunlight before a police officer takes me to jail for loitering! :D Thank you, city council 😉👍

  • @NamelessProducts
    @NamelessProducts ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Would you rather live in the shade or live on the streets?

  • @dyslexiksteve2488
    @dyslexiksteve2488 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In Canary wharf there was a very good suntrap where all the bars were. A skyscraper was built and it blocked all the evening sun and made this great place cold and just not as appealing

  • @edwardblair4096
    @edwardblair4096 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is the other side of the story about the building in London with curved surfaces that actually focused sunlight and caused cars parked in the wrong place to melt.

    • @randybobandy9828
      @randybobandy9828 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol crazy

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Free heating!

    • @halycon404
      @halycon404 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Funny thing about that building. The same designer put one up in Vegas before it that was melting deck chairs and scorching woodwork. After it went up he had another design go up in China with the same problem. Three buildings, years apart, and he just kept designing things that set the area around it on fire. Has to be his life's mission to scale up the magnifying glass in the sun trick to it's absolute largest. Architect is just the only job he found where they'd pay him for his mission. I kinda salute him if that's the case, shows extreme dedication to a goal.

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@halycon404 LOL that's epic. It's like a kid that burn ants with magnifiers decided when he grow up he'd burn people instead.

    • @halycon404
      @halycon404 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nunyabiznes33 Jokes aside. I think it's on accident. All his buildings are curved designs featuring concave shapes somewhere on them. Most of the year they're fine. But for a few weeks out of the year the sun hits the concave glass part just right... not something that could really be modeled for until recently. I mean. Who models the sun looking for that extremely specific problem and then runs the simulation for where the sun is on every day of the year. Well, now days everyone does, they built software now specifically for it. If he did do it on purpose though, then my hat really goes off to him. Cause that'd have been an amazing amount of work. :)

  • @TheFoxyBard
    @TheFoxyBard ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So, Right to Light Law in 1663, eh? The Great Fire of London happened in 1666. Imagine obtaining the right to uninterrupted sunshine only to have to restart the clock and wait another twenty years because your house (and half your neighbors' houses) burned down a mere three years after this law was passed.

  • @macy1066
    @macy1066 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is interesting. One thing to keep in mind is that if hard rules about what is and is not an acceptable shadow go into place, the areas where one can put up large buildings without running afoul of the law will shoot through the roof in price. And the price is very important to housing people because it's not housing by itself. It's affordable housing that matters. Having "housing" that's great for rich people to stash wealth is not what we need.

  • @faedraemberhart5500
    @faedraemberhart5500 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Cities should get rid of these stupid rules and build enough housing, and not just luxury condos. We more than anything need low income housing in walkable areas (like near workplaces, grocery stores, parks, public transit etc). A little shade doesnt really hurt anyone but not having an affordable condo/apartment to rent or own is life changing.

    • @Sinaeb
      @Sinaeb ปีที่แล้ว

      That's not profitable

    • @faedraemberhart5500
      @faedraemberhart5500 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@meiko_kaji Affordable housing with public transit and walking distant work places, shops and mixed use zoning? Where?

    • @Sinaeb
      @Sinaeb ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@meiko_kaji affordable housing is not affordable if you have to spent 3k on transport 🤡

    • @youcansave15ormoreoncarins75
      @youcansave15ormoreoncarins75 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@meiko_kaji chiraq then and not to mention that apartments in New York are literally walk in closets apart of a historically 20 person tenement. And said walk in closet costs 2 thousand dollars a month. Nobody wants to spend 2 thousand dollars a month on a public storage unit.

  • @HuhWhat101
    @HuhWhat101 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the UK there used to be a profession called Daylight Designer. And you can always tell when a new development has had one on the development or not.

  • @nunyabiznes33
    @nunyabiznes33 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a tropical dweller, I'd like shadows everywhere.

  • @alypixar4690
    @alypixar4690 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @Nat3ski
    @Nat3ski ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Cool topic. You assume that some planning occurs, but it's nice to know the process.

  • @davidhanson4909
    @davidhanson4909 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So, could homeless people who live in a park or plaza invoke that shadow impact rule?

  • @S57771
    @S57771 ปีที่แล้ว

    How enlightening!

  • @patrickbarrett5650
    @patrickbarrett5650 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating, this never occurred to me.

  • @ikeyshuster9801
    @ikeyshuster9801 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this content. No politics

  • @Hiro_Trevelyan
    @Hiro_Trevelyan ปีที่แล้ว

    While I understand the point of protecting parks from shadows, imagining Central park surrounded by low-rise buildings to avoid any kind of shadow on the park would be ridiculous. (thought it's a very large park, so the setting is entirely different)

  • @johnnychang4233
    @johnnychang4233 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What the modern skyscraper take away by casting shadows its gives back by way of shooting dead rays with their parabolic glass facades.

  • @Voltaic_Fire
    @Voltaic_Fire ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A shame we can't build elevated walkways over whole cities, people could have an entirely walkable city on the upper level while cars and other vehicles can have an entirely unobstructed road system underneath. Kind of like Coruscant haha. I think I would like to live in the shadow level during summer, to be spared the heat.

    • @shanekeenaNYC
      @shanekeenaNYC ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, the primary goal of urban planners should be to get through traffic off of local streets, regardless of which form it may take. The important thing is to ensure that people who must go through the cities and off to the other side are out of sight and out of the minds of locals. Build more roads like Wacker Drive in Chicago, which has multiple levels for different traffic forms.

    • @snowfox7110
      @snowfox7110 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shanekeenaNYC Ring roads are more cost effective.

  • @VirtusH
    @VirtusH ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be far cheaper and make the issue easier to deal with to just require buildings to either be a bright/white color or reflective, so as to bounce light around. Just like why it's far more efficient to "light" a room painted with white paint, instead of black. This also reduces heat absorption. A win-win-win.
    Beyond that, the only way to make this stuff reasonable is to force local governments to produce their report within 1-2 weeks. There are housing projects that get delayed for years. At LEAST give developers a 'no' quickly so they can move their plans elsewhere.

  • @ThePowerBunny
    @ThePowerBunny ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Cheddar!!!

  • @mrkshply
    @mrkshply ปีที่แล้ว

    San Fran isn't just strangled by their shadow laws. The laws there for demo and building are so restrictive it's difficult to get anything new

  • @akir4388
    @akir4388 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should build pyramids to avoid shadows

  • @Kriss_L
    @Kriss_L ปีที่แล้ว

    So build the skyscrapers with mirrored finishes to reflect the sun down to the ground.

  • @dragorocky
    @dragorocky ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this a dumb question? Why don’t we utilize mirrors to offset the lack of light coming in due to said buildings? We could even angle numerous mirrors to refract so the mirrored sun-light comes from it’s natural direction. Let’s get it!

    • @VirtusH
      @VirtusH ปีที่แล้ว

      White paint, reflective surfaces, and refractive light-spreaders are all cost effective ideas I think.

  • @mysoneffa2417
    @mysoneffa2417 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The shadowing problem can be mute, if heliostats are used to redirect light.

  • @thesilentone4024
    @thesilentone4024 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We need more trees lining roads why they reduce speeding drivers wind damage and heat bad air and lots more.
    They produce shadows desert states theres also hundreds of desert native trees and succulents like baobab trees isn't a tree but a succulent mesquite tree is a desert native tree a real tree.

  • @FloridaMan69.
    @FloridaMan69. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm afraid of my own shadow

  • @thetommantom
    @thetommantom ปีที่แล้ว

    More spread out mine sweeper big sky scraper with both heavy shade and heavy sun areas of tall buildings and residential with green and trees parks everything

  • @adhoccosine9614
    @adhoccosine9614 ปีที่แล้ว

    Title of this video should have been 'shadow fight 3'😂😂

  • @AJ_ghdhejsien
    @AJ_ghdhejsien ปีที่แล้ว

    San Francisco doesn't need to build 80,000 units. Stop building allows for continued growth. Our county is supposed to add 500 low income houses, and 3000ish new houses in the next 20 years per the master plan. Our board is fighting this "growth" requirement, as we do not want to add more people and the related infrastructure costs and congestion that comes with that. Our community wants to stay small, rural and without much in the way of public services not become some metropolis

  • @Erez-the-Berez
    @Erez-the-Berez ปีที่แล้ว +3

    First like & comment!

  • @yongchen4158
    @yongchen4158 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sunlight vitamin D healthy lifestyle

  • @amazon4716
    @amazon4716 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vampires 🧛‍♂️ 🧛‍♀️

  • @uhohhotdog
    @uhohhotdog ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to live in the darkness

  • @ShadowHwkX7
    @ShadowHwkX7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Am I insignificant?

  • @uhohhotdog
    @uhohhotdog ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NIMBY’s need to be abolished

  • @awoiwh
    @awoiwh ปีที่แล้ว

    #JusticeForBrandon

  • @XRaym
    @XRaym ปีที่แล้ว

    03:40 It is not about proving why people are "wrong" because they dont want a skyscrapper near their park. It is about that they want for the city they are living in. Shadow is only one aspect of building. What is the most required here is democracy.

    • @VirtusH
      @VirtusH ปีที่แล้ว

      Then you get the tyranny of the majority, made up of people who generally just are not educated enough on economics to make decisions like this.
      Can you imagine trying to put billions of dollars on the line, just to have to wait months for a public vote to be held? NOTHING would ever be built.

    • @XRaym
      @XRaym ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VirtusH This stereotypical vision of democracy, people education and collective intelligence tells way more about your political views than anything else.
      I didnt say science has no part in it taking decision. I say it can't be only science based and dismissing any public opinion. Science should inform people, not take away their power of decision. This would be the tyrany of the tyran.
      There are developed countries where these questions are less of an issue cause building dont go other a certain heigh by law (see Paris for eg) and landscape protection policy. But in the end if people want a 500m skycrapper in front of their house, they can do it.

  • @andyc9902
    @andyc9902 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me as a vampire

  • @jimsquire-chestnuts8381
    @jimsquire-chestnuts8381 ปีที่แล้ว

    6 story height restriction - almost ever beautiful city in the world does this.
    And you can have serious density without American sprawl.
    But America doesn’t want nice things.

  • @clintcountryman4849
    @clintcountryman4849 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shady

  • @politrzysta
    @politrzysta ปีที่แล้ว

    Come to Poland, see how shitty modern city planning can get.

  • @goodsocksproductions9397
    @goodsocksproductions9397 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First

  • @macbuff81
    @macbuff81 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was never a fan of those ugly oppressive sky scrapers

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