I was in Cairo airport, the lounge was empty, no one there. So I kicked back and relaxed for the 2 hours before my flight. Half an hour in I was nudged awake by a hostess that advised I'd entered the private jet lounge by mistake and if I could kindly follow her to the business lounge.
I've been in lounges around the world and honestly, I've yet to feel one is worth the money you pay. The food is better than airline food, but you can buy comparable food at the airport for significantly less than the cost of annual membership for the lounges or credit cards. It's just another way to make people feel superior while taking their money.
Don’t bother with lounges and Airports in U.S. Europe are lousy. On the other hand, in Asia, lounges, Airports and airlines are another level, even economy class is exceptional.
Dubai, Singapore are by far best ones I've been in. Rest are fine for me....but I've also never paid for a lounge or the credit/charge card so expectations are low.
1. Airport lounges are becoming increasingly popular. 2. They are expensive to build and maintain but are seen as a way to attract and retain customers. 3. Overcrowding is a challenge for lounge operators. 4. There are over 3200 airport lounges worldwide, with the US having over 300. 5. First and business class tickets usually come with lounge access for international travel. 6. Branded credit cards allow customers to earn elite status with airlines, which includes lounge access. 7. Premium travel credit cards like American Express Platinum offer lounge access and travel credits. 8. As more people are willing to pay for premium tickets, the average airline ticket price has decreased, and lounges are becoming more accessible.
The lounges were worth it back in the early 2000's; now there are just too many people and as a result, the service and quality have gone downhill. Airlines are really nickel-and-diming their customers with the creation of different tiers of economy class. We all, on the same same flight number, take off and land in the same plane, from the same gate going to the same destination, so I don't mind flying economy and saving a ton of money.
Yeah, the lounges use to be worth the membership fees in the US back during my very heavy travel period back in the day. They didn't have many people that could access them them ( though the food offerings were worse at the time generally). Nice break from the airport and could actually get things done. Now they can be a total zoo now that my travel is picking up again.
I had the most wonderful lounge experience from 2004 through 2008. I used to fly out of Miami very often for work and would spend time in the American Airlines lounge prior to my flights. Since I was connecting through Miami International prior to my next flight, I would sleep, eat, and even shower there. It was so awesome. I do not know what that lounge is like today, though.
Most intelligent and informed comment on this blog. Thank you for pointing that out. 99% of society doesn't realize that it's just a bank. Same with the airline credit cards... which is probably what you are saying too.
@@drewconway7135 explaining the financial incentives of the program that funds the lounges would have improved the video and actually answered the question why loyalty members get lounge access while first class passengers sometimes don’t even tho they pay more up front.
My lounge is so exclusive, even if you got in you don't stay. Its french.. called La Trine. You get your own covered booth with a chair called the Com Mode. You can sit there till your flight is called, listen to music, sleep, and even eat snacks. Sometimes they release exotic fragrances that are never the same. I love La Trine, it lets me take a load off. 😉
Better than any duty-free fragrance, I've tried many times to bottle that scent to take home by visiting a neighbor's booth, but I got a black eye instead.
Social media definitely plays a huge part in this with influencers and even just casuals boasting their travel experiences going from the airport to the destination which often comes with staying at an "exclusive" airport lounge. When other people see this they want to get in on the action which has led to overcrowding and increased demand with a lot of these lounges.
Most people don’t care for social media. That’s too small to be a factor. But I actually think some lounges like Delta Sky Club are moving in the right direction
I was flying out to basic training and some rich guy wouldn’t let me say no, and took me into a sky lounge and bought me a drink. As a working class guy I never forgot that.
I met a girl in Hong Kong who apparently had a lounge-access for two and she invited me in. The irony was that I was the one who flew business class (that was closed during midnight hours) while she actually flew economy. Her dad just happened to own a kind of priority pass that allowed access for two persons.
I was fortunate enough to be upgraded from Premium Economy to Business (due to an aircraft change) on a flight from Narita to O’Hare back in August. I got to use the lounge as a result, and while it was nice, it’s not a privilege I would regularly pay for.
I used the BA OHare lounge last week. It was massively underwhelming. BAs lounges at Heathrow blow it out of the water, as does Manchester Airports own Aspire lounge.
lucky! I mostly fly upgraded business class since it's much cheaper than buying the business class ticket outright and they always get stingy with their lounge access for upgraded tickets.
I don't think it's worth it either. I much rather just spend less time at airports. I usually fly Ryanair out of smaller European airports so quite often it's not even an option.
I remember reading a forum post that a lot of these lounges have become really trashy with people devouring food and getting plastered right then and there, it's less like a classy place to relax but for rampant hedonism for the card holders.
Everyone complains about overcrowded lounges and long lines to get in, but when an airline restricts access and makes it harder to avoid long lines and overcrowding (like Delta recently tried, before they had to backtrack) people get enraged. The truth is everyone wants to restrict others right under them. They all still want access, but want to restrict anyone else who may have slightly less spend, or slightly lower status, or a different credit card than they do. But guess what? EVERYONE wants the cutoff to be right below themselves. If everyone is special, then no one is special. Where do airlines draw the line? Because no matter what, that group that gets cutoff will be very vocally screaming about how it's not fair, how loyalty means nothing, etc., etc., then also complain on twitter (refuse to use the new name) and be snapping pics for instagram about how the lines are sooooooo long and the club is soooooooo crowded and it's not restrictive enough. Round and round it goes.
True, and I get around it by avoiding those elitist clubs. I save so much money by not trying to mold my credit card choices and spending to getting status and lounge access. I mean unless you fly at least weekly year round, how beneficial is a lounge? Really? You stay there for a little bit before or after your flight, it's not like you stay there over night.
Well airlines in their pursuit of more money from premium tickets allowed larger and larger groups access to the lounges. Now of course they can't rescind it without howls. Blame the airlines because we live in a very entitled age.
I've seen the American lounges at PHX routinely be standing room only during peak times I get lounge access through the AA Executive card that my company pays for. But not only is the annual fee going from $450 to $600, over the past few years, they've made changes to the rules that make it much harder to get the upgrades that they consider benefits because everyone and their grandmother seem to be eligible now. That free 1st class upgrade benefit isn't worth much when I'm number 37 on the wait list.
I use the first lounges when flying internationally, but dropped my domestic lounge memberships due to overcrowding. The waiting areas in the main part of the airport are often less crowded.
The centurion lounges are just OK. I remember asking for champagne one time and the woman gave me Prosecco without saying anything. I know now champagne is only for centurion card holders, but she could've told me instead of trying to insult my intelligence like I wasn't going to taste the difference.
I once had a three hour layover in Chicago, and I was gonna try out the Delta lounge for the first time... but because of the way that stupid airport is laid out, it would've meant going through security AGAIN just to get there, and then going through security AGAIN to get to my connecting flight. Nothing is worth that.
Maybe airports having proper lounges for masses of flyers to rest during long layovers would help with the pressure. Then airlines could focus on the luxury and exclusivity rather then space or capacity. Since restaurants in the airports are overpriced to the point that the credit cards and airline lounges are actually cheaper with more value if you fly often.
I disagree with you. Lounge should be for the folks that always spending money. Its bad enough you got the folks from the ghetto flying and now you want them access to lounges. Ill keep sticking to international flights
You don't need "miles cards" and things like that to access airport lounges, many (if not most) offer daily passes for $60 or so, alternatively you can simply go to an airport restaurant and rest there while sipping a drink. And this can be actually a cheaper option than owning a "magical" credit card, collecting flight miles, paying for xxxxx Discount Club subscriptions etc - most of them are meant to essentially rip off unaware consumers by make them spending a loooot more than they would normally do.
I've never been in a lounge and honestly it's been fine. My only real gripe is expensive airport food but the terminal I usually depart from has a chain bakery with consistent pricing. Outside holidays and peak summer it's not hard to find a seat somewhere in the gates. And I try to fly a bit earlier when it's empty. It's not luxury but it's far from uncomfortable. A snack, a place to sit so I can read or phone scroll, and a window to see the airplanes pushing back. That's all I need to pass the time.
Agreed, some airports have charger station high-tops now at the gate and those are definitely more convenient if you need somewhere to eat and be on the laptop. I only go the lounges if I can get it reimbursed on the company card and need a booth to take business calls, otherwise, it's the gate or a nice airport restaurant I go, lol.
Well it use to be a nice perk... Amex ruined their lounge experience with too many cards issued and priority pass is a joke. Most of these newer companies getting in on the "we want to reward our customers" are behind the curve already.
Priority Pass is pretty much a knock-off as far as food goes, but bathrooms are better and so is seating compared to the gates. And at half the cost of an executive club, it’s tolerable.
I agree, not once could I use Priority pass in domestic and international airports. It's garbage. Centurion lounges are nearly always full and it's not even that good. The one in Charlotte was almost ALWAYS far away from the gate
It heavily depends on where you travel. Domestically I use centurion lounges. Abroad I've used priority pass and honestly the lounges abroad have been better than anything that American Express has offered with centurion lounges. I haven't not had crowding issues in 2 years now. The service is a joke too. One day flying out early I was at the lounge at open and all they had available was fruit. I was so confused. They said they wouldn't have hot food ready for an hour and a half.... I kind of felt like a Karen at that moment just from how I was thinking but my flight was in an hour. So I didn't get to get a hot breakfast or anything. I asked friends about their lounge experiences and I mentioned my experience and they thought I was joking. They said they always had hot food ready at open in their lounges. This is just in DFW though I will say. I've walked out of the lounge before and gone to capital one to pay to get in. I went in and told them about the joke of the experience I had with amex a year ago and they actually let me in for free even though I didn't have the card at the time. Completely different lounge experience. Actually felt like I was in a lounge. No crowding, better food, nicer staff... The only thing keeping me from cancelling my amex plat business card right now is that capital one only has two lounges in America right now. If they had one or two on west coast id cancel my plat right now since I regularly connect through west coast. I feel like centurion lounges are just better to grab and go at this point. I've seen crowding in their lounges worse than actually at the gate sometimes. It's ridiculous. Priority pass like I said though at least in my experience has been so much better than centurion lounges at least abroad comparing to the centurion lounge experience domestically for me at least
domestic the priority pass is useless. Even the few lounges that are listed on their app won't let you in during busy times, which is basically all the time. Internationally it's a lot better, and there's usually one solid option in every international airport. Although in Egypt one time it was just a room with 5 chairs and bottled water.... and the light wasn't even turned on.
I had the black card access thanks to my husband. I was told that this was a card for rich people. Well I guess there are a lot of rich people, because it was packed and there was no place to sit unless I wanted to clean my own table and chair. I found the business class lounge with Etihad to be better with larger showers that had better lighting. Travel is difficult now I think because there are just so many people who are told that they are elite members with airlines/hotels and there is an overwhelming "do you know who I am" attitude.
They should be open 24hrs! I have been in many red eyes and no lounges are open. It makes it worthless to have the privilege and now being able to use them
I pay annually for access to the United Airlines lounges. Where once I found peace and quiet I now find crowds of people competing for a place to sit down. This is even true of Polaris lounges which are limited to international travelers in business class. Recently I had access to the British Airways lounge at Heathrow's Terminal 5 because I was flying in business. It was absolutely packed, and I was lucky to locate a seat. I no longer feel that I’m getting my money's worth!
I like lounges but I always felt like they’re missing the elite essentials, like private shower rooms, and private mtg rooms and sleeping area. And an onsite makeup/hair bar! Imagine getting a quick touch up before landing and heading straight into a meeting. Now I would pay big bucks for that. Not just a place to sit and eat snacks.
@@LittleMissSunshine721 Someone should really give me a call - I have so many ideas to make going into an airport lounge a status symbol - the simplest and most visible way to do that is to make lounge goers look relaxed, clean, and put together - since all the other travellers look exhausted and disheveled!
Depends were. United lounges in some cities,SFO, etc have some of those. Luftansa in FRA definitely has those in addition to 10 or so locations. There is nothing like a show after sending all day coming from the state. Also, at FRA the sleeping spaces are nice, but there are other people in other pods. The food is also good at FRA and they have a wide variety of different types of rooms. Some are small for a small travel group of a family or two, and some are open where you just get a table. If you want makeup done there seems to be a number of places in the makeup sales area at FRA.
We travel for fun about every 6 weeks, both long haul and quick weekends away, if a lounge is available to us either through loyalty or credit card perks we will try to get in, so far, we’ve always had access. Some are definitely better than others. The free wine before a flight is a nice treat, but my favorites are the shower lounges especially when we’ve done a full day of exploring before a late red-eye helps with the icky feeling on the plane.
It used to be quiet and there were plenty of seats to sit at and food/drinks were readily available. Lounges were a good place for weary travelers to relax and refresh from a long traveling day. Ever since having a certain credit card gave you access to a lounge, it’s been crowded and service has been mediocre at best. Get rid of the credit card access and go back to the old system of only allowing people with airline status or who are traveling in business class and above that day to be allowed into lounges. Then it won’t be crowded anymore.
When I travel I want to spend the least amount of time in the airport. I'd rather be spending time in whatever city I'm in for the maximum amount of time I can
It would look like the inside of a NYC subway car. ... and I wouldn't be surprised if you get robbed and stabbed while relaxing in the SPIRIT lounge. lol
I love having access to airport lounges. Sometimes they reach 80-90% capacity, sure; but to me that beats the severly over crowded common areas elsewhere in the airport.
I have travelled domestically and internationally on airlines for business and pleasure for over 40 years, I have had the pinnacle of loyalty cards over this time, but I can honestly say other than having a private jet which I don’t, the air travel experience has decreased significantly to a standard a lot less than decades ago.
Actually I remember taking my first flight in the mid 1970’s. It was a fabulous experience. The last time I flew (which was in 2022), it was a truly miserable experience. I felt as if I was in “steerage”.
@@Liz-in8lu Have to agree, no way you'd catch me staying a minute longer than I need to at an airport. I'll go out of my way to arrange a schedule to be elsewhere.
Have been a Life member of a major US airline Airport Lounge since the 1980's. Back then, I used to fly for business about twice a month. Before, 9/11 at Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) it was great to arrive about three (3) hours prior to departure and just drop your bags off with a Sky Cap. Afterward, it was off to whichever Airport Lounge you had access too until about 1-hour before flight time (smile...smile).
I used to go to my favorite lounge each time I had a flight. Recently, I rather just seat outside, and be on my own. Frankly, all you see is people eating like they have never eaten before, and for the fees that these companies charge, it doesn't feel exclusive anymore. Years ago, the idea was to have a great and relaxing experience. This days you go in, and is full, no were to seat, it is not pleasant anymore.
That is not what I said, but originally that is what it was meant to be. Anyways, these lounges are crowded, and they are no longer what they were meant to be.@brooklynborn83
Airport lounges have become nothing but a cash grab now. I remember when they used to be so exclusive but now anyone can be in there and they’re massively overpriced, overvalued, and overcrowded. No different than being in the regular terminal.
All the schmucks identified as you see them waiting in those crazy long lines so they can score some free food as if it were a glorified soup kitchen for the poor. Like these lines have longer waits than those going through TSA lines. Sad to even see it.
It’s all about the money. Where would the money of renovating the airports come from? At some point the cost will eventually be spread among the travelers
Never get a travel card just for the lounge access, that's asinine. Only get it if you actually travel a lot and are accumulating enough miles on the card to offset the annual fee.
That's what's going on. More and more are getting a mileage card if it makes lounge access easier. I stone cold will not pay a damn annual fee on a credit card. Uh uh. The only reason my banker was able to hook me up with my current credit card was because there was no fee.
I’ve been flying business class long haul for around 12 years now and while I’ve seen more of these lounges opening up the experience overall has gone down. Being able to pay for access when you’re flying economy has negated the experience as it’s caused overcrowding too many times. Unless I’ve a long layover (which is rare) most of the time I don’t even bother anymore.
Single day access is like $95 per person. Who is paying that knowing dam well they're not getting $95 in stuff?? I would just take my $95 to an airport bar/restaurant. Although those are usually packed too.
It’s pretty disappointing when they lay out stale, prepackaged bagels now and you see economy flyers stuffing their pockets with as many as they can take with them.
@@choosey87People with lounge access don’t worry about getting there too early. You can give yourself a wide amount of time to get there because it doesn’t matter if you’re chilling in a quiet lounge away from annoying crowds and airport chaos. When your boarding time comes, you head over to the gate and bypass the line. In other words, it’s a completely different way of using an airport. Since you’ve never experienced this, you don’t get it.
@@BlownMacTruckalso you totally misread the persons comment, they said they don't get there early, they get to the airport just in time to board the flight.
@@malcriadamedina5358God, you missed the point too. Timing getting to the airport, getting through security, plus the walk to the gate (all extremely variable) makes arriving just before boarding annoying. Add in delays and gate moves and everything else that can and does happen, and it’s pretty dumb to bank on arriving right at designated boarding times. The point is you don’t have to worry about any of that AT ALL.
Lounges have only become something that airlines think they can draw customers with because air travel has become so miserable. The seats are small, the timing is inflexible, and the security wait is long and unpredictable. if flying was more like train travel, there would be no need for lounges because everyone would show up 15 minutes before their flight.
So grateful for lounges honestly the fact that you can shower while in transit is so convenient. Really hate not feeling fresh in a different country so I recommend you always pack an extra outfit for your layover. The lounge in Abu Dhabi you will still find your luggage right where you put it is a blessing.
Apparently, airfares have been spiked up since post-Covid. For instances, I had paid usd3400 in summer 2020 for Delta One from NYC to HKG. Today, it costs almost usd9000 for the very same destinations.
that's more of a China-US thing rather the airline thing. I think there are restriction of some sort on both sides. Flights between NYC and Japan vs NYC and China is just way too different when you look at timing and pricing.
@@Steven-xf8mz unsure if politics have anything to do with it but when I compare Delta with Cathy Pacific, United Airlines and other renown international airlines, somehow Delta’s prices are at least 2.5 times higher.
@@lmc2664 Airports are governed by local govt, both sides has limitation on # of flights, and these flights aren't always split to every airline equally. If a specific flight is 2.5x higher, who would fly it? Airfare are dynamic, it's not a flat rate since the tickets goes online. Like i said from my original statement, check out flights between NYC and Tokyo, perhaps NYC and Seoul, then NYC to Beijing/Shanghai. China and US agreed to more flights few months ago that started in Sept which might help lower the airfare, but this may not matter if demands trickles higher.
prior to the pandemic I was using Priority Pass for all my lounge needs, and it was awesome, you really felt special. Fastforward to today, that's no longer the case. I visited Frankfurt last week and all lounges were packed and the food choices were terrible. They also treat you like a production cow, many times I couldn't get in because there was no space. :/ Sucks.
They should keep it limited and exclusive if they want it to last for the long haul. I would add a walk through for some of the amenities so they can still feel a part of the lounge and sell or give away labeled exclusive items
Airports need to create their own spaces like this for a budget-cost friendly lounge for travelers with long connection times who are essentially trapped at the airport for more than 3hrs. This could be good for the airports too by creating new revenue if they do it right & provide some relief to the airline lounges that are now over-crowded and no longer as relaxing.. like Delta’s lounge in some you can’t even get in & have to stand outside in a line to wait for just the space to be in there, even if you pay for the executive level membership. It’s ridiculous.
@@texastuna as a budget traveler I'm not looking to be treated special. I don't expect luxury. I just wanted to be treated humanely. Just a decent place to rest. It doesn't have to be luxurious like an actual lounge. Most airports that I've been to in Europe and Asia have such things ...even for budget travelers.
Delta got me. I carry the platinum and travel for work, and will often prefer to book delta simply for sky club access. It’s the number one reason I hold the card. Also helps that delta offers the best product of the three major carriers. Easy boarding, friendly staff, more legroom, and greater convenience. I’d rather pay a premium for that than get stuck at the airport with another airline that just doesn’t give a crap.
lounge access in the united states is very stupid to me these days. i'd rather spend a meal in an airport restaurant and not be bothered by overcrowded lounge people.
People on average consume like 30-50dollars worth of food/drinks in their ~1hr in a lounge. Some lounges offer borderline fine dining and premium alcohol for free. Why would you pay for garbage airport food which is also super overpriced when you can get at least decent food and drinks for free?
@@freddytang2128 Because you usually have to spend more to qualify. I mean if you're flying 1st class all the time then by all means enjoy the extra perk of the lounge but so many that aren't necessarily wealthy will adjust credit card and spending choices to get lounge access and other perks typically associated with big spenders/frequent flyers.
@@dsong2006 $50 is 10x cheaper than the $500 some people spend on annual fee for a single credit card that gets them lounge access the few times they fly every year. Nothing wrong with the lounge itself but some (actually many) people buy their way into the lounge and when you do that it's typically not a benefit but an expense.
"Borderline fine dining and premium alcohol for free". Um if you're at a lounge outside of the US perhaps (but this video isn't about foreign lounges). US lounges offer complimentary "non-premium house liquors" at best (no premium alcohol as you assert) and I wouldnt consider the buffets they offer "borderline fine dining" 😅 @@dsong2006
Nowadays in Brazil it’s really easy to get a black card (Visa Infinite/ mastercard black/ amex the platinum card… if you invest 1.000 usd = 5.000 reais you get a blck card with 2 free dragon pass access. Now the lounges are pack with people… In comparison couple years ago, only the millionaires had access to those lounges.
Just go to the bar at whatever airport you're in. Very few screaming children at the bar, which means almost no entitled parents. You also lose all of the entitled rich people who are at their designated rich person place. Grab a few drinks, and chill out. Had a wonderful experience at Toronto's airport over the summer at the bar with a beautiful runway view. Got a few drinks, and people left me alone. $0 entry fee. No line. The drink prices weren't even that bad. I've seen videos of the Maple Leaf lounge at Toronto, and honestly? The publicly accessible bar was leaps and bounds better.
Hmm...depends on the country. Don't go to a bar in the UK pre a flight seeing as it's a tradition for many to get truly wasted before flights, always a loud lads or girls holiday/hen/stag do etc. Also rich people in lounges? It's just the working/middle class now, most big airports/airlines have their own lounges solely for 1st/business class now
I used to do lounges on a semi regular basis. I enjoyed the peaceful atmosphere along with free food and drinks. Then they became more crowded and noisier. By the time there were lines of people waiting to get in I decided to stop. Now they're very poor value for money.
Anyone waiting in those kinds of lines is basically a cheapo who just wants "free food". I even saw people taking extra food off the buffet to put into containers so they can not only snack on it on the flight, but to actually have full meals after they arrive at their destination.
I frequently fly to the ME, and the lounges in Beirut and Amman are straight out of the glory days of flying. Attractive hostesses, smoking allowed, open bar, etc..
LOL 😂 The few times I've flown, I look at those airport lounges as sad and pathetic. To think somebody flies so much that they rarely even see home and spent a ton of money to sit in a nice little bar and get drunk, or feel any sort of comfort and companionship is one of the most limp wrist, sad, lonely existences i have ever seen.
I'm all for the clamping down on access to get back to some exclusivity and lower crowds. Last few times through Atlanta, the bathrooms in the Delta lounges were ironically nastier than the main terminal bathrooms. That's NOT the fault of custodial or the Delta employees. The lounges are over-packed and it's just a mass number of people in there vs. the smaller bathrooms available not able to handle the traffic.
I never even thought about going to a airport lounge. I dont even think i have enough time to enjoy it. I don't want to be in the airport longer than i need to be.
People who post things like this completely miss the point. No one wants to be in the airport longer than necessary. Lounges make it so it doesn't matter how long or short you're there.
yeah but you also don't want to miss the flight and there are a million X factors from your front door to the gate starting with the uber who is never on time, to traffic, to security....I always leave myself 1.5-2 hours and that's where a nice lounge, some free food & alcohol hits the spot.
@@BlownMacTruckthere is no lounge that remotely compares to my house or hotel. Thanks, I'd rather stay there. Also, I will never book a layover trip. Nonstop or I'm not going. If your city doesn't have nonstop service from my city then it's probably not worth going 😂
@@supacheef1 You've basically told everyone you're a travel noob with that comment. I seriously doubt your house is better than the Qatar lounge at Doha, unless you have attendants at your place giving you fresh, warm towels after shower in a completely decked-out private suite, or cooking anything from a giant menu at three different restaurants (and that's just the surface). If you have no intention of having a layover, you've effectively shut yourself off from giant chunks of the world. You clearly fly the budget airlines to domestic locations (and even then, you're struggling to balance arriving at the gate on a knife's edge and failing most of the time, while I haven't worried about any of that and bypassed the boarding line when I got to the gate), so yeah, it's clear you don't get it.
Australian here. I live in Sydney and worked in Karratha (look it up on a map) and did the return trip with Qantas once a month for ten years. I made gold which gave me access to the regular Qantas lounge in Australia plus theirs and all partners' business lounges outside Australia in six months with a guest in tow who need not be flying but only before my flight, and Platinum which gave me access to Qantas' business lounges in Australia plus theirs and all partners' first class lounges outside Australia after a year with two guests before and after a flight. I'd use the lounge in Sydney, Perth and Karratha on every trip and find it incedible that domestic travellers in the US can't access the lounges. Back in 2018, wife and I went to the UK via Dubai and let me tell you, you haven't lived until you've been in the Emirates (Qantas partner) first class lounge in Dubai. Came back via Singapore and Qantas' lounge there was very nice as was the one at Heathrow. Going to Spain next year via Dubai both ways with a 10 hour layover on the return. To have someone wait on us hand and foot (I'm not exaggerating) for 10 hours will be hard to take but we'll manage. Oh, I made lifetime gold after nine years so even though I left that job four years ago and only fly occaisionally now, I have lounge access all over the world (One World) for life and just to top it off, all flights to and from work were paid for by the company so all this didn't cost me one red cent. Long story short, lounge access makes a huge difference to flying, even if you go economy. Funny story - there are two ways to leave the Emirates 1st class lounge in Dubai and which one you use depends on where your seat is on the plane. I asked the attendant and she asked to see my boarding pass to see where my seat was. When she saw I was in an economy seat, the look on her face was utterly priceless. She couldn't believe I was in there.
I tried the Alaska lounges a few times when they had a program that made them accessible to occasional flyers. I found them underwhelming - barely worth the discounted price. Now, they require annual membership, which definitely rules them out for me.
Honestly, as a frequent traveler, allowing credit card holders and people bringing in their families quickly ruined the lounge experience. If a credit card makes their own lounge then fine but airline lounges should only be occupied by people who earn the status or pay the steep price to get in.
If everyone can get access to it, it's no longer a premium offering. When my dad traveled and went to a lounge everyone wore business dress clothing and family members were the exception. I think I went to a lounge once just before a flight when I was a kid and had to be quiet and well dressed. But that was the only time.
Delta airlines did that but everyone is mad and going Karen for absolutely no reason at all! Bunch of toddler acting Karen’s were saying to reduce people in the lounge so they did
What's the difference between paying 'the steep price to get in' in terms of yearly membership fees vs. paying a massive credit card fee to gain access? Genuinely curious. I do agree the increase of entire families with children running around/making noise has dampened the experience.
The centurion lounge in Denver is awesome. But if they restrict my access and say I need to purchase 75k first then I’m definitely cancelling my Amex platinum card.
Golly, why would anyone want to use a shower that was used by god only knows how many people. Even worse, I've heard of cases of people getting MRSA infections in their feet from using public showers.
It’s Amex fault for giving out those platinum card like it’s candy. Chase you actually need a 740 fico score or above to get considered for their premium cards as as good banking relationship. When they start building more lounge it will be back to the old days
Same case here in in India too. Easy access to credit cards with lounge access features have increased the crowding at airport lounges. Due to this, in the last six months, one card which I hold has removed the lounge access feature. While two others have added a restriction of minimum spends to get the lounge access which was not there earlier.
My wife & I are both top tier with United (1K - Star Alliance), and British Airways (Gold - One World), and we have noticed that lounges can and/or have been full! We've never been turned away from a lounge, but trying to find a seat can be a challenge...both in United's Polaris Lounges and British Airways first class lounges. My sole purpose is to have a meal before boarding since I don't eat on the flights. Once I hear the double ding (10,000 ft), I recline to a bed and sleep throughout the flight.
It’s because you have *G and one world sapphire. They never turn these members away. They only turn away credit card holders and priority pass members.
The only reason to pay for lounges is when they have really good food, are not crowded AND I have at least a couple hours to spare. So basically the question is, how much food can I stuff into my belly to make it worthwile. Besides that, the best way to fly - and I am not kidding: Comfy clothes, a blanket, a good sleeping mask, ANC over ear head phones, a large, high quality neck pillow and a shot of high volume alcohol right before the flight. With this setup, I usually get enough sleep for long travel distances. Ofc it helps to be awake for too long before the flight so you already board while being a bit exhausted.
Good. If everyone gets access to a lounge, then it just becomes another crowded airport spot, which is exactly what they were designed to get away from. People really spend $100s to get $20 worth of free food 😂
When anyone uses the word “invest” instead of buying or spending when it comes to buying or spending on a mass commodity or product, run for the hills.
LOL, I avoid airport lounges. The public free lounges may be noisy but ironically, they offer what I crave: a slightly quite but open space to stretch out before the flight.
The Delta lounges are crowded, the food is terrible, most of the chairs are uncomfortable. The workers/staff do a good job, so that is a plus. Overall a failing grade from my perspective
I pay a big annual fee to AMEX to get into the Delta Lounges. Last year it was well worth it because I was traveling two times a week and the long layovers in Atlanta were less frustrating. But I have had times when getting into the lounge was a very long wait, or I had to travel across to other terminals to get to one that was less busy. I think it's time to drop the loyalty. For regular travelers maybe it's worth it, but now that I only travel occasionally I can just find a restaurant, or sit it out. Plus traveling to Atlanta first isn't always the smartest or most convenient option.
The other month, I saw a lounge doing reservations. This is the first time I've seen that anywhere in the entire world. I HATED it, so I really hope that doesn't become a thing.
I took my wife to an Amex lounge, and she had never experienced it, now she cannot go back. I literally watched the stress fade away in her face. She's an anxious flyer, so it's worth it for us.
As a member in the US military, I rather go to USO (United Service Organization) when I travel stateside. The USO is only for USA military service members and veterans. It’s free.
From time to time Turkish off two nights free for business class travellers. Also to save on you spending time in the lounge if your stop over is longer than 4 hours they offer you a free city bus tour with tea.
Unfortunatley, the peak was the two Eastern Airlines owned Ionosphere Clubs at Atlanta in the 1980s. It's been all downhill on service and crowding ever since.
In 2006, coming back to the states from Iraq, for two weeks of leave to be with family and friends, we were offered to wait and rest for our connecting flights in the Houston International Airport privilege lounge. What or who the lounge belonged to I really don't know but it was very nice. There were about 20 of us all in clean desert field uniforms. We were all very appreciative of the opportunity of the lounge and it was very comfortable and with our occupancy the lounge was about 50% full if you consider the people to chairs ratio. A few of the civilians there were curious and happily struck up conversations with us but there were several of the civilians that were upset about our presence and were vocal about it. Two of those people loudly left the lounge threatening various actions. Of course we all stayed on our best behavior and trickled out as our various connecting flights came up. It's the only time I've been in a lounge like that and will most likely be the only time. I still appreciate the experience.
When I was travelling a lot, I had lounge access, but I rarely used it. What I did was change by flight while I was in the taxi on the freeway going to the airport. I changed my flight booking such that I would get out of the taxi and walk straight to gate and board the plane. Why wait???
The problem is not because the lounges don't have enough seats, it is the fact flights tend to arrive (transfers)/depart during rush airport hours. If take a flight in the evenings, the lounges are hardly 50% full.
Free checked bags....free to....sit there?!? Just get to airport with a LITTLE time for your flight. Lounges were SUPPOSED to be for overnight waiting flights
He is right however, if the layover is long enough why wouldn’t you just leave, visit whatever and return? An airport is a no different than a big bus station and no one should want to spend more time more than they need to in there
@@RicardoRodriguesSilva-p5pYou seem to think every single place with a layover means there are good reasons to go through immigration, haul all your stuff around, and squeeze all that into a tiny schedule in a place that may or may not be interesting, all for a few hours, versus chilling in a lounge, getting some food, grabbing a nap, and taking a shower.
Not all the stuff, surely one who considers a loungue has checked in all its belongings so one doesn't need to carry anything around, if indeed is a layover@@BlownMacTruck
I was in Cairo airport, the lounge was empty, no one there. So I kicked back and relaxed for the 2 hours before my flight. Half an hour in I was nudged awake by a hostess that advised I'd entered the private jet lounge by mistake and if I could kindly follow her to the business lounge.
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Lol! How'd they let you in?
I've been in lounges around the world and honestly, I've yet to feel one is worth the money you pay. The food is better than airline food, but you can buy comparable food at the airport for significantly less than the cost of annual membership for the lounges or credit cards. It's just another way to make people feel superior while taking their money.
Don’t bother with lounges and Airports in U.S. Europe are lousy. On the other hand, in Asia, lounges, Airports and airlines are another level, even economy class is exceptional.
The point is many people don't pay. I go in the lounge wherever I am at due to Oneworld status, it's essentially free once you have attained status
Business and first class lounges in the airlines home airport is worth a visit in asia and europe. North american lounges are horrible.
Some airports are so crap, that any lounge is a huge improvement and really like a must. And this goes double on big travel days.
Dubai, Singapore are by far best ones I've been in. Rest are fine for me....but I've also never paid for a lounge or the credit/charge card so expectations are low.
1. Airport lounges are becoming increasingly popular.
2. They are expensive to build and maintain but are seen as a way to attract and retain customers.
3. Overcrowding is a challenge for lounge operators.
4. There are over 3200 airport lounges worldwide, with the US having over 300.
5. First and business class tickets usually come with lounge access for international travel.
6. Branded credit cards allow customers to earn elite status with airlines, which includes lounge access.
7. Premium travel credit cards like American Express Platinum offer lounge access and travel credits.
8. As more people are willing to pay for premium tickets, the average airline ticket price has decreased, and lounges are becoming more accessible.
the rise of lounges... the decline of "credit card" rewards... congress is coming for your points.
thanks for saving me 10 minutes lol
The lounges were worth it back in the early 2000's; now there are just too many people and as a result, the service and quality have gone downhill. Airlines are really nickel-and-diming their customers with the creation of different tiers of economy class.
We all, on the same same flight number, take off and land in the same plane, from the same gate going to the same destination, so I don't mind flying economy and saving a ton of money.
Yeah, the lounges use to be worth the membership fees in the US back during my very heavy travel period back in the day. They didn't have many people that could access them them ( though the food offerings were worse at the time generally). Nice break from the airport and could actually get things done. Now they can be a total zoo now that my travel is picking up again.
I was sexually assaulted in an airport lounge shower !!
I had the most wonderful lounge experience from 2004 through 2008. I used to fly out of Miami very often for work and would spend time in the American Airlines lounge prior to my flights. Since I was connecting through Miami International prior to my next flight, I would sleep, eat, and even shower there. It was so awesome. I do not know what that lounge is like today, though.
I don’t understand, do they have a buffet, strippers, and a full gym? What’s even the point
Its proven however that people are willing to pay for the experience though and that's what they're exploiting.
It’s interesting how this video didn’t cover the fact that every loyalty program/frequent flyers is actually, fundamentally, a bank
Most intelligent and informed comment on this blog. Thank you for pointing that out. 99% of society doesn't realize that it's just a bank. Same with the airline credit cards... which is probably what you are saying too.
A little dramatic there
This video is about airport lounges, not loyalty programs. Yes, they are related, but different subjects
@@Sequaloid As Ray Croc was actually building a real estate empire. Hamburgers were just the vehicle.
@@drewconway7135 explaining the financial incentives of the program that funds the lounges would have improved the video and actually answered the question why loyalty members get lounge access while first class passengers sometimes don’t even tho they pay more up front.
"It's not about making money, it's about making you feel better about the exorbitant amount we've already charged you"
My lounge is so exclusive, even if you got in you don't stay. Its french.. called La Trine. You get your own covered booth with a chair called the Com Mode. You can sit there till your flight is called, listen to music, sleep, and even eat snacks. Sometimes they release exotic fragrances that are never the same. I love La Trine, it lets me take a load off. 😉
Lmaooo I had to read it twice to get it 😂
You’re crazy
Exotic fragrances lmao
Spray some French parfum after Le Trine use. Oh la la! Ces’t la vie.
Better than any duty-free fragrance, I've tried many times to bottle that scent to take home by visiting a neighbor's booth, but I got a black eye instead.
Social media definitely plays a huge part in this with influencers and even just casuals boasting their travel experiences going from the airport to the destination which often comes with staying at an "exclusive" airport lounge. When other people see this they want to get in on the action which has led to overcrowding and increased demand with a lot of these lounges.
Exactly, that's very true. They romanticise everything. Post Covid, it def saw a massive surge
that’s a very small factor
@@johnjack3578 Get your facts right
Most people don’t care for social media. That’s too small to be a factor. But I actually think some lounges like Delta Sky Club are moving in the right direction
It do because everyone wants to have that amex
I was flying out to basic training and some rich guy wouldn’t let me say no, and took me into a sky lounge and bought me a drink. As a working class guy I never forgot that.
Probably back in the day when lounges meant something. Now everyone and their grandma are at the lounge
He was trying to bang you
I met a girl in Hong Kong who apparently had a lounge-access for two and she invited me in. The irony was that I was the one who flew business class (that was closed during midnight hours) while she actually flew economy. Her dad just happened to own a kind of priority pass that allowed access for two persons.
yeah no shyt, they said they got more popular, whats your point?
That's why you get the Navy Fed flaghship card so you can get into these places
I was fortunate enough to be upgraded from Premium Economy to Business (due to an aircraft change) on a flight from Narita to O’Hare back in August. I got to use the lounge as a result, and while it was nice, it’s not a privilege I would regularly pay for.
I was sexually assaulted in an airport lounge shower !!
I used the BA OHare lounge last week. It was massively underwhelming.
BAs lounges at Heathrow blow it out of the water, as does Manchester Airports own Aspire lounge.
lucky! I mostly fly upgraded business class since it's much cheaper than buying the business class ticket outright and they always get stingy with their lounge access for upgraded tickets.
I don't think it's worth it either. I much rather just spend less time at airports.
I usually fly Ryanair out of smaller European airports so quite often it's not even an option.
cheapskate
To enjoy the facilities of some lounges you really have to arrive a good few hours before your flight.
True
You have to be good with time management lol
It has come in handy during a last minute flight delay. American is frequently delayed
I remember reading a forum post that a lot of these lounges have become really trashy with people devouring food and getting plastered right then and there, it's less like a classy place to relax but for rampant hedonism for the card holders.
And then you just hear that you can only check in three hours before takeoff and you're in a lounge experience rush.
It's not about check-in, it's about the layover. If there's lounge access, you happily take a slightly longer layover.
@@adamdejesus4017 Yup why get pampered for 5 hours when you can make 1-2 stops and get pampered for 11?
Everyone complains about overcrowded lounges and long lines to get in, but when an airline restricts access and makes it harder to avoid long lines and overcrowding (like Delta recently tried, before they had to backtrack) people get enraged. The truth is everyone wants to restrict others right under them. They all still want access, but want to restrict anyone else who may have slightly less spend, or slightly lower status, or a different credit card than they do. But guess what? EVERYONE wants the cutoff to be right below themselves. If everyone is special, then no one is special. Where do airlines draw the line? Because no matter what, that group that gets cutoff will be very vocally screaming about how it's not fair, how loyalty means nothing, etc., etc., then also complain on twitter (refuse to use the new name) and be snapping pics for instagram about how the lines are sooooooo long and the club is soooooooo crowded and it's not restrictive enough. Round and round it goes.
True, and I get around it by avoiding those elitist clubs. I save so much money by not trying to mold my credit card choices and spending to getting status and lounge access. I mean unless you fly at least weekly year round, how beneficial is a lounge? Really? You stay there for a little bit before or after your flight, it's not like you stay there over night.
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I was sexually assaulted in an airport lounge shower !!
Well airlines in their pursuit of more money from premium tickets allowed larger and larger groups access to the lounges. Now of course they can't rescind it without howls. Blame the airlines because we live in a very entitled age.
They’re pretty dumb, you don’t get angry at an apple for being sweet, you just pick it off the tree.
I've seen the American lounges at PHX routinely be standing room only during peak times I get lounge access through the AA Executive card that my company pays for. But not only is the annual fee going from $450 to $600, over the past few years, they've made changes to the rules that make it much harder to get the upgrades that they consider benefits because everyone and their grandmother seem to be eligible now. That free 1st class upgrade benefit isn't worth much when I'm number 37 on the wait list.
I use the first lounges when flying internationally, but dropped my domestic lounge memberships due to overcrowding. The waiting areas in the main part of the airport are often less crowded.
Those are former US lounges. Always been dumps.
I was sexually assaulted in an airport lounge shower !!
They want to return it back to the exclusive rich people lounge. Rich ppl won't mind the increase.
The centurion lounges are just OK. I remember asking for champagne one time and the woman gave me Prosecco without saying anything. I know now champagne is only for centurion card holders, but she could've told me instead of trying to insult my intelligence like I wasn't going to taste the difference.
I once had a three hour layover in Chicago, and I was gonna try out the Delta lounge for the first time... but because of the way that stupid airport is laid out, it would've meant going through security AGAIN just to get there, and then going through security AGAIN to get to my connecting flight. Nothing is worth that.
I was sexually assaulted in an airport lounge shower !!
Getting my rear end checked once is enough for one day.
Get the TSA Pass and you won't have this problem.
Had this same problem flying into and out of LaGuardia this year. Such a pain in the ass.
I hate ORD
Maybe airports having proper lounges for masses of flyers to rest during long layovers would help with the pressure. Then airlines could focus on the luxury and exclusivity rather then space or capacity.
Since restaurants in the airports are overpriced to the point that the credit cards and airline lounges are actually cheaper with more value if you fly often.
Just like the Titanic was paid for with 3rd class steerage tickets… so airlines exist solely by coach fares.
I disagree with you. Lounge should be for the folks that always spending money. Its bad enough you got the folks from the ghetto flying and now you want them access to lounges. Ill keep sticking to international flights
@@romeogerolaga7505 Agreed.
@@romeogerolaga7505 Seeing all the entitled comments here is amazing. If everyone gets a lounge, no one gets a lounge.
You don't need "miles cards" and things like that to access airport lounges, many (if not most) offer daily passes for $60 or so, alternatively you can simply go to an airport restaurant and rest there while sipping a drink.
And this can be actually a cheaper option than owning a "magical" credit card, collecting flight miles, paying for xxxxx Discount Club subscriptions etc - most of them are meant to essentially rip off unaware consumers by make them spending a loooot more than they would normally do.
I've never been in a lounge and honestly it's been fine. My only real gripe is expensive airport food but the terminal I usually depart from has a chain bakery with consistent pricing. Outside holidays and peak summer it's not hard to find a seat somewhere in the gates. And I try to fly a bit earlier when it's empty. It's not luxury but it's far from uncomfortable. A snack, a place to sit so I can read or phone scroll, and a window to see the airplanes pushing back. That's all I need to pass the time.
I literally just said the majority of what you did! I don’t want much from an airport. I just want to get to my destination safely and alive.
Agreed, some airports have charger station high-tops now at the gate and those are definitely more convenient if you need somewhere to eat and be on the laptop. I only go the lounges if I can get it reimbursed on the company card and need a booth to take business calls, otherwise, it's the gate or a nice airport restaurant I go, lol.
Well it use to be a nice perk... Amex ruined their lounge experience with too many cards issued and priority pass is a joke. Most of these newer companies getting in on the "we want to reward our customers" are behind the curve already.
Priority Pass is pretty much a knock-off as far as food goes, but bathrooms are better and so is seating compared to the gates. And at half the cost of an executive club, it’s tolerable.
I agree, not once could I use Priority pass in domestic and international airports. It's garbage. Centurion lounges are nearly always full and it's not even that good. The one in Charlotte was almost ALWAYS far away from the gate
It heavily depends on where you travel. Domestically I use centurion lounges. Abroad I've used priority pass and honestly the lounges abroad have been better than anything that American Express has offered with centurion lounges. I haven't not had crowding issues in 2 years now. The service is a joke too. One day flying out early I was at the lounge at open and all they had available was fruit. I was so confused. They said they wouldn't have hot food ready for an hour and a half....
I kind of felt like a Karen at that moment just from how I was thinking but my flight was in an hour. So I didn't get to get a hot breakfast or anything. I asked friends about their lounge experiences and I mentioned my experience and they thought I was joking. They said they always had hot food ready at open in their lounges.
This is just in DFW though I will say. I've walked out of the lounge before and gone to capital one to pay to get in. I went in and told them about the joke of the experience I had with amex a year ago and they actually let me in for free even though I didn't have the card at the time.
Completely different lounge experience. Actually felt like I was in a lounge. No crowding, better food, nicer staff...
The only thing keeping me from cancelling my amex plat business card right now is that capital one only has two lounges in America right now. If they had one or two on west coast id cancel my plat right now since I regularly connect through west coast. I feel like centurion lounges are just better to grab and go at this point. I've seen crowding in their lounges worse than actually at the gate sometimes. It's ridiculous.
Priority pass like I said though at least in my experience has been so much better than centurion lounges at least abroad comparing to the centurion lounge experience domestically for me at least
domestic the priority pass is useless. Even the few lounges that are listed on their app won't let you in during busy times, which is basically all the time. Internationally it's a lot better, and there's usually one solid option in every international airport. Although in Egypt one time it was just a room with 5 chairs and bottled water.... and the light wasn't even turned on.
I had the black card access thanks to my husband. I was told that this was a card for rich people. Well I guess there are a lot of rich people, because it was packed and there was no place to sit unless I wanted to clean my own table and chair. I found the business class lounge with Etihad to be better with larger showers that had better lighting. Travel is difficult now I think because there are just so many people who are told that they are elite members with airlines/hotels and there is an overwhelming "do you know who I am" attitude.
They should be open 24hrs! I have been in many red eyes and no lounges are open. It makes it worthless to have the privilege and now being able to use them
I pay annually for access to the United Airlines lounges. Where once I found peace and quiet I now find crowds of people competing for a place to sit down. This is even true of Polaris lounges which are limited to international travelers in business class. Recently I had access to the British Airways lounge at Heathrow's Terminal 5 because I was flying in business. It was absolutely packed, and I was lucky to locate a seat. I no longer feel that I’m getting my money's worth!
I was sexually assaulted in an airport lounge shower !!
I like lounges but I always felt like they’re missing the elite essentials, like private shower rooms, and private mtg rooms and sleeping area. And an onsite makeup/hair bar! Imagine getting a quick touch up before landing and heading straight into a meeting. Now I would pay big bucks for that. Not just a place to sit and eat snacks.
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@@LittleMissSunshine721 Someone should really give me a call - I have so many ideas to make going into an airport lounge a status symbol - the simplest and most visible way to do that is to make lounge goers look relaxed, clean, and put together - since all the other travellers look exhausted and disheveled!
that already exists, except the makeup bar lol thats a cool idea
Depends were. United lounges in some cities,SFO, etc have some of those. Luftansa in FRA definitely has those in addition to 10 or so locations. There is nothing like a show after sending all day coming from the state. Also, at FRA the sleeping spaces are nice, but there are other people in other pods. The food is also good at FRA and they have a wide variety of different types of rooms. Some are small for a small travel group of a family or two, and some are open where you just get a table. If you want makeup done there seems to be a number of places in the makeup sales area at FRA.
United has some of these already but I heard it's expensive to business class only
We travel for fun about every 6 weeks, both long haul and quick weekends away, if a lounge is available to us either through loyalty or credit card perks we will try to get in, so far, we’ve always had access. Some are definitely better than others. The free wine before a flight is a nice treat, but my favorites are the shower lounges especially when we’ve done a full day of exploring before a late red-eye helps with the icky feeling on the plane.
Even with access to the Centurion Lounge, nothing beats the warmth of the dear old USO lounges.❤
It used to be quiet and there were plenty of seats to sit at and food/drinks were readily available. Lounges were a good place for weary travelers to relax and refresh from a long traveling day. Ever since having a certain credit card gave you access to a lounge, it’s been crowded and service has been mediocre at best. Get rid of the credit card access and go back to the old system of only allowing people with airline status or who are traveling in business class and above that day to be allowed into lounges. Then it won’t be crowded anymore.
When I travel I want to spend the least amount of time in the airport. I'd rather be spending time in whatever city I'm in for the maximum amount of time I can
yeah, it's only good for layovers
@@user-pe3tt7iu7g but I'd literally stab my eyes out before I take a layover itinerary
It’s not that lounges are becoming harder to access, it’s that they got way TOO easy to access, and they’re trying to dial it back again
This. This 1000%.
I got a priority pass through AMEX and half the time I can’t even get in the lounge, then when in there they’re packed. Nothing premium about them.
Can't wait for a Spirit lounge one day. Wonder what that would look like.
It would look like the inside of a NYC subway car. ... and I wouldn't be surprised if you get robbed and stabbed while relaxing in the SPIRIT lounge. lol
Then you will become a spirit.
WWE
So a JetBlue lounge
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I love having access to airport lounges. Sometimes they reach 80-90% capacity, sure; but to me that beats the severly over crowded common areas elsewhere in the airport.
and the noise of the terminals.
I have travelled domestically and internationally on airlines for business and pleasure for over 40 years, I have had the pinnacle of loyalty cards over this time, but I can honestly say other than having a private jet which I don’t, the air travel experience has decreased significantly to a standard a lot less than decades ago.
I am in your shoes too. Thinking of how it used to be compared to the way it is today, just makes me cringe.
Actually I remember taking my first flight in the mid 1970’s. It was a fabulous experience. The last time I flew (which was in 2022), it was a truly miserable experience. I felt as if I was in “steerage”.
It's a horrible experience now. a complete clownshow.
Airports are bus stations now.
Greyhound experience lol
Lounges are OK, but my preferred perk is skipping lines at the airport. So, VIP counters, early boarding, express security, etc…
I like that way for travel too! No way do I want to be at the airport longer than needed.
@@Liz-in8lu Have to agree, no way you'd catch me staying a minute longer than I need to at an airport. I'll go out of my way to arrange a schedule to be elsewhere.
Have been a Life member of a major US airline Airport Lounge since the 1980's. Back then, I used to fly for business about twice a month. Before, 9/11 at Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) it was great to arrive about three (3) hours prior to departure and just drop your bags off with a Sky Cap. Afterward, it was off to whichever Airport Lounge you had access too until about 1-hour before flight time (smile...smile).
The Disney World of Lounges - the hysteria about this is hysterical. I take a sandwich with me if I have a long wait - much cheaper.
I was sexually assaulted in an airport lounge shower !!
Singapore, Doha have amazing lounges.
"Traveling in style ain't worth the money or time unless you're flying on the company dime."
It depends on how much money you have. But for average people it isn't worth it
I used to go to my favorite lounge each time I had a flight. Recently, I rather just seat outside, and be on my own. Frankly, all you see is people eating like they have never eaten before, and for the fees that these companies charge, it doesn't feel exclusive anymore. Years ago, the idea was to have a great and relaxing experience. This days you go in, and is full, no were to seat, it is not pleasant anymore.
If it's Canada they probably haven't eaten they can't afford to.
and sometimes the food is better outside the lounge. it's become a place for alcoholics too.
@@DS-hq6oi but they can afford to pay for lounge privileges?? Makes no sense mate 🙄
Bet that none of them feel compelled to leave a tip 😢
That is not what I said, but originally that is what it was meant to be. Anyways, these lounges are crowded, and they are no longer what they were meant to be.@brooklynborn83
Airport lounges have become nothing but a cash grab now. I remember when they used to be so exclusive but now anyone can be in there and they’re massively overpriced, overvalued, and overcrowded. No different than being in the regular terminal.
All the schmucks identified as you see them waiting in those crazy long lines so they can score some free food as if it were a glorified soup kitchen for the poor. Like these lines have longer waits than those going through TSA lines. Sad to even see it.
Why don’t we make the entire airport nice for everyone…
Because humans always seek to differentiate themselves from other people
It’s all about the money. Where would the money of renovating the airports come from? At some point the cost will eventually be spread among the travelers
Can you pay for it all please?
funny the broke people wanna have the same standard as people who pay money for their comfort =))
Sure, and solve world hunger while they at it
Never get a travel card just for the lounge access, that's asinine. Only get it if you actually travel a lot and are accumulating enough miles on the card to offset the annual fee.
That's what's going on. More and more are getting a mileage card if it makes lounge access easier. I stone cold will not pay a damn annual fee on a credit card. Uh uh. The only reason my banker was able to hook me up with my current credit card was because there was no fee.
5:42 That TWA lounge is very cool!
I’ve been flying business class long haul for around 12 years now and while I’ve seen more of these lounges opening up the experience overall has gone down. Being able to pay for access when you’re flying economy has negated the experience as it’s caused overcrowding too many times. Unless I’ve a long layover (which is rare) most of the time I don’t even bother anymore.
Single day access is like $95 per person. Who is paying that knowing dam well they're not getting $95 in stuff?? I would just take my $95 to an airport bar/restaurant. Although those are usually packed too.
Damn too many of those poor people around huh!?
@@alexnogues4246basically, yeah.
It’s pretty disappointing when they lay out stale, prepackaged bagels now and you see economy flyers stuffing their pockets with as many as they can take with them.
You sound quite snooty @@Cwgrlup I'm glad I'm not your neighbour.
I don't stay at an airport long enough to use a lounge. I be pushing it sometimes making it to my flight on time 😂
Yeah, you don't get it.
@@BlownMacTruck Explain
@@choosey87People with lounge access don’t worry about getting there too early. You can give yourself a wide amount of time to get there because it doesn’t matter if you’re chilling in a quiet lounge away from annoying crowds and airport chaos. When your boarding time comes, you head over to the gate and bypass the line. In other words, it’s a completely different way of using an airport. Since you’ve never experienced this, you don’t get it.
@@BlownMacTruckalso you totally misread the persons comment, they said they don't get there early, they get to the airport just in time to board the flight.
@@malcriadamedina5358God, you missed the point too. Timing getting to the airport, getting through security, plus the walk to the gate (all extremely variable) makes arriving just before boarding annoying. Add in delays and gate moves and everything else that can and does happen, and it’s pretty dumb to bank on arriving right at designated boarding times.
The point is you don’t have to worry about any of that AT ALL.
Lounges have only become something that airlines think they can draw customers with because air travel has become so miserable. The seats are small, the timing is inflexible, and the security wait is long and unpredictable. if flying was more like train travel, there would be no need for lounges because everyone would show up 15 minutes before their flight.
So grateful for lounges honestly the fact that you can shower while in transit is so convenient. Really hate not feeling fresh in a different country so I recommend you always pack an extra outfit for your layover. The lounge in Abu Dhabi you will still find your luggage right where you put it is a blessing.
Apparently, airfares have been spiked up since post-Covid. For instances, I had paid usd3400 in summer 2020 for Delta One from NYC to HKG. Today, it costs almost usd9000 for the very same destinations.
that's more of a China-US thing rather the airline thing. I think there are restriction of some sort on both sides. Flights between NYC and Japan vs NYC and China is just way too different when you look at timing and pricing.
@@Steven-xf8mz unsure if politics have anything to do with it but when I compare Delta with Cathy Pacific, United Airlines and other renown international airlines, somehow Delta’s prices are at least 2.5 times higher.
Well that would be strange since DL discontinued service to HKG in 2018.
@@lmc2664 Airports are governed by local govt, both sides has limitation on # of flights, and these flights aren't always split to every airline equally. If a specific flight is 2.5x higher, who would fly it? Airfare are dynamic, it's not a flat rate since the tickets goes online. Like i said from my original statement, check out flights between NYC and Tokyo, perhaps NYC and Seoul, then NYC to Beijing/Shanghai. China and US agreed to more flights few months ago that started in Sept which might help lower the airfare, but this may not matter if demands trickles higher.
@@johniii8147where did you get this news from? I flew to HKG via Delta not once but twice in 2019.
I remember when they used to give vets space in the launches but they value profit over courtesy now
prior to the pandemic I was using Priority Pass for all my lounge needs, and it was awesome, you really felt special. Fastforward to today, that's no longer the case. I visited Frankfurt last week and all lounges were packed and the food choices were terrible. They also treat you like a production cow, many times I couldn't get in because there was no space. :/ Sucks.
Lounged used to be full of classy people. Now I more and more see Walmart type of crowd there and families with kids. Despicable!
They should keep it limited and exclusive if they want it to last for the long haul. I would add a walk through for some of the amenities so they can still feel a part of the lounge and sell or give away labeled exclusive items
Nice summary and review of the overall lounge situation.
Airports need to create their own spaces like this for a budget-cost friendly lounge for travelers with long connection times who are essentially trapped at the airport for more than 3hrs. This could be good for the airports too by creating new revenue if they do it right & provide some relief to the airline lounges that are now over-crowded and no longer as relaxing.. like Delta’s lounge in some you can’t even get in & have to stand outside in a line to wait for just the space to be in there, even if you pay for the executive level membership. It’s ridiculous.
Most other countries in the world do.... but the USA? LOL... that's a good one!
The new BKK airport in Thailand has more than 10 lounges you can choose from and so does Seoul in Korea.
Why would anyone cater to budget travelers? Why does everyone feel entitled to something special? Because when everyone is special, no one is special.
@@texastuna as a budget traveler I'm not looking to be treated special. I don't expect luxury. I just wanted to be treated humanely. Just a decent place to rest. It doesn't have to be luxurious like an actual lounge. Most airports that I've been to in Europe and Asia have such things ...even for budget travelers.
That is opposite of what a business would do. The objective of a lounge is exclusivity. It's like you didn't watch the video.
Delta got me. I carry the platinum and travel for work, and will often prefer to book delta simply for sky club access. It’s the number one reason I hold the card.
Also helps that delta offers the best product of the three major carriers. Easy boarding, friendly staff, more legroom, and greater convenience. I’d rather pay a premium for that than get stuck at the airport with another airline that just doesn’t give a crap.
For $700 a year to access the lounge,Id rather upgrade my ticket to a better seat on the plane.
5:00 wouldn't think of it as a reservation but as a waiting list and then continues to give a definition of a reservation
lounge access in the united states is very stupid to me these days. i'd rather spend a meal in an airport restaurant and not be bothered by overcrowded lounge people.
Why spend money if your credit card give you free access to lounge and there’s a buffet inside
People on average consume like 30-50dollars worth of food/drinks in their ~1hr in a lounge. Some lounges offer borderline fine dining and premium alcohol for free. Why would you pay for garbage airport food which is also super overpriced when you can get at least decent food and drinks for free?
@@freddytang2128 Because you usually have to spend more to qualify. I mean if you're flying 1st class all the time then by all means enjoy the extra perk of the lounge but so many that aren't necessarily wealthy will adjust credit card and spending choices to get lounge access and other perks typically associated with big spenders/frequent flyers.
@@dsong2006 $50 is 10x cheaper than the $500 some people spend on annual fee for a single credit card that gets them lounge access the few times they fly every year. Nothing wrong with the lounge itself but some (actually many) people buy their way into the lounge and when you do that it's typically not a benefit but an expense.
"Borderline fine dining and premium alcohol for free". Um if you're at a lounge outside of the US perhaps (but this video isn't about foreign lounges). US lounges offer complimentary "non-premium house liquors" at best (no premium alcohol as you assert) and I wouldnt consider the buffets they offer "borderline fine dining" 😅 @@dsong2006
Nowadays in Brazil it’s really easy to get a black card (Visa Infinite/ mastercard black/ amex the platinum card… if you invest 1.000 usd = 5.000 reais you get a blck card with 2 free dragon pass access.
Now the lounges are pack with people…
In comparison couple years ago, only the millionaires had access to those lounges.
Just go to the bar at whatever airport you're in. Very few screaming children at the bar, which means almost no entitled parents. You also lose all of the entitled rich people who are at their designated rich person place. Grab a few drinks, and chill out. Had a wonderful experience at Toronto's airport over the summer at the bar with a beautiful runway view. Got a few drinks, and people left me alone. $0 entry fee. No line. The drink prices weren't even that bad. I've seen videos of the Maple Leaf lounge at Toronto, and honestly? The publicly accessible bar was leaps and bounds better.
Hmm...depends on the country. Don't go to a bar in the UK pre a flight seeing as it's a tradition for many to get truly wasted before flights, always a loud lads or girls holiday/hen/stag do etc. Also rich people in lounges? It's just the working/middle class now, most big airports/airlines have their own lounges solely for 1st/business class now
@@d.b.cooper1 Some have separate terminal access areas for the "true" rich people vs the posers.
I kinda agree lol
SFO has the best airport I’ve been too. It’s so relaxing in San Francisco. San Diego too
I used to do lounges on a semi regular basis. I enjoyed the peaceful atmosphere along with free food and drinks.
Then they became more crowded and noisier. By the time there were lines of people waiting to get in I decided to stop.
Now they're very poor value for money.
Anyone waiting in those kinds of lines is basically a cheapo who just wants "free food". I even saw people taking extra food off the buffet to put into containers so they can not only snack on it on the flight, but to actually have full meals after they arrive at their destination.
I frequently fly to the ME, and the lounges in Beirut and Amman are straight out of the glory days of flying. Attractive hostesses, smoking allowed, open bar, etc..
As a business class ticket holder, I was shocked to see how crowded the Sky Lounge was. I paid extra $$$$$ for privacy and comfort. It's ridiculous.
Cope
There are more rich people now😂
Exactly
LOL 😂 The few times I've flown, I look at those airport lounges as sad and pathetic. To think somebody flies so much that they rarely even see home and spent a ton of money to sit in a nice little bar and get drunk, or feel any sort of comfort and companionship is one of the most limp wrist, sad, lonely existences i have ever seen.
I'm all for the clamping down on access to get back to some exclusivity and lower crowds. Last few times through Atlanta, the bathrooms in the Delta lounges were ironically nastier than the main terminal bathrooms. That's NOT the fault of custodial or the Delta employees. The lounges are over-packed and it's just a mass number of people in there vs. the smaller bathrooms available not able to handle the traffic.
Cattle.
I never even thought about going to a airport lounge. I dont even think i have enough time to enjoy it. I don't want to be in the airport longer than i need to be.
People who post things like this completely miss the point. No one wants to be in the airport longer than necessary. Lounges make it so it doesn't matter how long or short you're there.
yeah but you also don't want to miss the flight and there are a million X factors from your front door to the gate starting with the uber who is never on time, to traffic, to security....I always leave myself 1.5-2 hours and that's where a nice lounge, some free food & alcohol hits the spot.
@@BlownMacTruckthere is no lounge that remotely compares to my house or hotel. Thanks, I'd rather stay there. Also, I will never book a layover trip. Nonstop or I'm not going. If your city doesn't have nonstop service from my city then it's probably not worth going 😂
@@supacheef1 You've basically told everyone you're a travel noob with that comment. I seriously doubt your house is better than the Qatar lounge at Doha, unless you have attendants at your place giving you fresh, warm towels after shower in a completely decked-out private suite, or cooking anything from a giant menu at three different restaurants (and that's just the surface).
If you have no intention of having a layover, you've effectively shut yourself off from giant chunks of the world. You clearly fly the budget airlines to domestic locations (and even then, you're struggling to balance arriving at the gate on a knife's edge and failing most of the time, while I haven't worried about any of that and bypassed the boarding line when I got to the gate), so yeah, it's clear you don't get it.
@@BlownMacTruck I'm sure I've flown a lot more than you, and I agree with supacheef1
Australian here. I live in Sydney and worked in Karratha (look it up on a map) and did the return trip with Qantas once a month for ten years. I made gold which gave me access to the regular Qantas lounge in Australia plus theirs and all partners' business lounges outside Australia in six months with a guest in tow who need not be flying but only before my flight, and Platinum which gave me access to Qantas' business lounges in Australia plus theirs and all partners' first class lounges outside Australia after a year with two guests before and after a flight. I'd use the lounge in Sydney, Perth and Karratha on every trip and find it incedible that domestic travellers in the US can't access the lounges. Back in 2018, wife and I went to the UK via Dubai and let me tell you, you haven't lived until you've been in the Emirates (Qantas partner) first class lounge in Dubai. Came back via Singapore and Qantas' lounge there was very nice as was the one at Heathrow. Going to Spain next year via Dubai both ways with a 10 hour layover on the return. To have someone wait on us hand and foot (I'm not exaggerating) for 10 hours will be hard to take but we'll manage. Oh, I made lifetime gold after nine years so even though I left that job four years ago and only fly occaisionally now, I have lounge access all over the world (One World) for life and just to top it off, all flights to and from work were paid for by the company so all this didn't cost me one red cent. Long story short, lounge access makes a huge difference to flying, even if you go economy. Funny story - there are two ways to leave the Emirates 1st class lounge in Dubai and which one you use depends on where your seat is on the plane. I asked the attendant and she asked to see my boarding pass to see where my seat was. When she saw I was in an economy seat, the look on her face was utterly priceless. She couldn't believe I was in there.
I tried the Alaska lounges a few times when they had a program that made them accessible to occasional flyers. I found them underwhelming - barely worth the discounted price. Now, they require annual membership, which definitely rules them out for me.
I really like the Centurion lounge and delta lounge, but they are always crowded.
Honestly, as a frequent traveler, allowing credit card holders and people bringing in their families quickly ruined the lounge experience. If a credit card makes their own lounge then fine but airline lounges should only be occupied by people who earn the status or pay the steep price to get in.
agree 100%
If everyone can get access to it, it's no longer a premium offering. When my dad traveled and went to a lounge everyone wore business dress clothing and family members were the exception. I think I went to a lounge once just before a flight when I was a kid and had to be quiet and well dressed. But that was the only time.
Delta airlines did that but everyone is mad and going Karen for absolutely no reason at all! Bunch of toddler acting Karen’s were saying to reduce people in the lounge so they did
They’ve their own. Chase sapphire lounges
What's the difference between paying 'the steep price to get in' in terms of yearly membership fees vs. paying a massive credit card fee to gain access? Genuinely curious. I do agree the increase of entire families with children running around/making noise has dampened the experience.
The centurion lounge in Denver is awesome. But if they restrict my access and say I need to purchase 75k first then I’m definitely cancelling my Amex platinum card.
I remember lounges used to be fancy. Now the only nice thing about it is the shower.
Golly, why would anyone want to use a shower that was used by god only knows how many people. Even worse, I've heard of cases of people getting MRSA infections in their feet from using public showers.
feels good having the access to USO
This is a US problem, because the US is the only country where everyone has free status via a CC or other easy to access means.
It’s Amex fault for giving out those platinum card like it’s candy. Chase you actually need a 740 fico score or above to get considered for their premium cards as as good banking relationship. When they start building more lounge it will be back to the old days
Same case here in in India too. Easy access to credit cards with lounge access features have increased the crowding at airport lounges.
Due to this, in the last six months, one card which I hold has removed the lounge access feature. While two others have added a restriction of minimum spends to get the lounge access which was not there earlier.
I feel like this is a tragedy of the commons scenario. Lounges are nice when it's premium, but if everything is "premium", then nothing is, right?
Well it’s not really the commons is it.
“It’s not a money maker for us. It’s about offering an experience to those who pay a premium”😂
My wife & I are both top tier with United (1K - Star Alliance), and British Airways (Gold - One World), and we have noticed that lounges can and/or have been full! We've never been turned away from a lounge, but trying to find a seat can be a challenge...both in United's Polaris Lounges and British Airways first class lounges.
My sole purpose is to have a meal before boarding since I don't eat on the flights. Once I hear the double ding (10,000 ft), I recline to a bed and sleep throughout the flight.
It’s because you have *G and one world sapphire. They never turn these members away. They only turn away credit card holders and priority pass members.
cool story bro
yeah that's my main reason for the lounge as well, to avoid that horrid airplane food.
The only reason to pay for lounges is when they have really good food, are not crowded AND I have at least a couple hours to spare. So basically the question is, how much food can I stuff into my belly to make it worthwile.
Besides that, the best way to fly - and I am not kidding:
Comfy clothes, a blanket, a good sleeping mask, ANC over ear head phones, a large, high quality neck pillow and a shot of high volume alcohol right before the flight. With this setup, I usually get enough sleep for long travel distances.
Ofc it helps to be awake for too long before the flight so you already board while being a bit exhausted.
Good. If everyone gets access to a lounge, then it just becomes another crowded airport spot, which is exactly what they were designed to get away from. People really spend $100s to get $20 worth of free food 😂
True for the US. In the civilised parts of the world, airports are still fun.
When anyone uses the word “invest” instead of buying or spending when it comes to buying or spending on a mass commodity or product, run for the hills.
Perfect video to keep my anxiety high just before i have to fly
LOL, I avoid airport lounges. The public free lounges may be noisy but ironically, they offer what I crave: a slightly quite but open space to stretch out before the flight.
The Delta lounges are crowded, the food is terrible, most of the chairs are uncomfortable. The workers/staff do a good job, so that is a plus. Overall a failing grade from my perspective
I pay a big annual fee to AMEX to get into the Delta Lounges. Last year it was well worth it because I was traveling two times a week and the long layovers in Atlanta were less frustrating. But I have had times when getting into the lounge was a very long wait, or I had to travel across to other terminals to get to one that was less busy. I think it's time to drop the loyalty. For regular travelers maybe it's worth it, but now that I only travel occasionally I can just find a restaurant, or sit it out. Plus traveling to Atlanta first isn't always the smartest or most convenient option.
then come to Bangladesh and take a MX card
it takes a hundred dollar annual fee
I always thought only business or first class could use the lounges anyway. Never knew economy could do this.
Ban them kids
I'm a kid and I approve this message
Companies are obsessed with turning everything into a club
- gyms
- airports
- supermarkets
Let the employees back in..
The other month, I saw a lounge doing reservations. This is the first time I've seen that anywhere in the entire world. I HATED it, so I really hope that doesn't become a thing.
I took my wife to an Amex lounge, and she had never experienced it, now she cannot go back. I literally watched the stress fade away in her face. She's an anxious flyer, so it's worth it for us.
She needs a real man
Not worth it for me but happy wife, happy life! Good reason.
@@user-pe3tt7iu7g And that's a big reason for marriage failures.
This is so bizarre to me. Why do we want to spend more time at airports than needed?
I didn’t realize centurion lounges were a relatively new thing
As a member in the US military, I rather go to USO (United Service Organization) when I travel stateside. The USO is only for USA military service members and veterans. It’s free.
JUST because you say 'premium' doesn't mean they make your seats bigger
From time to time Turkish off two nights free for business class travellers. Also to save on you spending time in the lounge if your stop over is longer than 4 hours they offer you a free city bus tour with tea.
Unfortunatley, the peak was the two Eastern Airlines owned Ionosphere Clubs at Atlanta in the 1980s. It's been all downhill on service and crowding ever since.
In 2006, coming back to the states from Iraq, for two weeks of leave to be with family and friends, we were offered to wait and rest for our connecting flights in the Houston International Airport privilege lounge. What or who the lounge belonged to I really don't know but it was very nice. There were about 20 of us all in clean desert field uniforms. We were all very appreciative of the opportunity of the lounge and it was very comfortable and with our occupancy the lounge was about 50% full if you consider the people to chairs ratio. A few of the civilians there were curious and happily struck up conversations with us but there were several of the civilians that were upset about our presence and were vocal about it. Two of those people loudly left the lounge threatening various actions. Of course we all stayed on our best behavior and trickled out as our various connecting flights came up. It's the only time I've been in a lounge like that and will most likely be the only time. I still appreciate the experience.
When I was travelling a lot, I had lounge access, but I rarely used it.
What I did was change by flight while I was in the taxi on the freeway going to the airport.
I changed my flight booking such that I would get out of the taxi and walk straight to gate and board the plane.
Why wait???
The problem is not because the lounges don't have enough seats, it is the fact flights tend to arrive (transfers)/depart during rush airport hours. If take a flight in the evenings, the lounges are hardly 50% full.
This video is incredibly hilarious lol
*laughs in smart consumer*
The reservation que sounds like top golf
Free checked bags....free to....sit there?!? Just get to airport with a LITTLE time for your flight. Lounges were SUPPOSED to be for overnight waiting flights
This guy has never heard of a layover.
We get it. You don't travel much and don't understand how stuff like this works.
He is right however, if the layover is long enough why wouldn’t you just leave, visit whatever and return? An airport is a no different than a big bus station and no one should want to spend more time more than they need to in there
@@RicardoRodriguesSilva-p5pYou seem to think every single place with a layover means there are good reasons to go through immigration, haul all your stuff around, and squeeze all that into a tiny schedule in a place that may or may not be interesting, all for a few hours, versus chilling in a lounge, getting some food, grabbing a nap, and taking a shower.
Not all the stuff, surely one who considers a loungue has checked in all its belongings so one doesn't need to carry anything around, if indeed is a layover@@BlownMacTruck