@@CatmunistCom honestly etienne too, the targetting options seem a little reductive, it makes it unnecessarily anti-player, maybe they can keep the current targetting options as an option for casual players
@@bmanjamin *Divide and Conquer* sets the 1st and 4th drones to target *First,* 2nd and 3rd to target *Strong.* With *Zone Defense,* the 1st drone is on *First,* the 2nd, *Strong,* 3rd *Last,* and 4th *Close.*
you actualy gave yourself more money than you should have in a game of chimps. this is a very minor thing that most likely won't make a difference but I just thought it was worth mentioning. it would be great if there was a mod that let you start a game in debt so that the total amount of money in your game of chimps would be unaffected.
Yeah I know, the last run of the video is the most legit run I could think of with no extra cash and Churchill getting 0 defensive help after he’s placed
For the argument that he should not be counted as an actual 1tc because of his price, as Ryan said, people had to start with 1k to start with Corvus to even preform his 1tc, but the point that you could still use another tower to just use as the starting tower to afford Churchill still stands, opening up the way for way too many possible 2tc combinations. (If you want more info about 2tc and stuff, I’d suggest checking out HBomb’s 2tc history video)
It makes me want an April fools video where it's like "Can an Anti-Bloon 1TC" and the starting line is, "Now I know what you're thinking. You can't afford the Super Monkey to start in Chimps. So Just like you'll see in a lot of Corvus or Churchhill 1TCs. I've given myself a little extra money just to get started" Then he's given himself enough money to buy the Anti-Bloon on round 6
im pretty sure the reason 1tc's with corvous were allowed is becasue you could afford him in co op chimps wether as i dont think you can afford churchil straight up
I do think the Corvus 1TC had more legitimacy than this because you could get r6 Corvus money if you did it in co-op I've heard the term "one tower co-op CHIMPS" for that in particular
Besides, this literally just became 2TC with Churchill and Submerge& Support ...which means we can do a lot of other base tower combos as well, such as Dart Monkey, Sniper Monkey, and Ninja Monkey!
legitimacy in this regard is completely useless. When you read 1TC Churchill, you know the dude couldn't actually get the money, so it's the only way for this to exist. Therefor, it's legitimate.
churchill's weakness is the bloon of the same colour as him: lime. OVER AN HOUR ON ONE ROUND!!?! wow great job. 2 megapops 2tc. i bet there's a lot of towers that work with churchill if this is possible, you even had 20k spare.
this is a 1 TC in the same way that using an instant monkey to drop a predeveloped tower. Yes, that one tower can complete the game but it isn't something that can naturally happen.
What you should have done was place a couple villages (or a village with upgrades that won’t affect anything) to pay back the extra starting cash. And do that before you buy any upgrades on him. That would even out the extra starting money dilemma. The reason it was accepted with Corvus is because he was affordable with co-op starting cash (I believe 3 player). Churchill is not affordable even in 4 player.
I wonder if it would be possible to use a village instead of sub. Place Churchill first then village up to 0-2-0 by round 24, then Churchill could get 100% of the pops. If possible I wonder if it would be easier or harder.
Ancient Portal map might work because you could place Churchill on the platform that gives him camo detection and all damage types to help clear that early camo round and the black issue you had later. Although it is a smaller map so might get sketchy. But you also have the stone heads ability for help later on
I think if you modify the starting cash then the starting round should also be at a time that cash amount is reached since otherwise you get xp you wouldn't normally get
For Churchill, giving yourself enough starting cash makes a huge difference, simply because of how many rounds it usually takes to be able to afford him. So obviously he must be "overpowered" if you're placing him right from the start, otherwise he'd be completely useless in normal games
@@MehalicPops Yeah I know. I usually hate when people post comments without actually having watched the video, but when you asked if we thought "this" counts as a 1tc at around 0:38 , I figured, I'd just comment my opinion on that. Sorry dude
the difference between the churchhill 1TC and the corvus 1TC is that if you started with 4 players on chmps you would have enough money to afford corvus but not churchill
I would like to point out, people used coop starting cash to get corvus, so technically it was cheated, but at the same time you could've absolutely done it with a second account
I think it’d be really interesting if you do an uncut run of some of your challenges. Maybe not as a main video, but maybe uploaded unlisted? Just so the more insane among us can see all your tries for each round
i think that more than the attack speed i would have liked to see a churchill pierce buff i mean he has the explosive bits he shouldnt be having pierce problems
I just had a really good idea. Would a 2tc with pre-emptive strike and sauda be possible? The pre emptive can see camos given advanced intel, and saudas good at basically every thing else. . [note: there is a video of It on yt but as far as I can tell it doesn't exist on the BTD6 index :/]
I mean technically it should cause corvus is a 1tcc a 1 tower coop chimps cause it would require extra starting cash to even place him and he's banned from 2tc, corpus '1tc' requires a tower to be placed BEFORE him just like Churchill so Churchill should be banned
I didn’t, youtube allows u to test different thumbnails, so currently I have 2 thumbnails tested on this video and after some time TH-cam will decide which one is best. So if u reload the video u might get the other thumbnail
i still dont think its allowed because with corvus, you could go into co-op & start with extra cash. With churchill, you are $360 off affording him in 4p co-op & would be in theory $60 off affording him in 6p co-op (if it existed). 7p co-op & up would in theory not provide more starting cash so this couldn't be considered a 1tc
some other possible 1tc including top path/bottom path ace, even the best ace microers(like Duke), said that top path died to 54/55, and bottom path died to 40s, otherwise it is a total solo(shredder is deadly when microed well, spectre can save for big plane until almost 90 when big plane is bought, which demolished everything)
@@locrianphantom3547 the formula for co-op cash on the bloons wiki is (650 - 50x) * x where x is the number of players in a game. if you were to have 6 players, in theory you'd have 2100 starting cash total & each player would have 350 cash for themselves. when you have seven players, it stays at 2100 as then there would be 2100 cash split into 7 groups of 300. with 8 players you'd have 250 * 8 = 2000, & now it's starting to go backwards. thats why Ninja kiwi has capped co-op at only 4 players in a game, although up to 6 could in theory work.
It doesnt matter if you cant afford Churchill. The question is if he is powerfull enough to solo, rendering any 2tc with him meanningless. And the answer is yes.
Something that should be pointed out, The Corvus 1tc is actually a 1tcc, 1 tower coop chimps. Since in 4 player coop you can start with $1800. This is not a true 1tc, but is a true 1tcc. Churchill is not even a valid 1tcc. But still impressive none the less
Man you need to stop clickbaiting. What youre doing is impressive enough, stop trying to make every video look impossible in the thumbnail just for us to realize 3 minutes in, "oh it was impossible and he just lied"
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I think that churchil should have 2 targeting things one for machine gun and one for the attual gun
OMG IVE BEEN BEGGING FOR THIS. nk showed that they are willing to do this for robo monkey so there is no excuse not to give it to churchill
@@CatmunistCom honestly etienne too, the targetting options seem a little reductive, it makes it unnecessarily anti-player, maybe they can keep the current targetting options as an option for casual players
@@maggy40404i just got ettiene and i have no idea what any of the targeting options do
i just do first
@@bmanjamin *Divide and Conquer* sets the 1st and 4th drones to target *First,* 2nd and 3rd to target *Strong.*
With *Zone Defense,* the 1st drone is on *First,* the 2nd, *Strong,* 3rd *Last,* and 4th *Close.*
@@maildaemonthis helps a lot, thanks my friend
what if churchill did a backflip
That would be pretty cool I think
Fr @@MehalicPops
@@MehalicPopswhat if you did a backflip
He did in the comics
monke flip
you actualy gave yourself more money than you should have in a game of chimps. this is a very minor thing that most likely won't make a difference but I just thought it was worth mentioning. it would be great if there was a mod that let you start a game in debt so that the total amount of money in your game of chimps would be unaffected.
You can do this idk why He dont but its effecting leveling expashalie for the early game
Yeah I know, the last run of the video is the most legit run I could think of with no extra cash and Churchill getting 0 defensive help after he’s placed
@MehalicPops really nice decison ^^
Well the Corvus 1TC was possible if you went onto coop and had everyone's cash piled up onto one person so you could use that to justify this run
@@MehalicPops you could have just placed a village outside of range and upgraded it to waste the extra money you gave yourself
For the argument that he should not be counted as an actual 1tc because of his price, as Ryan said, people had to start with 1k to start with Corvus to even preform his 1tc, but the point that you could still use another tower to just use as the starting tower to afford Churchill still stands, opening up the way for way too many possible 2tc combinations. (If you want more info about 2tc and stuff, I’d suggest checking out HBomb’s 2tc history video)
Yeah Churchill should prob be banned from the 2TC index
It makes me want an April fools video where it's like "Can an Anti-Bloon 1TC" and the starting line is, "Now I know what you're thinking. You can't afford the Super Monkey to start in Chimps. So Just like you'll see in a lot of Corvus or Churchhill 1TCs. I've given myself a little extra money just to get started" Then he's given himself enough money to buy the Anti-Bloon on round 6
@@MehalicPops yeah idk maybe anything that can EASILY 2mp 2tc should probably be banned
@@MehalicPops But I just gotta ask, what is a Churhill that you got there in the challenge’s name at 0:00
@@CatmunistComthat’s dumb, the sentry champion can easily 2mp 2tc, should it be banned?
the amount of times i was screaming in my head "UPGRADE CHURCHILL"
I can relate there
So many times he could've upgraded
im pretty sure the reason 1tc's with corvous were allowed is becasue you could afford him in co op chimps wether as i dont think you can afford churchil straight up
Churchill be like:
Round 100 BAD: EZ
One camo balloon: HELL NO
8:28 Learned something new today.
I do think the Corvus 1TC had more legitimacy than this because you could get r6 Corvus money if you did it in co-op
I've heard the term "one tower co-op CHIMPS" for that in particular
Besides, this literally just became 2TC with Churchill and Submerge& Support
...which means we can do a lot of other base tower combos as well, such as Dart Monkey, Sniper Monkey, and Ninja Monkey!
legitimacy in this regard is completely useless.
When you read 1TC Churchill, you know the dude couldn't actually get the money, so it's the only way for this to exist. Therefor, it's legitimate.
corvus also just feels more legit bc he can get camo and lead popping by himself
That’s crazy good man. You’ve gotten so much better at this game. Well done and mad dedication for doing this
what is that pfp..
@ art and perfection
churchill's weakness is the bloon of the same colour as him: lime.
OVER AN HOUR ON ONE ROUND!!?!
wow great job. 2 megapops 2tc. i bet there's a lot of towers that work with churchill if this is possible, you even had 20k spare.
this is a 1 TC in the same way that using an instant monkey to drop a predeveloped tower. Yes, that one tower can complete the game but it isn't something that can naturally happen.
What you should have done was place a couple villages (or a village with upgrades that won’t affect anything) to pay back the extra starting cash. And do that before you buy any upgrades on him. That would even out the extra starting money dilemma. The reason it was accepted with Corvus is because he was affordable with co-op starting cash (I believe 3 player). Churchill is not affordable even in 4 player.
Thanks for the tip for getting All for One and One for One achievement. The 052 buccaneer really is just that good.
From battles 2 pro to now being a btd6 pro. Ggs good run.
I wonder if it would be possible to use a village instead of sub. Place Churchill first then village up to 0-2-0 by round 24, then Churchill could get 100% of the pops. If possible I wonder if it would be easier or harder.
that would be easier, since id have churchill lv more since r1 placement and churchill would get extra range from village
You could go to an advance map to get more xp on Churchill for the camo bloon then beat it that way
Still a CRAZY run, Ryan. Great job
Honestly at the start idk what is more fair start at the round that u get the money or start at round 6 with the exact money needed
Ancient Portal map might work because you could place Churchill on the platform that gives him camo detection and all damage types to help clear that early camo round and the black issue you had later. Although it is a smaller map so might get sketchy. But you also have the stone heads ability for help later on
Micro god holy, well done man!
I think if you modify the starting cash then the starting round should also be at a time that cash amount is reached since otherwise you get xp you wouldn't normally get
At least you got the 2 megapops for churchill legit
Actually, corvus 1tc was made using coop mode, because in total, it is 1.1k starting cash from the 2 players combined. just give to the other.
Great video, I'm glad to see someone showcasing how good chirchill is this update
Corvus being a startoff was with coop bonus cash. Not sure that the same applies to churchhill. Great video however!
Wizard ice farm is also an impossible challenge, its too good
For Churchill, giving yourself enough starting cash makes a huge difference, simply because of how many rounds it usually takes to be able to afford him. So obviously he must be "overpowered" if you're placing him right from the start, otherwise he'd be completely useless in normal games
I didn’t start with Churchill or give myself extra cash in my final attempt
@@MehalicPops Yeah I know. I usually hate when people post comments without actually having watched the video, but when you asked if we thought "this" counts as a 1tc at around 0:38 , I figured, I'd just comment my opinion on that. Sorry dude
All good :)
Rare example of a god tier content creator and a genuine commenter having a positive conversation; mechanical fan base for the win 😊
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I never use Churchill, but he was great for this week's Odyssey
I think Chruchill shouldnt count as 2tc Index because any towers that can pop a camo green will be able to be 2tc with him
the difference between the churchhill 1TC and the corvus 1TC is that if you started with 4 players on chmps you would have enough money to afford corvus but not churchill
24:33
99%?
That is 99.9%
damn didn't think he was that powerful
I would like to point out, people used coop starting cash to get corvus, so technically it was cheated, but at the same time you could've absolutely done it with a second account
I think it’d be really interesting if you do an uncut run of some of your challenges. Maybe not as a main video, but maybe uploaded unlisted? Just so the more insane among us can see all your tries for each round
i think that more than the attack speed i would have liked to see a churchill pierce buff
i mean he has the explosive bits he shouldnt be having pierce problems
Shouldve started at the round where you usually get churchill instead of round 6
I just had a really good idea. Would a 2tc with pre-emptive strike and sauda be possible? The pre emptive can see camos given advanced intel, and saudas good at basically every thing else.
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[note: there is a video of It on yt but as far as I can tell it doesn't exist on the BTD6 index :/]
Corvis did not do a 1tc as he can't be afforded, you can only affort him using coop money,
if this does it ban Churchill from the btd6 index lmao
I mean technically it should cause corvus is a 1tcc a 1 tower coop chimps cause it would require extra starting cash to even place him and he's banned from 2tc, corpus '1tc' requires a tower to be placed BEFORE him just like Churchill so Churchill should be banned
Maybe
i think ancient portals can be good cause you gain mib and camo detection plus churchill level ups faster
In normal games yes, however that rune on Ancient Portal is not an adequate position for this sort of challenge
@maildaemon I guess so, but i I still think the one with the extra popping power and range will do good
on scrapyard you couldve used the crusher for 63
So basically 1tc churchill would be possible if he wasnt so expensive and slow to lvl
Doing a fair 2tc is better than doing a fake 1tc
he did that. his winning attempt was a Churchill + Submerge & Support
do chimps mode with the dark dungeons secret tower
Churchill would be better if you could target the machine gun
wiz ice farm in btd6 when?
Maybe do a Churchill Energizer/Final Harmonic 2tc on a map that wasnt done before?
Churchill will/should be banned from the 2tc index tbh
@@CatmunistComwhy
@@CookieCrumble-d7x did you watch the fucking video??? he needs 3 RBE OF CAMO POPPING POWER TO SOLO CHIMPS
@@CatmunistCom and?
Now do a 1tc with quincy son of quincy
13:39 is that a battles 2 reference??
ah, I thought you were going to use that new fast forward or whatever
bro its 2 tc
Petition for Ryan to put a cool sensy in his room
whats a sensy
@MehalicPops the wax scented cube things
With camo detection!
Why did you change the thumbnail?
I didn’t, youtube allows u to test different thumbnails, so currently I have 2 thumbnails tested on this video and after some time TH-cam will decide which one is best. So if u reload the video u might get the other thumbnail
7:35 bro you had lvl10 up, that probably would've saved you
The ability only targets Moabs
Try ancient portal for the mib
that spot would absolutely not be good enough for him to beat the non camo rounds
flying fortress 1TC
What does his level 3 actually do?
Can you not 1tc with churchil on ancient portal because you get camo detection from a platform
Churchle
To be fair he should he cost so much to level and to place. Super awkward to use and doesn't buff or get good use of buffs.
Probably cant Pop the B.A.D
i love your videos
soo you did a churchill+sas 2tc just illegimatimately by starting with churchill. okay
Why isnt sentai applying laser shock 😭 jkjk
You used a 3 0 0 sub for 24 but can't you just do the extra cash start with Churchill and put a 0 0 0 ninja monkey at 24
That’s a worse option Becuase the ninja always gets pops. While the sub gives 0 help after it’s submerged and Churchill unlocks camo
@MehalicPops however you can place him at the very back with only the exit track in range it may get less pops than the sub
Ryan, daily uploads!!!!
Well if you can adjust starting money then I’d add 1TC for legend of the night
Jk 😂😂
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i still dont think its allowed because with corvus, you could go into co-op & start with extra cash. With churchill, you are $360 off affording him in 4p co-op & would be in theory $60 off affording him in 6p co-op (if it existed). 7p co-op & up would in theory not provide more starting cash so this couldn't be considered a 1tc
some other possible 1tc including top path/bottom path ace, even the best ace microers(like Duke), said that top path died to 54/55, and bottom path died to 40s, otherwise it is a total solo(shredder is deadly when microed well, spectre can save for big plane until almost 90 when big plane is bought, which demolished everything)
I’m not familiar with co-op mechanics. Why would 7p not increase starting cash more? How is co-op starting cash calculated?
@@locrianphantom3547 the formula for co-op cash on the bloons wiki is (650 - 50x) * x where x is the number of players in a game.
if you were to have 6 players, in theory you'd have 2100 starting cash total & each player would have 350 cash for themselves.
when you have seven players, it stays at 2100 as then there would be 2100 cash split into 7 groups of 300.
with 8 players you'd have 250 * 8 = 2000, & now it's starting to go backwards.
thats why Ninja kiwi has capped co-op at only 4 players in a game, although up to 6 could in theory work.
No cause you need more money
9:45 wysi
nice 2MP2TC
So Churchill can 2TC
2TC. 1TC is not possible as we can see.
Nooooooooo he’s gonna get nefted
d-d-down
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You realize you dont have to cheat right? Just buy fast track...
fast track doesn’t work in chimps. also many consider fast track cheating
Only geraldo and sauda have an actual 1tc because you could start with them in a normal game of chimps
Something lots of people do is to skip the first couple rounds till the round when they can actually afford the tower with regular income.
It doesnt matter if you cant afford Churchill. The question is if he is powerfull enough to solo, rendering any 2tc with him meanningless. And the answer is yes.
2tcs can still be challenging w him on harder maps
Something that should be pointed out,
The Corvus 1tc is actually a 1tcc, 1 tower coop chimps. Since in 4 player coop you can start with $1800.
This is not a true 1tc, but is a true 1tcc.
Churchill is not even a valid 1tcc. But still impressive none the less
Well ofc it's not a 1tc, he has 2 towers lmao.
it's been possible for years
At the start, even with 4 player co-op, Churchill is not possible for a 1TC
Man you need to stop clickbaiting. What youre doing is impressive enough, stop trying to make every video look impossible in the thumbnail just for us to realize 3 minutes in, "oh it was impossible and he just lied"
I never said it was possible? the title is a question not a statement lmao
No, you can’t