Too Short Explains Where Hip Hop 50 Went Wrong
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Too Short Longest Rapp Career in history. Still dropping albums today. Salute Todd.
Him and Ll cool J. I don't know who has more albums. I'm going to look but I think it's LL.
@@Nasir-gq1tg LL stop rapping decades ago got into hollywood, Too Shorts aint never stopped rapping. Went to Atlanta and back to cali with snoop cube and 40
@@Nasir-gq1tg Short has way more albums than LL respectively
Ice T probably has the longest active rap career, and he dropped his last album in 2020. Then you got Public Enemy. Their last studio album drop was also in 2020. Then there's the GOAT himself KRS-ONE. His last studio album was last year, and he has something cooking up now. As for most albums in history, Kool Keith takes that crown hands down.
@@marvin7533 no its too short still dropping albums since 82-2023 beyond. Ice T does movies stop rapping decades ago. Lol
Gotta love Short. He is always able to bring that no nonsense, valid point to the conversation. On another note, in 1990 I was in the military with a homie from Oakland. I told him I wanna get stationed there. He flat out told me Kemp, you aint ready for Oakland. This is the third time I have heard how wild it was out there back then, so I appreciate more confirmation on the matter. LOL
And it's still is 12:00 news body found in suite case @ lake merritt💀☣️
I agree with Too Short!! I've been saying the same thing for years. Don't skip over the pioneers, celebrate those who created the art and style.
Facts
Proof again that Hip Hop was a Black American creation! I remember Too Short selling tapes out the back of his car in Oakland. I remember Raw Dawg records as well. Need all the legends to speak up like Short!!
Did someone say that it wasn't? I'm not sure I understand your comment.
@@carlrice1774Fat Joe and a lot of Latinos and Hispanics and others are claiming they were involved in the creation of hip hop.
@brothacurbstomp Latinos WERE involved. But 1) they were American, which only reinforces the fact that hip-hop is an american creation and 2) no person has ever said that hip-hop was created without primarily black American influence.
@@carlrice1774 Respectfully I disagree with your understanding of black American music history. You are welcome to believe whatever you want. 🙏🏾
@@brothacurbstomp LOL! You have zero understanding of what I know about hip-hop music and especially black american music and all the genres black americans helped create. But I have see you have zero idea of the demographic makeup of Brooklyn in the 70s...Latinos were there. But hey,, if it makes you feel better to validate something everyone already knows, feel free.
We brought out 10K people to celebrate the 50th Anniversary of Hip Hop at the Oakland Museum of California in the month of August with a Hip Hop practitioner as the curator. We celebrated people from the 80's like Dangerous Dame, Oaktown's 357 to Digital Underground to Suga T, and more...in Oakland. All Facts. Respectfully.
What about the Members Only Crew with Kevvie Kev?
Love you Too Short Respect the Forefathers of Hip hop
Born in 77, plugged by 87..88. My Hip Hop is some East coast but mostly west! I’m from Utah and my cousin from Michigan came in with a mixtape. Back then that was an actual Memorex that had a variety of artists on it. Sir Mix-A-Lot was on there but the Boogie Boys was on there also. I gravitated more towards my region but still enjoyed the sounds form the east. UTFO put out one of my favorite albums to this day “ lethal” but the west was calling!! I want to thank all the Bay Area rappers, LA rappers, Washington state, Down south, Long Beach everyone involved with bringing generations of memories to my life!!! The East is the root but the 50 year anniversary missed a lot of very important figures from that tree….to me😁. The broad-spectrum of the game is what makes it so appealing! One mic, one Love and hopefully one day peace!!
Wrong JAMES BROWN did and sang the first rap song which makes the south the root of hip hop technically fun facts
Comments lame come on give NY its Respect for the game look west cost and every where eles didn't bust 89 so hip hop in ny was In the game 16 before south BX so get it right 50 started from the BX
Salute
Lol. That's what's up. I'm the same age. Sound like the same Memorex tape me and Big Bro played 2 death! 💯
@@tonrobert3391say Big Bro had bars too huh. Lol. 100
I'm 52 and from Queens, New York I agree with short.
born 1972 from Cleveland. We had dj's goin to NYC like 2wice a month bring records back . we was a lil new york in music & style . thank yall
Dope story. Those of my generation will remember when Suger Hill dropped. I didn't proper get into until 83. Short Dog 1 year after wax
... 1980..... Much respect to this Oakland legend.real hip hop. Am 54 an still down. Big uo Too Short. 👊🙏
yup i remember. they played it @ kiddie skate nite. & my big cuzz donald had 12 inch single . lol 1979 . Born 1972 cleveland
@@cle-chi72 Muskegon MI... I remember early 1990s me and Pops was talking and some of the same drugs that was outlawed in Michigan was outlawed in the bay at the same time
Too Short chain hard as hell! Salute to the OGz! 👑 ✊🏿
Todd is right they should have only brought the original OGs for the 50th anniversary! 💯
They were there. You weren't
@@CheeseGOATEDHe said "only," though... just them and not everybody else.
If you only bring the OG’s you not celebrating the whole 50 it should be all inclusive
@@CheeseGOATEDyou kinda lame.
@@CheeseGOATEDbe quiet 🤫
From 1980 through 88 I don't stop rapping like my first tape- Don't stop rapping
EDI I SUPPORT U AND this platform and the outlaws for life.
Excellent point. The pre-recorded history and the influences of the '70s pioneers needs more recognition.
TRUE LEGEND SALUTE TOO SHORT🤴🏻💐🍾✊🏾🎤💙💯
Too Short spit facts. Salute. (i'm a Bronx native).
We used to drive down from Sacramento to the City to buy his Trunk Cassettes.We would get a page on the beeper and call back to set up the time.Thank you!!
This interview made me SUBSCRIBE.. Life is great. I actually got a chance to hang with the both of them at Spearhead X spot off Glenwood. To add to greatness Short let me work with his group Bad Ways. Salute to y'all man. Cool channel EDI.. Peace
Appreciate the love and support 💯 more to come
Edi Mean approach the scene of the caper, like a loc... respect brother you got skillz
1st time catching this. That's what's up EDI Mean. Outlaws forever!!
Thank you! 💯
Idk how many too short interviews ive watch . Everybody ask the same questions .
Too short is that dude! I'm almost 50 now and in happy to say his concert was the only one I've ever been to. i was like 10 years old too. 🤣🤣🤣
The devils are tryna erase blacks from OUR creation... We need to take back control of our HipHop..
3:23 “Don’t Stop Rapping Biiitch”. (Short Voice). 😂😂😂
Man RadioShack started so many music careers. So instrumental. I miss RadioShack
I am surprised RadioShack is not getting their props from hip-hop folks.
I was born in 77 born and raised in Oakland and Too Short the first rapper I ever heard or seen. Them "85 Girls" tapes he was selling.
Tariq Nasheed actually is dropping a DOCUMENTARY called Mic check. Doing EXCATLY what TOO Short is talking about, paying homage to the FOUNDERS
Edi on the next level salut🫡
Dope and powerful bless up brothers
Keep em coming🎯
Yessir!! 💯
I can't wait till Tariq Nasheed's movie comes out "Microphone Check"!!!! Salute to all the regions that have contributed to this thing called HIP HOP 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
im shocked this many peeps know bout Mr Nasheed. Its niggs in my job who sleep on him.
To me Hip Hop 50 went wrong with the West Coast NOT giving ITSELF an exclusive celebration and just waiting for The East Coast ones to do it for them. That's all their fault and instead of preparing for it 5yrs ago, they chose to complain about being left out. That's bullshit. There's a lot of emcees from NY alone that even weren't included so they gotta know shit was gonna be slim for them. They are big enough to do their own and it would have been bigger than anything we could have done for them and more cats would have gotten included. No excuses fellas, YOU DROPPED YOUR OWN BALL! Don't blame the NY events. I feel Short is wrong here. First of all, Without Schoolly D's PSK record most West Coast emcees wouldn't be who they are without those training wheels for them. Short for me was corn ball when he came out. Voice, flow and subject matter. Being from The Mecca of The Art I got to see all his flaws and he was no Run DMC, LL or Rakim then. His subject matter didn't appeal to me because it wasn't competitive at all with what I was listening to. That Bitches and Hoes bullshit worked where he was from but He would have gotten booed bringing that shit to the Apollo. Every emcee in The World gotta bow to The Pioneers from NYC. There's just no question. Respect the architects. Hip Hop was already in Full Swing In NYC in 1968 and by 1986 we were already perfecting unique cadences and rhyme styles with records out and all so stop playin' and give us our due. We are The Egyptians of this. Tariq Nasheed's Doc coming soon will address all of the lies and put them to bed.
I agree. If they love Hip-Hop so much why don't each region throw their own celebration?
@@dextersfinest175 Absolutely
@@mykchek7Sybau
i feel like yall didnt listen to the clip....you just read "too short & 50 years of hip hop wasmt done right" and just assumed he was big upping his side or whining about how the east always disrespects the west coast..the man just said the forefathers from NYC from 73-80 should have been put on a pedastool and celebrated 1st with a show or special dedicated soley to the original pioneers...short never got involved in that east/west BS and always gave love to the east coast...that was some LA ****...up north we always rocked with yall,even tbru the BS going on in the mid tbru late 90s
FIRST OF ALL SCHOOLLY D IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WEST COAST RAP/ GANGSTA RAP😡THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GANGSTA RAP, WE CAN DEBATE ON THIS TOPIC FOR AS LONG AS YOU LIKE,SECOND NOBODY CARES IF YOU DIDNT LIKE HIM BUT TO SAY HE WASN’T COMPETITIVE ENOUGH IS ABSURD BECAUSE HE WAS THE ONLY ONE FROM OAKLAND RAPPING AT THAT TIME SO WHO WAS HE SUPPOSED TO COMPETE WITH OAKLAND AND LA IS TWO DIFFERENT REGIONS 6 HOURS APART, BUT ITS OKAY TO DISRESPECT WOMEN ON RECORD AS LONG AS YOU ARE FROM NEW YORK I GUESS SO YOU WON’T BOO YOUR OWN ARTISTS WHEN THEY DISRESPECT WOMEN 😂😂😡
I respect Edi for always been a level headed guy.
Every time ive seen him answer questions about Pac they were always objective and realistic.
He wasnt partial just because it was Pac.
I hope this podcast does numbers
Honestly I think hip hop started in 1967 birth from the likes of James Brown who embodied elements of hip hop .Pig meat
Markham who dropped here comes the judge the first rap album.
Then Cornbread out in Philadelphia with the graffiti then Cool Herc backed doored them in 73.Got to go back to the roots baby.
nice comment
It is hard to say when the first Rap was. White people will point to the 1930 ad "Send For Our Free Booklet"th-cam.com/video/aybHi0p_Fq0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hH__Y7aE-4xT782v and Lou Costello (of Abbott and Costello)'s"Corporal Brown" in the movie 1941 "Buck Privates" but White Entertainers in that era were known to go to the Cotton Club, the Apollo and other venues and steal from what they observed Black performers doing. In that same era, the doo wop gospel group The Jubalaires rapped in the song 'Noah' around that same time th-cam.com/video/Xij0RcW6FTA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=REjanXsRv2zw5V4z. In the '60's and '70's, Muhammad Ali used to do short raps before his fights: th-cam.com/video/LFidzk5MWwE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mhi2WGIDG7711m_W and even The Temptations joined George Kirby and Kaye Stevens on a rap on their TV Special from 1968: th-cam.com/video/G7dyvGsCyNE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=k1r4DSKNWwnB2q5Z&t=47. However, most early rappers point to The Last Poets, who started in 1969, as laying the foundation for hip hop with songs like "E Pluribus Unum" (1972): th-cam.com/video/9V4DxMGlWhU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Pfbl3dPe8rWZUMKG and Jalaluddin' (aka "Lighnin' Rod")s solo project "Hustler's Convention" (1973): th-cam.com/video/zysJyAtTQx0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=LqQSOlmHSSaWvqIA while radio griot Gary Byrd (who would later collaborate on "Black Man" and "The Crown" with Stevie Wonder) did "Every Brother Ain't A Brother" in 1970: th-cam.com/video/zysJyAtTQx0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=LqQSOlmHSSaWvqIA.
Though James Brown was heavily sampled in hip hop, it was more for the beat and his over-the-top outbursts. However, when it comes to influence on rap, the above perople I mentioned - as well as Pigmeat Markham - were the precursors to today's rap!
Real talk on the essence of HipHop being that which sparked the creative inspiration in the ghetto child that educated them to their own potential....100.
Respect to $hort representing the Fonk since day 1.....Dad wasn't in home back in the 80's, but he left his records that 6 year old Rohgish would listen to when I missed'im. 🤘🏿Stingray Davis an' nem. lol
Around 85' who the G's on the blocc bumping that got my father's tone it it?
$hort Dogg "Ronald Reagan came up to me an said "do you have the answer"..."
Kept a nigga sane during the "Crack kill a niggaz hometown" years.
I agree with Too Short. The 50 year anniversary didn't highlight how it started 50 years ago. They barely went 40 years back.
This a dope interview 🔥
And thats how WE get down in the Town. Give credit where creidt is due and dont be bull$hittin' wit it. I was there when Short was coming up. I remember literally seeing him on the back of the bus rapping & selling tapes👊🏿💯👑🏆
I Remember when I was in the Army stationed in Friedburg Germany in 1981-82 and when Big pun come out with the song I don't wanna be a player no more and with fat Joe Rapping, I Remember the Puerto Ricans would say finally we got somebody to represent us lations, How can you be 50/50 when you say finally,? Finally means that you came later
Great interview.
Great interview
Short, KRS and 2pac are the GOATS.
Why didn’t every state have there own. The ball was dropped.
That's what really happened. How Atl wanna claim they run hip hop but didn't even celebrate its 50th. All these states and cities dropped the ball. The NY celebrations invited Scarface, Short Dawg, TI, Jeezy, Cube and others and folks still complain.
@@andremiller1566hip hop isn’t 50 in Atlanta but they definitely should’ve had their own celebrations instead complaining but that’s the game blame NY
@@MrWARBUCKS24 If someone gives birth to a baby boy and at ten you adopt that child. It would be strange if when he turns 50 you say, well he ain't 50 to ME! I only had em for 40 years!
Too many states . many didnt rock alot of rap .. maybe regions. cause im from Cleveland & my region would be( East ) along with Philly & NYC.
I remember from my Job Corps days (late 80s) listening to one of his first tapes released 75 Girls and A Mac
I feel that Short's 'Freaky Tales', started all the raunchy style rappers and rap.
I'd say it's his raps, that also got the ball rolling for putting the 'explicit'
warning labels on album covers. A true pioneer indeed.
I thought Prince was the reason for the explicit sticker on music...🤔🤔🤔
Prince's song Darling Nikki is what started it, with the first album to have the sticker was from THE 2 LIVE CREW!🤗
glad he said SPOONIE "G". he never get love. i was there. born 1972 cleveland
Short said Radio Shack!!! Rocking that Realistic shit!!!
lol my daddy had them Mach ones (15" woofers - Horn tweeter & mids) they used to bang in the 1980s.
I get what Short is saying, but the original pioneers don't have the audience in this day & age to sellout arenas & stadiums. This generation doesn't even know Big & Pac's music, so how are they going to appreciate shit from the 70's?
It's about selling out arenas the 50th anniversary is about giving the creators of the culture their shine and flowers...
Exactly! Nobody would come to that show if it was free .. they did a great job the show was 8 hrs you can’t get everybody ! Plus short was there he should have bought those artist
@@troydorcy3585you definitely have no sense of business! You don’t wanna rent out yankee stadium and have only 100 people there. It did pay homage to the past and present.
@@Ghostaredead you dudes are some of the lamest people on the planet....the bet awards will be that regardless.... Bringing out pioneers as part of the program wouldn't hurt a thing..They just have an agenda to push and bringing out the true creators of Hip Hop distroys their narrative that a lie tino created any part of Hip Hop
Tupac and The Outlaws❤
OG E.D.I. MEAN#1
OG TOO SHORT#1
He definitely should've been in the top 5
why?
@@branchmediagroup8122IF YOU DON’T KNOW THEN YOU MIGHT NEED TO SIT THIS ONE OUT
I mean you hear Short talk and he's an insightful guy. It's a shame he didn't bring that to his lyrics very often.
Weather people want to admit it or not, new york is hip hop/rap everything else is a derivative.
🙄….let’s start being HONEST. HipHop is NOT 50 years old.
I can’t believe everyone is going along with this. We too are rewriting history with lies for no reason.
MY FAVORITE RAPPER 💯💯💯
Dope...& he is right!...anybody remember that Too $hort retirement album?🤔🤣...He dnt stop Rapping..lol👍
Great Stuff!
People need to realize hip hop is regional it's cool guys we don't have to compare against one another If it's dope it's dope let it ride every city should've did it's own celebration
@Qbell790 dam that list is very nice lot of people don't know about spice 1 mad respect 👏🏾
@Qbell790 I hear you it's so many good artist from the 90s I stay listening to that Era and thanks to you I'm gonna listen to camp lo not sure if I've heard them but I will now so good lookin out
@Qbell790especially" Feeling it" that a signature sound with that beat
@@josephcrollawelch
Spice 1 schooled tupac on rappin
@cle-chi ooo I know tupac got that Oakland game from spice richie rich and E40 pacs 1 of my faves
Great information ❤
Salute to too Short and he still sounds the same he can make a classic whenever he wants and if you don't respect the pioneers you don't need to speak on hip-hop at all I'm on the east coast and I love the west they had a different style but that whole era is untouchable real Hip-hop stand up 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💯
Too short is at the point the ultimate OG
Big up too Short Dog
EDI born July me too verse made N I’m a Leo too for show I subscribed quick too short a legend .
The problem what he's saying alot of pioneers in hip hop ain't around what tunes were certain hits didn't make it, to other states and cities some how the kids got together and term it hip hop the first to rap over a record explosion, its evolution from there.Too short is one of my favorite rappers heard a tape he made in 87 or 88 when i was in the navy station in San Diego California dude named Martin Stafford pop it the tape deck.Back in Ohio I think around mid 90' I heard short blaring out a drop top shaking the ground.THE GHETTO!
I totally agree with what Todd Shaw said!
They definitely better honor the West ..my best Saturdays was watching Breakin..with Ice T ...sometimes Beat Street...😏
He said Radio Shack! Radio shack blessed many of us!
I remember Short had this mixtape with him rapping over Whodini's Friends instrumental. I use to play that tape nonstop til it wore out lol
If "Too Short" old stuff come on now, if there is a dancefloor, it still get Fire #longevity
The OG's OG. ❤
I’m a true fan pray I meet you all some day OutlawZ PAC is my Goat of rap period.
Stop complaining and have your own celebrations
Too Short is right and exact...
Why do it seem as if the dude from "Brooklyn NY" is the one running w that division narrative here? 🤦🏿♂️C'mon Son...
You definitely can't deny short dog people need to know that he is surely a legend...
E.D.I what up Doe!!! Did you gray out ur hair in rememberance 2 Shock G ?(R.I.P ) SHOCK G!!! O yeah it's good to see you. Out Laws Legend E.D.I
1st time I heard Short Dawg was summer either 83 or 84. I was dam, you can say shit like this? That moment changed my life. Every city or region should have their own celebrations to go along with the 50 year celebration. Show love to their originators.
👑D.O.P.E👑
When’s the full episode droppin?
Outlawz for life
Factz 👍
All the old school rappers got podcast now. I ain't mad at it. Just getting a little oversaturated
Corporate small hats ruined it.
Get Kastro on here 😤
NICE... Awesome interview. Pretty sure, 2Pac would be very proud seeing this, watching the ones he has taken under his wing following the example he has always set, and making multiple moves instead of just sitting around, and becoming forgotten of 👍🏾👍🏾
number #1 still going strong. $hort Dog in the HOUSE!!!
Short Dawg wit the wisdom!
Damn edi got a podcast! 😂
BG Knockout need to take notes on how to ask questions
The 50th bet show felt like folk was still trying to get over what happened at the source awards years ago. 🤨
🫡 To Too Short, I agree
2PAC⭐️
Legendary!
Too short was also one of the people who destroyed hip hop as well.
They was celebrating 50 years of hip hop in a whole lol not divided and split up is a good thing.....that what wrong with hip hop now cause it CATEGORY and that what start the West Coast east Coast war in the 90,s - cause hip hop was not on one rhythm or one 1 accord like pop rock county music lol all they artists build up they music house together and not complain about who did what they just enjoy the every celebration years of it 😂🔥🎯🤣👑💯💯💯💯
Thats Hip Hop ... Short was respected all over the USA
When people say that, ahh ohhh you too old to be rapping at 40 I laugh. When you good at something you should stop!?!?! Why don't they say that in Rock/Metal/Jazz/R&B we the only Genera where the Idea exists but I get it now now being in the last 10 or so years! CUT off the Knowledge of the elder statesmen from the baby's, they know how to keep it tied down to the message they want out there so they have to push this agenda to get the Vanguard out of the art form. Glad we got OG's Like Short Like Cube E-40 Nas Jay Snoop The Infamous ICE T Busta Dr Dre that say FOH with that Keep holding it down!
The microphone check documentary is going to put all that to bed.
He right but if they all had stories then they should of did there own tribute for own region🤷🏾♂️✊🏿✊🏿
I thought one nation album they did few years ago was freaking awesome!!!!! Super under-rated album that nobody really heard.
I'm a Biggie fan but Short I respect to da fullest...