Yes they certainly have their flaws but still great to watch and for me the best book on the subject is Saul David's....Zulu on par with his..The Indian Mutiny.
Not unpopular with me buddy. Great films, even given the historical inaccuracies, I think they get the "FEEL" right. I mean, neither of them attempt to portray the British aggression in a positive light.
Not unpopular with me either. A tremendous history and the British Empire is vilified unfairly. The Empire brought great ideas, technologies and medical advances to the world. No nation is without warts.
@@lorenrogers9269 Gotta disagree there. Imagine how you'd feel if you were amaZulu in 1879. It's like the USA telling us we have to have a Starbucks on every street corner ...oh, hang on, they did that.
Neve mind the "trendy lefty's" making their opinion known, it was a period of time in the history's of GB, south Africa, and a period of great glory for the Zulu nation and is remembered by historians for what it is, a period of history, no matter who was in the right or not. Remember opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one
I ordered one of Cam's books via your link. One of my ancetors was in the Frontier Light Horse under Buller at the battles of Hlobane, Kambuli and Ulundi. We are not sure how he came to be in South Africa, (he had been in India as a Captain in the 7th Hussars then the 9th Lancers and was at the relief of the Seige at Lucknow) but he was, for a while, the commissioner of Waterberg and was imprisoned by the Boers in 1880 in the first Boer war, (who auctioned of all his goods).
The Zulu's had English speaking warriors, taunting before the battles shouting, "We are the men of Islandlwana." Knowimg what happened there must have been terrifying. Brave men on both sides. Thanks for sharing mate.
I can imagine how scary it must be to patrol on horseback in that terrain. There were no roads in Zululand at that stage and you'd be amazed how fleet footed the fit barefooted Zulu are. They could quite easily catch a man on horseback. You can forget about ever catching them on foot. By the time you reach the summit you'll find them on the next koppie already. Laughing at you. If it were not for helicopters we would never have been able to arrest even one of them.
Thank you for covering this episode on the activity of Colonel Wood's column , most accounts only focus on Rorke's Drift and Isandlawana , the Frontier Light horse were behaving like classic light cavalry and in some accounts in the final pursuit they rode after and stabbed the fleeing Zulus. Also the pictures of the pass down which the cavalry had to retreat down is spectacular. I have read about the retreat but to see the descent area in colour is quite chilling. Great job. Any idea if the Frontier light horse was equipped with Martini Henry carbines or Swineburne Henry's?
Mounted Zulu senior commanders should be seen as special forces, weird that Chelmsford didn't do more recon based on reports of Zulus on horses prior to Isandlwana.
LRDG the, 1nzsas through out the south east Asia the new Zealand mounted rifles brigade through out ww1 in the middle East and the kiwis in the Boer war starting to see a trend here lol 🇳🇿🇳🇿🇳🇿
The battle of Hlobane and the follow up at Kambula has always been my favourite part of the campaign and isn't very well covered here on YT, so thank you! Buller was a critical presence in SA, makes me ill that his statue in Exeter caused controversy. Still not getting alerts to your video's btw, only through your newsletter👍
Hi Steve. Glad you liked it. I still hope to visit Hlobane and make a video there eventually. That’s a shame about the alerts…I do wonder if military history is suppressed by the TH-cam algorithm sometimes 😤
@Coll Maxwell Actually I should have said For Valour ..... when it was suggested to Queen Vic. the medal was for bravery she said `all my soldiers are brave`. i admit I don`t know enough about Buller and Wood`s actions to comment on the mistakes you mentioned. But I don`t think that excludes their bravery under fire earning medals.
Would you class the 19thC Rifles or Rockets as Special Forces, in that they used new weapons not the ones everyone else used? Maybe even the Shrapnel only the British used in the early 1900s, albeit used by traditional artillery.
But don't forget not all the column were present at Isandlwana - a large force still remained, though admittedly they were now in no way capable of any sort of sustained operations.
@@redcoathistory First of all I thank you for all the great content that you upload. It's great!!! However, I still disagree with the term "a mauling" Those present at the battle were annihilated, regardless of the fact that other forces were present elsewhere. I think we should agree to disagree. Regards
@@welchman9390 Didn't Chris refer to the column itself tho? I think Chelmsford took more redcoats with him, than the number that remained in camp that day. Some say it could have been as little as 350-400 white soldiers. But if you're referring to the camp, I agree it was totally annihilated
@@silasrocco Hi. I'm not detracting from what Chris said in reply at all. I've too much regard for ALL the content he's uploaded! I'm just making the observation that the battle it's self was a complete trouncing!
@@welchman9390 I agree with you...but he was on about the column, which wasn't trounced/annihilated as most of it wasn't at Isandlwana. You could say it took...ummm a mauling 🤔🤣
Congrats on your tour guide appointment... the only drawback might be that you know too much, and the guests might just have to camp out for the night lol
Big hello from Northern Ireland (UK). I have been dipping into your channel from your battlefield talks on the Anglo Zulu Wars. I have been fascinated by c19 African History from watching the film 'Zulu' with my dad. I appreciate your professional style and the effort you put into your channel. I think you should be on the Sky's History Channel or on British History programs on TV. It is really refreshing when someone does it well! Have you served in the British Army, I usually am good at spotting former service members. Keep up the great work!
Very interesting and enlightening, thank you... My Great Grandfather served with the Frontier Light Horse, 1877-79, and was in action that day on Hlobane and the following day at Khambula. John, Durban, South Africa
Super interesting! Everyone thinks of Special Forces as a modern invention from WW2 on, but they have been used throughout history. Regards from Canada 🇨🇦
This is the first time I've heard of Redvers Buller being able to understand anything. If memory serves, he was at Gallipoli, where he understood nothing. Can't reference this, (Documents are at my GF), so take this as just an informed opinion. CORRECTION: Buller was not at Gallipoli, my bad, but in the Boar War, where he didn't understand very much either. (And thank you for RMH for correcting my mistake!)
@@redcoathistory That's IT. I do tend to get that war and the Dardanelles mixed up, (probably because of the shear amount of "General Melchet-ness" that took place in both. Thank you for putting me right! It wasn't Spion Kop, was it?
@Coll Maxwell Nonsense! He was the most deserving imo, a real in the thick of it hero. His men loved him which would not be the case if he'd have been getting more of them killed?
Personally, the Frontier Light Horse remind me, irresistibly, of what we (U.S. Army) used during Vietnam. The Long Range Reconnaissance Groups (LRRP) did similar work during that war. But you’re correct also Chris, FLH also mirrored SAS and the British Desert Rats during WWII. Brave men all. Nice video.
Francis Marion c. 1732 - February 27, 1795, also known as the Swamp Fox, was a military officer who served in the American Revolutionary War (1775-1783). Acting with the Continental Army and South Carolina militia commissions, he was a persistent adversary of the British in their occupation of South Carolina and Charleston in 1780 and 1781, even after the Continental Army was driven out of the state in the Battle of Camden. Marion never commanded a large army or led a major battle. He used irregular methods of warfare and is considered one of the fathers of modern guerrilla warfare and maneuver warfare and is credited further explanation needed in the lineage of U.S. Army Rangers and the 75th Ranger Regiment.
He might be credited as such in American military literature but not anyone elses. He also wasn't exactly the most savory of characters. Kind of the total opposite of the fictional character Mel Gibson portrays in The Patriot. Indeed, until Banastre Tarleton made a complete cock up he enjoyed a similar amount of success hampering the efforts of rebel militias (etc) but was unfairly maligned and demonised for the sake of propaganda.
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Semi-obsessed with this era of British history. Unpopular opinion but I also love Zulu and Zulu Dawn regardless of their flaws.
Yes they certainly have their flaws but still great to watch and for me the best book on the subject is Saul David's....Zulu on par with his..The Indian Mutiny.
Not unpopular with me buddy. Great films, even given the historical inaccuracies, I think they get the "FEEL" right. I mean, neither of them attempt to portray the British aggression in a positive light.
Not unpopular with me either. A tremendous history and the British Empire is vilified unfairly. The Empire brought great ideas, technologies and medical advances to the world. No nation is without warts.
@@lorenrogers9269 Gotta disagree there. Imagine how you'd feel if you were amaZulu in 1879. It's like the USA telling us we have to have a Starbucks on every street corner ...oh, hang on, they did that.
Neve mind the "trendy lefty's" making their opinion known, it was a period of time in the history's of GB, south Africa, and a period of great glory for the Zulu nation and is remembered by historians for what it is, a period of history, no matter who was in the right or not. Remember opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one
I ordered one of Cam's books via your link. One of my ancetors was in the Frontier Light Horse under Buller at the battles of Hlobane, Kambuli and Ulundi. We are not sure how he came to be in South Africa, (he had been in India as a Captain in the 7th Hussars then the 9th Lancers and was at the relief of the Seige at Lucknow) but he was, for a while, the commissioner of Waterberg and was imprisoned by the Boers in 1880 in the first Boer war, (who auctioned of all his goods).
The Zulu's had English speaking warriors, taunting before the battles shouting, "We are the men of Islandlwana." Knowimg what happened there must have been terrifying. Brave men on both sides. Thanks for sharing mate.
Cheers mate, glad you enjoyed it.
Never heard of this unit before, thanks for sharing.
Hi Chris, really enjoyed this episode. Must buy this book!
I can imagine how scary it must be to patrol on horseback in that terrain.
There were no roads in Zululand at that stage and you'd be amazed how fleet footed the fit barefooted Zulu are. They could quite easily catch a man on horseback.
You can forget about ever catching them on foot. By the time you reach the summit you'll find them on the next koppie already. Laughing at you.
If it were not for helicopters we would never have been able to arrest even one of them.
Thank you for covering this episode on the activity of Colonel Wood's column , most accounts only focus on Rorke's Drift and Isandlawana , the Frontier Light horse were behaving like classic light cavalry and in some accounts in the final pursuit they rode after and stabbed the fleeing Zulus.
Also the pictures of the pass down which the cavalry had to retreat down is spectacular. I have read about the retreat but to see the descent area in colour is quite chilling. Great job.
Any idea if the Frontier light horse was equipped with Martini Henry carbines or Swineburne Henry's?
Another good read is the “Washing of the Spears” by Daniel Morris. Has an excellent chapter on Hlobane
"whose chucking those bladdy spears"
A super doco. Cheers from Qld, Australia!!!
Mounted Zulu senior commanders should be seen as special forces, weird that Chelmsford didn't do more recon based on reports of Zulus on horses prior to Isandlwana.
Mr. Simson where did the steel and forging for all the Ikiwa come from?
LRDG the, 1nzsas through out the south east Asia the new Zealand mounted rifles brigade through out ww1 in the middle East and the kiwis in the Boer war starting to see a trend here lol 🇳🇿🇳🇿🇳🇿
May I recommend a rather interesting book called "running the gauntlet " by George (chops)mossop .
What an excellent film! Many thanks you you both for sharing your knowledge and expertise. Fascinating.
Australia had/has the Light Horse
The battle of Hlobane and the follow up at Kambula has always been my favourite part of the campaign and isn't very well covered here on YT, so thank you! Buller was a critical presence in SA, makes me ill that his statue in Exeter caused controversy. Still not getting alerts to your video's btw, only through your newsletter👍
Hi Steve. Glad you liked it. I still hope to visit Hlobane and make a video there eventually. That’s a shame about the alerts…I do wonder if military history is suppressed by the TH-cam algorithm sometimes 😤
@@redcoathistory Thanks for the reply Chris, a video from Hlobane would be most excellent!
Thanks for enlightening me. Hadn't heard of them before. Take care- Paul
Cheers, paul
Every time they fuck up and get routed by overwhelming forces, the medals get handed out. Up the FLH.
@Coll Maxwell Bravery
@Coll Maxwell Actually I should have said For Valour ..... when it was suggested to Queen Vic. the medal was for bravery she said `all my soldiers are brave`.
i admit I don`t know enough about Buller and Wood`s actions to comment on the mistakes you mentioned. But I don`t think that excludes their bravery under fire earning medals.
Do a programme on the boer commando fighting the zulu.
I have.
Would you class the 19thC Rifles or Rockets as Special Forces, in that they used new weapons not the ones everyone else used? Maybe even the Shrapnel only the British used in the early 1900s, albeit used by traditional artillery.
10.55 badly mauled! Typical understatement of a virtual annihilation
But don't forget not all the column were present at Isandlwana - a large force still remained, though admittedly they were now in no way capable of any sort of sustained operations.
@@redcoathistory First of all I thank you for all the great content that you upload. It's great!!! However, I still disagree with the term "a mauling" Those present at the battle were annihilated, regardless of the fact that other forces were present elsewhere. I think we should agree to disagree. Regards
@@welchman9390 Didn't Chris refer to the column itself tho? I think Chelmsford took more redcoats with him, than the number that remained in camp that day. Some say it could have been as little as 350-400 white soldiers. But if you're referring to the camp, I agree it was totally annihilated
@@silasrocco Hi. I'm not detracting from what Chris said in reply at all. I've too much regard for ALL the content he's uploaded! I'm just making the observation that the battle it's self was a complete trouncing!
@@welchman9390 I agree with you...but he was on about the column, which wasn't trounced/annihilated as most of it wasn't at Isandlwana. You could say it took...ummm a mauling 🤔🤣
Congrats on your tour guide appointment... the only drawback might be that you know too much, and the guests might just have to camp out for the night lol
Big hello from Northern Ireland (UK). I have been dipping into your channel from your battlefield talks on the Anglo Zulu Wars. I have been fascinated by c19 African History from watching the film 'Zulu' with my dad.
I appreciate your professional style and the effort you put into your channel. I think you should be on the Sky's History Channel or on British History programs on TV. It is really refreshing when someone does it well!
Have you served in the British Army, I usually am good at spotting former service members. Keep up the great work!
Thanks a lot - I’m really glad that you are enjoying the channel. Feedback like this always cheers me up and makes the effort worthwhile 👍🏼
Fantastic episode, really enjoyed it - going from strength to strength every week, been listening since near start.
Thanks mate - I’m really glad that you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching 👍🏼
3:10. Henry Martinis, sounds like a posh drink. Martini Henry sounds like a potent rifle
This has to be one of the best channels on YT.
Very interesting and enlightening, thank you... My Great Grandfather served with the Frontier Light Horse, 1877-79, and was in action that day on Hlobane and the following day at Khambula. John, Durban, South Africa
Another good one!
Congratulations on getting that tour guide job ! To be honest I knew you would get it ! It had your name on my friend 👍
Thanks for that!
A fascinating discussion, the nearest thing to actually being there.
Thanks for making this video, I have an major interest in mounted warfare.
If I ever get the opportunity, I would jump at a Zululand tour with you.
Fantastic. Hopefully it will happen one day!
Zulus sah,fousands of ‘em.
Brilliant!
Super interesting! Everyone thinks of Special Forces as a modern invention from WW2 on, but they have been used throughout history. Regards from Canada 🇨🇦
Great info.
Knowlton's Rangers from 1776 would be the first special forces associated with the USA, formed by a once red coat George Washington.
What about Major Robert Rogers and his Rangers? Dating from the French-Indian War, aka the Seven Years War.
@@johnyoung663 I anticipated a verbal flanking, which is why I wrote USA instead of North American british colonies.
This is the first time I've heard of Redvers Buller being able to understand anything. If memory serves, he was at Gallipoli, where he understood nothing. Can't reference this, (Documents are at my GF), so take this as just an informed opinion. CORRECTION: Buller was not at Gallipoli, my bad, but in the Boar War, where he didn't understand very much either. (And thank you for RMH for correcting my mistake!)
He wasn’t at Gallipoli but he did make a hash of the 2nd Anglo-Boer war.
@@redcoathistory That's
IT. I do tend to get that war and the Dardanelles mixed up, (probably because of the shear amount of "General Melchet-ness" that took place in both. Thank you for putting me right! It wasn't Spion Kop, was it?
@Coll Maxwell Nonsense! He was the most deserving imo, a real in the thick of it hero. His men loved him which would not be the case if he'd have been getting more of them killed?
Martini-Henry not Henry -Martini!
Personally, the Frontier Light Horse remind me, irresistibly, of what we (U.S. Army) used during Vietnam. The Long Range Reconnaissance Groups (LRRP) did similar work during that war. But you’re correct also Chris, FLH also mirrored SAS and the British Desert Rats during WWII. Brave men all. Nice video.
We had them in WWII, called long range desert groupLRDG
Francis Marion c. 1732 - February 27, 1795, also known as the Swamp Fox, was a military officer who served in the American Revolutionary War (1775-1783). Acting with the Continental Army and South Carolina militia commissions, he was a persistent adversary of the British in their occupation of South Carolina and Charleston in 1780 and 1781, even after the Continental Army was driven out of the state in the Battle of Camden. Marion never commanded a large army or led a major battle. He used irregular methods of warfare and is considered one of the fathers of modern guerrilla warfare and maneuver warfare and is credited further explanation needed in the lineage of U.S. Army Rangers and the 75th Ranger Regiment.
He might be credited as such in American military literature but not anyone elses. He also wasn't exactly the most savory of characters. Kind of the total opposite of the fictional character Mel Gibson portrays in The Patriot. Indeed, until Banastre Tarleton made a complete cock up he enjoyed a similar amount of success hampering the efforts of rebel militias (etc) but was unfairly maligned and demonised for the sake of propaganda.
Surely Major Robert Rogers was responsible for introducing ranger tactics in North America.
Boring. Need better presentation