*BREAKING NEWS, Attention John Waters @Afterburn Podcast* _"Sikorsky UH-60 Black, Sea, Jay, or PaveHawk Military helicopter collides with American Airlines regional jet flight 5342. Airplane crashes into Potomac River near DC’s Reagan National Airport, grounding all flights"_ . Updated Jan. 29, 2025, 10:02 p.m. ET
@@AfterburnPodcast 🎯 I clicked on your link, read the article, and tried to “respond” but the site wanted me to “sign in.” Instead, I’m doing a copy & paste…hope that’s OK. 🎯 Nice article. I found a grammatical error in one of your sentences, so I thought you might like to know. (I graduated from Carl Ben Eielson High School in ‘73 and “being a stickler for detail” was pounded into our heads!) “The SIB is led by a board president and comprised of excerpts from all fields that might apply to the mishap: air traffic control, maintenance, a pilot, engineers, meteorologists, aircrew flight equipment, etc.” (experts NOT excerpts)
Lol it's always funny to me that they need to make official statements to the public saying the aircraft received significant damage when the video shows it literally exploding.
the funniest one i ever saw was a clip from the BBC in the 80's. The RAF had lost a harrier in another country the BBC reporter asked RAF official if the plane had been destroyed. The reply was something like "The investigation is still on going, full assessment of the extent of the damage will be conducted once the aft section is retrieved from the river"
@@H4rry82 In the US military this is a Class A Mishap (Results in Loss of Life or Complete Airframe Loss). If you want Cat 5 you better start studying hurricanes. haha
A little different process than back in the day. My friend’s father was Offut back in the SAC days. He got called to the control tower to fix something, and while he was on his back under the counter working on the wiring there was a crash. Of course, with the excitement he got up and looked, but then went back to work. A few minutes later some one kicks his boot, so he sits up and it’s General Lemay himself! “Whatcha see kid?” “Nothing sir, I was under here when it happened.”
I am British, worked with a US Navy pilot who flew Phantoms. He was on a mission in Vietnam when a surface to air missile went straight between him and his copilot. He told me that the next thing he remembered was waking up in a hospital with someone holding a clipboard under his nose asking him to sign for the loss of his aircraft.
My dad bailed out of his aircraft and proudly wore his Catipilar Club pin for many years and ultimately was buried with it. The Catipliar Club is for anyone that uses a parachute to escape a crashing aircraft.
@@luckyguy600 My dad's aircraft was a Halifax Bomber! He was the only survivor and landed in Germany-occupied Netherlands and evaded capure for the three months he was with the resistance and got back to England safely.
12 Crashes in 7 years - Plus One Japanese - One UK F-35 - F-35 Lightning II fighter jet's Pratt & Whitney F135 engines have experienced several problems. Harmonic resonance: A vibration that can cause the fuel tube to fracture Underpowered cooling system: The cooling system is unable to handle the additional electronics and sensor improvements
@JeanBatiste5158 What's the mishap rate per 100,000 flight hours for the Rafael? We've lost F-35's, but there's a lot more of them out there and a lot more flight hours across the fleet. That and some of the losses have genuinely nothing to do with the plane. The lost Brit F-35 was because a maintainer failed to secure an intake cover on a parked fighter and it got ingested by the plane on takeoff. Japan's crashed A was due to spacial disorientation of the pilot in a low-light exercise over the Pacific.
If LM gets their way, then regardless of aircraft malfunctions, the pilot will be blamed … just like happened in Carolina when power shut down the cockpit instruments and displays
Preliminary reports are not worth the paper they are written on and just fuel mis-information, conspiracy theories. Let’s wait until the report comes out.
Sounded like the engine was running up until… it wasn’t. Depending on how it’s lift factor I could see adding some extra altitude until it was too much. 🤷🏻♂️
Maybe it started malfunctioning and was rolling when the pilot ejected...he could have ejected toward the grown or beneath the plane...i was wondering the same thing as i was watching the video...the pilots statement and also the other aircraft pilot will give some insight to all of this:)
I sat on a couple of investigation boards in my time in the Air Force and this one will be easier than most. The aircraft fell at a fairly low speed and that contained the debris field although the post crash fire destroyed a lot. The big thing is that the pilot safely ejected and is thankfully alive to tell the story of what happened. The video will be a help too. I had retired by the time the F-35 came into service and I don't know if there is any type of FDR on board like the rudimentary one that is on the F-16 that leaves the aircraft with the ejection seat.
Why? So we can watch A-10s get blotted from the sky trying to deliver ordinance at 500ff over a battlefield where the enemy has even basic air defense systems / manpads? CAS is primarily conducted with precision guided weapons that can be dropped as accurately from 35,000ft as 350. Not every war is Afghanistan where the enemy lacks ANY A/D
I'm an Egress guy (Classic and Super Hornets), I recall 16-20g as the number, not fun, but also that's a lot different to 30-40g from the old days. I don't have a lot of knowledge on Fat Amy's seat, but generally newer seats have been fewer G's upon exit each time a new seat model is developed
just came to this video to shed some light. i have a buddy who developed a jammer specifically for the F35. it was shipped not too long ago to that exact same air base and after this crash his boss was called into a meeting because "the jammer apparently works too well". im guessing this isnt a coincidence
A jammer won’t cause an aircraft to stop flying. That jet fell practically straight down keening it stop all forward momentum and lost lift. Jammers stop radars, radios, etc from working.
🎯 2 questions: How does a pilot end up UNDER his falling aircraft…unless he was “inverted” when ejection occurred? I grew up on Eielson in the 60’s & 70’s and the runway is 2 miles long. How does a jet coming in for a landing, landing gear down; fall out of the sky in the middle of the runway? (That KC-135 wasn’t at either end of the runway; it’s pretty much in the middle.) Also, the parachute is falling straight down…and the F-35 is falling straight down…so was this the version of aircraft with vertical takeoff and landing capabilities?!?
Did you fly the block 60 Falcon, if so was your rudder pedals slightly farther apart than previous versions? Just wondering because I was the design engineer that completed the production change on the block 60 in 2002. Thank you for the great content.
@@hogman1315a Because you are forgetting about the speed of sound vs the speed of light. Yes, there is sound after the impact but about 1sec later, it is quiet as the sound catches up with what you're seeing. Simple physics. You might want to learn it.
@@ImpendingJoker The crash occurred on the runway..Looks like 2 to 3000 feet from the video..I know the speed of sound since i've done it..3000hrs in fighters and over 20,000 in the airlines..So the sounds end cuz the video ends..That engine was not running on that F-35 but the wingman's engine is heard. You might wanna learn that also
I'm interested in the post ejection separation and distance between aircraft and pilot. It looks like the pilot is lower than the aircraft at the beginning of the video.
Glad pilot safe. But dear god how much did that aircraft cost?. Ordinary folk have to be kept convinced of the huge expense of defence continuing to be essential.
I'd guess it was in an incline when he ejected; then it kept going up, stalled out, and fell. Out of all of the F35 ejections, I don't think there's been a single one where the pilot pointed the aircraft in a safe direction before pulling the handle lol. Not that that's always an option of course.
@@iSnazzyHDPerhaps because the ejection only occurs once the aircraft is no longer amenable to being pointed. Best wishes to the airman involved here. What a terrible day at the office.
And….the pilot gets to join the Caterpillar Club, honorable membership for all military pilots ejecting. My dad is a 2x member, and still around at 95.
'Significant aircraft damage'.....😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆Do ya thunk ? VERY, VERY happy the pilot will fly again....The COUNTRY can't afford to lose his/her training-experience.
That’s wild, and immediately makes me think of the video of the X-31’s crash. In that case, the jet’s pito tube froze and the flight computer got a bad airspeed and thought the jet was stalling. It then just started freaking out and flailing the jet around. I wonder if something similar happened here, just a mass amount of bad data getting fed into the FCS for whatever reason, leading to the loss of control and the dude punching out?
Entirely possible. I can't remember where an F-35s pitot is(doesn't much matter I suppose). I'd have hoped they would design one impermeable to icing. The airfield looked very cold too? Freak accident probably. It looked to me that it had left controlled flight. Very strange movements through the air indeed before impact.
That was expensive, and good that the pilot is ok. I'm curious what would cause loss of control like that with power? (You could hear the engine still going on the footage.) Only thing I could hazard to guess is that some sensors may have had icing, and the flight control computer spazzed out once it lost too much relevant data. (Although you'd think there could be some inertial systems as part of the cross-check for the computer to work with?)
The difference between minor and significant is defined by dollar amount. If they had a single engine Cessna that crashed and burned to ash the damage would be "minor" because the cost was lower than 250k.
In my head canon, this was the aftermath of an aerial battle between a Russian Su-35 and an American F-35. The Russians, regretting the sale of Alaska to the US decided to retake it by force. The Su-35 was part of an Russian expeditionary force and its presence was detected soon after it entered Alaskan airspace. The US military tried to shoot it down with missiles, but the crafty Ruskies had installed laser point defence systems on their Su-35. This then prompted the US military command to sortie their F-35s in an attempt to shoot down the Su-35 with cannons. However, anticipating the US response, the experienced (veteran of recent wars) Russian Commander had already installed tractor beam weaponry on their Su-35 for such a scenario. The F-35 pilot was caught offguard when their plane suddenly stalled and came to a standstill midair and decided to eject out of caution. Seeing that they had won this battle, the Russian pilot disengaged the tractor beam and allowed the now pilotless F-35 to fall to the ground. This was what happened according to my head canon, is it worthy of being Hollywood material?
Why is there 2 separate impacts? First appears to be the plane. Looks like it hits water. No idea what the second explosion is, but it looks much bigger.
I'm curious if it was wake turbulence again. Very similar situation at Hill where the aircraft tumbled due to out of control FCS being unable to handle the data from the turbulence of the forward aircraft. Wind at that time was five knots. Looking at the METAR, it seems the wind was even lower at 3 knots at the time of this accident.
Would be nice if there could be the current emergency ejection force and a lower power pickable if it is safe to do so in cases where the crafts aren't in a risk of blowing up.
Looks to me like the pilot ejected when the aircrat was inverted or sideways in knife edge flight. He is much lower than the F 35 when it falls. Scary times.
🎯 Coming in for a landing, you’re descending…low to the ground…at speed with forward momentum…NOT mile-high in the center of a 2-mile long runway…unless your intent was a VERTICAL LANDING. I thought that was Navy/Marine stuff? Maybe they were practicing some Arctic training maneuvers at an Air Force Base?!? Also, Eielson has a medical dispensary…and 25 miles away is Basset Army Hospital at Ft. Wainwright and Fairbanks has a hospital. Which facility treated the pilot could be an indication as to the seriousness of his injuries. Then there’s Elmendorf A.F.B. in Anchorage…
Was that a B model? There is one frame where it looks like the exhaust might be pivoted down, but the inlet for the fan is not up. I wonder if he was attempting a vertical landing, he fell from an odd location for being on final approach to a conventional landing.
30 year Viper crew chief, yes, A/C is a total write off, first thing we maintainers ask - 'did the driver get out'? We'll figure out and correct what went wrong, don't want to bury our driver.
What im confused about is you can see the parachute and the plane spinning out of control higher than the parachute? Almost like they were in hover mode..sudden issue..ejection...plane still hovering then falls..
It appears to me the aircraft went into the vertical and flew straight up either before or after the pilot ejected as the aircraft is falling straight down with no or little forward momentum and the pilot has been out for some time.
What happens next? Safety Investigation and Accident Investigation Board process: theafterburnpodcast.beehiiv.com/p/f-35-crash-now-what
Just heard, F35 has multiple design flaws that make it too complicated to control and expensive.
It’s ok. One engine plane has much more possibilities to cause crash because no other choice.
*BREAKING NEWS, Attention John Waters @Afterburn Podcast* _"Sikorsky UH-60 Black, Sea, Jay, or PaveHawk Military helicopter collides with American Airlines regional jet flight 5342. Airplane crashes into Potomac River near DC’s Reagan National Airport, grounding all flights"_ .
Updated Jan. 29, 2025, 10:02 p.m. ET
@@AfterburnPodcast 🎯 I clicked on your link, read the article, and tried to “respond” but the site wanted me to “sign in.” Instead, I’m doing a copy & paste…hope that’s OK.
🎯 Nice article. I found a grammatical error in one of your sentences, so I thought you might like to know. (I graduated from Carl Ben Eielson High School in ‘73 and “being a stickler for detail” was pounded into our heads!)
“The SIB is led by a board president and comprised of excerpts from all fields that might apply to the mishap: air traffic control, maintenance, a pilot, engineers, meteorologists, aircrew flight equipment, etc.” (experts NOT excerpts)
Government corruption for his bitcoin in the top, of course no management in the bottom.
Significant aircraft damage? That's one hell of an understatement!
Technically is not a lie :)
PAO brain in full effect. They're like deranged robots.
It will repaired in a week or two.
"The aircraft experienced a sudden case of rapid unscheduled disassembly"
It will be glued back together
Lol it's always funny to me that they need to make official statements to the public saying the aircraft received significant damage when the video shows it literally exploding.
the funniest one i ever saw was a clip from the BBC in the 80's. The RAF had lost a harrier in another country the BBC reporter asked RAF official if the plane had been destroyed.
The reply was something like "The investigation is still on going, full assessment of the extent of the damage will be conducted once the aft section is retrieved from the river"
That’s pretty significant
The wokesters in the PR department have gotten used to lying about everything
@ and arm chair experts know it all
Russian Su57 Felon can recover from a flat spin, like in Top Gun.
“Significant aircraft damage”……why are they so scared to say “damaged beyond repair” or “loss of aircraft” or “blown to smithereens”????
Taking a page from SpaceX’s book? Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly?
@fonkenfu😂😂😂😂😂l
Cat. 5 Damage (unrepairable in anytime or cost)
@@H4rry82 In the US military this is a Class A Mishap (Results in Loss of Life or Complete Airframe Loss). If you want Cat 5 you better start studying hurricanes. haha
"significant damage" is an understatement
Well, they saved the ejection seat.
My son flies one of these. Hope the pilot recovers well. It's hugely traumatic.
Thanks for his service!! Love them all for undertaking his efforts.
🫡. Please thank him for his service. 🇺🇸
ask him to switch to something safer like an F-16, F-15, F-18 or something
Change of career advisable?
Careers in AI are really “taking off” @ the moment.
Best of a speedy recovery to the Pilot who survived this ejection.
feel bad for the tarmac though...
At least he gets a Martin-Baker tie, and the opportunity to purchase the Bremont MBI watch now...
Silver linings…
😆😆😆
do they use a martin baker ejection seat on the f35?
Not a fan of Bremont watches.
@@knoxyish Yes, the model is US16E.
A little different process than back in the day. My friend’s father was Offut back in the SAC days. He got called to the control tower to fix something, and while he was on his back under the counter working on the wiring there was a crash. Of course, with the excitement he got up and looked, but then went back to work. A few minutes later some one kicks his boot, so he sits up and it’s General Lemay himself! “Whatcha see kid?” “Nothing sir, I was under here when it happened.”
I am British, worked with a US Navy pilot who flew Phantoms. He was on a mission in Vietnam when a surface to air missile went straight between him and his copilot. He told me that the next thing he remembered was waking up in a hospital with someone holding a clipboard under his nose asking him to sign for the loss of his aircraft.
My dad bailed out of his aircraft and proudly wore his Catipilar Club pin for many years and ultimately was buried with it. The Catipliar Club is for anyone that uses a parachute to escape a crashing aircraft.
…or who’s spine was compressed like an accordion because of the explosive nature of the ejection‼️
I know of such a man in Orangeville back in the mid 60's.
Navigator on Halifax Bombers.
@@luckyguy600 My dad's aircraft was a Halifax Bomber! He was the only survivor and landed in Germany-occupied Netherlands and evaded capure for the three months he was with the resistance and got back to England safely.
@@stephengarrity9702 you have a cool dad! Listening a story first hand from vets is a once in a life time exp.
Its amazing how much damage can occur when an aircraft suffers 'rapid deceleration.'
Jew 35 is shit😂😂😂
Thus reaching terminal velocity.
Thanks for your briefing. Greetings from a retired Transport Pilot (C-160, Transall) of Deutsche Luftwaffe.
What the report meant to say is: "The aircraft caused significant damage to the ground"
The ground caused a little airframe disassembly.
😂
R.U.D. SpaceX vehicle described as Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly. Sucker blew up!
Having worked in the Flight Surgeon's office. Almost all aircraft accidents happened during takeoff or landing during my career.
Often the most dangerous part
Having never worked in the flight surgeon’s office. Almost all aircraft accidents happened during takeoff or landing
Altitude is your friend.
Having flown fighters (F-4, F-16, F-18) for 20 years, I think most accidents occur during the mission in the working areas.
Now, lets try and work out how we can fly a plane without having to takeoff and land.
Lets ask Deepseek 🤔
This is what happens when an F-35A thinks it's an F-35B.
That's what happens when a F-35 thinks it's a SU-35.
@@EpistemicResponsibility4All Nah, then it would start losing parts BEFORE hitting the ground.
12 Crashes in 7 years - Plus One Japanese - One UK F-35 - F-35 Lightning II fighter jet's Pratt & Whitney F135 engines have experienced several problems. Harmonic resonance: A vibration that can cause the fuel tube to fracture Underpowered cooling system: The cooling system is unable to handle the additional electronics and sensor improvements
Fly Rafale fly safe
@JeanBatiste5158 What a surprise! The guy with a French name is promoting a French plane! Who woulda guessed?
@JeanBatiste5158 What's the mishap rate per 100,000 flight hours for the Rafael? We've lost F-35's, but there's a lot more of them out there and a lot more flight hours across the fleet.
That and some of the losses have genuinely nothing to do with the plane. The lost Brit F-35 was because a maintainer failed to secure an intake cover on a parked fighter and it got ingested by the plane on takeoff. Japan's crashed A was due to spacial disorientation of the pilot in a low-light exercise over the Pacific.
@@nobleman-swerve even us pilots hate fat amy. They wish more F22, F16, F18 and F15'ex rather than fat zmy
@@JeanBatiste5158 Cool, so what's the accident rate per 100,000 flight hours for Rafael?
F-35 used to have issues with the ejection seat. Glad they worked it out. Glad he is ok.
Scary incident. Glad the Pilot is safe and has a speedy recovery 🙏🏾
If LM gets their way, then regardless of aircraft malfunctions, the pilot will be blamed … just like happened in Carolina when power shut down the cockpit instruments and displays
When the preliminary report is, "The pilot, the pilot, the pilot," it's pretty clear what the official report will say: NOTHING.
Preliminary reports are not worth the paper they are written on and just fuel mis-information, conspiracy theories. Let’s wait until the report comes out.
Nobody mention the B-Word!!!
@@davewalkden7248"B-Word"??
the F35 is so good that it's not on the radar no more... lol
Super weird that the pilot is lower than the jet - Ejection, pitchup and stall? Not another HMS failure in VMC?
Great content as always...
Sounded like the engine was running up until… it wasn’t. Depending on how it’s lift factor I could see adding some extra altitude until it was too much. 🤷🏻♂️
Typically in single engine fighters the first bold face is ZOOM climb. So it's possible the pilot completed that step before exiting. Just a guess.
Maybe it started malfunctioning and was rolling when the pilot ejected...he could have ejected toward the grown or beneath the plane...i was wondering the same thing as i was watching the video...the pilots statement and also the other aircraft pilot will give some insight to all of this:)
he ejected inverted.
The pilot probably ejected while the aircraft was inverted causing the pilot to shoot downwards, hence being at a lower altitude than the aircraft.
F22 wasn't designed to fail. It was a 1990s baby..
How is that relevant ?
@@Bob10009 Because the F22 is awesome!
@@wbharris1031 it is, but it’s still irrelevant here 🤷🏻♂️
*Laughs in Viper!
Glad the pilot is safe, be interested to see what the AIB says
Hope the black boxes are recoverable...that impact was gnarly as hell.
Really a weird crash. Fell down like a stone, without inertial momentum, as if it were stopped midflight by some invisible wall.
Invisible wall? Sounds like the Russian's experimental Su-35 with tractor beam technology. Is the Battle of Anchorage kicking off already?
Similar accidents have already occurred.
it’s not exactly the most stable thing to fly, by pilot accounts.
F-35s don’t always have to be in a forward motion mode, remember they a VTOL. So if you are in VTOL and lose power you will probably fall like a leaf
@@hugoglenn9741 Air Force A models don't have the lift fan.
I sat on a couple of investigation boards in my time in the Air Force and this one will be easier than most. The aircraft fell at a fairly low speed and that contained the debris field although the post crash fire destroyed a lot. The big thing is that the pilot safely ejected and is thankfully alive to tell the story of what happened. The video will be a help too. I had retired by the time the F-35 came into service and I don't know if there is any type of FDR on board like the rudimentary one that is on the F-16 that leaves the aircraft with the ejection seat.
Great presentation without speculation. So many are quick to point the finger with zero evidence supporting their theory.
What crash are you talking about? It's a leaf manuver followed by a vertical landing. It fell from the sky with a ball of fire.
How is it that the pilot (parachute deployed) was below the aircraft already?
Glad the pilot is safe, I worked on a project for Martin-Baker as a software consultant, a great team of people.
That will buff right out!
significant aircraft damage what the hell it will buff
They need to strongly consider not retiring the A10 Im sure any military service member who needed help on the ground would agree
Why? So we can watch A-10s get blotted from the sky trying to deliver ordinance at 500ff over a battlefield where the enemy has even basic air defense systems / manpads?
CAS is primarily conducted with precision guided weapons that can be dropped as accurately from 35,000ft as 350. Not every war is Afghanistan where the enemy lacks ANY A/D
It'll polish out
Calling it Significant Aircraft Damage is pretty SAD.
Ah the uncontrolled rapid disassembly by force. Always hard to put it back together after that. Glad the guy is ok. 🤠👍
Significant damage??the only thing coming outta that crash is the black box
I'm an Egress guy (Classic and Super Hornets), I recall 16-20g as the number, not fun, but also that's a lot different to 30-40g from the old days. I don't have a lot of knowledge on Fat Amy's seat, but generally newer seats have been fewer G's upon exit each time a new seat model is developed
The aircraft suffered a spontaneous unscheduled disassembly.😂😂
"Your injury is not service related...."
This is really what a full bird colonel wore for a press conference? Are his hands in his pockets too?
AIRFORCE GLOVES
Flight suit worn proudly.
It's the old ah, shucks, treatment meant to normalize a total FUBAR moment.
He got the outfit from Zelensky😂
just came to this video to shed some light. i have a buddy who developed a jammer specifically for the F35. it was shipped not too long ago to that exact same air base and after this crash his boss was called into a meeting because "the jammer apparently works too well". im guessing this isnt a coincidence
A jammer won’t cause an aircraft to stop flying. That jet fell practically straight down keening it stop all forward momentum and lost lift. Jammers stop radars, radios, etc from working.
Oops 😬 it’ll buff out :) glad the pilot is ok 👌
What happens next is you’re assigned to peeling potatoes and taking out the garbage😮
So glad the pilot got out of there safely & the aircraft didn't damage anything on the ground of any significance !....other than itself.
🎯 2 questions: How does a pilot end up UNDER his falling aircraft…unless he was “inverted” when ejection occurred?
I grew up on Eielson in the 60’s & 70’s and the runway is 2 miles long. How does a jet coming in for a landing, landing gear down; fall out of the sky in the middle of the runway? (That KC-135 wasn’t at either end of the runway; it’s pretty much in the middle.)
Also, the parachute is falling straight down…and the F-35 is falling straight down…so was this the version of aircraft with vertical takeoff and landing capabilities?!?
Did you fly the block 60 Falcon, if so was your rudder pedals slightly farther apart than previous versions? Just wondering because I was the design engineer that completed the production change on the block 60 in 2002. Thank you for the great content.
"Engine running" surely that's his wingmans Jet ?
5:39…goes quite. You can still depart controlled flight with a motor that is working. Time will tell.
@@AfterburnPodcast There was engine noise after impact.. so me thinks not
@@hogman1315a Because you are forgetting about the speed of sound vs the speed of light. Yes, there is sound after the impact but about 1sec later, it is quiet as the sound catches up with what you're seeing. Simple physics. You might want to learn it.
@@ImpendingJoker The crash occurred on the runway..Looks like 2 to 3000 feet from the video..I know the speed of sound since i've done it..3000hrs in fighters and over 20,000 in the airlines..So the sounds end cuz the video ends..That engine was not running on that F-35 but the wingman's engine is heard. You might wanna learn that also
Close call, glad to hear the pilot is ok.
bro would make a good spokesperson for the state
as a former f-35 crew chief, this really hurts to see...
Nope, for me as 🇨🇵
Hearing about drag shows on Air Force bases is what hurt me.
@@elnach3240 wait until you hear about the movie theaters and golf courses....😱
"Significant Damage". Riiiiight. Gotta love AIr Force PR.
Understatement of the year so far....."aircraft suffered significant damage"....
I know whats going on. Elon Musk didint like the F35 so he hacked it😂
I'm interested in the post ejection separation and distance between aircraft and pilot. It looks like the pilot is lower than the aircraft at the beginning of the video.
Agree. Pure guess. The jet kept flying for a few extra potatoes. Looked like a close pass 😳
Glad pilot safe. But dear god how much did that aircraft cost?. Ordinary folk have to be kept convinced of the huge expense of defence continuing to be essential.
I'd guess it was in an incline when he ejected; then it kept going up, stalled out, and fell. Out of all of the F35 ejections, I don't think there's been a single one where the pilot pointed the aircraft in a safe direction before pulling the handle lol. Not that that's always an option of course.
Is he lower? Or further away making it look like he’s lower?
@@iSnazzyHDPerhaps because the ejection only occurs once the aircraft is no longer amenable to being pointed.
Best wishes to the airman involved here. What a terrible day at the office.
Are you sure it wasn't a rapid unscheduled disassembly?
And….the pilot gets to join the Caterpillar Club, honorable membership for all military pilots ejecting. My dad is a 2x member, and still around at 95.
❤
Why is the parachute considerably lower than the aircraft?
'Significant aircraft damage'.....😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆Do ya thunk ?
VERY, VERY happy the pilot will fly again....The COUNTRY can't afford to lose his/her training-experience.
That’s wild, and immediately makes me think of the video of the X-31’s crash.
In that case, the jet’s pito tube froze and the flight computer got a bad airspeed and thought the jet was stalling. It then just started freaking out and flailing the jet around.
I wonder if something similar happened here, just a mass amount of bad data getting fed into the FCS for whatever reason, leading to the loss of control and the dude punching out?
Entirely possible. I can't remember where an F-35s pitot is(doesn't much matter I suppose). I'd have hoped they would design one impermeable to icing. The airfield looked very cold too? Freak accident probably. It looked to me that it had left controlled flight. Very strange movements through the air indeed before impact.
its kinda weird, why does it look like the piolet is much lower than the plane in the video? Did he eject and the plane went up?
Was the plane in high key prior?
Hello The 35 has three different models did not specify.
That was expensive, and good that the pilot is ok. I'm curious what would cause loss of control like that with power? (You could hear the engine still going on the footage.) Only thing I could hazard to guess is that some sensors may have had icing, and the flight control computer spazzed out once it lost too much relevant data. (Although you'd think there could be some inertial systems as part of the cross-check for the computer to work with?)
VA: Not service related
“Significant damage”, it’s a total write off!
Big Brother Newspeak !!
Its like saying, His injuries are not compatible with living !!
Completely destroyed
This is why DEI hires are bad... You get unqualified pilots
Significant aircraft damage. More like Unexpected rapid disassembly.
1st question, Mr F16, jis what variant F35? A,B, or C? The VTOL varian is what appears to be on the screen.
They said F35A
Significant aircraft damage??? 😂
The difference between minor and significant is defined by dollar amount. If they had a single engine Cessna that crashed and burned to ash the damage would be "minor" because the cost was lower than 250k.
In my head canon, this was the aftermath of an aerial battle between a Russian Su-35 and an American F-35. The Russians, regretting the sale of Alaska to the US decided to retake it by force. The Su-35 was part of an Russian expeditionary force and its presence was detected soon after it entered Alaskan airspace. The US military tried to shoot it down with missiles, but the crafty Ruskies had installed laser point defence systems on their Su-35. This then prompted the US military command to sortie their F-35s in an attempt to shoot down the Su-35 with cannons. However, anticipating the US response, the experienced (veteran of recent wars) Russian Commander had already installed tractor beam weaponry on their Su-35 for such a scenario. The F-35 pilot was caught offguard when their plane suddenly stalled and came to a standstill midair and decided to eject out of caution. Seeing that they had won this battle, the Russian pilot disengaged the tractor beam and allowed the now pilotless F-35 to fall to the ground. This was what happened according to my head canon, is it worthy of being Hollywood material?
I'll bet the guy that took/posted the video is re-evaluating his life decisions right now.......
"local medical facility"... Vince would be proud.
Why is there 2 separate impacts?
First appears to be the plane. Looks like it hits water.
No idea what the second explosion is, but it looks much bigger.
I'm curious if it was wake turbulence again. Very similar situation at Hill where the aircraft tumbled due to out of control FCS being unable to handle the data from the turbulence of the forward aircraft. Wind at that time was five knots. Looking at the METAR, it seems the wind was even lower at 3 knots at the time of this accident.
How the hell did the pilot get so much lower than the jet? Usually the jets hits the ground before the pilot lands in His/her chute!
Would be nice if there could be the current emergency ejection force and a lower power pickable if it is safe to do so in cases where the crafts aren't in a risk of blowing up.
Wake turbulence like the one at Hill?
Looking at the short video clip, how is the pilot so much lower in altitude than the plane he ejected from?
It could have been the angle but it seemed as if the ejected pilot was already below the aircraft at the initial capture.
Maintainers, lol that's the first time I've heard anyone refer to the ground crew that way.
Looks to me like the pilot ejected when the aircrat was inverted or sideways in knife edge flight. He is much lower than the F 35 when it falls. Scary times.
If you listen you can hear jet engine running after aircraft is demolished so obviously either his wing man’s engine or another a/c out of the picture
Thank you...thats what I heard too.
F-35 doing its best impression of an AV-8B Harrier
Can you tell if its an A, B or C variant?
It's with the airforce so definitely F35A
It's now a D model, for destroyed. 🤣
@@Rettilos Thank you!
its the K variant !!
(kaput)
It's the "D" variant which stands for destroyed. Lmao.
Landing gear was down but it just seems to have stalled 😮
No fuel ?
🎯 Coming in for a landing, you’re descending…low to the ground…at speed with forward momentum…NOT mile-high in the center of a 2-mile long runway…unless your intent was a VERTICAL LANDING. I thought that was Navy/Marine stuff? Maybe they were practicing some Arctic training maneuvers at an Air Force Base?!? Also, Eielson has a medical dispensary…and 25 miles away is Basset Army Hospital at Ft. Wainwright and Fairbanks has a hospital. Which facility treated the pilot could be an indication as to the seriousness of his injuries. Then there’s Elmendorf A.F.B. in Anchorage…
So how did the pilot in his parachute manage to get below the air craft??
Was that a B model? There is one frame where it looks like the exhaust might be pivoted down, but the inlet for the fan is not up. I wonder if he was attempting a vertical landing, he fell from an odd location for being on final approach to a conventional landing.
30 year Viper crew chief, yes, A/C is a total write off, first thing we maintainers ask - 'did the driver get out'? We'll figure out and correct what went wrong, don't want to bury our driver.
I’m going to guess FLCS error
That thing still sounded under power when it crashed. Listen to the engine note. Stuck throttle? Could be me…
What im confused about is you can see the parachute and the plane spinning out of control higher than the parachute? Almost like they were in hover mode..sudden issue..ejection...plane still hovering then falls..
It appears to me the aircraft went into the vertical and flew straight up either before or after the pilot ejected as the aircraft is falling straight down with no or little forward momentum and the pilot has been out for some time.
How did the pilot end up beneath the aircraft he ejected from? I guess it was inverted when he pulled the handle?
Glad the pilot is safe. But maintenance is pissed because that bird is on the schedule in the morning. Going to be a long night.