The hidden traffic metric that makes cities worse

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  • @Wells306
    @Wells306 4 ปีที่แล้ว +317

    If you can believe it, Houston has been known to use LOS ratings beyond ‘F’

    • @CityBeautiful
      @CityBeautiful  4 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      Now I need to see LOS Z.

    • @yaacovdavidowitz4502
      @yaacovdavidowitz4502 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@CityBeautiful That would be New York. Traffic here sucks, try fifteen minutes to get two blocks. That's with a great subway system, pretty good bus system, and pretty good walkability.

    • @Nicholas-f5
      @Nicholas-f5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@yaacovdavidowitz4502 If one is driving vs cycling..

    • @reginabillotti
      @reginabillotti 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@yaacovdavidowitz4502
      " try fifteen minutes to get two blocks."
      That's never happened to me. How does it take 15 minutes to walk two blocks?

    • @reginabillotti
      @reginabillotti 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@peterjszerszen have yet to have that happen to me in Detroit yet.

  • @jmlinden7
    @jmlinden7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    In the US, ~90% of the apartment dwellers will have their own cars as well, so that assumption is correct. You can't solve the problem without building public transportation first like what Denver did.

    • @domesticcat1725
      @domesticcat1725 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      A lack of transit makes infill less useful (100 cars in the same block is a traffic horror), a lack of infill makes transit less useful (try walking from a culdesac to a bus stop). They go hand in hand

    • @rws91942
      @rws91942 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Kind of true, But public transit is only a part of a areas overall walkability. ( Or car dependency.)
      It's also how far people have to travel in the first place to access the things they want or need.

    • @jmlinden7
      @jmlinden7 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @rws91942 without reliable public transportation, you're not gonna convince people to give up their cars. While walking is great, there's no way to make the entire metro area within walking distance of you

    • @rws91942
      @rws91942 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jmlinden7 when other forms of transportation become more convenient than driving, people will choose the alternatives.
      Like I said, public transportation is only part of the solution, not the entire solution.
      Having to travel less will shorten people’s travel times. Building areas with mixed uses are a part of that solution as well.

    • @jmlinden7
      @jmlinden7 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rws91942 Yes but people won't go completely car free until you pass a certain threshold of convenience, and it's impossible to get past that threshold without good public transportation. Without good public transportation, people will walk for 50% of their trips and keep a car for the remaining 50%. While that reduces vehicle traffic, it doesn't reduce parking requirements.

  • @dontgetlost4078
    @dontgetlost4078 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Don't you just love when you take multiple weeks/months to binge watch an entire TH-cam channel and you get the feeling you're finally up to date?
    I'm finally at that spot! Great channel!

    • @jakeboynton
      @jakeboynton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "1 year ago" 😪

  • @Aeyekay0
    @Aeyekay0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +588

    Cities are so much nicer when you can walk or take public transit with ease

    • @K.B.Williams
      @K.B.Williams 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Depends on the person and the city. Some people like myself like to see cities in doses. For example, spend a few hours downtown, then the suburbs, then the hipster areas, then the urban areas, then the mountains, beaches, canyons etc etc. Also, not very many cities have great public transportation. Also, not every city is suitable for walking i.e. rainy, or hot and humid, or places you desire are not close. It all just depends on the city and who you are.

    • @juanpablocorreiaecheverria2857
      @juanpablocorreiaecheverria2857 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not when it rains

    • @namelessone3339
      @namelessone3339 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Only if it goes where you're going when you're going there.

    • @MilwaukeeF40C
      @MilwaukeeF40C 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am sure glad right now I can spend entire years without having to be within six feet of random schmucks I have no reason to interact with.

    • @xTheUnderscorex
      @xTheUnderscorex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@K.B.Williams The point being that those cities with terrible public transportation and destinations too spaced out to walk are bad cities because of it.

  • @iunne1113
    @iunne1113 4 ปีที่แล้ว +393

    Cities: Skylines here I come

    • @wlmsprt
      @wlmsprt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      same tbh

    • @Forlfir
      @Forlfir 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ì just started a new city so same

    • @anniehimself
      @anniehimself 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

    • @angelocortez4471
      @angelocortez4471 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      At the moment, if only we could share a screenshot here

    • @musicalhistory4392
      @musicalhistory4392 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was thinking all my cities must have "F" level of service.

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 4 ปีที่แล้ว +961

    No traffic here, everyone uses the metro and ride bikes

    • @defaultmesh
      @defaultmesh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +177

      thank you, supreme leader of democratic people's republic of korea. very cool.

    • @SquidCena
      @SquidCena 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      I heard that if you drive, you get consequences! Thanks for enforcing biking and public transportation!!

    • @sidlam1976
      @sidlam1976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      If you drive, you die

    • @notsure6187
      @notsure6187 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      In North Korea children ride on the hopes and dreams of their parents. 😢

    • @elenapopovic2527
      @elenapopovic2527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Excellent job, comrade!

  • @mukrifachri
    @mukrifachri 4 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    LOS should be used to plan a city as a whole - not to rule in or out a single development. A totally good point.
    Traffic impact studies aren't just used in the US though - apparently in the UK it's also problematic, although where the problem truly lies haven't really been uncovered to laypersons.

    • @ImranZakhaev9
      @ImranZakhaev9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I kinda disagree. If an intersection gets worse, it will deter people from driving during rush hour, so some will consider cycling, walking, or even moving out of the suburbs. If we keep trying to improve driving conditions at the expense of cycling and walking, it will only cause a greater pull toward driving.

    • @mukrifachri
      @mukrifachri 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ImranZakhaev9 Hence why you should coordinate the planning within the whole city as well. Focusing on a single intersection doesn't help much. But you need evaluation for each and every single one of them as well, in view of the greater planning.

    • @MainStreetMesa
      @MainStreetMesa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Almost any city with large areas and nodes built after 1970 is basically planned with LOS as the base standard for "balancing housing with car trips." Let me assure you, the results are very car-centric, and may have better traffic flow than older cities bulldozing Main Streets fighting for street capacity and parking lots, but it's still not pretty. And they struggle to carve out exceptions to this "balanced approach" allowing street capacity as their limiting factor to the detriment of land use efficiency or taking stock of access by proximity.

    • @laurie7689
      @laurie7689 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ImranZakhaev9 Chances are that if you are married, then you won't be moving out of the suburbs. Usually, the spouse also has a job, too, and must also commute. Frequently, the couple works in different places/cities. I've lived in suburbs for most of my life. Nearly every couple worked and they worked in different places/directions from each other.

  • @리주민
    @리주민 4 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    I rather like the cozy shopping streets in japan. No cars, and there is like 4 metres width (12 ft approx) in some.

    • @리주민
      @리주민 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@weakspirit_
      Japan can reach 40°C in the summer in some areas. The closeness could act like a shade. Wider streets could give more airflow, depending on how built, but unless lined with wide shade trees, will bake in the sun. Plus, wide streets make it dangerous to cross roads. But, to each their own.

    • @mrmaniac3
      @mrmaniac3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They're basically walkways with shop fronts, it's neat. And there's a lot more tiny residential streets. I've been looking at Japan through Google Earth to build a Minecraft map representation of Japan. I don't have much progress in the grand scheme, but I've built several buildings and roads already.

    • @jasonquigley2633
      @jasonquigley2633 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@weakspirit_ The same thing is done in Taiwan, which is also tropical (though probably cooler then Malaysia). When i compare it to the USA, it's much cooler, as most of the streets are shaded from being narrow.

    • @BlackGateofMordor
      @BlackGateofMordor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@weakspirit_ Australia actually has some shopping streets that aren't dissimilar to Japanese streets, they just aren't that common, especially in developments from the 1970s-2000s.

    • @yukko_parra
      @yukko_parra 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@weakspirit_
      in australia, we either have winter,
      that one nice season that last too short,
      and bushfire

  • @exploman6382
    @exploman6382 4 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    Hey citybeautiful, could u some day make a video on how to become a city planner and how your potential career would look like. That would be rly amazing
    Cool vid as always
    Greetings from Germany

    • @CityBeautiful
      @CityBeautiful  4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      It's old, but the content is still good. A bit US-centric (as is this whole channel, sorry!). th-cam.com/video/d8672L-MG2U/w-d-xo.html

    • @nologic909
      @nologic909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Play Cities:Skylines

    • @MainStreetMesa
      @MainStreetMesa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you're still struggling with this question, contact your local chapter of professional planners and see if they have an introduction/mentorship program.

  • @jayski9410
    @jayski9410 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I wonder how the "level of service" metric is skewed when the traffic lights are used as traffic dampers? There are 2 intersections in my neighborhood north of LAX that are set that way. This occurs at "T" intersections in what would be the thru traffic direction. When a car approaches, it always turns red, holds a car for 10 seconds then turns green - even when no other traffic is present. It's almost like the metering lights at freeway entrances.

  • @pathtobillions8070
    @pathtobillions8070 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    It's good to hear that cities are slowly moving in the right direction!

    • @Nicholas-f5
      @Nicholas-f5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Citizens and non-profits have to keep on the leaders to make it so!

  • @metrofilmer8894
    @metrofilmer8894 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Love The Great quality. As an aspiring Urban Planner, this is very informative

  • @dcseymour93
    @dcseymour93 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is actually really true. I moved 10 blocks from a place I transferred to because I preferred a roughly 13-15 walk VS the 15-30 minute drive based on traffic from my old place. The big positive was I would end up living right next to a grocery store and a bunch of shops, something I had to spend time driving or taking transit to before. It feels so much more empowering being so close to everything and not having to worry about things outside of my control sucking time out of my day.

  • @lambda6564
    @lambda6564 4 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    From what I heard, it seems that in this models every citizen has a car. This is a big contrast to Germany here. I live on the countryside and yet still not everyone owns a car, even though travel distances are longer. Puplic transportation and denser cities do wonders to traffic. The american laws to ensure parking spaces seem inflated, because onstreet parking is never considered. I still dont get why driveways are needed in suburbs, where there is enough parking space on the roads.

    • @xirom-moksum
      @xirom-moksum 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      yeah in rural areas, the norm is 1 or 2 cars per household, but in the City a lot of people don't have cars and bike ownership and ridership is much higher, and cars are also more expensive than in the US so why bother.
      Admittedly, my hometown is growing very rapidly right now and the Transit network hasn't been updated since 99 so that's why car ownership is quite high over here but most trips are still doable by bike.

    • @nninjastrike2127
      @nninjastrike2127 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@xirom-moksum What about grocery shopping? Do you just buy in small amounts daily?

    • @cvncfhjhfhdfcht8531
      @cvncfhjhfhdfcht8531 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      NNINJA STRIKE where I live, online grocery shopping is very common

    • @xirom-moksum
      @xirom-moksum 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@nninjastrike2127 well most households have cars and if they use it only once per week, it's used for shopping.
      But also yes in denser areas where people don't have to drive a long distance, they tend to buy less in bulk and buy more often. Also promotes a more healthier diet since they get more opportunities to eat fresh food.

    • @maxfeeldcomp
      @maxfeeldcomp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@nninjastrike2127 I usually buy groceries when I cycle home from University twice a week. Because of that a bag pack is always sufficient

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 4 ปีที่แล้ว +244

    Dutch Urban Planning > General American Urban Planning

    • @CityBeautiful
      @CityBeautiful  4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Sadly agree.

    • @SuperSiggiboy
      @SuperSiggiboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      Or should we call it General Motors Urban Planning?

    • @xuedi
      @xuedi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      would be interesting to see more content related to old european cities ...

    • @red2theelectricboogaloo961
      @red2theelectricboogaloo961 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      we have to copy NL

    • @red2theelectricboogaloo961
      @red2theelectricboogaloo961 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Marc T well at least we're not india

  • @1000rogueleader
    @1000rogueleader 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    You know what city doesn't use LOS? Houston! They have other ways of wringing street improvements out of developers, namely by forcing developers of large developments to request an opt out to the city's setback requirements, which usually comes with the caveat that the developer use money to make street improvements that they wouldn't have to do otherwise. The city and its planning department have no real power to force developers to do anything, and basically negotiate with the developer to get things done. By the way, you should totally make a Houston video. Houston is basically the giant asterisk to every other video you've made on planning and development.

    • @MilwaukeeF40C
      @MilwaukeeF40C 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Property owners should really be responsible for the infrastructure anyway, if they want something other than dirt.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@MilwaukeeF40C they are, through a system called taxes

    • @MilwaukeeF40C
      @MilwaukeeF40C 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Taxes are inefficient and coercive. They hide the direct costs of infrastructure and create moral hazard.

    • @mennoltvanalten7260
      @mennoltvanalten7260 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@MilwaukeeF40C That is very classist: It would lead to poor neighbourhoods getting worse infrastructure, decreasing land and home value and thus making the place even poorer. This is also the case with schools being paid by local taxes. This is a policy that would keep the poor poor and give them less and less opportunities to become more educated and richer.

    • @gfox9295
      @gfox9295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He did! He did make that Houston video. Did you enjoy it?

  • @brettpalmer8245
    @brettpalmer8245 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Love this channel man and it means even more during corona quarantine

  • @denis_dg
    @denis_dg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +415

    Build cities for humans, not car's!

    • @SquidCena
      @SquidCena 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      But I like cars!!! (Noah fence)

    • @Cheesecannon25
      @Cheesecannon25 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      That's not how plurals work
      It's cars not car's

    • @리주민
      @리주민 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Cheesecannon25 I'm still trying to figure out how autocorrect changes and to AMD all the time

    • @Cheesecannon25
      @Cheesecannon25 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@리주민 m is next to n

    • @리주민
      @리주민 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Cheesecannon25 true, but I actually watch a correctly spelled and autocorrect to AMD. Same with bills turning to Bill's automatically

  • @urmanascrewed
    @urmanascrewed 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My professor is big on VMT over LOS. Great reminder for me and helps explain it more!

  • @johnq4794
    @johnq4794 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    love your content man, thanks for breaking down planning concepts to share with the general public!

  • @jerponemyce9497
    @jerponemyce9497 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    You should do a collaboration with the BM1

    • @hyric8927
      @hyric8927 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      B1M*

    • @justinleemiller
      @justinleemiller 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please no. Nothing but mega projects. They never say how much those projects go over budget.

  • @eduardo_carvajal
    @eduardo_carvajal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I need to study, but can wait a little

  • @brendant2180
    @brendant2180 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting video, I had never heard of this type of urban planner measures before. I started watching this channel years ago while trying to find out about a new traffic circle-thingy off a major highway and have been subscribed ever since, I really appreciate the informative content your channel provides

  • @christao408
    @christao408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I appreciate that your videos explain a topic that is quite interesting, in a clear and easy-to-understand way - but without dumbing it down. Thanks!

  • @navalverma
    @navalverma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for bringing more awareness to the large positive impact city planning can have on our lives. I would love to see a video on the role technology has and can play. Examples that I can think of are data models to guide planners and policies, smart traffic management, self parking cars, self driving cars, etc

  • @anoniem9379
    @anoniem9379 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You often contrast high density neighbourhoods with suburban single family neighbourhoods. Terraced houses (row houses) can be an attractive compromise between density and individual space. In the US this type of housing seems to exist only in "historic" areas. Probably has to do with zoning. Can you do a video about that?

    • @LoneHowler
      @LoneHowler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That kind of development is called "The missing middle" because cities and developers have been ignoring mid rise, multiplexes, and row housing for quite some time. It's either apartment towers or single family homes with very little in between. My city just changed zoning to allow missing middle development in established and new neighborhoods, but unfortunately it only passed with additional minimum parking standards. In other words space for more cars

  • @phaethongr
    @phaethongr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi and thanks for another cool video. I'm a transportation engineer, done quite a lot of traffic projects. I understand the rationale in avoiding LOS for city planning, but when it comes specifically to traffic and intersection design it is essential.

    • @stevecarter8810
      @stevecarter8810 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's almost as if you need local metrics for local decisions and system metrics for system decisions

    • @phaethongr
      @phaethongr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevecarter8810 Who would've thought! :-P :-P

  • @xanderbastiaansen5579
    @xanderbastiaansen5579 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a great video, thanks! Simplified concepts to understand such a complex problem

  • @ZachAttach531
    @ZachAttach531 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    The last time I was this early, California used LOS.

    • @btnt5209
      @btnt5209 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      California is still kind of stuck on LOS. Last year I worked on a project with Cali. state govt and one of the project goals was to rewrite the guidelines on where to build schools to account for VMT, instead of LOS.

    • @blitzn00dle50
      @blitzn00dle50 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      california coming with the LOS M

  • @souravzzz
    @souravzzz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you do a video on how dense urban areas are more susceptible to spread of contagious diseases and how city planners can mitigate them?

    • @bbolin5626
      @bbolin5626 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      U Wot M8 There’s more pros than cons of dense urban areas.

    • @hostilepancakes
      @hostilepancakes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      U Wot M8
      Once-in-a-generation events like SARS-CoV-2 shouldn’t dictate how we design our cities.

  • @bbolin5626
    @bbolin5626 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Great video. SB743 shows that California is doing a few things right.

    • @karenwang313
      @karenwang313 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is California were talking about. Any bill we pass is just virtue signaling. Nothing will truly change while rents and traffic continue to skyrocket so the landowning elite continue to suck money out of everyone else.

    • @ae1ae2
      @ae1ae2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@karenwang313 Well, not every bill, but many yes. It would be wonderful if we repealed Prop 13 (the 1978 one).

  • @joedoll645
    @joedoll645 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Replacing LOS with VMT in a dense area would probably mean grid lock. But maybe that is the intent?

    • @ae1ae2
      @ae1ae2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ultimately, the streets can still be widened and so on, but now the people driving the most will be the ones most responsible to pay for it because they are causing the most traffic.

    • @innsj6369
      @innsj6369 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      People won't choose to drive if there is gridlock

  • @Wells306
    @Wells306 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What’s also tough is that the ITE Trip Generation Manual algorithms aren’t always suited for certain parts if the country. For example, gas stations in Texas are massive with upwards of 100 pumps. The trip gen manual contains many surveys taken from the northeast where anything more than 8-12 pumps is rare.

    • @MilwaukeeF40C
      @MilwaukeeF40C 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Things like this are so far from having analytical methods that there is almost no point in having a god damn design manual for everything.

  • @hasbethperez5598
    @hasbethperez5598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is amazing that there are places in TH-cam for people like us, with tastes as silly as wanting to improve your cities, when we are just regular peasants.

  • @sarcasmo57
    @sarcasmo57 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love walking to work. But an A-hole housing developer has put up a fence adding 15 mins to my commute.

    • @dylanthornsberry8778
      @dylanthornsberry8778 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A-hole city regulations caused that, not developers.

    • @MilwaukeeF40C
      @MilwaukeeF40C 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So, you were trespassing?

    • @Nicholas-f5
      @Nicholas-f5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wire cutter

    • @djdjukic
      @djdjukic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MilwaukeeF40C oh no, not the heckin property righterinos

  • @aunulimansfield3277
    @aunulimansfield3277 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the mention of Denver as a resident of Colorado who was born in Denver

  • @R.-.
    @R.-. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    To improve traffic flow on a block grid pattern, ideally you’d make some of the roads at a different level with gradient interchanges, to keep traffic flowing. If that’s not possible, they could designate certain roads for through traffic and have the traffic lights prioritise the traffic on those roads.

    • @Joesolo13
      @Joesolo13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Honestly the best thing you can do is discourage cars. Major, dense cities need to accept cars don't work in dense urban environments, and fund better buses as a baseline and improve walk ability and other options for travel.

    • @EmyrDerfel
      @EmyrDerfel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Superblocks. Intentionally make the inner junctions LOS Z.

    • @redsoxfan5240
      @redsoxfan5240 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Joesolo13 Bikes! Laws, regulations, and infrastructures need to favor and encourage bike usage.

    • @adorabell4253
      @adorabell4253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What's you're asking for is Soviet style development. Large residential blocks with schools and small shops and parkland surrounded by arterial roadways.

    • @laurie7689
      @laurie7689 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Joesolo13 Folks coming from the suburbs will still be using private transportation. City-dwellers can use the buses or walk.

  • @NeverTurnOffTheAmp
    @NeverTurnOffTheAmp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video. And it's funny how cities and city planners just seem to avoid stating the obvious fact that the use of cars in big cities is totally inefficiant and disturbing.

  • @ericsgonzalez
    @ericsgonzalez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have heard that VMT is now being used to stop some hospitality projects in the napa/sonoma counties. Opponents of hospitality projects have claimed that the environmental reports have not accounted for VMTs ... from the originating location of the tourist traveler, foreign airport to local airport etc.

    • @MilwaukeeF40C
      @MilwaukeeF40C 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      California just doesn't have property rights.

  • @gyurto
    @gyurto 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you make a series about how cities first came to be and then how they evolved, discussing smaller cities, villages and cities in different regions also?

  • @nbutler
    @nbutler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Denver points were great and reason why I moved here! Great videos

  • @davidlyon4950
    @davidlyon4950 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be interesting to explore the cost of requiring a private car as an inherent "tax" versus the cost of public transit

  • @jamescochran3413
    @jamescochran3413 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad you're still making content. Keep it up!

  • @matthewconderan1616
    @matthewconderan1616 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always awesome to see a shot of Toronto in your videos.

  • @defaultmesh
    @defaultmesh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    phantom traffic jam in action at 1:41

  • @SMATF5
    @SMATF5 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I commute from Anaheim to East-Central Los Angeles (just under 25 miles each way), and depending on the time of day, the drive can take anywhere from 40 minutes to 2 hours each way, assuming minimal construction activity and no major accidents.

  • @cookie.lover007
    @cookie.lover007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very brilliant, insightful and crucial video for better cities, thank you!

  • @pongop
    @pongop 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes! Office Space! I've been watching that over and over for weeks now -- while I work lol. You reference the best movies and shows!

  • @lindseywalsh
    @lindseywalsh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic. Thanks for explaining this so well. Gives me a lot to think about for our city.

  • @jjhatnm
    @jjhatnm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dammit. I thought this was for Cities Skylines lol.

    • @roma540
      @roma540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean, you're not THAT wrong...

  • @johanwilhelmsson1199
    @johanwilhelmsson1199 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That clip is from the (excellent) movie Office Space. Maybe it's been used in a commercial as well (I don't live in USA, so I wouldn't have seen it ), but that's the origin. Highly recommend.

    • @TheSpecialJ11
      @TheSpecialJ11 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Office Space is a great film and it just so happens to have a great PSA on the ills of commuting.

    • @CityBeautiful
      @CityBeautiful  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just meant that it seemed like Office Space was advertising walking.

    • @EmyrDerfel
      @EmyrDerfel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Falling Down is another great warning against commuting by car.

  • @yeyeTF2
    @yeyeTF2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love the way you write your scripts. so informative. :)

  • @TheKnightXavier
    @TheKnightXavier 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Thanks for informing us on the subject!

  • @lesliengo8347
    @lesliengo8347 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting information. I never knew there was something called LOS ratings. Also, great visuals. It really helped me learn and make it more interesting to watch

  • @SincerelyFromStephen
    @SincerelyFromStephen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey that’s Pittsburgh in the opening video!!

  • @Korpiloukku
    @Korpiloukku 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Did you really say one parking space for unit? I think that is the root of the problem. In Helsinki we are trying pass exceptions to the regulations that demand X amount of parking space / X amount of built floor space, this varies but is usually 1 parkin place for 100-150 m2 built residensial floor space. Instead there already have been projects without any parking space and some which parking space is dictated by the demand not the norm.

  • @mxbw
    @mxbw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video! Isn’t that Office Space at 4:54?

    • @CityBeautiful
      @CityBeautiful  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes!

    • @mxbw
      @mxbw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love watching your videos. I studied urban planning in France (American but raised in France) and currently work at the transportation authority of Nice. I sometimes weigh my options on whether or not to move to the US one day.

  • @Zenas521
    @Zenas521 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1) So the Apartment building has a greater impact on traffic. Is that good or bad impact on traffic?
    2) VMT sounds interesting.
    3) Back in the 1980s, in Missoula Montana. They had one intersection called malfunction junction. It would take you a half hour just to get through the light. But thats what you get when you try to get six roads to bisect each other at the same point.

  • @jeremyl1850
    @jeremyl1850 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Been watching your videos for awhile now and just finally noticed that's Detroit in the background at the beginning of all your videos! Any particular reason why you chose Detroit? I attend Wayne State University in the city as an Urban Studies major!

  • @karin948
    @karin948 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    sir, i just discovered your channel, and i love it. thank you

  • @AgeofTrade
    @AgeofTrade 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hi CB, i'm an urban planner myself in Sweden. I'm curious if you know the standards or the range of the standards for travels per households in the US when calculating traffic from new development in suburban areas. For suburban type development in Sweden (Jönköping) we usually go by about 6 vehicle travels per household per day.

    • @turtle-balloon
      @turtle-balloon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Martin Jan Månsson oj fan det var mycket. Kan det verkligen vara hela 6 bilresor per dag? Känns som att vi i familjen kanske använder den högst tre gånger på en dag

    • @AgeofTrade
      @AgeofTrade 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@turtle-balloon Many people comments on it being too high of a number based on their own experiences. 4,5 is the lowest number i've come across in suburban neighborhoods. You drive to work, school, sports, groceries... And you are two adults doing that.
      It is very unfortunate, because the amount of traffic will be misrepresented and perhaps be counted as too high. People that are neighbors to new developments will always worry about the increase in traffic on "their" streets, and if the in-data is wrong, it might give an over-estimation of the traffic volumes that the new development will generate.
      I would love to investigate whether the numbers are indeed misguided figures, or if they actually are on average correct.

    • @CityBeautiful
      @CityBeautiful  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hmm... Off the top of my head I want to say 9 trips per day in the US suburbs?

    • @AgeofTrade
      @AgeofTrade 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CityBeautiful With those numbers it's not hard to understand why sometimes excessive road solutions are deemed necessary. It's certainly a driving force for cul-de-sacs.

    • @리주민
      @리주민 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Americans use exclusive zoning, not mixed like most of the world. I can speak for japan and Korea- height based zoning. Not exclusive res, comm, ind for the most part
      urbankchoze.blogspot.com/2014/04/japanese-zoning.html?m=1

  • @cherubin7th
    @cherubin7th 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So much research and my government cannot even handle traffic lights on a road without intersections.

  • @michaelbruvolt4221
    @michaelbruvolt4221 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some of us like the openness and space of the suburbs to the cramped, noisy life of urban centers. Densify the cities if you want, as long as there will always be options for suburban living.

  • @leonidasxix4200
    @leonidasxix4200 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always bringing in the good info.

  • @Wells306
    @Wells306 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOS is measured by type of intersection, but also by the various HCM requirements, city requirements, street types and facilities- like curbside drop-off areas. LOS can also be greatly skewed if 1 or 2 cars are waiting a long time on the side street of a major corridor. The other issues with TIA’s can be troublesome if the scope isn’t large enough. It may miss areas either upstream and downstream from the project area.

  • @YilmazArdaSingh
    @YilmazArdaSingh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'll catch you next on Nebula.

  • @nannerz1994
    @nannerz1994 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your old Go Do Good Chicago b roll😂 thanks for the new video!

  • @muneebbasit8519
    @muneebbasit8519 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a busy intersection in my daily routine where it is normal to wait till the third green light to be able to cross it.

  • @pablogaeta3815
    @pablogaeta3815 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is an awesome video. learned a lot in less than 9 minutes. well done.

  • @JasonB808
    @JasonB808 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    He shows Tokyo’s famous Shibuya scramble. What it does not show is that there are underground passageways. What you see on the street level is just some of the pedestrians. That is how much people are in Tokyo. Underground passageways are specifically designed to ensure pedestrians and roadway traffic don’t impact each other too much.
    Many high foot traffic areas in Japan have either pedestrian bridges or underground tunnels that take you to over or under the road. There are even large underground shopping areas that have everything from cafes, clothing shops, furniture, sweets shops, and restaurants. These vast underground shopping areas also link subway stations to building and to bigger train stations.
    I doubt USA is going to make large underground walking tunnels anytime soon.

  • @Shamol
    @Shamol 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What traffic? Streets are empty.

  • @demohub
    @demohub 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job as always

  • @MSTS33
    @MSTS33 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    2:20 is it realistic though ?
    No one trying to get through even if it means blocking traffic when the lights change... 🤔😁

    • @TecrasTrash
      @TecrasTrash 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You need to keep intersections clear, that (lower) traffic on the crossing road can still get through.
      That's law in pretty much every country, but most drivers simply don't care.
      I'm used to being honked at for keeping the intersection clear
      (which increases the flow on another road, without giving up too much flow on "my road")

    • @Nicholas-f5
      @Nicholas-f5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can't legally block the box

  • @yashagrawal88
    @yashagrawal88 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good. Please make a video on the coastal road project in Mumbai !

  • @TheAkopunta23
    @TheAkopunta23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video!!!

  • @nunyabidness3075
    @nunyabidness3075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    None of this matters. I’m totally serious. The data used in the studies is so often rigged, that the outcomes have nothing to do with the metrics. I saw an office building study where they purposely ignored that all the surrounding buildings had changed from single family and small multi family to 4 story and taller apartment buildings still under construction. The guy leasing the tower had huge pull at city hall. They let the study pass through when it was obviously flawed.
    My shock was noted by the city council members staff guy who explained that there were no hard and fast rules on the studies and that whatever the engineer said was believed even though he worked for the developer and that it was well known there were engineers willing to say anything for a check.

    • @MilwaukeeF40C
      @MilwaukeeF40C 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The property owner shouldn't even have to waste time with crap like that.

    • @nunyabidness3075
      @nunyabidness3075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s only an issue for very large projects to show their isn’t unreasonable impact on other property owners. In this case, a billionaire put an office tower (15 stories maybe?) right across the street from a bunch of homes owned by millionaires and multi-millionaires. I know a lawyer who lost about million dollars valuation on his home a block away. During rush hour, he could no longer get to or leave his home from the direction of the tower. He then had to sell because his company moved its HQ. Ouch.
      So a traffic study isn’t a big deal for a project like that. Avoids lawsuits if done properly.

    • @Joesolo13
      @Joesolo13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MilwaukeeF40C Are you kidding? Cities can't be treated like rural areas. One major building change can cause gridlock for the entire surrounding area if poorly done.

    • @MilwaukeeF40C
      @MilwaukeeF40C 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nobody is entitled to any particular outcome. Individuals can adjust their behaviors when things like that are too much of a pain in the ass for them. If they put up with it, then the traffic is clearly not a big deal.

    • @nunyabidness3075
      @nunyabidness3075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bushrod Rust Johnson, It’s all fine until it happens to you, bro. There’s another project near me where a five story parking garage went up 8 feet from the property line of a row of million dollar houses.
      Seriously, even hard core libertarians understand your rights to use your property in any way you see fit ought rightly be limited by how that truly affects others. For instance, I’ve got some issues with a certain “wet market” on the other side of the planet.

  • @markhanna3643
    @markhanna3643 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome stuff

  • @samomuransky4455
    @samomuransky4455 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The biggest problem of the metric (and of the proposed solutions) is that it focuses on cars, not people. This leads to car-centric design that is focused on how to push as many vehicles as possible through the junction instead of how many people will travel through that junction and prevents more efficient solutions such as good walking and biking infrastructure or public transportation. It's forcing street designers to suppress more efficient modes of transportation in order to make space for cars, thus making the traffic worse.

  • @brendanregs
    @brendanregs 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    great explainer on LOS vs VMT!

  • @andruhon
    @andruhon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do city planners concider time of lift travel? Most of my life I was living in 10+-storey buildings and I'd say that lift queue could take tens of minuites in the rush hours. I recently moved a bit further to the townhouse and I actually spend less time to cycle to work in comparison with travel from 11th floor near. Waiting for lift, going from 11 to basement minus 3, taking bicycle up from the basement to the ground was actually taking up to 20 minutes. 20 minutes just to escape the building! Living on the floor 4 was a bit better because there was normal staircase rather than a fire stairs going down and fetching bike to the light was taking up to 5 minutes. With townhouse it's just seconds while the garage door opening.

  • @MatthewNash
    @MatthewNash 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm curious what you believe the long term effects on city/suburb planning and design our current "situation" will have, especially regarding the trends of city density vs suburban sprawl.

  • @abdullaharshadc
    @abdullaharshadc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:18 is that wendover productions?

  • @Pinuzzuo
    @Pinuzzuo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is another thing about LOS analysis that makes it an even worse metric. What city officials care the most about is LOS degradation, or when the LOS of an intersections is projected to degrade from a C to a D, or D to F due to the traffic impacts of a development. That means that an intersection with a delay of D, but almost high enough to be F, could be pushed over the edge by a small development which could trigger traffic mitigation requirements.

  • @marcelmoulin3335
    @marcelmoulin3335 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    As always, excellent! I am watching from the Netherlands where cities cater to pedestrians and cyclists. Perhaps the New Urbanism movement in the US will speed up the transition from car oriented cities and towns to sustainable, manageable cities and towns.

    • @Maxbario
      @Maxbario 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I am also living in the NL, everytime I travel to the US I see that they really need more roundabouts instead of traffic lights on every block. Roundabouts work wonders for the Netherlands.

    • @marcelmoulin3335
      @marcelmoulin3335 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Maxbario You are absolutely right, Maxim. Frankly, one now sees a proliferation of roundabouts in California, Indiana, and other states.

    • @TecrasTrash
      @TecrasTrash 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Maxbario From what I know, and please please correct me, the capacity of a roundabout is usually smaller
      than a light-controlled junction. Which means there's a range of traffic volumes where a roundabout makes sense.
      Considering the extreme amount of traffic, roundabouts might even slow down traffic even more.
      But they could contribute to overall lower traffic since less people might want to drive.
      Traffic planning is probably the worst thing that exists.

    • @LucasFernandez-fk8se
      @LucasFernandez-fk8se 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Marcel Moulin hopefully not. Bikes are a children’s toy and not a real mode of transit. You can’t commute 40-60 miles to downtown on a toy bike. Maybe a motorcycle but those are dangerous

    • @TecrasTrash
      @TecrasTrash 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@LucasFernandez-fk8se You do know that there's many, many places where people cycle all the time? Like the mentioned Netherlands.
      If you design cities in a bicycle friendly way, you'll have shorter commutes and much healthier people. And trust me, you can even go furniture shopping at IKEA with a bike. (In Amsterdam)

  • @HiltownJoe
    @HiltownJoe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Using VMT may lead to an other interesting development. Allowing small scale businesses into residential areas. Having a small supermarket in the center of a residential area, drastically reduces the VMT of the whole area, because now half of the shopping can do by foot bike or on a 3 minute car trip. Living close to a small supermarket increases your quality of life drastically. I don't need a car despite not living in the city center. I can walk to my local supermarket, post office hair dresser, school, kindergarden. All while living in a suburb with less than 3000 residents.

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Tell me about it. I've experienced Long Island and Orlando traffic, it's horrible

    • @davidszczepan5855
      @davidszczepan5855 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eh Long Island Traffic is would be worse if we did have the LIRR I have to make trips to see my family that lives in the Brooklyn and I don’t see that much traffic I mostly see traffic during Holidays but normally there isnt that much

    • @elijahculper5522
      @elijahculper5522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I live in a small town in Kansas. I can’t remember the last time I waited more than thirty seconds at a stop light. Or had to drive under the speed limit due to traffic. We’ve got our problems, but traffic isn’t one of them.

    • @MilwaukeeF40C
      @MilwaukeeF40C 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I drove around Orlando and it seemed fine.

  • @vinirsouza
    @vinirsouza 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was not an advertising about walking over driving! That was a scene from the movie Office Space!

  • @yousteenawilliam5418
    @yousteenawilliam5418 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you guys use for your intersection animation?

  • @hbarudi
    @hbarudi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This has to change nationwide not to mention just how high rent is in cities when they should otherwise make apartment buildings taller with more apartments and an increase in supply will lower that $3000/month 1 bedroom apartment price...

  • @Lildizzle420
    @Lildizzle420 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    my city is using VMT but I don't know if they grade intersections but I assume they probably do, I know development fees are used for road diets to make some areas more walk able and expanding intersections in others. over all this decreases safety in dense walkable areas but makes the side streets safer and more comfortable

  • @weldonyoung1013
    @weldonyoung1013 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    So, let me see:
    Level Of Service is right out front; Vehicle Miles Traveled is around the corner.
    Does this mean out of sight, out of mind.
    Doesn't that just show Urban Design/Traffic Planning is in its infancy !

  • @satoau1
    @satoau1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i've noticed how the difference between no traffic jam and a long traffic jam is just 2-3 seconds, and that the behavior of just one car can completely block traffic for an hour or more. would be interested if you could work out if that happening at one intersection can affect whole cities like i think it does.
    what i mean is say at a turn signal say 10 cars get thru each cycle. if 10 cars arrive each cycle then there's no jam, but if that increases by just one more to 11 cars each cycle, after 10 cycles you have a double-cycle wait for everyone, 20 minutes it's a triple-cycle wait, and those long queues take up to an hour to clear. but then say just as we reach the 10 car limit one of those cars isn't paying attention or accelerates very slowly and so only one car takes the time that it normally takes 2 cars to get thru. the 10th car has to wait a 2nd cycle, and effectively the limit is then 9 cars per cycle, not 10. then at 11 car per cycle 2 don't get thru each time instead of just 1 not getting thru, and so the jam starts earlier (peaking at 9 cars per cycle instead of later when 10 cars per cycle are coming), and lengthens much more rapidly, even though there's the same number of cars.
    basically one slow car causes the same delay as 2 or even 3 cars.

  • @ryannayr140
    @ryannayr140 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    VMT is a swing too far in the other direction, I think they should look at average commute time for everyone in the area including those in the new building.

    • @Chotibunder77
      @Chotibunder77 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ryannayr140. It might be difficult to measure the predicted change in average commute times, and same with VMT. I’m curious to see how this will be handled in the future.

    • @ryannayr140
      @ryannayr140 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Chotibunder77 IDK I'm not the one getting paid I just have a nose for bullshit.

  • @cowboyfrankspersonalvideos8869
    @cowboyfrankspersonalvideos8869 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In other words, if all else fails, manipulate the data.

  • @sterlingodeaghaidh5086
    @sterlingodeaghaidh5086 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love seeing that we are taking the steps to a better future but call me crazy if I rather would not live in an urban area. Preferably I’d rather own my own house and not have my neighbors on top of me.

  • @JustinSchroeder29
    @JustinSchroeder29 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why not use the LOS (and/or VMT) proceeds to improve mass/alternate transportation infrastructure?

  • @toma2819
    @toma2819 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So development projects in the city that have a bigger impact on the local traffic will now get built, but building fees will be transferred to developers who build in the suburbs? Sounds like a win for the city developers.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      well the point is to reduce car dependence, the old metric assumed everybody had and used a car, while the new one tries to more accurately guess how many trips will actually require one (too far, need to carry too much, etc). making one junction more busy is less of a big deal if your route only takes you through a few junctions instead of dozens over many miles, anyway.

  • @ZorenManray
    @ZorenManray 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonder if anyone else has pointed out that the scene at 4:52 isn't an advertisement but from the begining of the movie Office Space. Still a amusing commentary about the insanity of commute traffic at times though..

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      the joke is that the scene makes car commutes seem extremely unappealing, from an author who prefers walkable cities.. not that he really believes it's an advert intended to sell you on driving to work

  • @redcat10601
    @redcat10601 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn, so informative! Thank you

  • @marieslhok9536
    @marieslhok9536 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just discovered your channel and Iove it!
    Out of curiosity, maybe you answered it already somewhere down below, does the LOS metric assume beforehand that every new person who will live in that project owns a car? (It sounds like that in your explanation)
    If that's the case, but let's say a 1/3 does not, the statistics would be skwed.
    Otherwise, why not just regulate available parking space within the project planing. It seems to be desirable to reduce traffic and also possible to do your every day life with out a car in those neighborhoods. Reduce parking space will automatically attract more buyer's who don't deepend on a car so much. At least that is what I would intuitively guess. Please correct me if I wrong.