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- Everything you need to know about analog and digital levels.
With the resurgence of analog outboard gear and analog instruments, hybrid music studios have become more and more popular amongst recording engineers and musicians. Even though hybrid studios are fun, they require a constant and more importantly seamless workflow between analog and digital studio equipment.
00:00 Intro
00:29 Level Definitions
03:46 dBu vs. dBFS
05:09 Reference Levels
07:41 xFilter Setup
10:11 Outro
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Thank you for making such an informative and clear video. Extremely helpful 🤘
Great educational content!
i was confused before.... now im totally lost 😂
Outstanding video on the subject
Excelent explanation. Thank you ;)
Thank you for the video.
RME interfaces are so flexible. Great explanations here!
Thank you :)
@@RMEAudio I wanna run a hybrid set up I have a pair of ad da convertors by ssl alpha links which rme madi pcie card or madi rack unit can I buycso I can track vocal mix and have monitori g of my ssl alpha link units
Rme audio ? I own to Ssl alpha links ad da convertors I want to monitor the convertors thru total mix which madi pcie card or rackmount unit will I need and will the rme madi be compatible with Ssl alpha link convertors
@@KEYBOARDTHAWAVE your Alpha Link also has ADAT connections right? You could use RME UCX II, or Babyface Pro and use the ADAT outputs. Then you can use the SSL with Total Mix. If you ONLY have MADI connection, look at Madiface Pro or UFX.
Juste Great 👍🙏
Thank you for the very helpful and clear video! I am in the process of setting up a hybrid studio with a UFX+ and Ferrofish Pulse 16 MX (connected to the UFX+ via MADI), and plan on incorporating a lot of outboard analog hardware, so I am just at the stage of thinking about this topic. I imagine when I am connecting an analog device via the TRS inputs on the Ferrofish Pulse 16 MX I'll need to set individual input/output sensitivities for each channel in the Ferrofish Menu rather than in Total Mix FX. The Pulse 16 MX is the standard version (+20 dBu), not the +24 dBU model. Are there any additional i/o settings in Total Mix FX that I should be adjusting as well? Thank you!
Thanks !!!
i love my fireface UC. i run a tr707 in my setup and with the accent turned all the way up, the kick clips a -10 input. by running it into a +4 channel, i can get all of the internal drive the machine provides. a more moderate accent setting sounds vastly different and if it wasnt for totalmix allowing this, i would be SOL.
Thanks homie
Very useful video, I'll be returning to this. Some things still not clear though:
1. My totalmix only has dBu settings, no 'Low Gain or Hi Gain' or dBv like in this video. The inputs have only two choices - +13dBu or +19dBu. Are there settings in total mix that change the gain menus, or is this just a different version of totalmix?
2. I still don't understand whether "Low gain" refers to the signal coming in, or the amount of gain that's added. (eg.is this option chosen for 'low gain' input signals/instruments, therefore adding MORE gain in the RME, or is this option chosen for 'louder' inputs, therefore using a low gain setting in the RME)?
hallo , great video .Iwanna ask you what is the best way to conect my ucx 2 with adi pro fs r ? Thanks in advance .
I have the babyface pro (not FS) I don't see the option in total mix to switch from -10 to +4. Is there a way to get that in an update? I believe I'm on the latest. What level is the default level for the babyface pro?
I am currently using UAD 6176 preamp, Antelope Orion Studio Synergy Core interface. I am thinking of buying RME Adi-2 pro fs R black edition. But honestly, I have been searching for the information as how will it add value to my current gear?
Should the ADI sit between PC and interface? How can I utilize the DAC into my recording? Or it's just for monitoring purpose alone? Thanks.
Danke Thank's ; Frage wäre in der Zukunft zu den Monochrom / Single Farben EQ Levels es möglich im oberen Bereich (-10/15/.. bis 0 dB)eine Zusatz Farblichen Levels Variation Auswahl Software mäßig um eine Gewisse Optischen weniger Langweilig und Optisch Unterhaltsamer wäre. Bei Grün mit Gelb Rot Traditionell , Bei Grau/Weiss mit Blau und Rot , bei Rot / Orange mit Hellblau und Lila ?
Oder gar einen Old School dB Meter Look mit Halbrund Skalierungen der dB mit Doppelzeiger auf einer Achse oder 2 dB Meter obwohl der Platz ist wohl zu Gering zur Darstellung.
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Hello there. Great video. Question: can I use RME audio interfaces with an iPad Pro (USB C)? I’m looking to replace my current interface for a new and better one. I hope you can help me. Thanks 🙏 in advance.
yes as far as i know all RME usb interfaces are class-compliant, so they should work on the ipad pro.
Can you explain image at 2:14 ? Shouldnt the level of +4dbu be infact higher than -10dbv. Thanks,
Yes, I also think it's an error and should have been -10dBV left, +4dBu right
Thanks for the video. Questions : where are these settings options in the Babyface Pro FS interface (via Totalmix) ? Where are these specs in the manual (what numbers to look exactly, in case of the Babyface Pro FS manual, for example) ? What I can see (page 78) : Max. Input level +8 dBu (for Microphone). Max. input +13 dBu (for line Instrument). How can I find the reference level number(s) ?
Hey Dominique, the Babyface Pro is a little bit special:
The original Babyface usually operates in +4 dBu or -10 dBV BUT you can mimic the +19 dBu on the XLR inputs by activating PAD. Maximum input level will then be 11 dB higher (+19 dBu instead of +8 dBu). The Babyface Pro FS has +19 dBu for the XLR outputs as an option on the bottom of the device. I hope this helps!
@@RMEAudio Huge thanks. It helps a lot.
Thanku sir
:)
Is there a way to change the input and output gain settings globally? From within the TotalMix FX?
For analog gear specially for tube gears referenc level between -12 and -14dbu gives the best results..
Hey Chris, always check the manual for the best operating level and trust you ears ;)
Hello I have a question… So according to Fab DuPont pro tools HD converters are calibrated to equal 0 VU at -18 dbfs. It's very confusing to figure out What the UFX + is calibrated to?
Monitors are set to +4 and set to +4 in total mix. If that makes any difference.
I use cubase pro 12
I just want to know what avrage levels would be considered the sweet spot. For RME converters. Basically does -18 dbfs in my daw equal 0vu?
essentially when recording in what is the optimal level
-18, +4 = +22 dBu for Full Level
UFX (example): +19 dBu for Full Level. So +4 dBu, -15 dBFS would be your sweet spot
@@tcos332 I still don’t understand how you get that information? Ugh.
@@ReignDropsStudio Basically you’re dealing with headroom, as far as Peak-to-Peak amplitude of you’re wavelength.
Let’s say you want to see peak levels at -12dBFS, this would therefore be leaving 12dB of Headroom. If 0 dBFS is the highest level before clipping it would happen at a level of +24dBu, +4dBu or -20dBFS.
So 0 dBFS is essentially your DIGITAL level, +24dBu would your ANALOG. Thus, your sweet spot in this scenario would be -20dBFS SMPTE for Digital level, at +4 dBu for Analog.
Sort of make sense, or help explain it better?
@@ReignDropsStudio here’s a good way I learned just by looking at metering and more visual references. This is for the same scenario mentioned in last reply too. There’s also a page on RME’s site I found that goes into more detail that might help.
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www.rme-usa.com/analog-and-digital-audio-signal-levels.html
So to make the long story short, since i am really confused now. What is the best setting for my ableton channel and my xlr mic? To give me the most flexibility. I just wanna make sure i have this set properly. Thanks
The simplified answer is to set your interface to +4 and forget about it. Then on your interface adjust the input level of your mic so its peak level doesn't clip.
@@cornerliston The mic inputs don't have this option. The discussion in the video was about line levels using TRS.
I wish I could change the reference level on my focusrite scarlet interface
Can't find this option anywhere. HDSPe MADI & HDSPe AIO Pro. Last available drivers. Is it (again) a MacOS only feature?
You can only set the reference levels at analog inputs and outputs. MADI is a digital signal.
@@RMEAudio The same for me, I've not this option on my totalmix inputs and output, I work with an digiface usb maybe is for that ?!
@@RMEAudio my AIO Pro has analog I/O, can't do it. I can only select levels from "Hammerfall DSP Settings". Thanks for your quick reply and support.
Why not just say ....for example , at +4 dbu , O VU =1.23 volts and that wiol be -12 dbFS ....? Or...am I wrong ? 😜
How did you changed channel names at TotalMix ?
Just click the titles and overtype. Have you ever used a computer before?
My old RADAR could be set as high as +24dbu
Real nice when recording drums. +19dbu seems a bit low to me.
Very informative, and i really like RME. But hearing pops and sibilance from your mic and reading the word “decible” instead of “decibel” does not do the brand justice.
Is there a way to get more than 32 inputs via rme interfaces?
Yes, we have options that give you over 300 channels.
@@RMEAudio what interfaces do that?
This is great and all but what I want is a loopback channel that doesn't require sacrificing an input channel. The mixer is virtual. Why is this so hard.
The channels in TotalMix FX are not virtual. They are defined by the FPGA inside the interface. Hence we cannot simply add channels :)
@@RMEAudio I admit that implementing DSP in an FPGA is slightly above my pay grade. Is it a matter of insufficient processing power?
If, in theory, you had a more powerful FPGA then would the feature be possible?
My babyface (1st edition) doesn't have this option (+4 etc). My old 9632 did. Why is that?
Hey Demetris, +19dBu was introduced on the Babyface Pro FS.
I was just researching Dynacord processors and I open this video to see a P20 in the rack. So random.
There is a fault at 6:50 of the video. In Hi Gain, 0 dBFS correspond to +19 dBu!!!! and gives 15 dB!!!! headrooms?
15 dB headroom compared to studio level (+4dBu)
@@RMEAudio Ok. It’s compared to Reference Level 👍
a bit technical overcomplication for the beginner, but necessary for the rest of us
Love your gear, but the audio of your videos is terrible.
Lol the audio is fantastic MK. What are you listening on?
@@LaminarSoundOverly compressed, overly deessed, eq’d with a hammer, it‘s abysmal. But you do you.
@@EatMoreWorms Im listening on studio monitors in a treated room. I don't hear any of that. Sounds great. Curious what you think sounds good. lol
Naisss mixed voice. Clear and crispy 🙂
@@EatMoreWorms That was my impression, too. I think that they tried to achieve that “radio voice sound”, but have overdone it a bit.
i hear that ur voice is to edited, that does not sounds pro