Here in Ireland the 6013 is known as the farmer’s welding rod. Works on rusty, dirty steel in less than ideal conditions. Whereas baling twine is jokingly called “farmer’s weld” because it’s used to tie stuff up in an emergency and then forgotten about. Gates, trailer tailboards etc. You can pick up 6013 rods anywhere. Car parts places, feed supply stores, small hardware suppliers etc. Of you needed to borrow a welding rod from someone, chances are it will be a 6013 that they have. I have no idea why. Maybe it has something to do with the higher voltages in Europe. Maybe it runs better here. There’s an old joke that the difference between farmers and welder is that welders know they can’t farm properly 😂
I was taught the same thing when looking at a machine. Went to Cogan station PA to buy my first machine it was a 58 SA 200 rebuilt by a fella and the first thing I did with that after I let it run a couple minutes is take the biggest rod he had and just stick er to the pipe with all the goodies turned up and let it eat. She just let a little smoke roll and started a harmonious growl, it was beautiful haha
I haven't ever worked with a welder that had a digital readout, but your suggestion about setting the amps makes sense. I think the amp setting has a lot to do with if you're welding with AC or DC. I used to use 6013 with iron oxide Flux for general welding, but eventually went entirely with 7014 iron oxide flux. Then, whenever I have more important welds, 7018 has been my go-to. I prefer DC reverse polarity for 95% of my work. Most often used rod diameter for me is usually 1/8 and sometimes 5/32. I have 6010 but don't care for the spatter. Although it does give the fast fill fast freeze, I think it's hard to beat the looks of a bead from the 7014/7018. My choice for vertical up welds is hands down the 7018. Also 6011 is found on my rod shelf, but I rarely use it. The 3/32 7018 works great for thin metals. It was always a bit nerve wracking when the guy with the x-ray machine would come check the welds since he was all that stood between the welders having a paycheck or standing in the unemployment line. 😬
What’s the story with the sickle blade behind you? I believe that’s what my dad calls it. I’ve used one on many of fence rows. Since you have it displayed so nicely, I figured there’s a story behind it
What you said at 3:58 is so weird about the amperage because I experience the opposite on my machine. I am running a 6011 1/8 at about 90-100 on the hottest, and then I can run a 7018 1/8 at about 130 in comparison. I run 7018 3/32 on the same settings as my 6011 1/8's. I am using an inverter machine so it doesn't like 6010 so I use 6011. However, 6011 DC burn rate is is good when I strike, but about halfway down the rod, it starts eating itself up alot faster, so I've found I need to run those rods on AC to get a better burnrate so the flux doesn't catch on fire.
I have a miller big 40 gas that was used by a bridge welder here in kansas and missouri. It has 4000 hours on it and still does great. He had a valve job done on it at some point and he was great at oil changes.he did a lot of gouging and 3 sixteenths 7018. He replaced it with 3 diesel hobarts to hook together for 1800 amps to do stud welding. At that time hobart was the only one making 600 amps 100 percent duty cycle per machine. Then itw bought hobart and miller and we have what we have today.
Hi, Chris 6013 are very common here in Australia. I personally don't use them unless there is nothing else. If you want slag inclusion, high or low and any amp's in-between use 6013 . I don't know why they even exist. PS keep up the good work 👍
Just getting back into welding since this internet was invented--so I bought a pile of electrodes: 6010, 6011, 6013, and 7014. I know I like 7018 already-as that was the last stick I ran much of a few years back. And in my relearning with various rods and the new little box, I have to say that your conclusion here is a good one. I don't see ANY reason to restock the 6013's.
Mine has an amp readout but it only works when youre actually welding..and not looking at it (presumably for a helper) but its a bear until you know the machine, now I can look at what I'm welding and zero it in just from the dial but for a while I had to test weld everything
Interesting I suppose how fortunate we were to have a great shop teacher in High School. We had an excellent welding class, although I admit being a screw off and not taking things as seriously as I should have what I managed to learn 35 years ago I notice every time I see a welding video is that many things that are spoken about I learned in that class. Moreover though I've learned much from watching individuals, like yourself, with knowledge learned on the job. I do not weld much but when I have I've even impressed myself with the outcome of each project as it seems that I weld better than our in house fab guy who fixes our heavy equipment in our shop. I will say however I'm not an expert and our guy is a great guy who does excellent work.
Curious what his first machine was that he stated was super reliable. He said kubota diesel, but what brand/type? Ive got a gas efi trailblazer, not a big boy diesel.
Been welding for 2 years and just became certified to do boiler, pressure vessels! New to the R stamp process but so far so good! Keep the videos coming! It's nice to see how others do things, fun to try and learn. Thank you!
Very good advice on used machines, you have convinced me that I don’t need a new machine that a used one will work great for my purposes. I’m convinced that a diesel machine would be good for my uses. Thank you this info is really helpful.
Thank you for all the insight that you provide me and my son both of use watch you and austin ross and we were wondering what we needed to take off on our own, my son is taking the votech program for welding and i learned welding in hs in ag program 20 years ago
Carbon arc gouging dosent hurt a machine, thats just what pipeliners say... My old BB400D would burn 3/8 carbon rods all day, and still weld just fine, sold it with 8400 hours, no problems
I both agree and disagree with you on this. Let me explain. If you’re using a nicrome wire rheostadt on the arc voltage controller then turn it up to full arc volts. There’s a big flat spot on the controller and it can handle the high load way better than the bare wire can. I find that around 200 amps is the sweet spot for 8mm carbons, lots of guys have full arc amps and that always runs like a hairy goat, try it and enjoy. Be it a gas engine or diesel, they all love a session of good load, keeps them healthy and unglazed. That’s just my findings.
I agree 100% but when testing for a jacka$$ one time called “bust em out bob” with bechtel that joker pulled the 2” xxs test coupon off the stand and straight to a bucket of water it went. Luckily it passes but I was pissed I was always told never quench like that. They also do it at Hatch nuclear plant in Georgia they got a big ole dunk tank. Just ridiculous 🥴🤦🏻♂️
I thoroughly enjoy all your videos I'm running the essay 250 off the back of a 2006 Chevy Silverado do I need to unplug the battery power if I plan to weld off the back, thank you for the videos love them
The first welder I bought was a Miller 250 nt with 4300 hours that didn't run. The only thing wrong with it was the brushes in the flywheel were dirty. It welded good. Recently I sold that one and bought a new lincoln 330 mpx. It's all digital and does pretty much everything.
Kubota are renowned for their quality, I've travelled alot over Asia and Europe, see them everywhere in agriculture and industrial facilities. Here on Sweden where I live they use them alot here aswell.
I’m about halfway through a 2 year welding program at my local community college I’m trying to get into pipe welding would joining my local pipefiters union be a good idea?
I'm uninformed and confused I know there is only 75 trillion dollars of precious gold silver metal and gyms in the world there's 8 billion people now how is it backed by paper like money
i dont know if you have posted one already but can you make a video on how to weld a bad fit up? like ones made in tight spots? I’ve been in some situations as a pipe fitter where we would get the pipe fit as best we could and it wouldnt be a perfect fit like in jack stands so how do you overcome that?
@@TaylorWelding awesome! thanks man, working in this industry, we start to see who the good and bad welders are and the one’s who can weld any fit up usually keep their jobs and get called more often
I finished Hobart welding school in 97...were you even born yet...lol 20 years of doing something wrong ='s what? a crappy you tube video that makes ya look dumb. ...lol
Here in Ireland the 6013 is known as the farmer’s welding rod. Works on rusty, dirty steel in less than ideal conditions. Whereas baling twine is jokingly called “farmer’s weld” because it’s used to tie stuff up in an emergency and then forgotten about. Gates, trailer tailboards etc.
You can pick up 6013 rods anywhere. Car parts places, feed supply stores, small hardware suppliers etc. Of you needed to borrow a welding rod from someone, chances are it will be a 6013 that they have.
I have no idea why. Maybe it has something to do with the higher voltages in Europe. Maybe it runs better here.
There’s an old joke that the difference between farmers and welder is that welders know they can’t farm properly 😂
It's called a load test when you hook up the ground and stinger directly to the same piece of metal. Sometimes people do that to heat/thaw pipe
I was taught the same thing when looking at a machine. Went to Cogan station PA to buy my first machine it was a 58 SA 200 rebuilt by a fella and the first thing I did with that after I let it run a couple minutes is take the biggest rod he had and just stick er to the pipe with all the goodies turned up and let it eat. She just let a little smoke roll and started a harmonious growl, it was beautiful haha
Nice
I haven't ever worked with a welder that had a digital readout, but your suggestion about setting the amps makes sense. I think the amp setting has a lot to do with if you're welding with AC or DC. I used to use 6013 with iron oxide Flux for general welding, but eventually went entirely with 7014 iron oxide flux. Then, whenever I have more important welds, 7018 has been my go-to. I prefer DC reverse polarity for 95% of my work. Most often used rod diameter for me is usually 1/8 and sometimes 5/32. I have 6010 but don't care for the spatter. Although it does give the fast fill fast freeze, I think it's hard to beat the looks of a bead from the 7014/7018. My choice for vertical up welds is hands down the 7018. Also 6011 is found on my rod shelf, but I rarely use it. The 3/32 7018 works great for thin metals.
It was always a bit nerve wracking when the guy with the x-ray machine would come check the welds since he was all that stood between the welders having a paycheck or standing in the unemployment line. 😬
What’s the story with the sickle blade behind you? I believe that’s what my dad calls it. I’ve used one on many of fence rows.
Since you have it displayed so nicely, I figured there’s a story behind it
What you said at 3:58 is so weird about the amperage because I experience the opposite on my machine. I am running a 6011 1/8 at about 90-100 on the hottest, and then I can run a 7018 1/8 at about 130 in comparison. I run 7018 3/32 on the same settings as my 6011 1/8's.
I am using an inverter machine so it doesn't like 6010 so I use 6011. However, 6011 DC burn rate is is good when I strike, but about halfway down the rod, it starts eating itself up alot faster, so I've found I need to run those rods on AC to get a better burnrate so the flux doesn't catch on fire.
I have a miller big 40 gas that was used by a bridge welder here in kansas and missouri. It has 4000 hours on it and still does great. He had a valve job done on it at some point and he was great at oil changes.he did a lot of gouging and 3 sixteenths 7018. He replaced it with 3 diesel hobarts to hook together for 1800 amps to do stud welding. At that time hobart was the only one making 600 amps 100 percent duty cycle per machine. Then itw bought hobart and miller and we have what we have today.
Hi, Chris 6013 are very common here in Australia. I personally don't use them unless there is nothing else. If you want slag inclusion, high or low and any amp's in-between use 6013 . I don't know why they even exist. PS keep up the good work 👍
Thank you Tim
Just getting back into welding since this internet was invented--so I bought a pile of electrodes: 6010, 6011, 6013, and 7014. I know I like 7018 already-as that was the last stick I ran much of a few years back. And in my relearning with various rods and the new little box, I have to say that your conclusion here is a good one. I don't see ANY reason to restock the 6013's.
Mine has an amp readout but it only works when youre actually welding..and not looking at it (presumably for a helper) but its a bear until you know the machine, now I can look at what I'm welding and zero it in just from the dial but for a while I had to test weld everything
Interesting I suppose how fortunate we were to have a great shop teacher in High School. We had an excellent welding class, although I admit being a screw off and not taking things as seriously as I should have what I managed to learn 35 years ago I notice every time I see a welding video is that many things that are spoken about I learned in that class. Moreover though I've learned much from watching individuals, like yourself, with knowledge learned on the job. I do not weld much but when I have I've even impressed myself with the outcome of each project as it seems that I weld better than our in house fab guy who fixes our heavy equipment in our shop. I will say however I'm not an expert and our guy is a great guy who does excellent work.
Yeah, I dislike the chipping hammer! Leaves a bunch of ugly spots!
Me too
Curious what his first machine was that he stated was super reliable. He said kubota diesel, but what brand/type? Ive got a gas efi trailblazer, not a big boy diesel.
My first machine was a vantage
They vary by brand as well. Not all 7018 or 6010 is created wqually
True. Not the cheap ones. For sure.
Been welding for 2 years and just became certified to do boiler, pressure vessels! New to the R stamp process but so far so good! Keep the videos coming! It's nice to see how others do things, fun to try and learn. Thank you!
Good luck!
Not exactly 6013's are commonly used overseas than 6010's, but some hybrids of them are used, combining pros and cons of both types!
Very good advice on used machines, you have convinced me that I don’t need a new machine that a used one will work great for my purposes. I’m convinced that a diesel machine would be good for my uses. Thank you this info is really helpful.
Thank you for all the insight that you provide me and my son both of use watch you and austin ross and we were wondering what we needed to take off on our own, my son is taking the votech program for welding and i learned welding in hs in ag program 20 years ago
If you have only so much to work with you create a global recession with losses
All you have to do is listen to it.
Your a better welder than me if you can just listen to it .
Been welding for 22 years,listen,feel and watch that pool and get it wet.
Carbon arc gouging dosent hurt a machine, thats just what pipeliners say... My old BB400D would burn 3/8 carbon rods all day, and still weld just fine, sold it with 8400 hours, no problems
I both agree and disagree with you on this. Let me explain. If you’re using a nicrome wire rheostadt on the arc voltage controller then turn it up to full arc volts. There’s a big flat spot on the controller and it can handle the high load way better than the bare wire can. I find that around 200 amps is the sweet spot for 8mm carbons, lots of guys have full arc amps and that always runs like a hairy goat, try it and enjoy. Be it a gas engine or diesel, they all love a session of good load, keeps them healthy and unglazed. That’s just my findings.
Great job Chris! I'm learning a lot. 🙂
Thanks, Andrew
too bad its all wrong...lol go to a real welding school...lol
I bet he couldn't even pass a bridge welding test...lol
he will be teaching ya to weld downhill next...lol good grief
Never EVER dunk a weld that your gonna cut straps from into water while it's hot
I agree 100% but when testing for a jacka$$ one time called “bust em out bob” with bechtel that joker pulled the 2” xxs test coupon off the stand and straight to a bucket of water it went. Luckily it passes but I was pissed I was always told never quench like that. They also do it at Hatch nuclear plant in Georgia they got a big ole dunk tank. Just ridiculous 🥴🤦🏻♂️
I thoroughly enjoy all your videos I'm running the essay 250 off the back of a 2006 Chevy Silverado do I need to unplug the battery power if I plan to weld off the back, thank you for the videos love them
SA 250
The first welder I bought was a Miller 250 nt with 4300 hours that didn't run. The only thing wrong with it was the brushes in the flywheel were dirty. It welded good. Recently I sold that one and bought a new lincoln 330 mpx. It's all digital and does pretty much everything.
Nice
Kubota are renowned for their quality, I've travelled alot over Asia and Europe, see them everywhere in agriculture and industrial facilities. Here on Sweden where I live they use them alot here aswell.
Kubota is the bomb Diggity… My tractor, my lawnmower, my welding machines, alll Kubota
I’m about halfway through a 2 year welding program at my local community college I’m trying to get into pipe welding would joining my local pipefiters union be a good idea?
It wasn’t for me . That’s really all I can say . Write down the pros & cons then make your decision
I'm uninformed and confused I know there is only 75 trillion dollars of precious gold silver metal and gyms in the world there's 8 billion people now how is it backed by paper like money
Idk 🤷
Thank you for your answer about the stubby rod saver.
I have trouble with undercut especially going uphill. What is your advice
Zipper motion hold your sides
@@calebc6028 ok maybe I am not holding long enough. Thanks
Hold on the sides longer than you think you should . Maybe turn it down
@@TaylorWelding ok thank you
i dont know if you have posted one already but can you make a video on how to weld a bad fit up? like ones made in tight spots? I’ve been in some situations as a pipe fitter where we would get the pipe fit as best we could and it wouldnt be a perfect fit like in jack stands so how do you overcome that?
That’s a great idea. The next Bad fit I get, I will make a video on it.
@@TaylorWelding awesome! thanks man, working in this industry, we start to see who the good and bad welders are and the one’s who can weld any fit up usually keep their jobs and get called more often
Thank you!
Why no wire wheel grinder?
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I run 1961 red face.
Nice
good way to ruin a welder adjusting it while welding...lol
people like you are why all the rental welder's suck...lol
That’s strange, I have turned mine up and down for 20 years while welding
just because you have done it wrong for 20 years dont mean much...lmao
I finished Hobart welding school in 97...were you even born yet...lol 20 years of doing something wrong ='s what? a crappy you tube video that makes ya look dumb. ...lol
why do they make welding rod amp charts then dumb guy...lol
"And then turn it up a little more!" Best advice people need to hear sometimes lol
👍 yep so true
Iv learned to read the puddle and if I’m digging a lot my arc force is at 12oclock and I like running a little hot
I always start in the middle and my Jose is named Austin! My son!
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