Probably the best "starter" printer for kids I've seen yet. If it works as a gateway in to design and fab- mission accomplished IMO. Thanks for the review!
@@birdwatchingwithdrrajasaur4410 The coconut nut is a giant nut If you eat too much, you'll get very fat Now, the coconut nut is a big, big nut But it's delicious nut is not a nut It's the coco fruit (it's the coco fruit) Of the coco tree (of the coco tree) From the coco palm family There are so many uses of the coconut tree You can build a bigger house for the family All you need is to find a coconut man If he cuts the tree, he gets the fruit free It's the coco fruit (it's the coco fruit) Of the coco tree (of the coco tree) From the coco palm family The coconut bark for the kitchen floor If you save some of it, you can build the door Now, the coconut trunk, do not throw this junk If you save some of it, you'll have the second floor The coconut wood is very good It can stand 20 years if you pray it would Now, the coconut root, to tell you the truth You can throw it or use it as firewood The coconut leaves good shade it gives For the roof, for the walls up against the eaves Now, the coconut fruit, say my relatives Make good cannonballs up against the eaves It's the coco fruit (it's the coco fruit) Of the coco tree (of the coco tree) From the coco palm family The coconut nut is a giant nut If you eat too much, you'll get very fat Now, the coconut nut is a big, big nut But it's delicious nut is not a nut The coconut nut is a giant nut If you eat too much, you'll get very fat Now, the coconut nut is a big, big nut But it's delicious nut is not a nut It's the coco fruit (it's the coco fruit) Of the coco tree (of the coco tree) From the coco palm family It's the coco fruit (it's the coco fruit) Of the coco tree (of the coco tree) From the coco palm family It's the coco fruit (it's the coco fruit) Of the coco tree (of the coco tree) From the coco palm family
My daughter just needs to grow up and learn the prusa mk3 like the rest of the world!!! /s edit: In all seriousness, my daughter has been wanting a 3d printer since she's seen the cool things I've done with mine. And she showed this to me. Nice to see you reviewing it.
I see this more to teach young people how to model. When I was in school we learned how to use laser cutters with the CAD software, Its only natural school would progress to 3D printers. So long as it connects to a PC and allows people to send models it should be great.
Thanks 3D Printing Nerd for the review! Just ordered a Toybox for a 6 year old. I feel like this is the best 3D printer for a young person get introduced to 3D printing.
That's exactly what I was thinking and as someone who owns a mod-t, my primary concern with the toy box is long term future support. New Matter closed shop, released one final revision of the firmware to allow for offline third party support and handed over what little part support off to another company. They were running with this same business model that Toy Box is planning. What is Toy Box going to do different to keep it in business? The mod-t cost the same, had a bigger print area, and also had easy set up and print software support and that wasn't enough to stay in business.
I saw a lady who never touched a 3d printer set this one up and start making things. Also the app that it uses also lets you create new items to print. She had a blast creating and printing.
Thanks. That answes my big Q. I probably wouldn't want to make anything from the site, but instead little pratical pcs/adapters off my own design and was wondering if users were limited to the existing library.
The problem I have with targeting printers at kids isn't the print quality or ease of use, but the maintenance. It's not going to happen in a lot of cases, because parents aren't always on the same page as their kids on whatever device they want, and the answer to a clog is going to be sending in the entire unit for warranty service, barring some dead easy nozzle swapping. I really hope that's a stellar warranty.
We just got this printer for my son for Christmas and it printed one thing and then stopped working. The food isn't feeding through. It shouldn't be making a clicking noise should it?
This is cool! My mother is a teacher and she loves having a 3D printer in there for her students. Something like this might make that more of a home thing for some families. And the redone studio looks GREAT! The new backdrop is very nice. 👌
I wish all printers could print so easily. Without having to slice the files and put them on a card and troubleshoot after each print cause something's wrong. Just seems so simple with that one, with the limitation of size. The maker of that printer could really go places if another one is designed with bigger build volume.
The inevitable troubleshooting with your first printer is probably what stops most people early in the hobby. Takes a couple weeks or months of frustration which is really just learning all the little things you have to do to keep your printer running well and then its smooth sailing. So this little guy working good enough out of the box is great and should bring in some new people to the hobby.
I just watched the Shark Tank episode and can agree with the investors. The printer is targeted to the 6-10 year old range. Very few children have the patient to wait for the long print times. I too worry about the safety of this printer in this age range. I agree that the more realistic target range would be the 12-16 year old range, as a first printer. It is the software interface which makes this such a potential for students. This would be great to have at junior high schools where there is some supervision. When looking at the size of the workspace and lack of heated bed, I think they also need to work on the pricing to get somewhat competitive to other basic printers on the market. As you know pricing is very competitive in general basic printers, most of which are larger than this. Concept is great, but the pricing needs help.
Similar market to the Creality CR-100 that Naomi Eh just did a video about. The curated library is good for some people, but it keeps kids from designing thier own. If they make a way for you to upload your own models, I would consider it for a child or school. But as it is, it just isn't useful enough.
A great video showing this printer Joel. I think allowing the younger generation to be creative in the 3d printing industry is amazing and will be key for inspiring more people, especially now it can be done at a young age. And oh, remind me to call filament printer food from now on!
I got mine months ago, it works fine, even though it has wifi poor antenna and doesn't have a part fan (it prints pla), I'm enjoying it with my 9 year old daughter. I designed a spool holder to accept regular size spools
It seems like this would be a good first printer for parents who aren't the most technically inclined, but have a kid who wants to get into 3D printing. It sounds like the instructions could use some work and the app might need some more work to be more stable, but those are relatively minor issues compared to if the company required a hardware revision to fix a problem. I like that it's not on the other end of the spectrum where a parent is trying to put a kit together for their kid. Nor are they having to mess with getting a slicer going to get the kid into it. It's seems quick and easy to set up and I really appreciate that the app has accurate estimates of the print time. Those of us who do 3D printing know that 3D printing is a lot slower than you expect when you first get into it. This way the kid can look at the timer and know how much longer it'll take for their prints to finish instead of just losing interest because of a long print. I guess my question is, are you able to print things not in the app, and if so how hard is it? If the printer isn't able to print things not in the app, or the learning curve is too steep, I could easily see this turning into a $300 paperweight as well. I think what I would like to see is a kind of drag and drop slicer solution, like in the app or a desktop application, where the kid or parent could just add an STL and the program is already mostly pre-configured with things like layer height and speed. The only required options would be things like infill and other options specific to the print, but not the printer. If something like what I described is there, then it becomes an even better investment as a learning tool when combined with something like TinkerCAD
I’m 13 going into high school next year I don’t own a computer or laptop I’m thinking of buying this do you have a better recommendation for a first printer
Looking at their website, branding and what they have on offer, it looks like a good start to get your kids (or significant other) into 3D printing without introducing the complexities (and sometimes disappointments) that come with printing on a higher end printer.
there are a lot of other printers like XYZ has, that are cheaper, better, bigger, faster and easy to use. I have a da Vinci mini maker that's old for 200 bucks, that prints allot better than this.
This looks like a much better Children's 3D Printer than the Creality 3D CR-100 that looks like a Transformer truck for about $180. The instructions how to set it up and use it were horrible at best. Once I did figure how to set up the printer and slicer software I was impressed with the first print, did 3 more test prints then printed a part for my RC truck. I would say the print quality is better than what I saw in your video with the Toybox. The next print I attempted the filament guide tube pulled out of the hot end. I contacted Creality 3D since it was only about a week old and has a 1 year warranty. They wanted "photos", which I sent. They asked if I had "modified" the printer, stating the photos don't look like their product. Since there are no CR-100 replacement parts available anywhere, not even from Creality 3D, I asked them 5 times (so far) if CR-10 parts would work since I can find them for sale online. They have never answered that question. The last I heard from them, nearly a week ago, they said they were sending my case to a "professional person" (whatever that means), and I haven't heard back from them since. Needless to say I am not overly thrilled with Creality 3D and won't be buying any more of their products.
I've chosen in my unlimited wisdom a delta. Worked great the first year, then started to need rebuilt (delta arms were uneven lenght, and the joints were totally worn). Now with magnetic arms that thing works great, again. Aso the Ultrabase was worn down completely, needed to use bluetape. :D
Joel, Thank you for making this video and sharing it. When I saw unbox this printer all I could think about was the M3D micro, and how terrible of an experience that printer was for me as my first printer. Knowing nothing else and not doing enough research is partially to blame, but the M3D micro was about the same price as this one, and had fairly equal print quality. For the price, the ease of use was absolutely not worth the hit to print quality and the inability for the printer to grow with me. Within 2 months of getting it, I was frustrated and I felt like I had just gotten a very bad deal because I was seeing all of the wonderful prints that people were making with other printers, and then with my printer I wasn't getting anything near that quality. Now I have a Prusa i3 Mk2s, which I love, but now I'm also stuck with a $300 printer that I haven't been able to sell for a year now. I think that the cost of the printer would have been something that would be important to include with the review. Thank you again for the time and dedication you put into your work and this channel, it truly shows through. :)
@@gooooooootooooooo3825 Depending on his skill level it is an excellent printer. My 5 yr old made all of the items she donated to a nursing home herself, loaded the filament, took the item off the plate and ran the app herself. Her sense of pride is rarely higher than after that project. Their Black Friday deal looks decent this year. But I have no experience with the subscription service.
@@gooooooootooooooo3825 Oh but I really must advise against Silk filament in it. The layer adhesion with silk is bad and sticking that first layer is 50/50 (Note: the same silk that doesn’t work in my Toybox run beautifully in all my other printers) I highly highly recommend Overture Matte PLA, I have ran 50+ prints in a row perfectly adheres to it self and the build plate every time (almost too well). It is what I have my daughter use when she wants to print things out without my interference.
A huge concern is that it uses it's own website to setup and print. I didnt research if it can be used standalone, but limited skimming seemed that's not an option. So, remember Printrbot? If not, see Tom's videos about them going out of business and having a proprietary way to print that stopped working when they went belly up. As you said Joel, this is specifically marketed towards kids and ease of use. My kids dont need dumbed down versions of printing and printer software. But they are also teenagers. Just my 2 cents, beware printers that require proprietary apps/cloud only sources to send prints. Not for me.
The printing mats that come with these are awful, the adhesion wears out extremely fast. I recommend putting masking tape on the print bed before printing, to extend longevity of the bed, and to assist your prints in sticking to the bed. ToyBox has also recommended doing this in some of their support forums.
Interesting printer....one thing to note: printing 3d plates or cups is not recommended due to bacteria build up in small crevices when 3d printing and filament and small parts concerts. See the FDA for more information.
Not sure if you hear it, but around 12min mark is high pitch sound, test if it's from the printer. Maybe you don't hear it, but kids will DEFINITELY hear that, and will drive them crazy at some point
Lots of folks are confused by the price. They're a small company that's only really just got started so they haven't produced many printers and they have to recoup their expenditure quick to keep their head above water (it's why they've gone on shark tank to try and acquire more capital, and more importantly visibility). Producing a product at a market penetrating price tends to require a larger company that can afford to produce the product for a longer period of time before it eventually becomes profitable. Larger production volumes also tend to decrease the price per product. So, you either operate at a loss until you eventually make enough sales to cover costs, or you start with a higher price point and produce lower volume and hope that your product fits a niche. If the company is successful, I have no doubt the printer will come down in price.
Not for $300. I purchased my dual extruder printer with heated bed and a roll of filament for $300 off ebay and it can print on a bed 250mm wide. It was also preassembled. Sure it's a chinese one, but this tiny thing should be around $150 imo.
It's all about the software ecosystem. Kids in the age range Toybox is targeting aren't gonna learn Simplify3D and Marlin. They just want to pick a toy on the tablet and start the print.
9:03 on my Anet A8, the Flexi-Rex prints beautifully! All the little sections move and it comes off in one piece and there are little to no imperfections visible. I tried the same thing on a Flash Forge Creator Pro and it didn’t turn out great. It was rigid and the tail did t move all that great like yours, it is also rough around the edges and is coated in imperfections. It’s kind of interesting to see that a $200 printer out performed a $1000. Granted that it wasn’t a fair comparison. I printed the one on the ffcp in pla but with abs settings, I was running out of time and forgot to switch to abs, I changed as much as I could with the on board printer settings though.
As a first printer, depending on price of course, it's not horrible. The Monoprice Select Mini is also a mostly ready to go out of the box printer with it appears a similar build area (Mini is 120mm cubed, ToyBox is. . . Who knows, 0 specs on the site) but the Mini isn't proprietary, used standard 1.75 filament. Gotta be honest, $300 on sale, normally $400? $10 for a .5lb (0.23kg) spool of filament ($40 for less than a kilo). This this is not a bargain. The Monoprice is usually $199 and occasionally on sale. I know you like it, Joel, but the price of the printer and filament are quite high. I could see going for it if it were affordable but not for what they're asking.
Software. Cura isn't the easiest software in the world to use, and it sure as shooting isn't allowing a kid to print something at the tap of a button on a smartphone.
I know the old 15.whatever version of Cura, which came with my Mini, had an easy/simple mode. It worked okay for most prints and the only thing I think I had to change was supports or no. The ToyBox has a limited selection of items (500). There's no info so I don't know if you have to keep your phone/tablet tethered during the print. Their proprietary system isn't worth $100. And their 'printer food' is over $40 a kilogram!
@@Hawk1966 Speaking as a parent $100 Isn't that much if it gives my daughter a sense of independence and accomplishment. The library doesn't bother me either because it is curated(incredibly important feature for a parent in 2019 looking to give their child any semblance of independence), and it is going to grow over time. On top of that you can import your own files. As for the filament according to the site it is standard 1.75mm PLA so getting that cheaper shouldn't be a huge hassle. As for having your device connected at all times that obviously isn't the case as Joel said he started a print on his phone then left for the baseball game leaving his daughter to print controlling the printer with her iPad. He also said he was able to check up on her via his device while she was printing from her device; great parental feature. As a parent this looks like a great device, as an enthusiast I see your point of view, but I think it is looking at the device in a very narrow way that overlooks really important and convenient features that make the extra $100 a lot more palatable.
@@CDRaff speaking as someone living on a fixed income $100 is a lot to blow on stuff that can be done just as easily by applying a bit of learning and self moderation of what your kids do.
that's cool, but there is like a way to unlock it to use with a different slicer or with their own slicer but to be able to experiment a bit more? Because I can see an older kid wanting to experiment or tweak the settings a bit to learn more about 3D printing
Love the videos! I’m 15 and I have an creality ender 3 and love printing with it! You should do a review on it. So people like me (somewhat new to 3D printing) can get help
Can you only print models on the app or can you print your own? Inreally just need something thats beginner friendly where I can make small parts to put on packaging
I feel like those prints, while not perfect, were more than good enough for a kid. My daughter would be more than happy with those prints; especially since she would be able to do most of it herself.
If you ask me $399 for starter kit and $469 dollars for deluxe Toybox 3D printer is nuts.. For a school class room they would be better off using 3D printer like the Creality Ender 3. It's a 3D printer that is used by TON of people around the world so getting help won't be a problem if anything goes wrong. Also parts is widely available for the Creality Ender 3 if you ever need to replace a part on it. Plus there is the fact I think students would enjoy helping a adult build a 3D printer like the Creality Ender 3.
That elephant model can actually be really tricky. It was one of the first things I printed on my Ender 3 and I wasn't able to free the legs, they just fused to the body
This is a printer that is perfect for the 'demographic'it is aimed for. Someone who uses an Ultimaker in his factory would not look at this for his second factory printer, and this is not aimed for that market. It is a tool for children to play with making their ideas become reality, a step into the world of CAD.
Looks like a Createbot Super Mini other than the missing SD card and USB slot in the front. The removable build plate style and the positions of holes on the frame are the same.
Good video. Adorable looking printer. Not totally convinced by the print quality though. I wish there existed more tiny but solid plug and play printers with focus on print quality not necessary trying to compete on being cheapest to buy. I design many small print-in-place models with a lot of articulation, and a second printer at this size would be really nice to have next to me on the desk. I don't often need a 40x40cm bed. Oh, and I like you new wall!
It's funny how in America you can sue companys for every unmentioned safety hazard imagineable. But I don't think you can, because you have to make the small plastic parts yourself. If I were to buy a table, cut the wood into small pieces and choke on them, I couldn't sue the company that made the table.
Honestly, if you were a parent with no experience in 3D printing, I would recommend an Ender 3 or something over this. I’d rather spend the same money on something that you can learn together. While great, this printer won’t teach you much about 3D printing, and eventually the print quality will decline. With a bit of tuning, you can get the same experience from an Ender 3, but with a lot more support and virtually no skill ceiling. This would make a great first printer for a kid, yes. But the Ender 3 is a great first printer for everyone, and you can upgrade it out the wazoo.
For a first printer, especially one that works with tablets and phones across wifi, I think it's ideal for kids to enter the world of printing. As you said, second or third printer? Not really, but for kids, big and small, to cut their teeth with the technology, I think it's great. Ideal for schools!
I was expecting this to be really expensive. It's actually a great way to get kids into 3d printing, which leads to design and fabrication which is something that is needed in this world. One thing I cant find is an appropriate age range.
What I am wondering is how easy it is for kids to upload their own models. If it is supposed to inspire kids to make their own toys, I think they should be able to make their own designs too. Possibly something like customizer (on thingiverse) or maybe a tinkerCAD import option. I always found that TinkerCAD was a great way to get kids interested in this stuff. Otherwise, it would be sorta like giving a kid a coloring book and absolutely no blank paper. Coloring books are fun, but its also fun to freehand your own pictures too. Otherwise, it seems that the Toybox 3D printer only needs software improvements and less so the hardware.
I was showing at a faire this weekend and a dad was trying to explain 3D Printing to his kid. The kid kept repeating: I know this dad!! In many cases kids are already leading the way.
HI, I saw this printer and wanted to see if is worthy to buy it and print ear savers to give away for the health care providers … does anyone knows if this will work for that? thank you.
Nice Video, the marketing is creative but small prints with kids = choke hazards, so calling filament food may need to be revised. Nice concept just needs to be refined or definitely raise the recommendation on age targets. Loving that wall Joel !! great work !
This next generation of kids & engineers that have access to all these amazing tools is an exciting thought! I just had a whittl’n stick & a dull knife. “Printer Food” is a tad cheesy, but hey if it gets kids into the hobby, who cares what they call it.
Have a question if I buy 3d printer could I print big block that link together take bunch and build a home out those block if so what would be the best printer for that kinda projected ?
It’s hard to tell from their website, but assuming as they are promoting it on shark tank they would be USA based so one would hope support and spare parts should be a lot easier to obtain than the the cheaper Chinese printers. For new users it should be an important consideration.
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So if filament is called printer food, is the final print called printer poop?
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Probably the best "starter" printer for kids I've seen yet. If it works as a gateway in to design and fab- mission accomplished IMO. Thanks for the review!
I need to rent a child to test printers for me🤔😅
Rylee would love to help! :)
😂
I'm a complete child. Cheap, too.
Or you know you can just have kids and have em for a life time lol
I will watch your 3D printer print, Naomi Wu, cause I am the oldest kid you will ever meet. LOL
10:11 "This is for kids to make their own toys"
Kid be like: Hmm yes, how fun, _Utah teapot_
Kids be like: Hmm yes, how fun, *_3DBenchy_*
Some rockets and a grenade, i bet many kids would love that.
@@teresashinkansen9402 You are forgetting the mortar, it builds teamwork.
Friend: What filament do you print with the most?
Me: I use coconut, apple, blueberry, and raspberry.
Granny Smith or Red Delicious?
The coconut nut is not a nut
Does it come in mint (juul joke)
Yeah
@@birdwatchingwithdrrajasaur4410
The coconut nut is a giant nut
If you eat too much, you'll get very fat
Now, the coconut nut is a big, big nut
But it's delicious nut is not a nut
It's the coco fruit (it's the coco fruit)
Of the coco tree (of the coco tree)
From the coco palm family
There are so many uses of the coconut tree
You can build a bigger house for the family
All you need is to find a coconut man
If he cuts the tree, he gets the fruit free
It's the coco fruit (it's the coco fruit)
Of the coco tree (of the coco tree)
From the coco palm family
The coconut bark for the kitchen floor
If you save some of it, you can build the door
Now, the coconut trunk, do not throw this junk
If you save some of it, you'll have the second floor
The coconut wood is very good
It can stand 20 years if you pray it would
Now, the coconut root, to tell you the truth
You can throw it or use it as firewood
The coconut leaves good shade it gives
For the roof, for the walls up against the eaves
Now, the coconut fruit, say my relatives
Make good cannonballs up against the eaves
It's the coco fruit (it's the coco fruit)
Of the coco tree (of the coco tree)
From the coco palm family
The coconut nut is a giant nut
If you eat too much, you'll get very fat
Now, the coconut nut is a big, big nut
But it's delicious nut is not a nut
The coconut nut is a giant nut
If you eat too much, you'll get very fat
Now, the coconut nut is a big, big nut
But it's delicious nut is not a nut
It's the coco fruit (it's the coco fruit)
Of the coco tree (of the coco tree)
From the coco palm family
It's the coco fruit (it's the coco fruit)
Of the coco tree (of the coco tree)
From the coco palm family
It's the coco fruit (it's the coco fruit)
Of the coco tree (of the coco tree)
From the coco palm family
My daughter just needs to grow up and learn the prusa mk3 like the rest of the world!!! /s
edit:
In all seriousness, my daughter has been wanting a 3d printer since she's seen the cool things I've done with mine. And she showed this to me. Nice to see you reviewing it.
So you have a choice, you could buy her this or buy yourself a new printer when she takes over your prusa mk3. Princesses will not be denied!
Now I'm curious, did you end up getting this for her?
I see this more to teach young people how to model. When I was in school we learned how to use laser cutters with the CAD software, Its only natural school would progress to 3D printers. So long as it connects to a PC and allows people to send models it should be great.
Thanks 3D Printing Nerd for the review! Just ordered a Toybox for a 6 year old. I feel like this is the best 3D printer for a young person get introduced to 3D printing.
Can we please just call all power supply's electron delivery services from now on?
I’m sorry, ups has delayed your electron delivery
Reminds me of the New Matter Modt Printer which had similar cloud files and slicing with WiFi connection. New Matter is out of business.
That's exactly what I was thinking and as someone who owns a mod-t, my primary concern with the toy box is long term future support. New Matter closed shop, released one final revision of the firmware to allow for offline third party support and handed over what little part support off to another company. They were running with this same business model that Toy Box is planning. What is Toy Box going to do different to keep it in business? The mod-t cost the same, had a bigger print area, and also had easy set up and print software support and that wasn't enough to stay in business.
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The backdrop looks great!!
Standard youtube 3D printing channel backdrop.
okleydokley only it’s usually Birchwood
I saw a lady who never touched a 3d printer set this one up and start making things.
Also the app that it uses also lets you create new items to print.
She had a blast creating and printing.
Thanks. That answes my big Q. I probably wouldn't want to make anything from the site, but instead little pratical pcs/adapters off my own design and was wondering if users were limited to the existing library.
I love this. There is just something about tiny 3d printers that I find appealing. And this one seems well built and tiny AF.
I use a Bambu X1C but still use this little Toybox for fun projects like small ornaments etc for christmas
That backgroung looks great
But can it print a benchy?
Print volume is too small
@@fhuber7507 lol wut? a benchy not a bench. :)
@@fhuber7507 you so know 3d prints can be resized right? Lol
If I have kids I’m naming the first one benchy
Can it run Quake?
I am in love with that wood wall, bravo! The background has never been better!
"Kids of all ages can havw fun encluding me "
Is the best Statement ever
Hey Joel you should do a collab with I like to make stuff, that would be a really good video
The problem I have with targeting printers at kids isn't the print quality or ease of use, but the maintenance. It's not going to happen in a lot of cases, because parents aren't always on the same page as their kids on whatever device they want, and the answer to a clog is going to be sending in the entire unit for warranty service, barring some dead easy nozzle swapping. I really hope that's a stellar warranty.
We just got this printer for my son for Christmas and it printed one thing and then stopped working. The food isn't feeding through. It shouldn't be making a clicking noise should it?
This is cool! My mother is a teacher and she loves having a 3D printer in there for her students. Something like this might make that more of a home thing for some families.
And the redone studio looks GREAT! The new backdrop is very nice. 👌
I wish all printers could print so easily. Without having to slice the files and put them on a card and troubleshoot after each print cause something's wrong. Just seems so simple with that one, with the limitation of size. The maker of that printer could really go places if another one is designed with bigger build volume.
The inevitable troubleshooting with your first printer is probably what stops most people early in the hobby. Takes a couple weeks or months of frustration which is really just learning all the little things you have to do to keep your printer running well and then its smooth sailing. So this little guy working good enough out of the box is great and should bring in some new people to the hobby.
@Blondie SL I teach robotics .you are so right. This will be outgrown by 4th grade,and should be called a toy not a tool.
I just bought this for myself as an adult and a total 3D newb, and I’m so excited!
Now I just need to to figure how to make my own 3D models.
I just watched the Shark Tank episode and can agree with the investors. The printer is targeted to the 6-10 year old range. Very few children have the patient to wait for the long print times. I too worry about the safety of this printer in this age range. I agree that the more realistic target range would be the 12-16 year old range, as a first printer. It is the software interface which makes this such a potential for students. This would be great to have at junior high schools where there is some supervision. When looking at the size of the workspace and lack of heated bed, I think they also need to work on the pricing to get somewhat competitive to other basic printers on the market. As you know pricing is very competitive in general basic printers, most of which are larger than this. Concept is great, but the pricing needs help.
I can see these easy quick prints being exciting for kids.
Similar market to the Creality CR-100 that Naomi Eh just did a video about. The curated library is good for some people, but it keeps kids from designing thier own. If they make a way for you to upload your own models, I would consider it for a child or school. But as it is, it just isn't useful enough.
And the Cr100 is 1/2 the standard non-sale price of the toybox.
The app includes making new 3d objects and editing the included objects.
Not great modeling, but some modeling.
Thanks, David Mc!
A great video showing this printer Joel. I think allowing the younger generation to be creative in the 3d printing industry is amazing and will be key for inspiring more people, especially now it can be done at a young age. And oh, remind me to call filament printer food from now on!
I got mine months ago, it works fine, even though it has wifi poor antenna and doesn't have a part fan (it prints pla), I'm enjoying it with my 9 year old daughter. I designed a spool holder to accept regular size spools
It seems like this would be a good first printer for parents who aren't the most technically inclined, but have a kid who wants to get into 3D printing. It sounds like the instructions could use some work and the app might need some more work to be more stable, but those are relatively minor issues compared to if the company required a hardware revision to fix a problem.
I like that it's not on the other end of the spectrum where a parent is trying to put a kit together for their kid. Nor are they having to mess with getting a slicer going to get the kid into it. It's seems quick and easy to set up and I really appreciate that the app has accurate estimates of the print time. Those of us who do 3D printing know that 3D printing is a lot slower than you expect when you first get into it. This way the kid can look at the timer and know how much longer it'll take for their prints to finish instead of just losing interest because of a long print.
I guess my question is, are you able to print things not in the app, and if so how hard is it? If the printer isn't able to print things not in the app, or the learning curve is too steep, I could easily see this turning into a $300 paperweight as well.
I think what I would like to see is a kind of drag and drop slicer solution, like in the app or a desktop application, where the kid or parent could just add an STL and the program is already mostly pre-configured with things like layer height and speed. The only required options would be things like infill and other options specific to the print, but not the printer. If something like what I described is there, then it becomes an even better investment as a learning tool when combined with something like TinkerCAD
7:35 it’s a giraffe (in Patrick Star's voice)
A thorough and fair review of this morning in printer! It’s pretty much perfect for what it is.
I’m 13 going into high school next year I don’t own a computer or laptop I’m thinking of buying this do you have a better recommendation for a first printer
I think my cr-10 has a promotion volume bigger than that entire printer.
This is made for children
Looking at their website, branding and what they have on offer, it looks like a good start to get your kids (or significant other) into 3D printing without introducing the complexities (and sometimes disappointments) that come with printing on a higher end printer.
How much can you print with one roll of filament? And how much does a replacement roll cost?
Pretty small printer for the price but I suppose for what it offers it’s not horrible.
Id trade print volume for frame rigidity any day.
Agree - the print size looks tiny! I think the sculpto.eu is maybe a better solution :-)
there are a lot of other printers like XYZ has, that are cheaper, better, bigger, faster and easy to use.
I have a da Vinci mini maker that's old for 200 bucks, that prints allot better than this.
The new set is a result. Nice job.
They're pitching in the episode airing right now actually. 10:15pm EST on 03/10/2019.
This looks like a much better Children's 3D Printer than the Creality 3D CR-100 that looks like a Transformer truck for about $180. The instructions how to set it up and use it were horrible at best. Once I did figure how to set up the printer and slicer software I was impressed with the first print, did 3 more test prints then printed a part for my RC truck. I would say the print quality is better than what I saw in your video with the Toybox. The next print I attempted the filament guide tube pulled out of the hot end. I contacted Creality 3D since it was only about a week old and has a 1 year warranty. They wanted "photos", which I sent. They asked if I had "modified" the printer, stating the photos don't look like their product. Since there are no CR-100 replacement parts available anywhere, not even from Creality 3D, I asked them 5 times (so far) if CR-10 parts would work since I can find them for sale online. They have never answered that question. The last I heard from them, nearly a week ago, they said they were sending my case to a "professional person" (whatever that means), and I haven't heard back from them since. Needless to say I am not overly thrilled with Creality 3D and won't be buying any more of their products.
My first printer was the monoprice select mini
Good option
I've chosen in my unlimited wisdom a delta.
Worked great the first year, then started to need rebuilt (delta arms were uneven lenght, and the joints were totally worn). Now with magnetic arms that thing works great, again. Aso the Ultrabase was worn down completely, needed to use bluetape. :D
Joel, Thank you for making this video and sharing it. When I saw unbox this printer all I could think about was the M3D micro, and how terrible of an experience that printer was for me as my first printer. Knowing nothing else and not doing enough research is partially to blame, but the M3D micro was about the same price as this one, and had fairly equal print quality. For the price, the ease of use was absolutely not worth the hit to print quality and the inability for the printer to grow with me. Within 2 months of getting it, I was frustrated and I felt like I had just gotten a very bad deal because I was seeing all of the wonderful prints that people were making with other printers, and then with my printer I wasn't getting anything near that quality. Now I have a Prusa i3 Mk2s, which I love, but now I'm also stuck with a $300 printer that I haven't been able to sell for a year now. I think that the cost of the printer would have been something that would be important to include with the review. Thank you again for the time and dedication you put into your work and this channel, it truly shows through. :)
Like the new background, looks really clean.
Ditto
The new, uncluttered look of your studio is nice!
Nailed it! This is on it’s way as my 3rd printer… rewatching this years later is too much fun. 😄
Do you recommend this product or what’s your experience with it been so far I’m thinking of getting my son one
@@gooooooootooooooo3825 Depending on his skill level it is an excellent printer. My 5 yr old made all of the items she donated to a nursing home herself, loaded the filament, took the item off the plate and ran the app herself. Her sense of pride is rarely higher than after that project. Their Black Friday deal looks decent this year. But I have no experience with the subscription service.
@@gooooooootooooooo3825 Oh but I really must advise against Silk filament in it. The layer adhesion with silk is bad and sticking that first layer is 50/50 (Note: the same silk that doesn’t work in my Toybox run beautifully in all my other printers)
I highly highly recommend Overture Matte PLA, I have ran 50+ prints in a row perfectly adheres to it self and the build plate every time (almost too well). It is what I have my daughter use when she wants to print things out without my interference.
More wood paneling than my parents basement in the 70s...
A huge concern is that it uses it's own website to setup and print. I didnt research if it can be used standalone, but limited skimming seemed that's not an option. So, remember Printrbot? If not, see Tom's videos about them going out of business and having a proprietary way to print that stopped working when they went belly up.
As you said Joel, this is specifically marketed towards kids and ease of use. My kids dont need dumbed down versions of printing and printer software. But they are also teenagers.
Just my 2 cents, beware printers that require proprietary apps/cloud only sources to send prints. Not for me.
The printing mats that come with these are awful, the adhesion wears out extremely fast. I recommend putting masking tape on the print bed before printing, to extend longevity of the bed, and to assist your prints in sticking to the bed. ToyBox has also recommended doing this in some of their support forums.
Interesting printer....one thing to note: printing 3d plates or cups is not recommended due to bacteria build up in small crevices when 3d printing and filament and small parts concerts. See the FDA for more information.
Not sure if you hear it, but around 12min mark is high pitch sound, test if it's from the printer.
Maybe you don't hear it, but kids will DEFINITELY hear that, and will drive them crazy at some point
Lots of folks are confused by the price. They're a small company that's only really just got started so they haven't produced many printers and they have to recoup their expenditure quick to keep their head above water (it's why they've gone on shark tank to try and acquire more capital, and more importantly visibility). Producing a product at a market penetrating price tends to require a larger company that can afford to produce the product for a longer period of time before it eventually becomes profitable. Larger production volumes also tend to decrease the price per product. So, you either operate at a loss until you eventually make enough sales to cover costs, or you start with a higher price point and produce lower volume and hope that your product fits a niche.
If the company is successful, I have no doubt the printer will come down in price.
I am saving this video for when my daughter is old enough to get her started on this amazing world of 3D Printing.
That's a great idea, and let's hope that this isn't the only offering for your daughter when she is old enough!
Is it possible to do custom prints with this? And can you use more than 1 filament in 1 print?
Not for $300. I purchased my dual extruder printer with heated bed and a roll of filament for $300 off ebay and it can print on a bed 250mm wide. It was also preassembled. Sure it's a chinese one, but this tiny thing should be around $150 imo.
It's all about the software ecosystem. Kids in the age range Toybox is targeting aren't gonna learn Simplify3D and Marlin. They just want to pick a toy on the tablet and start the print.
Fantastic tool to teach children all aspects of production!
you need to blow that flute thing at 90 degrees to make it work, normal posture, tubes must be vertical, you blow horizontally.
damn son... that new back wall is NIIIIIIICE
9:03 on my Anet A8, the Flexi-Rex prints beautifully! All the little sections move and it comes off in one piece and there are little to no imperfections visible. I tried the same thing on a Flash Forge Creator Pro and it didn’t turn out great. It was rigid and the tail did t move all that great like yours, it is also rough around the edges and is coated in imperfections. It’s kind of interesting to see that a $200 printer out performed a $1000.
Granted that it wasn’t a fair comparison. I printed the one on the ffcp in pla but with abs settings, I was running out of time and forgot to switch to abs, I changed as much as I could with the on board printer settings though.
As a first printer, depending on price of course, it's not horrible. The Monoprice Select Mini is also a mostly ready to go out of the box printer with it appears a similar build area (Mini is 120mm cubed, ToyBox is. . . Who knows, 0 specs on the site) but the Mini isn't proprietary, used standard 1.75 filament. Gotta be honest, $300 on sale, normally $400? $10 for a .5lb (0.23kg) spool of filament ($40 for less than a kilo). This this is not a bargain. The Monoprice is usually $199 and occasionally on sale.
I know you like it, Joel, but the price of the printer and filament are quite high. I could see going for it if it were affordable but not for what they're asking.
Software. Cura isn't the easiest software in the world to use, and it sure as shooting isn't allowing a kid to print something at the tap of a button on a smartphone.
I know the old 15.whatever version of Cura, which came with my Mini, had an easy/simple mode. It worked okay for most prints and the only thing I think I had to change was supports or no. The ToyBox has a limited selection of items (500). There's no info so I don't know if you have to keep your phone/tablet tethered during the print.
Their proprietary system isn't worth $100. And their 'printer food' is over $40 a kilogram!
@@Hawk1966 Speaking as a parent $100 Isn't that much if it gives my daughter a sense of independence and accomplishment. The library doesn't bother me either because it is curated(incredibly important feature for a parent in 2019 looking to give their child any semblance of independence), and it is going to grow over time. On top of that you can import your own files.
As for the filament according to the site it is standard 1.75mm PLA so getting that cheaper shouldn't be a huge hassle.
As for having your device connected at all times that obviously isn't the case as Joel said he started a print on his phone then left for the baseball game leaving his daughter to print controlling the printer with her iPad. He also said he was able to check up on her via his device while she was printing from her device; great parental feature.
As a parent this looks like a great device, as an enthusiast I see your point of view, but I think it is looking at the device in a very narrow way that overlooks really important and convenient features that make the extra $100 a lot more palatable.
@@CDRaff speaking as someone living on a fixed income $100 is a lot to blow on stuff that can be done just as easily by applying a bit of learning and self moderation of what your kids do.
@@Hawk1966 Then it isn't for you and you have a ton of options; why shit on something not made for you?
that's cool, but there is like a way to unlock it to use with a different slicer or with their own slicer but to be able to experiment a bit more? Because I can see an older kid wanting to experiment or tweak the settings a bit to learn more about 3D printing
Love the videos! I’m 15 and I have an creality ender 3 and love printing with it! You should do a review on it. So people like me (somewhat new to 3D printing) can get help
Can you only print models on the app or can you print your own? Inreally just need something thats beginner friendly where I can make small parts to put on packaging
I feel like those prints, while not perfect, were more than good enough for a kid. My daughter would be more than happy with those prints; especially since she would be able to do most of it herself.
I just bought one used an noticed the board has a memory card reader was wondering if i could use it for files instead of using wifi all the time?
Really good introduction for kids
If you ask me $399 for starter kit and $469 dollars for deluxe Toybox 3D printer is nuts.. For a school class room they would be better off using 3D printer like the Creality Ender 3. It's a 3D printer that is used by TON of people around the world so getting help won't be a problem if anything goes wrong. Also parts is widely available for the Creality Ender 3 if you ever need to replace a part on it.
Plus there is the fact I think students would enjoy helping a adult build a 3D printer like the Creality Ender 3.
does it compare to the £205 creative pro though? 22x22cm print platform would surly be better for beginners
That elephant model can actually be really tricky. It was one of the first things I printed on my Ender 3 and I wasn't able to free the legs, they just fused to the body
This is a printer that is perfect for the 'demographic'it is aimed for. Someone who uses an Ultimaker in his factory would not look at this for his second factory printer, and this is not aimed for that market. It is a tool for children to play with making their ideas become reality, a step into the world of CAD.
I love your vids and your the reason I got a printer and if it weren’t for you I would have a bad one
Because of him I also got a good first 3d printer.
Looks like a Createbot Super Mini other than the missing SD card and USB slot in the front. The removable build plate style and the positions of holes on the frame are the same.
Getting this for my boys!
I know this is 4 year old info, but still very helpful. Thank you for your input.
Glad it was helpful!
Look at this sexy beast reviewing 3D printers. Wow, that background looks green screened because it's so sharp 😜
Good video. Adorable looking printer. Not totally convinced by the print quality though. I wish there existed more tiny but solid plug and play printers with focus on print quality not necessary trying to compete on being cheapest to buy. I design many small print-in-place models with a lot of articulation, and a second printer at this size would be really nice to have next to me on the desk. I don't often need a 40x40cm bed. Oh, and I like you new wall!
monoprice minidelta is rock solid.Ntohig to it, small and -- last I checked -- sub 175.oo
If I buy something that makes small plastic parts and I choke on them can I sue?
If the warning is missing yes, but I doubt they would miss something that obvious
It's funny how in America you can sue companys for every unmentioned safety hazard imagineable. But I don't think you can, because you have to make the small plastic parts yourself. If I were to buy a table, cut the wood into small pieces and choke on them, I couldn't sue the company that made the table.
Honestly, if you were a parent with no experience in 3D printing, I would recommend an Ender 3 or something over this. I’d rather spend the same money on something that you can learn together. While great, this printer won’t teach you much about 3D printing, and eventually the print quality will decline. With a bit of tuning, you can get the same experience from an Ender 3, but with a lot more support and virtually no skill ceiling. This would make a great first printer for a kid, yes. But the Ender 3 is a great first printer for everyone, and you can upgrade it out the wazoo.
Anyone who had a Creeper Crawlers machine growing up would know how successful this can be.
Love the new wall!
For a first printer, especially one that works with tablets and phones across wifi, I think it's ideal for kids to enter the world of printing. As you said, second or third printer? Not really, but for kids, big and small, to cut their teeth with the technology, I think it's great. Ideal for schools!
Looks to be a great Kids first Printer
you make the best fun and informative videos joel!
I was expecting this to be really expensive. It's actually a great way to get kids into 3d printing, which leads to design and fabrication which is something that is needed in this world. One thing I cant find is an appropriate age range.
What I am wondering is how easy it is for kids to upload their own models. If it is supposed to inspire kids to make their own toys, I think they should be able to make their own designs too. Possibly something like customizer (on thingiverse) or maybe a tinkerCAD import option. I always found that TinkerCAD was a great way to get kids interested in this stuff.
Otherwise, it would be sorta like giving a kid a coloring book and absolutely no blank paper. Coloring books are fun, but its also fun to freehand your own pictures too.
Otherwise, it seems that the Toybox 3D printer only needs software improvements and less so the hardware.
i could see say 5 of these in a classroom for 6-12 year old kids , its a good introduction and wont cost a school a fortune tbh
Wow amazing
I was showing at a faire this weekend and a dad was trying to explain 3D Printing to his kid. The kid kept repeating: I know this dad!! In many cases kids are already leading the way.
This is very, very true :)
HI, I saw this printer and wanted to see if is worthy to buy it and print ear savers to give away for the health care providers … does anyone knows if this will work for that? thank you.
This is so cool! Thanks for the demo!
Thanks for watching!
Nice Video, the marketing is creative but small prints with kids = choke hazards, so calling filament food may need to be revised. Nice concept just needs to be refined or definitely raise the recommendation on age targets. Loving that wall Joel !! great work !
Hey Joel I was thinking of getting this I’m and adult I was goi g to buy a ender 3 but it might be to hard to set up and use I’m new to 3d printing
Looks like another take on the fabrikator mini/tinyboy printer. Interesting to see the improvements.
Look up the Createbox Super Mini - that's the hardware platform. Quite a decent little machine.
Love the new look!
The problem with the Toybox 3D (sale price $319) is the price point. You can get an Ender 3 pro ($238) and other models for less money.
Dude! Love the new paneling!
Good printer. Also nice shout out to Luke from Out Of Darts. And his crazy print farm.
This next generation of kids & engineers that have access to all these amazing tools is an exciting thought! I just had a whittl’n stick & a dull knife. “Printer Food” is a tad cheesy, but hey if it gets kids into the hobby, who cares what they call it.
Have a question if I buy 3d printer could I print big block that link together take bunch and build a home out those block if so what would be the best printer for that kinda projected ?
Really, any printer can do that - but the size of your blocks is limited to the size of the printer build area :)
It’s hard to tell from their website, but assuming as they are promoting it on shark tank they would be USA based so one would hope support and spare parts should be a lot easier to obtain than the the cheaper Chinese printers.
For new users it should be an important consideration.
Does this printer still not have a part cooling fan?
Can you print flute file on other printers, possibly make bigger?