I like to think that the reason Uhura was able to speedrun relearning everything is that her memories weren’t actually erased, they were just made difficult to access, and she just needed some reminders of how to do things and her life came back to her pretty quickly
Not to mention also; Kirk had a son until he was killed in Star Trek 3, Sulu had a family, Riker and Troy had been married since Nemesis, Spock had an ex-fiance, Janeway also had an ex-fiance, Rom and Leeta are married. There are probably more I may be forgetting.
The Overlooked Family of Star Trek that -I- Overlooked. Maybe he's doing this on purpose so he can make more videos! How DARE he make more content i enjoy.
I feel like Steve missed one of the earlier and more well written things for Keiko, that of her as a school teacher. It didn't seem like much, but her education sub-plots were surprisingly engaging. Plus, her teachings on the wormhole and its alien inhabitants (Prophets to the Bajorans) but her in direct conflict with one of the show's main frienemy/antagonist/villains, Kai Winn. That was some solid writing and showed her strong will and intelligence.
Oh yeah, I'm with you there, a whole video on Keiko would be great. Seriously though, why isn't there a real-life psychologist/psychiatrist Trekkie who analyzes Star Trek characters and does definitive 30 mins thesis videos using episode plots, scenes and quotes to illustrate the reasoning behind the analyses
MLBlue30 it’s pretty pathetic how easily triggered the wingnut snowflakes are. I think they’ve always been like it but sadly these days they feel empowered to spew their bile.
Exactly, if there weren't people who saw it as political is the reason it's a political issue. If we had true equality then there would be nothing remarkable.
Do not forget gays. I just heard Angry Joe say that simply having a trans woman as a playable character in last of us 2 is political. Just HAVING them.
One thing that strikes me as odd is that they could transfer Picards consciousness in to a hastily prepared synth body but they left Data alone in computer memory until he longed for death.
When I first saw the title I thought it was about the old series the episode with the flowers that spit out the spores that make you all docile and carefree.
The thing with Jurati... I feel that once the delusion caused by the mind meld was properly uncovered the whole murder thing was pushed into the "alien influence" thing which in several cases throughout all of the franchise has time and again been used to give both main and one time characters a pass for bad behaviour because it 'wasn't really them'.. That might make a good normal Actually video... "The biggest crimes committed by starfleet officers they were never punished for"
Garak was (rightfully) forgiven mostly Scott free for going all Mike Meyers on people in DS9 as he was the victim of some Cardassian bioengineered virus.
Jurati did declare to assist Soong in penance for killing Maddox. In the place that was Maddox's home world and the people he would most likely consider family. She was judged by the place that had the best jurisdiction. The ship where the murder occurred was in "International Waters/Space", seems to be crewed primarily of Federation citizens, so Federation courts would have been the jurisdiction until the synth home world was recognized diplomatically.
As much as I love Sisko, he certainly committed war crimes chasing Eddington. I always figured he never suffered consequences because considering the players at the time a.) the Cardassians wouldn't care and may of approved a tit for tat bio weapon strike, b.) Starfleet and the Federation might want to sweep it under the rug quickly as they never were 100% rational regarding the Marquis - for an self described 'enlightened' culture, they seemed to take the Marquis' breakaway very personally, and Starfleet officers occasionally jumping ship as very embarrassing and politically problematic.
@@grasssoda9586 it's fine. Trek was never meant to be "cool". I was in the midst of TNG, DS9, and Voyager when they were new and I was never considered cool for being a Trekkie. Then again there was a sci-fi club after school I might have enjoyed but I kind of hated high school and didn't want to be there more than I had to.
Plus it may be expanded upon later in season two. Its possible it'll be classified and she'll receive an unofficial pardon due to extenuating reasons (being coerced, thinking she was following orders and then helping to save the entire galaxy!) and be allowed to either stay with Picard or return home to restart the synthetics division on Earth (since she is the leading scientist. Within Starfleet, of course).
@andromidius Nice thought! I could see Jurati being given a choice between house arrest on Earth or semi-exile on La Sirena as a significantly less severe sentence for the mitigating circumstances surrounding the murder.
Building on that, There's Rios' captain... and how many others, who got similar orders? What about the crew that didn't turn any people in? (I apologize, I don't remember if Rios did or not, or the time frame before his suicide.)
She might be able to use temporary insanity as a defense, considering what was done to her regarding her mind meld. The full blast of the beacon was enough to drive multiple Romulans to suicide, and secondary exposure enough to put a Borg cube on Windows Safe Mode.
As only a pedant will care: the image of the giant "orchids" in Picard did not at all look like orchids. Orchid flowers have certain characteristics that differentiate them from other divisions of the monocots. If anything, the giant flowers looked more like Liliales
A character who has a family mentioned and that actually impacts their personality and choices is B'Elanna Torres (my favorite character tbh). She spends the entire series blaming her personality issues on her Klingon heritage and hating them and her mother all because she didn't know how to process her human father abandoning her. Even to the point where she wants to genetically alter her unborn daughter's DNA so that she is less Klingon because she thinks Tom would be like her father and leave them.
Weird thought I had recently about that. What the doc did is barely legal in the federation (genetic manipulation) but what she was planning is straight up illegal. (Genetic augmentation) (I know their is a more accurate word I just can't find it right now) if she did it and they got back she could be put in jail
"Nobody thought that anybody would be watching this shit 50 years later." That is something that I keep in mind every TOS episode (and most early comic books.)
Don't forget the TOS-episode "Shore Leave", where Bones meets the white rabbit and Alice from "Alice in Wonderland", and Kirk meets Finnegan (an old acquaintance from Kirks academy days). Very silly episode 😆
The thing I love about Star Trek is that every Star Trek series is it's own thing. They are all different shows with their own plots/theme/feelings/look. I don't want a new show that just like TNG, because we got 7 season of TNG. The fact that Discovery and Picard are their own shows and their own take on the universe of Star Trek is a strength, not a weakness. And let us not forget, that EVERY incarnation of Trek past TOS has been met with criticism for not being 'just like' whatever trek had come before. TNG was roasted for not being TOS, DS9 was especially ripped apart by some fans for being the first show Gene Roddenberry had no input on (and doing things that he outright objected too; conflict between main characters for example). Same goes for Voyager, Enterprise, and now Discovery and Picard. People always seem to forget that they are all Star Trek, but they are all very different versions of Star Trek. And all of us are entitled to enjoy them or not, as we see fit.
Yeah, like, despite being set around the same time they went out of their way to make TNG, DS9 and Voyager look different, with different uniform designs and even different looking warp cores. How much should that reasonably have changed over the maybe 10-15 years that sets the beginning of TNG apart from the end of Voyager?
Not to derail but i do wish we had had more of Alexander in DS9. I think the idea of this artistic klingon who sin't good at fighting or other traditionallynklingon things, doesn't fit in well, who still looks for his (very traditionally klingon) dad's approval but doesn't really seem to get it, is very compelling (and, not to make me being an sjw too apparent but I kinda think he and Worf in the episode Sons And Daughters had a very 90's tv "gay son and a military/law enforcement father" dynamic, that I, as a gay person with a kinda traditional father, find very relatable) I think there would have been story oppoturnities for him, but thr fact that they mentiom him twice in the 7 seasons of the show, just makes Worf a kind of a Shit Dad (or even worse than he was in tng)
Space Orchids, Most definitely do belong in Star Trek. We are talking about a show with Planet Killing Cannoli's and Planet sized Space Jellyfish. Yes, IMHO GIant Space Orchids are assuredly Star Trek.
and the Greek God Apollo. For the love of Dennis, there was an episode where the Greek God Apollo manifested a giant green hand and grasped the Enterprise so firmly, but so gently, the Enterprise never forgot that day.
Space orchids and wokeness don't bother me, the gaping plotholes, shallow story, uninspired acting, explosions for the sake of explosions, wasted characters and bad retcons bother me
@@solarisone1082 I think the borg being killed by vacuum felt like unnecessary retcon... lots of other small stuff that doesn't matter all that much, but more importantly, the jad vash having the means they have doesn't gel well with the romulans being refugees... it's not necessarily contradictory but it warrants some explanation. One way to deal with it would have been t make the jad vash vulcan dissidents, which is not completely new to canon at least since discovery.
"Get woke go broke" Which is why original series trek was cancelled after one season and never heard from again. Oh, wait, no. In this fictional reality, when the episode "To Set It Right" of the Lieutenant didn't air, Roddenberry realized there was no profit in his wokeness and never even made trek.
As I get older, I find that the "problem" with enduring franchises like "Star Trek", is that you have multiple shows, created at various times, with different casts, representing a myriad of themes, and a lot of the basic public can't marry the realization that "Star Trek, the franchise" as a long game will always vary in the short term, series to series. Sci-fi has always been a way to address issues within society, and "Star Trek" is no different. What is different are WHICH issues are being addressed in the different series', and how.... i.e. Vietnam War in TOS vs "The War on Terrorism" in DS9, but there has always been SOMETHING being addressed in Star Trek, and there always will be. The show was "punched up" to appease the sensors back in the 60s (The Cage vs Where No Man Has Gone Before), and now, there is less of a need to hide any message within the framework of the story. Now you can just write a very good script and let it do the work. But people seem to forget about how each of these series' fit into the long tradition of Trek; they seem to forget the society that these shows came from and were inspired from. It would be interesting to see what the argument will be in another 60 years from now, but like the one person already pointed out, that's the future, and we'll all be dead anyway.... 😆
Yeah, did they even have mind controlling spores like the ones we see in the TOS episode "This Side of Paradise"? How can we can space faring plants "the most star trek thing ever" if they don't emit spores that can only be defeated by intense emotions?
You forgot the other married couple on DS9, Worf and Jadzia. Sure, their marriage didn't last long because she died at the end of the season but it still counts.
I was 11 - 13 years old and I understood many of the subtexts of the plots of TOS in 1966-69, but then I experienced the Cuban Missile Crisis, the assasination of John Kennedy, the civil rights protests and violent attacks on Freedom Riders in the South, growing unrest about the intensification of the Vietnam war as it unfolded on TV news every night, the riots in the streets in 1967 and 1968, and the assassinations of both Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy all before I was 13!
I've been watching your videos for a while Steve, but this one made me push the Subscribe button. My son and I have been watching all the Trek series in chronological order (as opposed to release order), and really the spirit of the show is the same. Keep on keepin' on!
Lest we forget: from the beginning, Science Fiction has used the settings and situations of future time, alternate timelines, "what-if" situations, etc. to examine who we are, where and when we are now. Many of the TOS stories would not have gotten past the network censors if set in what was then the present. (And some censorship still got through, such as (according to Leonard Nimoy) the notion that Big Business is NEVER the villain.)
Hey Steve, keep up giving a voice to us Trek fans who see the mirror Trek puts before our society throughout the years. Even though we've never met in the TRW, you've become and will always be my friend. 🖖
I will never forgive Picard season 2 if they don’t have his kick ass Romulan housekeeper give him the gears about his synth body like “you couldn’t of gotten a body with more hair, or less wrinkles?”
They could deal with the repercussions of killing Maddox in season 2. The show ends with them leaving the synth planet, so there's no telling what happens when they get back to earth. Was just more convenient for them to have her help them than to lock her in a cell.
I'm expecting that. I think they just ran out of time to handle it. Not sure when they could have fit it in, honestly. Maybe kind of like the Scouring of the Shire for the LOTR films...cut for tone/pacing issues, not for content. I mean they had to tackle Picard's transformation and proceeding to S2, a murder trial or probation or whatever would be a real downer to end the show on, and people are already complaining the show isn't positive / hopeful enough.
So I know this is late, but there was a great conversation about the silliness of Star Trek on Star Trek online when they introduced the Voth to the game. The Voth had dinosaurs with laser beams which some in the fandom decried as absurd and ridiculous like that one dude did with the Orchids. The devs immediately started listing off the absurd shit in various episodes of Star Trek. Long story short: There are dinosaurs with laser beams in STO and it's awesome.
They could make a light hearted episodic show just set it on earth around a Starfleet instructor. You could show him with students and then with his family and the government side of his adult hood without all the baggage of the grand scheme.
The not writing off Keiko was great because we already have a lot of heartbreak concerning families and starfleet officers. Kirks estranged wife and dead son, Dr Crushers dead husband, SIsko's dead wife, Worfs dead baby mama, worfs estranged son, worfs not so dead parents, worfs dead wife, Picards brother.
I think I'll leave a comment like that below every Trek actually video I cross, but as someone who's taken an interest in anarchism and workplace democracy, a new star trek show where starfleet became more democratic, and ditched rigid hierarchies could be a great way to move forward the utopian tradition of star trek.
Unscripted videos are like a conversation in my head. Which is actually more comfortable and fun to watch sometimes. But here is a positive reinfocements, your scipted videos are great! Heck, they can be so great and funny, and deep, some people need so much focus and intellectual capacity to appreciate them. Keep doing both of them!
On the discussion of the holobeings and sentience - would that mean that Moriarty and the Countess would ALSO need to be re-evaluated? They were, essentially, imprisoned without trial, and if he discovered the limits, or if the Doctor discovered the outcome, would he argue for his relative to be freed as well?
When TOS was released on VHS, the episodes were numbered according to production order, and that's the order I got used to watching them. So when the remastered DVD's came out, and they were in broadcast order, I was really confused, and I generally go back and watch the episodes in production order, because I feel the series makes a lot more sense that way.
Also, you allude you Author, Author - what kills me about this episode is that the very fact the publisher enters into a legal contract with The Doctor implies he's legally a person able to do so, and so trying to argue he isn't and has no rights nullifies the original contact in the first place ... that episode always reminds me of TNG's Measure of a Man where they argue Data doesn't have the right to resign from Starfleet, but if he's not a legally recognised person, he wouldn't have been able to consent to join in the first place!
Mr. Shives, I just wanted to say that I really appreciate the videos you make they're entertaining and it's helpful especially in the current environment we find ourselves in right now.
That's an excellent point about people not noticing how political older Trek was because they were children when they watched. I've always thought something similar when people talk about how the world is so horrible now etc etc and how it was so much better when they were young. Well yeah it seemed better when you were young because all the adults in your life shielded you from the stressful truths in the world. All you knew was that you got to play and your mom made you lunch.
I became addicted to TNG when I was a kid (during the third season), and it shaped my politics and mortality more than I shaped its politics and morality in my image.
Steve, you forgot one important aspect of Ben Sisko we saw on the show. We saw him as friend, as father, as boss but also as warcriminal and dangerous psychopath. I don't understand why people just want to see the shiny side of a character! It's part of his story ark. It's part of his personality.
I'd welcome a Sulu series. There were also some lines in some of the books that Sulu became Commandant of the Academy, which also would be an interesting way to explore the character and explore the transition from TOS' gunboat diplomacy to TNG's more diplomatic Starfleet.
As someone who has young kids, I can always stream the old shows with them. It's new to them, and it's fun for me to see their reactions to the shows I grew up with.
Which TOS film bridge look do you like? There were essentially two, the first one with the VASTLY overdesigned but equally beautiful consoles, and the second with the blue "early lcars" okudagram awesomeness??? I personally prefer how it all looked in ST4 with the "Saratoga". The rest of the time, it seemed like the only way to light that damn bridge was not to. lmao :-p
It occurs to me as you talk about how the androids in Picard are so special and indistinguishable from humans that Dr. Soong gave the ST world cylons, or at least skin jobs.
Something i am always confused about is the changing uniforms. Between the cage, DISCO, the start of TOS, the end of TOS, TMP and Star Trek II the uniform design always changed but then we see that Picard still wore the same uniform from wok like 70 years later on the stargazer and with the start of TNG the cycle of changing uniform design start all over again. (sry for the confusing english; not my native language)
They kind of sidestepped the hologram thing too by explaining that all the holograms on La Sirena were using the captain as a "base" for their personality’s. They’re not really independent beings their parts of the captain in a way.
I'm very dismayed when people look at, say, increased representation in Star Trek and call it "woke." As one, myself, not of the cishet persuasion, I very much appreciate it.
I thought of that too, but did it change his character any? No mention was ever made if the contacts were any less painful than his visor was. Geordi did get his sight back in Insurrection but it was only temporary, so he just went back to the way he was.
The most progress a character make in TNG and their movies was Picard. The whole Locutus Event drastically changed Picard. Wesley changed a lot throughout TNG. Barclay did also change throughout the Series. Of the main Cast (Wesley became more of a recurring character than main cast in later series) the characters did not change drastically, but they change. Riker patching things up with his father and coming to terms with his feelings for Diana. Worf confronting his heritage and what being Klingon means to him rather than what most of Klingon society thinks being Klingon means. Datas constant struggle to understand humanity through his relationship with Lore and his father (and "mother") as well as Tasha. Ro being a reluctant Starfleet Officer towards full on rebel in joining the Maquis. Qs growing fascination for humanity and Picard especially. There is character progress, but it's subtle and did no big impact like for example a change of Riker towards taking the promotion towards captaining his own ship would have had, but it is there.
@@RedClaw87 when redletter media criticized ST:Picard, they railed about Picard supposedly disliking children, dismissing character development throughout TNG and especially star trek generations. Some of their criticism I agree with but this in particular was either ignorant of bad faith.
This may sound strange but TNG is as much a product of the 80s as Top gun or an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie was. No, TNG didn't have the hypermasculine, republican vibe of those other things but it did have the enthusiasm and maybe underserved pride of the Reagan era. All the Trek shows are products of their era. TOS had the optimistic outlook towards the future of the 60s. TNG had the arrogance of the 80s, DS9 had the paranoia and angst of the 90s, and the new shows have the existential fear and horror of our current time.
Kevin Thomas Plus the early seasons of TNG get a lot of flack but the show straddles two very different decades of recent American history. The first half of TNG is 80’s TV sci fi and the latter is 90’s TV sci fi.
The three holograms that I can think of that would be considered sentient are The Doctor, Vic Fontaine, and Moriarty. And maybe the girlfriend he created. Not sure if she was as sentient as Moriarty o not.
33:34 ...Okay, I MUST highlight this here, because this is something I really, REALLY want as well... 33:34 Patrick Dodds, you are not alone; I resonate with your comment.
Hi Steve, For Uhura, maybe it was more like aphasia. All her neural pathways were there, but her brain didn't know what to do with it. Bone had just to rearrange her neural pathways and voila. Keep up the good work
I grew up with TNG and DS9 as a kid. TNG especially shaped my thinking and is probably a big reason why I'm pretty liberal. Picard's moral compass in the show as well as the rest of the crew helped shape my own. I don't think the subtext or text of Star Trek is lost on children, I think it is more that they don't have a political identity yet for it to actively clash with so they don't view it as political. I think with TOS specifically, it was also a very different time, what were progressive messages then have not always aged well. So people who identified with that show could lean more conservative now.
Most of the character development of the older characters I liked, except 7 of 9. She was basically a completely different character. So different and with no real continuity of character that it feels like they just had another character and decided to lay her backstory and name on top of it because they knew she would pull in more audience.
I was wondering about that too. did Steve even hear it? He showed no reaction to it at all. How did it get in the video, wouldn't he have noticed it before it was uploaded?
Excellent explanation on the getting away with murder thing. It reminds me of Sisko calling out Picard on DS9 episode 1... I know there isn't much connection there, I just loved that Sisko - Picard interaction... And I like talking about DS9.
Steve, your scripted videos are great, so keep making them! I think people just enjoy listening to you and your personality and enthusiasm for the material really shines when you're improvising it. I suppose that's a long way off saying we like you ❤
The scripted essays and comment responses bring different things to the table, and I enjoy both. The essays have an expressiveness and insightfulness that make me care about a franchise I've only watched a little bit of. And the comment responses explore lots of interesting topics that don't necessarily merit full essays--plus, they're a chance to laugh at some of the ding dongs who are mad on the internet, which is always fun.
Question: Is Short Treks considered as a spin-off? sure its mostly Discovery era stuff, but not all of it. Yet if anyone lists the spin-offs they tend not to mention the Short Treks, they are treated as "promotional" or "extra" like the short form web spin-offs of primetime shows we used to get eg Doctor Who: TARDISodes.
Regarding holographic beings, are we to assume that the scientists of the federation after Voyager's return never took the Doctor's mobile holo-emitter from the future and attempted to learn how it works or replicate the technology, and that all of the holograms are still limited to specific locations?
My favorites are your scripted episodes, but I also love the non scripted discussions. Basically, I just like good Star Trek analysis, but I do appreciate the thought and organization that goes into your scripted work. It's kind of nice to have both so keep up the good work!
For a future comment response video (maybe): Do you think of yourself as a Trekkie, a Trekker, or do you not really subscribe to labels? Also, you're awesome; love your vids 😊❤️
For a serious thought on your funny thought, I believe that it is the balance of your Actuallys along with the Not Actuallys that give strength to both formats. If it was all just one or the other, the presentation would inevitably flatten out to feel repetitive, but each style helps to support and feed off of the other to keep both continuously feeling fresh and compelling. As for why you're seeing more apparent enthusiasm for the Not Actuallys, I can't speak for everyone else of course, but for as much as I enjoy and appreciate your openness and positivity, I at least equally enjoy the finely-crafted shade that you throw back to the asshole commentators. Thanks for what you do, keep up the good work!
I know this isn't what the comment meant, but I thought I'd mention it anyway. The "space orchids" may have been inspired by an episode of The Twilight Zone called "Specimen: Unknown", where extraterrestrial flowering plants spray spores and a deadly gas at the astronauts. If so, the makers of Trek repurposed that idea to make a statement of their own, and so did indeed make a very "Star Trek" thing out of it. Also: I love your unscripted videos, but the scripted ones even more! Keep up the awesome work! 🖖😁
An interesting counterpoint to the 'wasted potential' video is to work out which Trek character best fulfilled their potential, who had a complete arc, and were the most three dimensional ..It's Sisko isn't it?
Least used character: the Enterprise D. With the massive main shuttle bay and a bazillion transporters. Oh hey! Nice planet you ha e there. Enjoy the 300 guys taking over. But sisko wasn't in charge. Oh, your planet is in peril from whatever? Just beam everyone up , hang out in the halls for a bit and go back into business.
Steve, one thing I would love the Picard series to explore would be how the people we have met through TNG, DS9 , and voyager have progressed. Interactions between all three cast would interesting. I think it was a big missed opportunity during the TNG era of movies. All three shows were part of the same extended universe. Your thoughts would be appreciated.
I for one enjoy both your scripted and your rambling videos...I absolutely adore the "Steve and Stuffy" ones! Hans' German accent is adorably accurate!
Honestly, as much as a part of me is bummed that I can't watch Discovery or Picard with my 9 year old, I'm enjoying introducing her to older Trek and taking the time to establish the universe from the beginning. By the time we get through all of that, I figure she'll be old enough for newer Trek. And in the meantime, the animated Trek that is on the horizon looks like it'll be totally appropriate for her as well.
One of the things I love about MST3K is that in the opening song, they specifically say not to even think about the scientific facts because it's just a tv show
You are great Steve! You make some of the best Star Trek content and TH-cam content in general. From a fellow progressive liberal internet nerd type person, keep up the good work!
My wife and I are going to give _Discovery_ another chance during quarantine. I bounced off it when it came out, but your ardent support for the show has convinced me that maybe I missed something. Thanks for making such great videos!
0:57 If it helps any, Steve? Your unscripted work isn't _the same kind_ of good as your scripted work. They're both good for what they are, but they are still on completely different _scales_ of good. Now, because we're both trek nerds here, think of it like relativistic propulsion versus warp drive: Sure, you have impulse engines for small hops and they _might_ get the job done for longer journeys at an increased cost in time, but if you _have_ warp drive then why _not_ use that for those longer trips _instead_ of your impulse engines?
I recognized that TOS was "woke" when I was a kid and saw it first-run, and I fully approved, even as a ten-year-old. Of course, my parents were Christian Socialists. They saw TOS as a bit too conservative.
Speaking on holographic beings and it being a blindspot that might still need to be addressed- Id love to see episodes or even a season where thats the focus, especially if they bring back the Doctor in his 'old' age. Him, being old now just being a choice he made to alter his appearance to be more in line with the human condition
The Uhura relearning episode (with Nomad) - I always assumed that Nomad just sort of broke the connections in her mind, and the 'relearning' was just helping her make those old connections again. Instead of smoothing her brain, he just sort of overloaded it so that she couldn't access anything. The work was allowing her to redo the connections.
As a fellow video making human, The first 60 seconds of this video are the most relatable thing ever.
I like to think that the reason Uhura was able to speedrun relearning everything is that her memories weren’t actually erased, they were just made difficult to access, and she just needed some reminders of how to do things and her life came back to her pretty quickly
Worf and Jadzia: Was our marriage a joke to you?
ALEXANDER!!!!’
Not to mention also; Kirk had a son until he was killed in Star Trek 3, Sulu had a family, Riker and Troy had been married since Nemesis, Spock had an ex-fiance, Janeway also had an ex-fiance, Rom and Leeta are married. There are probably more I may be forgetting.
I was thinking the SAME thing!
The Overlooked Family of Star Trek that -I- Overlooked. Maybe he's doing this on purpose so he can make more videos! How DARE he make more content i enjoy.
Tom Paris and B'elanna Torres get married and have a daughter. Phlox on Enterprise had three wives.
Doctor Beverly also failed to get a mention.
I feel like Steve missed one of the earlier and more well written things for Keiko, that of her as a school teacher. It didn't seem like much, but her education sub-plots were surprisingly engaging. Plus, her teachings on the wormhole and its alien inhabitants (Prophets to the Bajorans) but her in direct conflict with one of the show's main frienemy/antagonist/villains, Kai Winn. That was some solid writing and showed her strong will and intelligence.
He do a whole video about this.
I enjoyed those too, Keikio had a great part in the last episode of the first season of DS9.
Oh yeah, I'm with you there, a whole video on Keiko would be great. Seriously though, why isn't there a real-life psychologist/psychiatrist Trekkie who analyzes Star Trek characters and does definitive 30 mins thesis videos using episode plots, scenes and quotes to illustrate the reasoning behind the analyses
What about RoLaren,, she was a great character that was underused. Her and Picard scene was pure gold when they butted heads.
That bit about women and PoC being inherently political is as accurate as it is depressing.
Basically, if you are not a white American male, you are political.
MLBlue30 it’s pretty pathetic how easily triggered the wingnut snowflakes are. I think they’ve always been like it but sadly these days they feel empowered to spew their bile.
Exactly, if there weren't people who saw it as political is the reason it's a political issue. If we had true equality then there would be nothing remarkable.
Do not forget gays. I just heard Angry Joe say that simply having a trans woman as a playable character in last of us 2 is political. Just HAVING them.
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One thing that strikes me as odd is that they could transfer Picards consciousness in to a hastily prepared synth body but they left Data alone in computer memory until he longed for death.
Brilliant episode of "Not Actually Trek, Actually." I so enjoy when Steve goes salty. He's far sweeter in those instances than I would be.
tbh the giant space orchids felt more like classic Trek 60s weirdness than anything we've seen in the franchise since TNG
What about giant space crystals that zap people through space?
Do not forget the space jellies from TNG pilot
@@fernandanogales4824 And they were pink and blue so you knew they were a boy-girl couple.
“This Side of Paradise” season one TOS
When I first saw the title I thought it was about the old series the episode with the flowers that spit out the spores that make you all docile and carefree.
i like these 'not actually' videos but no worries, I like the scripted ones way better. BOOM! positive reinforcement!
Nope, you muddied the waters too much, Steve's moving to Fortnite now.
O'Brien didn't just get one significant other, he also had Bashir
The thing with Jurati... I feel that once the delusion caused by the mind meld was properly uncovered the whole murder thing was pushed into the "alien influence" thing which in several cases throughout all of the franchise has time and again been used to give both main and one time characters a pass for bad behaviour because it 'wasn't really them'.. That might make a good normal Actually video... "The biggest crimes committed by starfleet officers they were never punished for"
Garak was (rightfully) forgiven mostly Scott free for going all Mike Meyers on people in DS9 as he was the victim of some Cardassian bioengineered virus.
Jurati did declare to assist Soong in penance for killing Maddox. In the place that was Maddox's home world and the people he would most likely consider family. She was judged by the place that had the best jurisdiction. The ship where the murder occurred was in "International Waters/Space", seems to be crewed primarily of Federation citizens, so Federation courts would have been the jurisdiction until the synth home world was recognized diplomatically.
As much as I love Sisko, he certainly committed war crimes chasing Eddington. I always figured he never suffered consequences because considering the players at the time a.) the Cardassians wouldn't care and may of approved a tit for tat bio weapon strike, b.) Starfleet and the Federation might want to sweep it under the rug quickly as they never were 100% rational regarding the Marquis - for an self described 'enlightened' culture, they seemed to take the Marquis' breakaway very personally, and Starfleet officers occasionally jumping ship as very embarrassing and politically problematic.
Chief O'Brien is the only enlisted person in Star Fleet
It's been a while since I watch ST:VOY, but didn't the Maquis get enlisted rank when incorporated into the crew?
At least the only one we actually get to know.
I was introduced to Trek as a kid. Now many years later it's one of three main aspects of my personality
What are the other two?
Kayleigh Bourquin, Rooster Teeth & Marching Band (and bonus: Midwestern Nice™)
Same it's hard to make friends at my age (15) because of it, no one my age is into Star Trek these days
@@grasssoda9586 it's fine. Trek was never meant to be "cool". I was in the midst of TNG, DS9, and Voyager when they were new and I was never considered cool for being a Trekkie. Then again there was a sci-fi club after school I might have enjoyed but I kind of hated high school and didn't want to be there more than I had to.
Starfleet couldn't put Jarati on trial without exposing that their entire security division was a Tal Shiar puppet.
Plus it may be expanded upon later in season two. Its possible it'll be classified and she'll receive an unofficial pardon due to extenuating reasons (being coerced, thinking she was following orders and then helping to save the entire galaxy!) and be allowed to either stay with Picard or return home to restart the synthetics division on Earth (since she is the leading scientist. Within Starfleet, of course).
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Nice thought! I could see Jurati being given a choice between house arrest on Earth or semi-exile on La Sirena as a significantly less severe sentence for the mitigating circumstances surrounding the murder.
Building on that, There's Rios' captain... and how many others, who got similar orders? What about the crew that didn't turn any people in? (I apologize, I don't remember if Rios did or not, or the time frame before his suicide.)
She might be able to use temporary insanity as a defense, considering what was done to her regarding her mind meld. The full blast of the beacon was enough to drive multiple Romulans to suicide, and secondary exposure enough to put a Borg cube on Windows Safe Mode.
@@Kameth I laughed way harder than I should have on the Borg one. Well played.
As only a pedant will care: the image of the giant "orchids" in Picard did not at all look like orchids. Orchid flowers have certain characteristics that differentiate them from other divisions of the monocots. If anything, the giant flowers looked more like Liliales
Therefore giant lilies are the most Star Trek Thing ever
A character who has a family mentioned and that actually impacts their personality and choices is B'Elanna Torres (my favorite character tbh). She spends the entire series blaming her personality issues on her Klingon heritage and hating them and her mother all because she didn't know how to process her human father abandoning her. Even to the point where she wants to genetically alter her unborn daughter's DNA so that she is less Klingon because she thinks Tom would be like her father and leave them.
Weird thought I had recently about that. What the doc did is barely legal in the federation (genetic manipulation) but what she was planning is straight up illegal. (Genetic augmentation) (I know their is a more accurate word I just can't find it right now) if she did it and they got back she could be put in jail
That was one asshole father.
@@Beacuzz No genetic Augmentation is the word, augments come from it
"Nobody thought that anybody would be watching this shit 50 years later." That is something that I keep in mind every TOS episode (and most early comic books.)
Don't forget the TOS-episode "Shore Leave", where Bones meets the white rabbit and Alice from "Alice in Wonderland", and Kirk meets Finnegan (an old acquaintance from Kirks academy days). Very silly episode 😆
Or the giant space jellyfish in "Encounter at Farpoint".
@@arbjbornk yup some silliness right out of the gate there.
The thing I love about Star Trek is that every Star Trek series is it's own thing. They are all different shows with their own plots/theme/feelings/look. I don't want a new show that just like TNG, because we got 7 season of TNG. The fact that Discovery and Picard are their own shows and their own take on the universe of Star Trek is a strength, not a weakness. And let us not forget, that EVERY incarnation of Trek past TOS has been met with criticism for not being 'just like' whatever trek had come before. TNG was roasted for not being TOS, DS9 was especially ripped apart by some fans for being the first show Gene Roddenberry had no input on (and doing things that he outright objected too; conflict between main characters for example). Same goes for Voyager, Enterprise, and now Discovery and Picard. People always seem to forget that they are all Star Trek, but they are all very different versions of Star Trek. And all of us are entitled to enjoy them or not, as we see fit.
Yeah, like, despite being set around the same time they went out of their way to make TNG, DS9 and Voyager look different, with different uniform designs and even different looking warp cores. How much should that reasonably have changed over the maybe 10-15 years that sets the beginning of TNG apart from the end of Voyager?
Ummmm, Worf had a “home life” on both TNG and DS9.
They showed his relationship with his son on both shows plus with how he courted and married Jadzia
@@ArgonTheAware Well, that's what Steve gets for not preparing I guess. He forgot Worf, Jadzia, and Alexander.
And his adoptive parents? A whole episode about them and talking about his childhood.
Not to derail but i do wish we had had more of Alexander in DS9. I think the idea of this artistic klingon who sin't good at fighting or other traditionallynklingon things, doesn't fit in well, who still looks for his (very traditionally klingon) dad's approval but doesn't really seem to get it, is very compelling (and, not to make me being an sjw too apparent but I kinda think he and Worf in the episode Sons And Daughters had a very 90's tv "gay son and a military/law enforcement father" dynamic, that I, as a gay person with a kinda traditional father, find very relatable)
I think there would have been story oppoturnities for him, but thr fact that they mentiom him twice in the 7 seasons of the show, just makes Worf a kind of a Shit Dad (or even worse than he was in tng)
Don’t forget Tom Paris and B’Larna Torres too
Also Tom Paris and B'Elanna Torres
got married
And Worf and Dax. Trip and T'pol. Damar and Dukat are also both married men, though we never see either of their families.
Oh! And Rom and Leeta!
Also Worf and Jadzia.
255ad and had a baby.
@@TheAlmostOtaku yes! She had a fiance named Mark haha
@@TheAlmostOtaku Yes, I think so.
Space Orchids, Most definitely do belong in Star Trek. We are talking about a show with Planet Killing Cannoli's and Planet sized Space Jellyfish. Yes, IMHO GIant Space Orchids are assuredly Star Trek.
and the Greek God Apollo. For the love of Dennis, there was an episode where the Greek God Apollo manifested a giant green hand and grasped the Enterprise so firmly, but so gently, the Enterprise never forgot that day.
Space orchids and wokeness don't bother me, the gaping plotholes, shallow story, uninspired acting, explosions for the sake of explosions, wasted characters and bad retcons bother me
@@barneyrubble4293: You must be talking about Discovery, 'cause I didn't see much of that in Picard.
@@barneyrubble4293 Same.
@@solarisone1082 I think the borg being killed by vacuum felt like unnecessary retcon... lots of other small stuff that doesn't matter all that much, but more importantly, the jad vash having the means they have doesn't gel well with the romulans being refugees... it's not necessarily contradictory but it warrants some explanation.
One way to deal with it would have been t make the jad vash vulcan dissidents, which is not completely new to canon at least since discovery.
"Get woke go broke"
Which is why original series trek was cancelled after one season and never heard from again. Oh, wait, no. In this fictional reality, when the episode "To Set It Right" of the Lieutenant didn't air, Roddenberry realized there was no profit in his wokeness and never even made trek.
Yeoman Rand's first appearance onscreen wasn't in 'Charlie X', but in 'The Man Trap', the first episode that aired.
As I get older, I find that the "problem" with enduring franchises like "Star Trek", is that you have multiple shows, created at various times, with different casts, representing a myriad of themes, and a lot of the basic public can't marry the realization that "Star Trek, the franchise" as a long game will always vary in the short term, series to series. Sci-fi has always been a way to address issues within society, and "Star Trek" is no different.
What is different are WHICH issues are being addressed in the different series', and how.... i.e. Vietnam War in TOS vs "The War on Terrorism" in DS9, but there has always been SOMETHING being addressed in Star Trek, and there always will be.
The show was "punched up" to appease the sensors back in the 60s (The Cage vs Where No Man Has Gone Before), and now, there is less of a need to hide any message within the framework of the story. Now you can just write a very good script and let it do the work. But people seem to forget about how each of these series' fit into the long tradition of Trek; they seem to forget the society that these shows came from and were inspired from.
It would be interesting to see what the argument will be in another 60 years from now, but like the one person already pointed out, that's the future, and we'll all be dead anyway.... 😆
Maybe Space Orchids weren't absurd ENOUGH to class as "The Most Star Trek Thing Ever" for Mr Scalf? :D
Too true: they come nowhere close to Tom Paris and Janeway evolving into salamanders and having babies after traveling at Warp 10.
Yeah, did they even have mind controlling spores like the ones we see in the TOS episode "This Side of Paradise"? How can we can space faring plants "the most star trek thing ever" if they don't emit spores that can only be defeated by intense emotions?
You forgot the other married couple on DS9, Worf and Jadzia. Sure, their marriage didn't last long because she died at the end of the season but it still counts.
I was 11 - 13 years old and I understood many of the subtexts of the plots of TOS in 1966-69, but then I experienced the Cuban Missile Crisis, the assasination of John Kennedy, the civil rights protests and violent attacks on Freedom Riders in the South, growing unrest about the intensification of the Vietnam war as it unfolded on TV news every night, the riots in the streets in 1967 and 1968, and the assassinations of both Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy all before I was 13!
I've been watching your videos for a while Steve, but this one made me push the Subscribe button.
My son and I have been watching all the Trek series in chronological order (as opposed to release order), and really the spirit of the show is the same. Keep on keepin' on!
Lest we forget: from the beginning, Science Fiction has used the settings and situations of future time, alternate timelines, "what-if" situations, etc. to examine who we are, where and when we are now. Many of the TOS stories would not have gotten past the network censors if set in what was then the present. (And some censorship still got through, such as (according to Leonard Nimoy) the notion that Big Business is NEVER the villain.)
Hey Steve, keep up giving a voice to us Trek fans who see the mirror Trek puts before our society throughout the years. Even though we've never met in the TRW, you've become and will always be my friend. 🖖
I will never forgive Picard season 2 if they don’t have his kick ass Romulan housekeeper give him the gears about his synth body like “you couldn’t of gotten a body with more hair, or less wrinkles?”
I, too, often think about the fact that Star Trek happens when I'm long dead. It's a nearly constant internal monologue every time I watch the show 😂
They could deal with the repercussions of killing Maddox in season 2. The show ends with them leaving the synth planet, so there's no telling what happens when they get back to earth. Was just more convenient for them to have her help them than to lock her in a cell.
I'm expecting that. I think they just ran out of time to handle it. Not sure when they could have fit it in, honestly. Maybe kind of like the Scouring of the Shire for the LOTR films...cut for tone/pacing issues, not for content. I mean they had to tackle Picard's transformation and proceeding to S2, a murder trial or probation or whatever would be a real downer to end the show on, and people are already complaining the show isn't positive / hopeful enough.
Space orchids are awesome. Dumb of them to have so few when they are so fragile, but the idea of them is ABSOLUTELY Star Trek.
So I know this is late, but there was a great conversation about the silliness of Star Trek on Star Trek online when they introduced the Voth to the game. The Voth had dinosaurs with laser beams which some in the fandom decried as absurd and ridiculous like that one dude did with the Orchids. The devs immediately started listing off the absurd shit in various episodes of Star Trek. Long story short: There are dinosaurs with laser beams in STO and it's awesome.
They could make a light hearted episodic show just set it on earth around a Starfleet instructor. You could show him with students and then with his family and the government side of his adult hood without all the baggage of the grand scheme.
The not writing off Keiko was great because we already have a lot of heartbreak concerning families and starfleet officers. Kirks estranged wife and dead son, Dr Crushers dead husband, SIsko's dead wife, Worfs dead baby mama, worfs estranged son, worfs not so dead parents, worfs dead wife, Picards brother.
also worf's faked dead brother with medically induced amnesia...dang, worf has a lot of reasons to be angry
I can understand wanting a more optimistic Star Trek, especially given the state of the world, and maybe the Captain Pike spin-off will be that show.
I think I'll leave a comment like that below every Trek actually video I cross, but as someone who's taken an interest in anarchism and workplace democracy, a new star trek show where starfleet became more democratic, and ditched rigid hierarchies could be a great way to move forward the utopian tradition of star trek.
@@maximeteppe7627
But then we'd lose the Evil Admiral stereotype.
Unscripted videos are like a conversation in my head. Which is actually more comfortable and fun to watch sometimes. But here is a positive reinfocements, your scipted videos are great! Heck, they can be so great and funny, and deep, some people need so much focus and intellectual capacity to appreciate them. Keep doing both of them!
On the discussion of the holobeings and sentience - would that mean that Moriarty and the Countess would ALSO need to be re-evaluated? They were, essentially, imprisoned without trial, and if he discovered the limits, or if the Doctor discovered the outcome, would he argue for his relative to be freed as well?
When TOS was released on VHS, the episodes were numbered according to production order, and that's the order I got used to watching them. So when the remastered DVD's came out, and they were in broadcast order, I was really confused, and I generally go back and watch the episodes in production order, because I feel the series makes a lot more sense that way.
Also, you allude you Author, Author - what kills me about this episode is that the very fact the publisher enters into a legal contract with The Doctor implies he's legally a person able to do so, and so trying to argue he isn't and has no rights nullifies the original contact in the first place ... that episode always reminds me of TNG's Measure of a Man where they argue Data doesn't have the right to resign from Starfleet, but if he's not a legally recognised person, he wouldn't have been able to consent to join in the first place!
Mr. Shives, I just wanted to say that I really appreciate the videos you make they're entertaining and it's helpful especially in the current environment we find ourselves in right now.
Keiko divorcing Miles? That'll ruin Data's Day
That's an excellent point about people not noticing how political older Trek was because they were children when they watched. I've always thought something similar when people talk about how the world is so horrible now etc etc and how it was so much better when they were young. Well yeah it seemed better when you were young because all the adults in your life shielded you from the stressful truths in the world. All you knew was that you got to play and your mom made you lunch.
I became addicted to TNG when I was a kid (during the third season), and it shaped my politics and mortality more than I shaped its politics and morality in my image.
Steve, you forgot one important aspect of Ben Sisko we saw on the show. We saw him as friend, as father, as boss but also as warcriminal and dangerous psychopath. I don't understand why people just want to see the shiny side of a character! It's part of his story ark. It's part of his personality.
I'd welcome a Sulu series. There were also some lines in some of the books that Sulu became Commandant of the Academy, which also would be an interesting way to explore the character and explore the transition from TOS' gunboat diplomacy to TNG's more diplomatic Starfleet.
As someone who has young kids, I can always stream the old shows with them. It's new to them, and it's fun for me to see their reactions to the shows I grew up with.
I laughed out loud when your Captain Picard slid into Mr Bean and said "Don't murder anyone else!"
Which TOS film bridge look do you like? There were essentially two, the first one with the VASTLY overdesigned but equally beautiful consoles, and the second with the blue "early lcars" okudagram awesomeness??? I personally prefer how it all looked in ST4 with the "Saratoga". The rest of the time, it seemed like the only way to light that damn bridge was not to. lmao :-p
A character that could have used some more time? Lon Suder, the murderer from Voyager. Keeping him around longer would have been interesting.
It occurs to me as you talk about how the androids in Picard are so special and indistinguishable from humans that Dr. Soong gave the ST world cylons, or at least skin jobs.
It's interesting how Star Trek's view of uploaded consciences have change from What Little Girls Are Made Of? episode to Picard.
Something i am always confused about is the changing uniforms. Between the cage, DISCO, the start of TOS, the end of TOS, TMP and Star Trek II the uniform design always changed but then we see that Picard still wore the same uniform from wok like 70 years later on the stargazer and with the start of TNG the cycle of changing uniform design start all over again. (sry for the confusing english; not my native language)
They kind of sidestepped the hologram thing too by explaining that all the holograms on La Sirena were using the captain as a "base" for their personality’s. They’re not really independent beings their parts of the captain in a way.
That has to be the most... Unique... Picard accent I have ever heard ;)
I'm very dismayed when people look at, say, increased representation in Star Trek and call it "woke."
As one, myself, not of the cishet persuasion, I very much appreciate it.
39:40 The most progress any TNG character made in the TNG movies was Geordie's Vision gadgets
I thought of that too, but did it change his character any? No mention was ever made if the contacts were any less painful than his visor was. Geordi did get his sight back in Insurrection but it was only temporary, so he just went back to the way he was.
The most progress a character make in TNG and their movies was Picard. The whole Locutus Event drastically changed Picard. Wesley changed a lot throughout TNG. Barclay did also change throughout the Series. Of the main Cast (Wesley became more of a recurring character than main cast in later series) the characters did not change drastically, but they change. Riker patching things up with his father and coming to terms with his feelings for Diana. Worf confronting his heritage and what being Klingon means to him rather than what most of Klingon society thinks being Klingon means. Datas constant struggle to understand humanity through his relationship with Lore and his father (and "mother") as well as Tasha. Ro being a reluctant Starfleet Officer towards full on rebel in joining the Maquis. Qs growing fascination for humanity and Picard especially. There is character progress, but it's subtle and did no big impact like for example a change of Riker towards taking the promotion towards captaining his own ship would have had, but it is there.
@@RedClaw87 when redletter media criticized ST:Picard, they railed about Picard supposedly disliking children, dismissing character development throughout TNG and especially star trek generations. Some of their criticism I agree with but this in particular was either ignorant of bad faith.
I love it when he responds to dumb ass comments.
This may sound strange but TNG is as much a product of the 80s as Top gun or an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie was. No, TNG didn't have the hypermasculine, republican vibe of those other things but it did have the enthusiasm and maybe underserved pride of the Reagan era. All the Trek shows are products of their era. TOS had the optimistic outlook towards the future of the 60s. TNG had the arrogance of the 80s, DS9 had the paranoia and angst of the 90s, and the new shows have the existential fear and horror of our current time.
Kevin Thomas Plus the early seasons of TNG get a lot of flack but the show straddles two very different decades of recent American history. The first half of TNG is 80’s TV sci fi and the latter is 90’s TV sci fi.
The three holograms that I can think of that would be considered sentient are The Doctor, Vic Fontaine, and Moriarty. And maybe the girlfriend he created. Not sure if she was as sentient as Moriarty o not.
She was. When she spoke to Picard, she all but flat out said it
33:34 ...Okay, I MUST highlight this here, because this is something I really, REALLY want as well... 33:34
Patrick Dodds, you are not alone; I resonate with your comment.
Hi Steve,
For Uhura, maybe it was more like aphasia. All her neural pathways were there, but her brain didn't know what to do with it. Bone had just to rearrange her neural pathways and voila.
Keep up the good work
I grew up with TNG and DS9 as a kid. TNG especially shaped my thinking and is probably a big reason why I'm pretty liberal. Picard's moral compass in the show as well as the rest of the crew helped shape my own. I don't think the subtext or text of Star Trek is lost on children, I think it is more that they don't have a political identity yet for it to actively clash with so they don't view it as political. I think with TOS specifically, it was also a very different time, what were progressive messages then have not always aged well. So people who identified with that show could lean more conservative now.
Most of the character development of the older characters I liked, except 7 of 9. She was basically a completely different character. So different and with no real continuity of character that it feels like they just had another character and decided to lay her backstory and name on top of it because they knew she would pull in more audience.
What the hell was that noise at 15:00? Scared the hell out of me.
I was wondering about that too. did Steve even hear it? He showed no reaction to it at all. How did it get in the video, wouldn't he have noticed it before it was uploaded?
I think it was a noisy car outside.
A g-g-g-ghost.
Loud pipes save lives!
Steve passed gas and hoped his mic wouldn't pick it up 😂
worf and dax got married and rom and lita got married. so miles wasnt the only one with a significant other.
Excellent explanation on the getting away with murder thing. It reminds me of Sisko calling out Picard on DS9 episode 1... I know there isn't much connection there, I just loved that Sisko - Picard interaction... And I like talking about DS9.
Steve, I'm digging the grey streaks in the beard. You're looking more and more like Riker every video.
He looks like a sexy badger!
Steve, your scripted videos are great, so keep making them! I think people just enjoy listening to you and your personality and enthusiasm for the material really shines when you're improvising it. I suppose that's a long way off saying we like you ❤
The scripted essays and comment responses bring different things to the table, and I enjoy both. The essays have an expressiveness and insightfulness that make me care about a franchise I've only watched a little bit of. And the comment responses explore lots of interesting topics that don't necessarily merit full essays--plus, they're a chance to laugh at some of the ding dongs who are mad on the internet, which is always fun.
Question: Is Short Treks considered as a spin-off? sure its mostly Discovery era stuff, but not all of it. Yet if anyone lists the spin-offs they tend not to mention the Short Treks, they are treated as "promotional" or "extra" like the short form web spin-offs of primetime shows we used to get eg Doctor Who: TARDISodes.
So far, I consider them part of Discovery.
Ah man, I was hoping Steve would have brought up the inflatable Enterprise from the animated series. I so want to believe that it's cannon.
I thought ST:Picard is one of the few shows that got its act together in its first season.
Regarding holographic beings, are we to assume that the scientists of the federation after Voyager's return never took the Doctor's mobile holo-emitter from the future and attempted to learn how it works or replicate the technology, and that all of the holograms are still limited to specific locations?
My favorites are your scripted episodes, but I also love the non scripted discussions. Basically, I just like good Star Trek analysis, but I do appreciate the thought and organization that goes into your scripted work. It's kind of nice to have both so keep up the good work!
For a future comment response video (maybe):
Do you think of yourself as a Trekkie, a Trekker, or do you not really subscribe to labels?
Also, you're awesome; love your vids 😊❤️
For a serious thought on your funny thought, I believe that it is the balance of your Actuallys along with the Not Actuallys that give strength to both formats. If it was all just one or the other, the presentation would inevitably flatten out to feel repetitive, but each style helps to support and feed off of the other to keep both continuously feeling fresh and compelling.
As for why you're seeing more apparent enthusiasm for the Not Actuallys, I can't speak for everyone else of course, but for as much as I enjoy and appreciate your openness and positivity, I at least equally enjoy the finely-crafted shade that you throw back to the asshole commentators. Thanks for what you do, keep up the good work!
14:57 What is going on with the audio???
I know this isn't what the comment meant, but I thought I'd mention it anyway. The "space orchids" may have been inspired by an episode of The Twilight Zone called "Specimen: Unknown", where extraterrestrial flowering plants spray spores and a deadly gas at the astronauts. If so, the makers of Trek repurposed that idea to make a statement of their own, and so did indeed make a very "Star Trek" thing out of it.
Also: I love your unscripted videos, but the scripted ones even more! Keep up the awesome work! 🖖😁
An interesting counterpoint to the 'wasted potential' video is to work out which Trek character best fulfilled their potential, who had a complete arc, and were the most three dimensional
..It's Sisko isn't it?
Least used character: the Enterprise D. With the massive main shuttle bay and a bazillion transporters. Oh hey! Nice planet you ha e there. Enjoy the 300 guys taking over. But sisko wasn't in charge. Oh, your planet is in peril from whatever? Just beam everyone up , hang out in the halls for a bit and go back into business.
Steve, one thing I would love the Picard series to explore would be how the people we have met through TNG, DS9 , and voyager have progressed. Interactions between all three cast would interesting. I think it was a big missed opportunity during the TNG era of movies. All three shows were part of the same extended universe. Your thoughts would be appreciated.
Have you not done a Trek, Actually about Winn Adami? Would love to hear your thoughts.
Space!Umbridge.
Hurrah! I finally made it into a Not Actually Trek Actually! And for once I am not the one saying "Damn, wish I had written that!"
Oops. I think you read one of my long rambling comments once before. But this one was pithy and funny, so I'll just pretend it is the first time.
I for one enjoy both your scripted and your rambling videos...I absolutely adore the "Steve and Stuffy" ones! Hans' German accent is adorably accurate!
Honestly, as much as a part of me is bummed that I can't watch Discovery or Picard with my 9 year old, I'm enjoying introducing her to older Trek and taking the time to establish the universe from the beginning. By the time we get through all of that, I figure she'll be old enough for newer Trek. And in the meantime, the animated Trek that is on the horizon looks like it'll be totally appropriate for her as well.
Steve, it's more that we enjoy you and your takes. It's nice seeing them raw and unrefined.
One of the things I love about MST3K is that in the opening song, they specifically say not to even think about the scientific facts because it's just a tv show
You are great Steve! You make some of the best Star Trek content and TH-cam content in general. From a fellow progressive liberal internet nerd type person, keep up the good work!
“Fuck you too buddy!” My favorite line.
My wife and I are going to give _Discovery_ another chance during quarantine. I bounced off it when it came out, but your ardent support for the show has convinced me that maybe I missed something. Thanks for making such great videos!
0:57 If it helps any, Steve? Your unscripted work isn't _the same kind_ of good as your scripted work. They're both good for what they are, but they are still on completely different _scales_ of good. Now, because we're both trek nerds here, think of it like relativistic propulsion versus warp drive: Sure, you have impulse engines for small hops and they _might_ get the job done for longer journeys at an increased cost in time, but if you _have_ warp drive then why _not_ use that for those longer trips _instead_ of your impulse engines?
I recognized that TOS was "woke" when I was a kid and saw it first-run, and I fully approved, even as a ten-year-old.
Of course, my parents were Christian Socialists. They saw TOS as a bit too conservative.
I think he spelled it Shites as another juvenile attack on Steve’s character.
The big thing...he never explained WHY Picard was supposedly so bad.
Speaking on holographic beings and it being a blindspot that might still need to be addressed- Id love to see episodes or even a season where thats the focus, especially if they bring back the Doctor in his 'old' age. Him, being old now just being a choice he made to alter his appearance to be more in line with the human condition
The Uhura relearning episode (with Nomad) - I always assumed that Nomad just sort of broke the connections in her mind, and the 'relearning' was just helping her make those old connections again. Instead of smoothing her brain, he just sort of overloaded it so that she couldn't access anything. The work was allowing her to redo the connections.
"Captain, sensors are registering a massive snark focal point in Sector 001."