I always amazes me how different Siu Nim Tao or Sil Lum Tau sets are from each of Ip Man's first generation of students whom became teachers.. and then their students. You would think that if they had learned from the same Grandmaster and Kwoon in Hong Kong that they would remain mostly the same.. now that there have been many generations of students, the 3 main sets vary so much they almost dont resemble each other anymore. Sifu Adam Chan's Sil Lim Tau is about 95 percent similar to the set I practice.. from the Leung Sheung lineage.
I practice in the Chu Shong Tin lineage and it is the same as the Yip Man form. I think the differences are because each Sifu changed it according to their interpretation of Wing Chun. Leung Sheung, Chu Shong Tin, Wong Shun Leung, they were all Yip Man students but still their forms are a little bit different
@@fernandonunez9689 i often wonder if Ip man changed things in the sets as time went on..over the years of his teaching in Hong Kong. Even Ip Ching and Ip Chun's sets were differrent too, but then did they learn directly from their father or from senior students? William Cheungs sets are very different like from another planet.. lol
That's cool you learning from Leung Sheung(1st HK generation) lineage. I was informed that that move set from 3:19 to 3:51 is a 3rd Hong Kong generation think.
@@game9848 in our lineage instead of the Tan Sao/low gan sao to the side / tan sao huen sao side palm strike section is just Tan Sao, Jom Sao forward and low, tan sao huen sao side palm strike..i noticed that Adam does both..so the section is repeated the first with a forward jom or jut sao and the next with the low gan sao block.
Shenn Thomas what tends to happen is that the more you do something, the more there is a tendency to make it your own expression. Sil Lim Tao is the basis for Wing Chun foundation building. Through it you continue to evolve along those principles. So many Sifus have incorporated their experiences in their forms, as such you will have slight variations in the techniques, but the principles should remain.
The first form is just much easier to observe it in, but truly you will see it in their approach to training whatever various forms and techniques, to just their natural everyday movements like doing physical labor etc.
Hi Adam Sifu. Thanks for sharing your knowledge again. I was wondering if you elaborate the training focus points in the first gung lik part? I get some internal sensations when I repeat it for some minutes. Thank you
Adam, just a general question...I've noticed you're focusing more on wing chun lately. Is this a base for your martial arts training? Just curious. Whatever the reason. The videos are very helpful, taken from your perspective.👍
How to Shoot Videos :- Siu Nim Tao is used for reference only. You can apply these tips for your any forms. Camera Positioning:- Limitation with front view Only is that when we see it on screen, it's not possible to copy as your right side becomes our left side. Suggestion / Solution :- Plz mount a camera on forehead and/or at just below neck or at forehead) so we can see palm/fingers/fist twisting from real angel. Top View:- In Siu Nim Tao, the movement and twist of Palm is not simple, so we may need another small clips of it from Top) E.g, th-cam.com/video/UWXvnq568CA/w-d-xo.html Sub Titles & Voice Over:- Add Sub Titles and Voice Over for every motion, movement, where to put weight, what to feel, when to relax or shift weight etc E.g, th-cam.com/video/UdpDdAPnvI8/w-d-xo.html Drone Cameras, Mirrors Walls, and 360 degree angel cameras can be good addition to above tips.
Sifu idk if you do questions but I have one and I feel like you're the guy to ask. I know I'm not one of your students but I do learn a lot from you so I hope its ok. Do you believe one can over train a form like can be done with strength training or cardio? I ask because I'm am new to wing chun. Began within the last two months. And while I also do other things: western boxing and shotokan I am completely transfixed with wing chun. More than that, siu lim tao. I dream about it. I train it probably 30 times a day or more and instead of getting bored its like every time through I love it more. And its because with each pass through I discover something new about it and the way my body expresses it. Up until about 4 days ago I felt like I was getting sharper, cleaner, and more relaxed in it while gaining more power with each session. And than all of a sudden I feel like I'm going in reverse. My wrist rotation especially on the right hand feels sloppy no matter how I try and correct it and there are other things hard to explain but again it's like I'm unlearning it. I'm not rushing it or getting bored in any way and I don't feel tense so I was wondering if maybe my body needs a break from it, or my mind or both. Because its not physically demanding that seems odd to me. Just wondering if you have any advice or if this has ever happened to you in any form training? Thank you for your videos and moral lessons in a lot of those videos. You are a true martial artist in all walks and I'm glad to know people like you still exist. Amituofo.
Hello, my advice, get closer to your Sifu. Remember Quality over quantity . Perform your forms in a speed that you can feel every movement don’t rush it! Keep always training.
How and where do I really apply sup chi sao cranes beak block? Do you think it would be more rely on a downward fook I'm about 6ft and skinny but toned. I really want to better understand this cranes beak block and how to apply it. I've tried using reinforce blocks to get it off. Fooking and one hand traps two weeving doesn't work for me ever time. Should I improve my timing more?
I am currently learning two wing Chun systems a leung ting system and a woo fai system. I don't know if that really helps but I've noticed both sil Nim tao form are different and I enjoy learning about more and more I get into them in class.
I am an exponent student and teacher of wing chun right now i feel the system is outdated and doesn't work in a MMA or street fight grandmaster Lee new this in the 70s that's why he all but abandoned it as another system it still has its uses but not only but incorporated with many forms it's useful,i loved wing chun at first but now I incorporated many styles not to tournament i don't do that anymore i even added my nations system of capoeira our fathers won their freedom using this in Brazil and it works.
MMA is sport. How could is possibly work is an artificial environment with artificially orchestrated fights? People have two arms and two legs. Nothing has changed. People have fought how they have always fought and will continue to fight the same way. Nothing has changed. Bruce wanted more tools. That’s all there is to it.
@Count Son The huen sao (the little circle you mentioned) is designed to help build both wrist mobility and strength. Wing Chun generates power primarily from 3 places: knees, Elbows, wrists. The wrists are especially important in the punches, deflections, and the chin-na. As far as your "I'm an mma guy at the top level" keyboard warrior bullshit, take that somewhere else fam. No one believes you, and no one gives a shit lmao.
but adam chan both shaolin kung fu and wing chun work for self defence and street fighting it all dens on how much you train but in my opinion jkd is better and more effective than wing chun because it has more thing to offer
gerardo covarrubias wing chun has anti-grappling. You need to find a good Wing Chun practitioner. Check entershaolin.com and come to our seminar that is dealing with grappling. June 26-28, 2020
Aidan Fisher I have been to a lot of WC schools and I can’t do much against him. I know for a fact that he and Larry are the best, along with my Sifu and brother are some of the best. You are more than welcome to come try any of us your self. I’m in Dayton, Ohio. Drop me a line unless you are just trolling
Aidan Fisher you really need to go to his school in NJ, you won’t even get past his students. Even though Chi Sau is a drill That’s all I use against boxers or anyone I deal with. I’m not out to hurt anyone so I just use Chi Sau against them. No one has made me have to do anything different. You need to visit NJ and meet those crappy guys in person.
Looks nothing like the form I learned. I even learned from two different teachers to get perspective and this is nothing like either Sifu taught. Even watching Ip Man form this looks off.
Wing Chun or martial arts in general is not always about MMA or UFC, martial sport and martial arts are different things. You need to be open minded and see things from different prospective and not be so closed minded. It’s such a shame that there loads of interesting videos on martial arts and then someone says “ how does this work in MMA”?. Like I mentioned earlier, not all forms/styles of martial art is about cage fighting. Some styles are too brutal to use in MMA, it’s about surviving, protecting yourself or a loved one, ending a fight within seconds of it starting. Wing Chun, Kenpo karate, e.t.c will teach you that, but I guess people like you will not understand.
@@merkomalice1980 that stuff looks good on camera and that's about all. It's been proven time and time again. I have sparred lots of people over the years that think that stuff like that works and it doesn't.
I always amazes me how different Siu Nim Tao or Sil Lum Tau sets are from each of Ip Man's first generation of students whom became teachers.. and then their students. You would think that if they had learned from the same Grandmaster and Kwoon in Hong Kong that they would remain mostly the same.. now that there have been many generations of students, the 3 main sets vary so much they almost dont resemble each other anymore. Sifu Adam Chan's Sil Lim Tau is about 95 percent similar to the set I practice.. from the Leung Sheung lineage.
I practice in the Chu Shong Tin lineage and it is the same as the Yip Man form. I think the differences are because each Sifu changed it according to their interpretation of Wing Chun. Leung Sheung, Chu Shong Tin, Wong Shun Leung, they were all Yip Man students but still their forms are a little bit different
@@fernandonunez9689 i often wonder if Ip man changed things in the sets as time went on..over the years of his teaching in Hong Kong. Even Ip Ching and Ip Chun's sets were differrent too, but then did they learn directly from their father or from senior students? William Cheungs sets are very different like from another planet.. lol
That's cool you learning from Leung Sheung(1st HK generation) lineage. I was informed that that move set from 3:19 to 3:51 is a 3rd Hong Kong generation think.
@@game9848 in our lineage instead of the Tan Sao/low gan sao to the side / tan sao huen sao side palm strike section is just Tan Sao, Jom Sao forward and low, tan sao huen sao side palm strike..i noticed that Adam does both..so the section is repeated the first with a forward jom or jut sao and the next with the low gan sao block.
Shenn Thomas what tends to happen is that the more you do something, the more there is a tendency to make it your own expression. Sil Lim Tao is the basis for Wing Chun foundation building. Through it you continue to evolve along those principles. So many Sifus have incorporated their experiences in their forms, as such you will have slight variations in the techniques, but the principles should remain.
watching someone play the first form speaks volumes about their understanding in WC...
You’ve said so much with one sentence. 🤧 SO much.
very true
The first form is just much easier to observe it in, but truly you will see it in their approach to training whatever various forms and techniques, to just their natural everyday movements like doing physical labor etc.
thanks for sharing your siu nim tao, you are the best adam!!
Very Impressive, thank you Adam, I’ve been looking for a basic step by step explanation of the first form sil lim Tau for some time now.
Awesome explanation of the 1st form. Can you please do the same for all the forms. Also would be good to redo this from a front view as well 🧐
Thank you so much for this information.
Gr8 video sifu.
Thanks for sharing 👍
Great explanation
Excellent tutorial! 99% the same way as I have been taught.
Im here sifu🙏
Well explained sifu thanks
Awesome thank you
Hi Adam Sifu. Thanks for sharing your knowledge again. I was wondering if you elaborate the training focus points in the first gung lik part? I get some internal sensations when I repeat it for some minutes. Thank you
Sifu Chan does the first form exactly how I learned it from Master Moy Yat here in NY many years ago. R.I.P Master Yat 🙏
Adam, just a general question...I've noticed you're focusing more on wing chun lately. Is this a base for your martial arts training? Just curious.
Whatever the reason. The videos are very helpful, taken from your perspective.👍
very good
Bruce lees last disciple.Lol truly a legend right here.
Adam, would you possibly make an app?
I like the way you explained wing chun. May i know who is your sifu ?
This is the best explanation, demo of such Kim Tao i have ever scene !!! Thank you so much
Perfect form in the Yip Man style.
Isn't the park sao at the end of the first section a 45 degree angle?
How to Shoot Videos :-
Siu Nim Tao is used for reference only. You can apply these tips for your any forms.
Camera Positioning:-
Limitation with front view Only is that when we see it on screen, it's
not possible to copy as your right side becomes our left side.
Suggestion / Solution :-
Plz mount a camera on forehead and/or at just below neck or at
forehead) so we can see palm/fingers/fist twisting from real angel.
Top View:-
In Siu Nim Tao, the movement and twist of Palm is not simple, so
we may need another small clips of it from Top)
E.g, th-cam.com/video/UWXvnq568CA/w-d-xo.html
Sub Titles & Voice Over:-
Add Sub Titles and Voice Over for every motion, movement, where
to put weight, what to feel, when to relax or shift weight etc
E.g, th-cam.com/video/UdpDdAPnvI8/w-d-xo.html
Drone Cameras, Mirrors Walls, and 360 degree angel cameras can be good addition to above tips.
Sifu idk if you do questions but I have one and I feel like you're the guy to ask. I know I'm not one of your students but I do learn a lot from you so I hope its ok. Do you believe one can over train a form like can be done with strength training or cardio? I ask because I'm am new to wing chun. Began within the last two months. And while I also do other things: western boxing and shotokan I am completely transfixed with wing chun. More than that, siu lim tao. I dream about it. I train it probably 30 times a day or more and instead of getting bored its like every time through I love it more. And its because with each pass through I discover something new about it and the way my body expresses it. Up until about 4 days ago I felt like I was getting sharper, cleaner, and more relaxed in it while gaining more power with each session. And than all of a sudden I feel like I'm going in reverse. My wrist rotation especially on the right hand feels sloppy no matter how I try and correct it and there are other things hard to explain but again it's like I'm unlearning it. I'm not rushing it or getting bored in any way and I don't feel tense so I was wondering if maybe my body needs a break from it, or my mind or both. Because its not physically demanding that seems odd to me. Just wondering if you have any advice or if this has ever happened to you in any form training? Thank you for your videos and moral lessons in a lot of those videos. You are a true martial artist in all walks and I'm glad to know people like you still exist. Amituofo.
Hello, my advice, get closer to your Sifu. Remember Quality over quantity . Perform your forms in a speed that you can feel every movement don’t rush it! Keep always training.
Tell me.. shoulders there have been some punches at the beginning? I guess this is not the full form.. do you have the full form on the site?
Yes I understand there is fist difference in chi gong
How and where do I really apply sup chi sao cranes beak block? Do you think it would be more rely on a downward fook I'm about 6ft and skinny but toned.
I really want to better understand this cranes beak block and how to apply it. I've tried using reinforce blocks to get it off. Fooking and one hand traps two weeving doesn't work for me ever time. Should I improve my timing more?
I am currently learning two wing Chun systems a leung ting system and a woo fai system. I don't know if that really helps but I've noticed both sil Nim tao form are different and I enjoy learning about more and more I get into them in class.
Muito bom
Shouldn’t your fingers be tightly together and woo sau sharper? Forgive me as I’m looking for technique.
So what you different from the Fook on Kay san
Great Nation China! Italy! i know well your culture of 5000 years! i have most friends Chinese here in Schio city ( Vicenza ) in Italy!!!
I am an exponent student and teacher of wing chun right now i feel the system is outdated and doesn't work in a MMA or street fight grandmaster Lee new this in the 70s that's why he all but abandoned it as another system it still has its uses but not only but incorporated with many forms it's useful,i loved wing chun at first but now I incorporated many styles not to tournament i don't do that anymore i even added my nations system of capoeira our fathers won their freedom using this in Brazil and it works.
MMA is sport. How could is possibly work is an artificial environment with artificially orchestrated fights? People have two arms and two legs. Nothing has changed. People have fought how they have always fought and will continue to fight the same way. Nothing has changed. Bruce wanted more tools. That’s all there is to it.
Wsl ving tsun?
one question wing chun is good for self defence and street fighting just like shaolin kung fu both can be learned at any age just like any martial art
@Jashard Wallington so what you said and i said is true every kung fu style works for self defence and street fighting it all depends on the user
@Jashard Wallington i will there a shaolin kung fu and wing chun schools near me and they are for real
@Jashard Wallington I will and thank you for letting me know that and one last thing in my opinion Shaolin Kung Fu are my favorite
@Count Son The huen sao (the little circle you mentioned) is designed to help build both wrist mobility and strength. Wing Chun generates power primarily from 3 places: knees, Elbows, wrists.
The wrists are especially important in the punches, deflections, and the chin-na.
As far as your "I'm an mma guy at the top level" keyboard warrior bullshit, take that somewhere else fam. No one believes you, and no one gives a shit lmao.
What’s the question? You just left a statement
No disrespect I've done gary lam and others
but adam chan both shaolin kung fu and wing chun work for self defence and street fighting it all dens on how much you train but in my opinion jkd is better and more effective than wing chun because it has more thing to offer
gerardo covarrubias it’s not the art, it’s the person. The gun is never the real weapon, the person wielding it is.
@@nvisblfist1 Wing Chun only has striking kicking and trapping wild Jeet Kune Do has punching kicking trapping and grappling
gerardo covarrubias wing chun has anti-grappling. You need to find a good Wing Chun practitioner. Check entershaolin.com and come to our seminar that is dealing with grappling. June 26-28, 2020
Aidan Fisher I have been to a lot of WC schools and I can’t do much against him. I know for a fact that he and Larry are the best, along with my Sifu and brother are some of the best. You are more than welcome to come try any of us your self. I’m in Dayton, Ohio. Drop me a line unless you are just trolling
Aidan Fisher you really need to go to his school in NJ, you won’t even get past his students. Even though Chi Sau is a drill That’s all I use against boxers or anyone I deal with. I’m not out to hurt anyone so I just use Chi Sau against them. No one has made me have to do anything different. You need to visit NJ and meet those crappy guys in person.
Looks nothing like the form I learned. I even learned from two different teachers to get perspective and this is nothing like either Sifu taught. Even watching Ip Man form this looks off.
Realize your own space. :)
Can you show us how wing chun works in an MMA fight?
Probably not mostly because it doesn't work in a real fight
Wing Chun or martial arts in general is not always about MMA or UFC, martial sport and martial arts are different things. You need to be open minded and see things from different prospective and not be so closed minded. It’s such a shame that there loads of interesting videos on martial arts and then someone says “ how does this work in MMA”?. Like I mentioned earlier, not all forms/styles of martial art is about cage fighting. Some styles are too brutal to use in MMA, it’s about surviving, protecting yourself or a loved one, ending a fight within seconds of it starting. Wing Chun, Kenpo karate, e.t.c will teach you that, but I guess people like you will not understand.
@@rstyree so then what's the point?
@@scienz the point is that it doesn't work in real life situations.
@@rstyree I was asking so whats the point of studying it
And your lineage, please ..
Those who have never fought can become a teacher. Good.
Great training tool , however imo and my experience , you do not fight like this
Extract what is essential.
Anything can happen innA fight silly...
@@backboneengage6107 j.s , strike from anywhere any angle
@@bugs4680 circles lines angles weakness in stance..the deltoid weakness... speed, power, Murphy law...yawn....yup...anything can happen
@@backboneengage6107 I do wing chun I know how it works , I also do conditioning and jkd muay boran bjj and train everyday and bare knuckle
@@bugs4680 no you don’t. Your original comment makes this clear.
Please be ware that these techniques will not work in an actual fight
any fighting system learned but not understood will not work in a real fight
@@merkomalice1980 well that crap doesn't work.
@@rstyree for you or for me.?
@@merkomalice1980 that stuff looks good on camera and that's about all. It's been proven time and time again. I have sparred lots of people over the years that think that stuff like that works and it doesn't.
@Aidan Fisher lol it doesn't work
You mis the essence of ving tsun. You do just the moves without knowing the principle
Who are you talking to?