@@Terrordome3000 the baryonyx from bunker scene in JWFK is not from sorna as masrani breeded more the sorna ones are most probably yellow green strip ones in Jw park website which is unfortunately shut down
@@vanshpatel5343 The designs on the website are not canon, Collin Trevorrow himself has confirmed this. That's why all the dinosaurs on the site have a different design in the movies
This added much needed depth to the lore of the Jurassic franchise, It’s cool how you were given the ability to add/elaborate things in the official canon. Well done
Thank you so much for your effort and for all the love you poured into this project. JP means so much to so many fans, and I’m glad that you can tell how much you understand and appreciate what came before
You are a legend, you brought light to a very obscure part of the lore, one that picked my interest ever since I watched JP3 on 2001, you have inspired a lot of my parks in JWE2 hehe Happy Jurassic June! I hope this isn't the last time you get involved in the franchise
You have made it so cool! And you did a really good job on designing the list! Sometimes, I revisit it and just enjoy all of it😅. And it's such a grateful addition to the Jurassic cannon! Thank you for all of the work you did in this process!
I love the Ingen list you created for the Fallen Kingdom DPG website! As far as I'm concerned it's the most canon official list we've yet gotten! Some other cool or interesting things to think about too, regarding their dinosaur populations between 1993 - 97 (at least on Sorna) is how soon various species had become reproductively active? IF the cloned dinosaurs were to reach reproductive maturity similarly to what we're finding out about the real animals in the fossil record (achieving reproductive maturity while only half the size of a skeletal adult), then it's possible that there could have been population explosions of certain medium-larger species, like the Edmontosaurs and Parasaurolophus, where there could have already been at least 2 generations of wild bred hadrosaurs roaming Sorna?! And this could also apply to so many other species too, the Stegosaurs, Gallimimus, Microceratus, Triceratops, Brachiosaurs, Mamenchisaurs and even the T. rexes! What IF the infant rex we saw in The Lost World was not the Buck and Doe's 1st offspring, but possibly their 2nd or maybe 3rd by then? Granted, it wouldn't necessarily mean that their prior offspring were still alive at that point (competition from Carnotaurus, raptors and other T. rexes, or death from disease or injury from the environment or attempted prey takedown ). It's just wild to think about how the wild dinosaur populations could have been evolving on their own, post-1993! As for the animals not on Ingen's list, it's really wild to think about just how many unknown/unidentified DNA samples they might have had but just never got around to fully mapping and cloning to see what they had. Couple that with Wu going back to Sorna, post-TLW, cloning the unlisted Spinosaurus and Ceratosaurus, it makes you recall what Johnston's stated that Ingen had hatched more species than what they admitted to, so there could be any number of other species roaming about Sorna, and maybe the other Las Cino Muertes too, that still nobody knows about! We only have to go by what Grant and the Kirby's actually saw, and we don't have a full admission by Wu or anyone else involved about what all happened on Sorna between the events of TLW and JP3. A LOT of interesting ways the story could still unfold there too!
Extremely Creative Work Man, You Made Reality & Fiction Merge With This Document. The Realisation of the Story for Marketing... Fan of You Work from Moment i Set My Eyes on it. As a Designer Myself I have Taken your Work as Inspiration. Thanks a Ton for Sharing this Process as It Was Wonderful to go back to this. Thanks.
That was Awesome 😃🦕🦖 heard of this Ingen list back in 2018 by Klayton when FK came out. I was very interested on what happen after the fall of Jurassic Park. You did a pretty good job on this list.
Do you have these documents, the early renditions or the later photoshopped ones on PDFs anywhere online? I'd love to have copies of them! You did amazing work for us fans, thank you!
22:48 If and when you do another livestream, I might talk more about how in my expanded headcanon (Robertverse), not only have agents gained access to more redacted information regarding the profiles to clone other dinosaur & paleofauna species (most that were featured in older scripts and ancillary media at the time), but also how representatives from other facilities have expanded on it since 2015.
Do you plan to release these pages digitally for the public to download and print out, since these are a modified version that could be a great prop or a simple nice amenity for all fans of the Jurassic Park franchise.
I feel like the Ingen's list was gonna be bigger, not a list of dinosaurs, but a list of animals, that is specific yes. I say that, as in JP1, there is a slight scene that has sabre cat plushes, sure I say they were props bought for cheap to be filler, but I think that what we see in Jurassic park is just a proof of "look at what we could do", before doing more things that are, closer to our time. Now, I am certain the Ingen list was at best bigger, now here is a question, when do we see a Sabre cat? Now you may ask, how? Well its possible an ingen employee we aren't aware of, or department had samples on hand as a sort of resume. Plus according to Dinotracker to promote dominion, chances are, there are other dinos that were made, sold, transported then dropped since well, you got two choices, get arrested for animal trafficking or dump and wipe your hands. Plus, chances are, there are other unaccounted for animals, Claire said the Blue is the last raptor, yet in the Neflix spin off, there are raptors, well 2, in Dinotracker, there are more raptors, chances are, there is a severe miscount and the raptors are damn good at hiding.
How did you go about choosing species for the list? Did Universal give you some leeway? This was an awesome video. I would have loved to have seen Dryosaurus and Hypsilophodon on the list, but what we got was pretty solid!
See here: th-cam.com/video/Fr8-uUv7ysw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=iL76_bS0IjwAVohA I do have a playlist called ‘my Jurassic journey’ which catalogues a lot of my involvement with Jurassic.
Great video! I have one question. Why maiasaura and hadrosaurus weren't added to the list in some way? They were very briefly shown in the actual movie (species field guide).
Theres genuinely no way all the dinosaurs on sorna are dead, 2 films on their ecosystems just for jw to say “they are all dead or gone!” You probably gotta consider the fact that the dinosaurs on sorna mass breeded and some had asexual reproduction. I honestly can see sornas ecosystem being far different yet similar, knowing big eatie and little eatie are from sorna that means there was a multitude of second generation t rexs bred in the wild so i can see the rex population being the same as it was previously and since the spinosaurus was apart of the amalgam test it **could**? Asexually reproduce offspring thats more iffy but if they do (and oh boy i bet they will) re-visit sorna in a future film they will just use that ol’ iconic line “life finds a way”. Or i just wrote a paragraph of coping😂, it just seems silly all the lore games and 2 movies built off the island would just be gone because EVERYTHING was gone on the island if they do revisit the island a lot of site b icons like the raptors in jp3 or the spinosaurus wouldnt be present (i could see a entirely different spinosaurus however)
Thank you. Those people have just got the wrong end of the stick, and won't listen to reason. Anyone who has got to know me better ends up having fun and we get along.
A prime example being paleonyx (hope I pronounced that right), they'd recently ripped on one of your posts criticising the becklespinax design in chaos theory. They even had the nerve to try and accuse you of hipocracy over the dinosaur designs in your animated series.
Interesting behind the scenes detailing. Though half of me wished that you kept the Troodon since Colin, at least, did say that the Jurassic Park the Game that some of the events in there might've happen, but probably not in the way that was seen in there. It's kind of like with past historical events that often get murky over time to the point where what actually happened gets overlooked/overshadowed or twisted in a way that acts as like propaganda to benefit that countries' own nationalist narcissism for certain events in retrospect were terrible and disasterous mistakes.
Great video I absolutely love this list and I always refer to it when people ask what dinosaurs could appear in Jurassic park survival What’s your opinion on a full sized dilophosaurus that Spielberg and stan Winston were talking about during the production of TLW: th-cam.com/video/-aC-n4Ylju4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=T4eq7VZ_Hht20mqe
There should be 6 adults and Jr. on Site B, and there were supposed to be 2 on JP. Rexy and a juvenile (Red) that was thought to have been killed be Rexy (book version). The movie there was only Rexy in JP.
Much as it was generous for Universal to engage the fandom in the Jurassic franchise's world building; the DPG is a staple of how that would fail. Not only did you and your friend manage to gloss over previous InGen creations both cited in both Spielberg and Trevorrow's film(s) but half the Jurassic community discarded most of the Gene Guard Act lore for its ambiguity, unfaithfulness and inconsistencies--and that's within a short year or two--after the release of Fallen Kingdom.
You’re exactly right! It was such a failure soon after FK that’s why Universal wanted us back for Dinotracker. 😂 Back for more punishment I see “Mr. N.”
@@Terrordome3000 But the point still stands, you guys don't have a strong lore built up; everything is fan service. Just adding the JP3 Raptors in the fray ignores previous lore of Blue as *the last of her kind.* Not even Dominion acknowledges the presence of V. Sornaensis and you helped promote this film.
@@TheMightyN You're exactly right there is no strong lore. Never was. There's never been a strong appetite for it outside of the core fandom, but we had fun piecing bits together and adding to it.
Wow, this is awesome! The InGen list was a very nice bit of lore, very cool photoshopping too.
You did a good job 👏
Thank you very much!
It was a privilege working on this website with the team back in 2017👍
🤝
@@Terrordome3000 the baryonyx from bunker scene in JWFK is not from sorna as masrani breeded more the sorna ones are most probably yellow green strip ones in Jw park website which is unfortunately shut down
@@vanshpatel5343 The designs on the website are not canon, Collin Trevorrow himself has confirmed this. That's why all the dinosaurs on the site have a different design in the movies
@@vanshpatel5343stu bro
Site b is site A it wasn't built becomes Jurassic park in 1993 before 1994
This added much needed depth to the lore of the Jurassic franchise, It’s cool how you were given the ability to add/elaborate things in the official canon. Well done
Thank you so much for your effort and for all the love you poured into this project. JP means so much to so many fans, and I’m glad that you can tell how much you understand and appreciate what came before
That’s great to hear! Thank you 🙏
This really added a lot to the marketing, and I’m glad you got to take care of it. Thanks a lot!
Thank you for the kind words!
You are a legend, you brought light to a very obscure part of the lore, one that picked my interest ever since I watched JP3 on 2001, you have inspired a lot of my parks in JWE2 hehe
Happy Jurassic June! I hope this isn't the last time you get involved in the franchise
That’s awesome to hear! Glad to hear our work inspired you! Happy Jurassic June!
This shows your amazing commitment to this franchise, I hope that you get to keep on working for Jurassic marketing!
🙏 we hope so too!
You have made it so cool! And you did a really good job on designing the list! Sometimes, I revisit it and just enjoy all of it😅. And it's such a grateful addition to the Jurassic cannon! Thank you for all of the work you did in this process!
Thank you!!
I love the Ingen list you created for the Fallen Kingdom DPG website! As far as I'm concerned it's the most canon official list we've yet gotten!
Some other cool or interesting things to think about too, regarding their dinosaur populations between 1993 - 97 (at least on Sorna) is how soon various species had become reproductively active? IF the cloned dinosaurs were to reach reproductive maturity similarly to what we're finding out about the real animals in the fossil record (achieving reproductive maturity while only half the size of a skeletal adult), then it's possible that there could have been population explosions of certain medium-larger species, like the Edmontosaurs and Parasaurolophus, where there could have already been at least 2 generations of wild bred hadrosaurs roaming Sorna?! And this could also apply to so many other species too, the Stegosaurs, Gallimimus, Microceratus, Triceratops, Brachiosaurs, Mamenchisaurs and even the T. rexes! What IF the infant rex we saw in The Lost World was not the Buck and Doe's 1st offspring, but possibly their 2nd or maybe 3rd by then? Granted, it wouldn't necessarily mean that their prior offspring were still alive at that point (competition from Carnotaurus, raptors and other T. rexes, or death from disease or injury from the environment or attempted prey takedown ). It's just wild to think about how the wild dinosaur populations could have been evolving on their own, post-1993!
As for the animals not on Ingen's list, it's really wild to think about just how many unknown/unidentified DNA samples they might have had but just never got around to fully mapping and cloning to see what they had. Couple that with Wu going back to Sorna, post-TLW, cloning the unlisted Spinosaurus and Ceratosaurus, it makes you recall what Johnston's stated that Ingen had hatched more species than what they admitted to, so there could be any number of other species roaming about Sorna, and maybe the other Las Cino Muertes too, that still nobody knows about! We only have to go by what Grant and the Kirby's actually saw, and we don't have a full admission by Wu or anyone else involved about what all happened on Sorna between the events of TLW and JP3. A LOT of interesting ways the story could still unfold there too!
Wonderful attention to detail Jack! Shows you have a great grasp of Jurassic lore 👌👌👌
Cheers JC!
Thank you so much for all you have done for the jurrasic park/world community!
Extremely Creative Work Man, You Made Reality & Fiction Merge With This Document. The Realisation of the Story for Marketing... Fan of You Work from Moment i Set My Eyes on it. As a Designer Myself I have Taken your Work as Inspiration. Thanks a Ton for Sharing this Process as It Was Wonderful to go back to this. Thanks.
Wow thank you for such kindness. Happy to hear you enjoyed it!
11:54
Mate, if Owen was in that scene, he'd be shanking the Baryonyx's snoot 😂
This is really cool. It would be great to see more of the making of these documents, like the BioSyn leaked files.
The time and dedication you guys did is amazing. It really makes us feel that this really did happen in our world.
this domunent was 15-year-old-me's favorite thing back in the day.
i ate all that website ish up like it was candy
so thank you for that
Cool connections and easter eggs. Loved the details and realistic look since I first read it.🤩
amazing work! it was so cool seeing the list after hearing about it for over 15 years!
We could have this type of list about Biosyn's Valley or JW's Isla Nublar
That was Awesome 😃🦕🦖 heard of this Ingen list back in 2018 by Klayton when FK came out. I was very interested on what happen after the fall of Jurassic Park. You did a pretty good job on this list.
I soooo wish the Troodon bit had stayed in... love the JP Troodon
Do you have these documents, the early renditions or the later photoshopped ones on PDFs anywhere online? I'd love to have copies of them! You did amazing work for us fans, thank you!
@@xblakelfoglex thank you! I have the scans but haven’t released them online.
@@Terrordome3000 was spinosaurus created in 1998 or 1999? I'm trying to find the lore about the spinosaurus.
Is that from Dino tracker on website
@@zanenindroid7979 DinosaurProtectionGroup.com
22:48 If and when you do another livestream, I might talk more about how in my expanded headcanon (Robertverse), not only have agents gained access to more redacted information regarding the profiles to clone other dinosaur & paleofauna species (most that were featured in older scripts and ancillary media at the time), but also how representatives from other facilities have expanded on it since 2015.
Wait so did you make it on the website or copied it?
Do you plan to release these pages digitally for the public to download and print out, since these are a modified version that could be a great prop or a simple nice amenity for all fans of the Jurassic Park franchise.
Not this version no. But the final one can be downloaded from the Dinosaur Protection Group website.
@@Terrordome3000 amaing job, Is it downloadable now i cant seem to find it?
@@chalback Go here and click the green button for the list: www.dinosaurprotectiongroup.com/what-killed-the-gene-guard-act.html
@@Terrordome3000 Thanks
I feel like the Ingen's list was gonna be bigger, not a list of dinosaurs, but a list of animals, that is specific yes.
I say that, as in JP1, there is a slight scene that has sabre cat plushes, sure I say they were props bought for cheap to be filler, but I think that what we see in Jurassic park is just a proof of "look at what we could do", before doing more things that are, closer to our time.
Now, I am certain the Ingen list was at best bigger, now here is a question, when do we see a Sabre cat? Now you may ask, how? Well its possible an ingen employee we aren't aware of, or department had samples on hand as a sort of resume.
Plus according to Dinotracker to promote dominion, chances are, there are other dinos that were made, sold, transported then dropped since well, you got two choices, get arrested for animal trafficking or dump and wipe your hands.
Plus, chances are, there are other unaccounted for animals, Claire said the Blue is the last raptor, yet in the Neflix spin off, there are raptors, well 2, in Dinotracker, there are more raptors, chances are, there is a severe miscount and the raptors are damn good at hiding.
This was great! I hope that Universal will let you guys talk more about things like this.
Thanks for making this prop I used it in my Jurassic Park D20 game.
Ooo got a link?
@@Terrordome3000 I used a book called Modern D20 and homebrewed the mission. It was called Operation: Resurrection
This is amazing 🙌🏼💯
How did you go about choosing species for the list? Did Universal give you some leeway? This was an awesome video. I would have loved to have seen Dryosaurus and Hypsilophodon on the list, but what we got was pretty solid!
The list comes from what species we see in the films, and on props made for the films.
So cool that you got to do this. How did they get you involved with this project?
See here: th-cam.com/video/Fr8-uUv7ysw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=iL76_bS0IjwAVohA
I do have a playlist called ‘my Jurassic journey’ which catalogues a lot of my involvement with Jurassic.
1:10 What book is that?
Making of TLW I believe.
@Terrordome3000 what was the population of Isla Nublar during The Lost World?
🤷♂
You guys ever gonna add the species profile back? Curious to see what the Trex, and pachy sizes were
@@_ThermoGojiDesignFanatic Not likely at this time as we’re not working on Jurassic.
@@Terrordome3000 will Dinotracker ever receive any updates?
@@_ThermoGojiDesignFanatic No idea. I hope so. Best thing to do is let Universal know you want updates.
Great video!
I have one question. Why maiasaura and hadrosaurus weren't added to the list in some way? They were very briefly shown in the actual movie (species field guide).
Hadrosaurus is mentioned in the Holoscape and DPG and Maiasaura appears as a Dna Sample in Jw Fallen Kingdom
Spared no expenses
Microceratops is now microceratus in real life. The name changed from the time of JP
Theres genuinely no way all the dinosaurs on sorna are dead, 2 films on their ecosystems just for jw to say “they are all dead or gone!” You probably gotta consider the fact that the dinosaurs on sorna mass breeded and some had asexual reproduction. I honestly can see sornas ecosystem being far different yet similar, knowing big eatie and little eatie are from sorna that means there was a multitude of second generation t rexs bred in the wild so i can see the rex population being the same as it was previously and since the spinosaurus was apart of the amalgam test it **could**? Asexually reproduce offspring thats more iffy but if they do (and oh boy i bet they will) re-visit sorna in a future film they will just use that ol’ iconic line “life finds a way”.
Or i just wrote a paragraph of coping😂, it just seems silly all the lore games and 2 movies built off the island would just be gone because EVERYTHING was gone on the island if they do revisit the island a lot of site b icons like the raptors in jp3 or the spinosaurus wouldnt be present (i could see a entirely different spinosaurus however)
Amazing
Procompsognathus and Compsognathus aren’t the same species
Quality Jack
Where can I get this from
Check description
@Terrordome3000 is there a pdf for this or do I have to make it my self
I still can't believe there are assholes that hate you on Twitter, you seem like a decent guy.
Thank you. Those people have just got the wrong end of the stick, and won't listen to reason. Anyone who has got to know me better ends up having fun and we get along.
A prime example being paleonyx (hope I pronounced that right), they'd recently ripped on one of your posts criticising the becklespinax design in chaos theory. They even had the nerve to try and accuse you of hipocracy over the dinosaur designs in your animated series.
I never knew you were one of the people that actually worked on the websites for the films
I find that fact absolutely incredible!
@@SeanOkeefe-uj6xn Yeah I saw that, was hilarious. 😂
Interesting behind the scenes detailing. Though half of me wished that you kept the Troodon since Colin, at least, did say that the Jurassic Park the Game that some of the events in there might've happen, but probably not in the way that was seen in there. It's kind of like with past historical events that often get murky over time to the point where what actually happened gets overlooked/overshadowed or twisted in a way that acts as like propaganda to benefit that countries' own nationalist narcissism for certain events in retrospect were terrible and disasterous mistakes.
Well it was mentioned that the Troodon was removed from records in Sorkins journal, so it works in that regard.
@@Terrordome3000 Fair enough. Did Universal contact you and your friends yet on the viral marketing yet for Jurassic Park7/Jurassic World 4?
@@TylerRakstis Not yet.
@@Terrordome3000 Well let's hope they do soon.
533rd like and 120th comment! 👍🏼
If there were so many Dinosaurs on Isla Sorna, imagine how many species there were on Isla Nublar when Jurassic World was operating😳
heh nice
Great video I absolutely love this list and I always refer to it when people ask what dinosaurs could appear in Jurassic park survival
What’s your opinion on a full sized dilophosaurus that Spielberg and stan Winston were talking about during the production of TLW: th-cam.com/video/-aC-n4Ylju4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=T4eq7VZ_Hht20mqe
Thank you and I’d love to see a full size Dilo!
it's corythosaurus but it was misspelled by accident
There should be 6 adults and Jr. on Site B, and there were supposed to be 2 on JP. Rexy and a juvenile (Red) that was thought to have been killed be Rexy (book version). The movie there was only Rexy in JP.
@Terrordome3000 If there were 9 Gallimimus on Nublar by late 1994 then by your logic during JP2 there would be 3 or 0 Gallimimus on Isla Nublar
Dinosaurs can Reproduce pal
I don't remember it on the InGen list 🤔
Much as it was generous for Universal to engage the fandom in the Jurassic franchise's world building; the DPG is a staple of how that would fail. Not only did you and your friend manage to gloss over previous InGen creations both cited in both Spielberg and Trevorrow's film(s) but half the Jurassic community discarded most of the Gene Guard Act lore for its ambiguity, unfaithfulness and inconsistencies--and that's within a short year or two--after the release of Fallen Kingdom.
You’re exactly right! It was such a failure soon after FK that’s why Universal wanted us back for Dinotracker. 😂
Back for more punishment I see “Mr. N.”
@@Terrordome3000 DinoTracker being the second on the shut-in list, Terrordome3000? 😂
@@Terrordome3000 But the point still stands, you guys don't have a strong lore built up; everything is fan service. Just adding the JP3 Raptors in the fray ignores previous lore of Blue as *the last of her kind.* Not even Dominion acknowledges the presence of V. Sornaensis and you helped promote this film.
@@TheMightyN You're exactly right there is no strong lore. Never was. There's never been a strong appetite for it outside of the core fandom, but we had fun piecing bits together and adding to it.
@@TheMightyN For the fun police I guess it is!