1. Carnatic: Southern and Original 2. Hindustani: Northern and Mixed Language and Location makes are Difference as North India Merged with Foreign having Persian influence. I Listen to Classical Spiritual Sanskritic Natural Music.
You are : RACIST. NOTHING ELSE. HINDUSTANI IS ORIGINAL BEFORE UK FORCED HARMONIUM ON US OBVIOUSLY FOR BEING JEALOUS OF SUCH GREAT MUSIC. ABOVE ALL KARNATAK MUSIC SOUNDS BAD AND FUNNY 🤣😂 LIKE REALLY BAD.... WHO LISTENS TO IT ? 😂
Hello. I am a singer and I have learned both Carnatic classical vocal and Hindustani classical vocal. Here are some similarities and differences between both systems. Similarities : Both systems come from the samaveda Both systems encourage improvisation Both systems have a Tala structure and a raga structure Differences: Hindustani music is more prevalent in North India and it stretches out to Pakistan and Bangladesh. Hindustani compositions are more raga based. Hindustani compositions are shorter than carnatic compositions. Languages sung in Hindustani music include: sanskrit, hindi, braj bhasha, Marathi, Gujarathi, Bengali, oriya, Manipur, Punjabi, kashmir, nepali, urdhu etc. Types of compositions that are sung besides pure classical include: bhajans, abhangs, shabads, ghazals, chaithis, kajris, jhoolas, thumris, dadras, rabindra Sangeet, nazrul geethi, (tappas) ( rarely heard these days) etc.. Pure Hindustani classical include: dhrupads, dhammars, thrivats, chathurangs(rarely heard these days)... Taranas are heard in a Hindustani recital. What we commonly hear today in a Hindustani recital is the "khayal gayaki"... Khayal is an Urdhu word for imagination or idea... "Khayal" came after dhrupad. There are two types of Khayal: "bada Khayal" and " chota Khayal." Bada Khayal" is synonymous with what is known as "Vilambit". " Vilambit" means slow tempo. The " bandish" is taken to sing khayal. A "bandish" is a fixed composition to do improvisation upon. A "bandish" literally means to bind something together. A ""bandish" can be in Vilambit laya(slow tempo), madhya laya(medium tempo) or drut tempo(fast tempo). The "bandish" is taken to do various improvisational techniques such as alaap, bolalaap, bolthaan, behelawa, sargams, taan, etc...This is how a musician/singer shows his/her creativity /mastery in singing one raag for at least 40-50 minutes. It takes years and years of hard work and practice to do this. Both Hindu and Muslim artists perform Hindustani music. All Hindustani compositions don't have to be on God, they can be on radha Krishna Leela, Krishna Leela, seetha ram Leela, shiv parvathi ganesh pariwar, durga Mata, etc... they can be on nature, such as spring season, the sounds of the singing cuckoo bird, the rainy season, the monsoon season, etc... they can be about lovers missing each other, mother-in-law/daughter-in-law issues, etc.. Carnatic music is more prevalent in South India. It is prevalent in Tamil Nadu, Andhra pradesh, Telangana, Kerala, Karnataka and Sri. Lanka. Karnatik music used to be performed in temples in the olden days before it came to common settings. Karnatik music is bhakti based. Karnatik compositions are all on God. Karnatik music is composition based. Karnatik compositions are longer than Hindustani compositions. Carnatic music has what is called "kampitha gamakam," where as Hindustani music does not have this. Karnatik music has the concept of "Thani avarthanam" percussion solo whereas Hindustani music does not have this concept. The " krithi"or"keerthana" is what is taken to do improvisations in carnatic music such as raga alapanai, nerval, and kalpana swarams. A student of Karnatik music learns many compositions before learning how to do improvisational techniques, while a Hindustani student will learn how to do simple improvisational techniques immediately after learning the composition. Other types of compositions in Karnatik music include : geethams, jathiswaram swarajathi, varnams, thillanas, jaavaLis etc..
Ma'am Carnatic music has lay in same speed but the number of swaras sung per beat. This is called gathi so there are different speeds in Carnatic as well
Wowowwww ! If there is one video that can spurt all the spurious facts about carnatic music, it's this. Lots and lots of misinformation about Carnatic music. Her aakaram rendition in Carnatic is rather mocking than actual representation.
@@deepakkimola4936 not like that bro we can sing if u hear raga alapana it does not contain thala(beat) infact before singing a keerthi (structural song) we sing raga alapana
Please let me explain. I have learnt both Carnatic vocal and Hindustani vocal. In carnatic vocal, a song can be sung without percussion accompaniment and one can even sing improvisations in carnatic music such as raga alapanai, nerval, and kalpana swarams without percussion without percussion accompaniment if it is for a singing competition or if it is just singing one song. This is because the carnatic vocalist will be putting thala in the hand and keeping track of the thala. If it is instrumental, such as Veena, violin or flute, he/she will be tapping the toe to keep the tala or someone experienced will be be putting the tala and the instrumentalists( Veena artist, flutist, violinist) will be watching that experienced person's thala. if one is singing for a half hour performance or more of carnatic music, or playing the Veena, violin, or flute for more than half an hour, then yes, one would definitely need percussion accompaniment. The performance will not sound good without the percussion along with the vocalist or only the main instrumentalist. In a performance, the raga alapanai is sung without the percussion, this section is between the vocalist or instrumentalist and the violinist. The kalpana swarams section is between the vocalist or instrumentalist and the percussion. And the nerval section is the collaboration of everyone together. Also, each person maintains or keeps their own Tala count in a carnatic recital. And, the whole Tala responsibility is not on percussionist in carnatic music. He is supposed to follow the main artist of the concert, the vocalist or instrumentalist. On the other hand, in Hindustani music, one can't really sing pure Hindustani classical without percussion. It would be kind of difficult to. And doing improvisations without percussion such as alaap, bolalaap, behelawa, boltaan, sargams, taan etc... in Hindustani music would be really difficult. One could probably sing lighter pieces such as bhajans, abhangs, shabads, ghazals, but not pure Hindustani classical without percussion because when singing or playing pure Hindustani classical, the artist depends on the percussion artist to give the correct parts of any particular Tala accurately and to show the parts of any given Tala such as the "Sam" "thali" and "Khali". The percussionist in a Hindustani recital also maintains the laya/tempo and the whole Hindustani recital is actually lead and maintained by the percussionist. I hope this helps.
Mam plz ek video Aap karnatak rag ko hindustani me aur hindustani rag ko karnatak me kya kahte hai Is par banaiye hindustani 10 that ko chhodkar wo to sab jagah mil jate hai 🙏
She said, Carnatic music in only madham laya and she is also write. shankar mahadeven also told Carnatic music has only madham laya and he is trained in Carnatic classical music
@@sureshdevi5137 dear sir/mam with all due respect FYI she said carnatic musicians dont have laya, and in terms of Shankar sir , im pretty sure he hasnt said 'only' if he has then hes wrong.... and shankar sir may be trained in canatic music, if im not wrong he is not a full fledged carnatic music Vidwan...... so generalising a statement based on statements of 2 to 5 ppl is a wrong thing mam/sir😊😊😊😊
Your view of Carnatic music is very reductive and this is often a symptom of knowing very little about the subject. Almost everything you said about Carnatic music is either incomplete or plain wrong. Your commentary also comes across as calling Hindustani music better than Carnatic music. Both styles of music go back many many centuries and it is truly unfortunate how you have chosen to present this comparison in your video. Please educate yourself better on the topic.
She knows nothing about carnatic music. She has seen some padosan movie a parody of South Indian classical musi lf you are ignorangt it is better to keep quiet instead of spreading false hood
Mam mai ek bahut bai sura insan ho mujhe music ki knowledge bhi nhi hai or paise bhi nhi lekin mai youTube ke sahaare seekh raha ho lekin koi farak nhi koi tips di ji please ke kaise awaaz ko sahi karo pls
Please, if possible select same ragaa, i.e. song having same notes , verse and taal, but present it in both hindustani and carnatic style. E.g. same song in raag hamsadwani or bhairavi etc.. Of couse this video was quite informative, well presented and your voice is v good.
यदि गुणवत्ता की बात करे और कर्नाटक संगीत आकाश है और हिंदुस्तानी संगीत जमीन है , स्वर का प्रभाव कर्नाटक संगीत में अधिक है, जबकि हिंदुस्तानी संगीत एक वर्ण संकर है , जिसका बेस तो शास्त्रीय कर्नाटक संगीत ही है जिसमे अरबी , पारसी , सहित बहुत से संगीत की मिलावट हो गयी है
Hello ma'am very nice explained I have very little knowledge of music and I teach small kids can you please help me how to teach kids easily..it's little difficult for me.. please help thanks...
Way off the mark about Carnatic music. It takes enormous guts to make a fool of yourself on a public platform but for the sake of Truth, please don't do such a shoddy job with little to no information or insights!
1. Carnatic: Southern and Original
2. Hindustani: Northern and Mixed
Language and Location makes are Difference as
North India Merged with Foreign having Persian influence.
I Listen to Classical Spiritual Sanskritic Natural Music.
You are : RACIST. NOTHING ELSE. HINDUSTANI IS ORIGINAL BEFORE UK FORCED HARMONIUM ON US OBVIOUSLY FOR BEING JEALOUS OF SUCH GREAT MUSIC. ABOVE ALL KARNATAK MUSIC SOUNDS BAD AND FUNNY 🤣😂 LIKE REALLY BAD.... WHO LISTENS TO IT ? 😂
Hello. I am a singer and I have learned both Carnatic classical vocal and Hindustani classical vocal. Here are some similarities and differences between both systems.
Similarities :
Both systems come from the samaveda
Both systems encourage improvisation
Both systems have a Tala structure and a raga structure
Differences:
Hindustani music is more prevalent in North India and it stretches out to Pakistan and Bangladesh.
Hindustani compositions are more raga based. Hindustani compositions are shorter than carnatic compositions. Languages sung in Hindustani music include: sanskrit, hindi, braj bhasha, Marathi, Gujarathi, Bengali, oriya, Manipur, Punjabi, kashmir, nepali, urdhu etc. Types of compositions that are sung besides pure classical include: bhajans, abhangs, shabads, ghazals, chaithis, kajris, jhoolas, thumris, dadras, rabindra Sangeet, nazrul geethi, (tappas) ( rarely heard these days) etc.. Pure Hindustani classical include: dhrupads, dhammars, thrivats, chathurangs(rarely heard these days)... Taranas are heard in a Hindustani recital. What we commonly hear today in a Hindustani recital is the "khayal gayaki"... Khayal is an Urdhu word for imagination or idea... "Khayal" came after dhrupad. There are two types of Khayal: "bada Khayal" and " chota Khayal." Bada Khayal" is synonymous with what is known as
"Vilambit". " Vilambit" means slow tempo. The " bandish" is taken to sing khayal. A "bandish" is a fixed composition to do improvisation upon. A "bandish" literally means to bind something together. A ""bandish" can be in Vilambit laya(slow tempo), madhya laya(medium tempo) or drut tempo(fast tempo). The "bandish" is taken to do various improvisational techniques such as alaap, bolalaap, bolthaan, behelawa, sargams, taan, etc...This is how a musician/singer shows his/her creativity /mastery in singing one raag for at least 40-50 minutes. It takes years and years of hard work and practice to do this. Both Hindu and Muslim artists perform Hindustani music. All Hindustani compositions don't have to be on God, they can be on radha Krishna Leela, Krishna Leela, seetha ram Leela, shiv parvathi ganesh pariwar, durga Mata, etc... they can be on nature, such as spring season, the sounds of the singing cuckoo bird, the rainy season, the monsoon season, etc... they can be about lovers missing each other, mother-in-law/daughter-in-law issues, etc..
Carnatic music is more prevalent in South India. It is prevalent in Tamil Nadu, Andhra pradesh, Telangana, Kerala, Karnataka and Sri. Lanka. Karnatik music used to be performed in temples in the olden days before it came to common settings. Karnatik music is bhakti based. Karnatik compositions are all on God. Karnatik music is composition based. Karnatik compositions are longer than Hindustani compositions. Carnatic music has what is called "kampitha gamakam," where as Hindustani music does not have this. Karnatik music has the concept of "Thani avarthanam" percussion solo whereas Hindustani music does not have this concept. The
" krithi"or"keerthana" is what is taken to do improvisations in carnatic music such as raga alapanai, nerval, and kalpana swarams. A student of Karnatik music learns many compositions before learning how to do improvisational techniques, while a Hindustani student will learn how to do simple improvisational techniques immediately after learning the composition. Other types of compositions in Karnatik music include : geethams, jathiswaram swarajathi, varnams, thillanas, jaavaLis etc..
Thank you
Thaala/Taal is very important in Carnatic but it's not impossible to sing without it..Alaapana/Alaap is done without any beat
Ma'am Carnatic music has lay in same speed but the number of swaras sung per beat. This is called gathi so there are different speeds in Carnatic as well
Wowowwww ! If there is one video that can spurt all the spurious facts about carnatic music, it's this. Lots and lots of misinformation about Carnatic music. Her aakaram rendition in Carnatic is rather mocking than actual representation.
Exactly. Crazy ppl. Highly misinformed and misleading.
Who told you that we can't sing carnatic music without percussion?
Not percussion but beats. Beats are necessary I guess? I'm Hindustani classical student and underinformed in carnatic.
@@deepakkimola4936 not like that bro we can sing if u hear raga alapana it does not contain thala(beat) infact before singing a keerthi (structural song) we sing raga alapana
Please let me explain. I have learnt both Carnatic vocal and Hindustani vocal. In carnatic vocal, a song can be sung without percussion accompaniment and one can even sing improvisations in carnatic music such as raga alapanai, nerval, and kalpana swarams without percussion without percussion accompaniment if it is for a singing competition or if it is just singing one song. This is because the carnatic vocalist will be putting thala in the hand and keeping track of the thala. If it is instrumental, such as Veena, violin or flute, he/she will be tapping the toe to keep the tala or someone experienced will be be putting the tala and the instrumentalists( Veena artist, flutist, violinist) will be watching that experienced person's thala. if one is singing for a half hour performance or more of carnatic music, or playing the Veena, violin, or flute for more than half an hour, then yes, one would definitely need percussion accompaniment. The performance will not sound good without the percussion along with the vocalist or only the main instrumentalist. In a performance, the raga alapanai is sung without the percussion, this section is between the vocalist or instrumentalist and the violinist. The kalpana swarams section is between the vocalist or instrumentalist and the percussion. And the nerval section is the collaboration of everyone together. Also, each person maintains or keeps their own Tala count in a carnatic recital. And, the whole Tala responsibility is not on percussionist in carnatic music. He is supposed to follow the main artist of the concert, the vocalist or instrumentalist. On the other hand, in Hindustani music, one can't really sing pure Hindustani classical without percussion. It would be kind of difficult to. And doing improvisations without percussion such as alaap, bolalaap, behelawa, boltaan, sargams, taan etc... in Hindustani music would be really difficult. One could probably sing lighter pieces such as bhajans, abhangs, shabads, ghazals, but not pure Hindustani classical without percussion because when singing or playing pure Hindustani classical, the artist depends on the percussion artist to give the correct parts of any particular Tala accurately and to show the parts of any given Tala such as the "Sam" "thali" and "Khali". The percussionist in a Hindustani recital also maintains the laya/tempo and the whole Hindustani recital is actually lead and maintained by the percussionist.
I hope this helps.
Very well explanation. Very easy to understand. Very useful information.
Pranam.
Thank you
Mam u r great thank you for great explanation of music knowledge pls make more video for beginners like us thank you
Radhe radhe 🌺
Very nice information thanks 🙏🙏🙏
Dhanyvad ..🙏
Thank you 💗 ma'am
Mam plz ek video Aap karnatak rag ko hindustani me aur hindustani rag ko karnatak me kya kahte hai Is par banaiye hindustani 10 that ko chhodkar wo to sab jagah mil jate hai 🙏
who said carnatic musicians dont have laya, we have strict layas than hindustani
She said, Carnatic music in only madham laya and she is also write. shankar mahadeven also told Carnatic music has only madham laya and he is trained in Carnatic classical music
@@sureshdevi5137
dear sir/mam
with all due respect
FYI she said carnatic musicians dont have laya, and in terms of Shankar sir , im pretty sure he hasnt said 'only' if he has then hes wrong.... and shankar sir may be trained in canatic music, if im not wrong he is not a full fledged carnatic music Vidwan......
so generalising a statement based on statements of 2 to 5 ppl is a wrong thing mam/sir😊😊😊😊
Great example
धन्यवाद 🙏🏻
It's karnataka Sangeeta not carnatik.
The mispronounced British called it Carnatic, but its real name is KARNATAKA SANGEETHA.
Your view of Carnatic music is very reductive and this is often a symptom of knowing very little about the subject. Almost everything you said about Carnatic music is either incomplete or plain wrong. Your commentary also comes across as calling Hindustani music better than Carnatic music. Both styles of music go back many many centuries and it is truly unfortunate how you have chosen to present this comparison in your video. Please educate yourself better on the topic.
Very well explained with examples. Thank you 🙏
For Carnatic classical songs, beats are not mandatory mam..
She knows nothing about carnatic music. She has seen some padosan movie a parody of South Indian classical musi lf you are ignorangt it is better to keep quiet instead of spreading false hood
Mam mai ek bahut bai sura insan ho mujhe music ki knowledge bhi nhi hai or paise bhi nhi lekin mai youTube ke sahaare seekh raha ho lekin koi farak nhi koi tips di ji please ke kaise awaaz ko sahi karo pls
Interesting di
Very nice
TQ mem
Carnataki thhat konse hai mam
Good👍
3:17 part more sounded like Tibetan than Carnatic.
tibetan have been influenced by south
And Karnataka is the only state in india where both hindustani and carnatic are practiced
Very nice explain Mam ap kya mujhe g shap ki proper frequency by swar meter bata sakte hai
Please, if possible select same ragaa, i.e. song having same notes , verse and taal, but present it in both hindustani and carnatic style. E.g. same song in raag hamsadwani or bhairavi etc..
Of couse this video was quite informative, well presented and your voice is v good.
Sure will try
यदि गुणवत्ता की बात करे और कर्नाटक संगीत आकाश है और हिंदुस्तानी संगीत जमीन है , स्वर का प्रभाव कर्नाटक संगीत में अधिक है, जबकि हिंदुस्तानी संगीत एक वर्ण संकर है , जिसका बेस तो शास्त्रीय कर्नाटक संगीत ही है जिसमे अरबी , पारसी , सहित बहुत से संगीत की मिलावट हो गयी है
Meadam Mahmood jee n HH wo manna Dey sahab hai 🤦🤦
Mam 3type classical music in India odissi classical music originated from odisha
Hello ma'am very nice explained
I have very little knowledge of music and I teach small kids can you please help me how to teach kids easily..it's little difficult for me.. please help thanks...
Start with shudh notes, paltas then paltas with taal and then basic raagas.
What is word of western
Her voice is so pure nd her explanation is very good
🤔🤔Why did they even create Karnatak classical music when we already had Hindustani ?? Especially when it sounds so bad and funny 😅
प्रणाम मैम 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Way off the mark about Carnatic music. It takes enormous guts to make a fool of yourself on a public platform but for the sake of Truth, please don't do such a shoddy job with little to no information or insights!
Mam please wear a classiical dress , u are sharing indian culture wearing foreign culture🙏🙏🙏
very nice