A good use case for PC would be to play 2D fighting games - since L and R buttons are pretty awful to use for punches and kicks, and people have always enjoyed the Saturn dpad.
Yeah, when it comes to a choice I’ve always preferred MegaDrive and Saturn for my 2D fighters for that very reason. The 6-button layout of the pads is so much better for fighting games.
just to give an update, they finally released the firmware for the USB receiver last night here in the US. For those that had a faulty USB or other issues, it will be very handy.
Appreciate the depth you went into concerning its usability in and out of gameplay. I was really tempted to get this for my PC, I really enjoyed using one of the new-ish usb genesis controllers for certain indie games (mainly 2d side scrollers.. Even rocket league haha) so I thought adding triggers and analog sticks would have expanded the games I could play. Glad I held off as I would've been conflicted with the triggers.
Yes it was a bit of a surprise that. I know the digital Model 2 pad it’s based on didn’t have analogue triggers, but if it’s trying to replicate the 3D controller which did have then it seems a little bit of a job half done.
You can use the analog sticks! I figured it out, at least with using Mednafen as an emulator. All you have to do is plug in the controller and launch a game. I used Nights. When the game starts press alt+shift and then press the number 1 on the keyboard. You can then map the controller. It maps all buttons, analog stick and a button for selecting analog mode. In the game press the button you used for selecting analog mode, I used select on the controller, and you can then use the analog stick. I did also update the firmware to the latest version.
Hello, I was looking for reviews of this, and found yours, and as you wondered about it much, I'll expose my own use case: I have this Surface Go3 tablet which is essentially a portable retro emulation platform, like on vacation, or plane/train. I want to be able to play games, be it Saturn, Megadrive, with the original control scheme, and also possibly whichever of my Steam games that could work on it. On my desktop PC, my default controller is a Hori EX2 Turbo, to fulfill that very need. If Hori's OCTA controller had dual analogs, I'd be using just that instead. As of now I had 2xSN30 Pro to go with this tablet, and since purchase, I'd always told myself if there ever was a rather flat (to fit within the case) 6-button layout controller with dual analogs, I'd go for it in a heartbeat. Because a game like Vampire Hunter, or even the SNES's Street Fighter 2 is a pain with the generic 4+2/4, same for Saturn games (and Megadrive, to a lesser degree). So this is right up my alley! The only thing I'm miffed about is their 2.4Ghz USB scheme instead of having both that and BT. That's definitely a bit niche, although generally I would rather have only 6 buttons layouts, be it desktop or tablet, or whatever else: the 6 buttons layout works well with 4 buttons schemes, not the other way around, simple as that. Additionally, I also don't understand why they've not aligned the size of the upper face buttons (XYZ) and the lower ones (ABC), as that's the original flaw of this controller, but that's just a mild issue. Still, I'm feeling well-inclined towards buying a pair of these controllers. Hopefully, they'll eventually finetune the design . Thanks for the review!
... Well, how about the real 3D Control Pad + USBSATURN adapter + emulator on PC = analog on PC? Good to hear it works! That's how I'll emulator, as I like that upscaled Saturn look...
I get mine tomorrow. I'll look into the "3D Mode" for PC with the analog sticks. I have a theroy on getting it to work in with X-input mode. I'll report back on what I figure out.
I think they tried to satisfy lots of people at once. In fairness, although I’ve owned one for 25+ years I never really liked the original 3D controller. And since this review I’ve used the RetroBit controller a lot. It’s not perfect, and the 3D sticks are a bit too small, but it’s become my default pad for Saturn and MegaDrive games.
why do i keep getting recommended too fake gaming channels like you that just do review stuff and unboxing that dont do letsp lays i am a lets play channel but i dont get recommended channels like me anymore
Hi, I'm sorry if you're unhappy with the content of the channel, but I do say in my bio that it's both a review channel and a gaming channel. My gaming videos hugely outnumber my review videos, only 47 reviews to 354 gaming videos so I'd hardly say I'm a fake gaming channel. You may have noticed a lot of review videos recently because, ironically, I spent most of the first half of this year producing gaming videos and I've gotten a little behind on product reviews. I'm nearly caught up, just one more due to go out in the next couple of days, and then I'll be finishing off the first in a line of my biggest gaming videos yet. I spent a week in Atlanta in May as a result of sim racing and I'll be back out there in October for more. Between now and then I've got something absolutely huge coming which I can't wait to share, and will explain why I've not done any sim racing videos for a while.
If you watch alot of sega saturn or reviews like this, then youre gonna get recommended channels like this. It aint his fault. It's the algorithm. Calling it fake is a bit uncalled for, when he's simply reviewing a controller for a retro system.
The best review of Retro-Bit Sega Saturn Pro Controller !!! , your desktop reminds me of my friend one :) AWESOME
Thank you. Appreciate the comments.
A good use case for PC would be to play 2D fighting games - since L and R buttons are pretty awful to use for punches and kicks, and people have always enjoyed the Saturn dpad.
Yeah, when it comes to a choice I’ve always preferred MegaDrive and Saturn for my 2D fighters for that very reason. The 6-button layout of the pads is so much better for fighting games.
just to give an update, they finally released the firmware for the USB receiver last night here in the US. For those that had a faulty USB or other issues, it will be very handy.
Well spotted. It’s available in the UK now too. It wasn’t there a couple of nights ago. Thanks, I’ll get that downloaded and installed.
Glad I didn't get one it should be plug and play on release. These companies need to do more testing before putting it out.
Appreciate the depth you went into concerning its usability in and out of gameplay. I was really tempted to get this for my PC, I really enjoyed using one of the new-ish usb genesis controllers for certain indie games (mainly 2d side scrollers.. Even rocket league haha) so I thought adding triggers and analog sticks would have expanded the games I could play. Glad I held off as I would've been conflicted with the triggers.
Yes it was a bit of a surprise that. I know the digital Model 2 pad it’s based on didn’t have analogue triggers, but if it’s trying to replicate the 3D controller which did have then it seems a little bit of a job half done.
Very thorough review! Thanks for the heads-up about PC compatibility. I'm considering getting this as a wireless controller for my Saturn.
You can use the analog sticks! I figured it out, at least with using Mednafen as an emulator. All you have to do is plug in the controller and launch a game. I used Nights. When the game starts press alt+shift and then press the number 1 on the keyboard. You can then map the controller. It maps all buttons, analog stick and a button for selecting analog mode. In the game press the button you used for selecting analog mode, I used select on the controller, and you can then use the analog stick. I did also update the firmware to the latest version.
We gotta put that update file in Internet archive just in case the site goes completely down in 10 or 20 years
I really like your room it's amazing and the controllers on the wall is interesting.
Hello, I was looking for reviews of this, and found yours, and as you wondered about it much, I'll expose my own use case: I have this Surface Go3 tablet which is essentially a portable retro emulation platform, like on vacation, or plane/train. I want to be able to play games, be it Saturn, Megadrive, with the original control scheme, and also possibly whichever of my Steam games that could work on it. On my desktop PC, my default controller is a Hori EX2 Turbo, to fulfill that very need. If Hori's OCTA controller had dual analogs, I'd be using just that instead.
As of now I had 2xSN30 Pro to go with this tablet, and since purchase, I'd always told myself if there ever was a rather flat (to fit within the case) 6-button layout controller with dual analogs, I'd go for it in a heartbeat. Because a game like Vampire Hunter, or even the SNES's Street Fighter 2 is a pain with the generic 4+2/4, same for Saturn games (and Megadrive, to a lesser degree).
So this is right up my alley! The only thing I'm miffed about is their 2.4Ghz USB scheme instead of having both that and BT. That's definitely a bit niche, although generally I would rather have only 6 buttons layouts, be it desktop or tablet, or whatever else: the 6 buttons layout works well with 4 buttons schemes, not the other way around, simple as that.
Additionally, I also don't understand why they've not aligned the size of the upper face buttons (XYZ) and the lower ones (ABC), as that's the original flaw of this controller, but that's just a mild issue.
Still, I'm feeling well-inclined towards buying a pair of these controllers. Hopefully, they'll eventually finetune the design .
Thanks for the review!
I love the dog in storm trooper armor
The dog is called Storm (although technically after Storm from the X-men) but it was too good an opportunity to miss.
I have this controller and the main issue I have is that L and R in either mode do not act as L and R on a Sega Saturn. You have to use ZL and ZR.
So informative. Thank you so much.
... Well, how about the real 3D Control Pad + USBSATURN adapter + emulator on PC = analog on PC?
Good to hear it works! That's how I'll emulator, as I like that upscaled Saturn look...
I get mine tomorrow. I'll look into the "3D Mode" for PC with the analog sticks. I have a theroy on getting it to work in with X-input mode. I'll report back on what I figure out.
Did you have any joy?
@@chrisjames2045 See my other comment in this videos comments sections. I explain how to get it to work.
can u do a video of ur controller mounts on the wall
I already have….here it is:
Which is Your Favourite? Building a History of Gaming Controllers Wall Display.
th-cam.com/video/XK_7SdyuTcA/w-d-xo.html
Well, now I won't buy a 3D control pad :D
thats VERY UGLY. why not the classical 3D one??? such overpriced is the plastic, seriously???
I think they tried to satisfy lots of people at once. In fairness, although I’ve owned one for 25+ years I never really liked the original 3D controller. And since this review I’ve used the RetroBit controller a lot. It’s not perfect, and the 3D sticks are a bit too small, but it’s become my default pad for Saturn and MegaDrive games.
why do i keep getting recommended too fake gaming channels like you that just do review stuff and unboxing that dont do letsp lays i am a lets play channel but i dont get recommended channels like me anymore
Hi, I'm sorry if you're unhappy with the content of the channel, but I do say in my bio that it's both a review channel and a gaming channel. My gaming videos hugely outnumber my review videos, only 47 reviews to 354 gaming videos so I'd hardly say I'm a fake gaming channel. You may have noticed a lot of review videos recently because, ironically, I spent most of the first half of this year producing gaming videos and I've gotten a little behind on product reviews. I'm nearly caught up, just one more due to go out in the next couple of days, and then I'll be finishing off the first in a line of my biggest gaming videos yet. I spent a week in Atlanta in May as a result of sim racing and I'll be back out there in October for more. Between now and then I've got something absolutely huge coming which I can't wait to share, and will explain why I've not done any sim racing videos for a while.
If you watch alot of sega saturn or reviews like this, then youre gonna get recommended channels like this. It aint his fault. It's the algorithm.
Calling it fake is a bit uncalled for, when he's simply reviewing a controller for a retro system.