I’m really wary about just assuming Valkyrie is going to be a love interest. I really hope she isn’t. Also, don’t we already have a couple female leads in this franchise that aren’t “underwritten girlfriends types”?
The movie is terribly written. What are you on. Thor's best friends die, one is missing, and he doesn't ask a question. Imagine if midway through Spider-Man 2 Harry Osborn would die in a car crash and Peter Parker would never even react to that. Abysmal writing.
Hey what's up you guys my name is Everett and I'm visually impaired completely and I do want to apologize in advance if this text comes out weird it's not me it's because my phone has voice over and the voiceover doesn't get everything sometimes but yeah you know the first one was one of my is one of my favorite movies of all time and I really do not like Ragnarok I know everybody dies but I just didn't I feel like it took him in a completely 180 Direction you know they made him way too funny the problem is is that when Guardians of the Galaxy came out that supposed to be funny because it's supposed to match the tone of that movie but the problem is is that the tone of that movie blood into all the other movies and it didn't match the tone that it was previously established before I didn't like Ragnarok I thought it was lame I thought that you know him losing his hammer and then cutting his hair stalked and then to reverse that in Infinity war and give him an axe which was all right I guess but you know I just feel like the first one is the best one out of the three because that's who he is you know he's a God and he's supposed to be taking like a god the problem is is that in the third one they made him an idiot they made him way too funny and I couldn't have any emotion during the emotional scenes that were supposed to be emotional because they would just put a joke in there right after
I managed to avoid all ads and trailers for this movie ... and when I went to see it, every moment was fantastic, esp when ... oh my! ... when The Master was saying "THE INCREDIBLE .....", I was whispering in my mind in amazement / excitement: the "Hulk?" ... best surprise ever :D
I read through many of the comments and no one noticed a MOMUMENTAL plot hole in the movie. The fight with Hela would have lasted a whole 3 seconds if only Valkarie had brought along those non-lethal weapons of hers. She bagged Thor twice with those things. They probably even used them on the hulk, I mean how did they catch him? So ridiculous, why not bring them along for hela?!?
I know I'm hella late (no pun intended) but the reason valkyrie left Asgard after the battle is because her girlfriend died saving her (it's shown in the flashback)
thor didn't become my favourite character from the first 2 films but thx to the first Avengers movie in 2012 that's what truly made him my favourite. Happy we now also have a good thor movie too.
I know I'm in the minority, which means that the studio made the right decision by their larger audience too so what they did, but I was a much bigger fan of the more serious, dramatic and Hulk. One's supposed to be a literal god, and the other is practically a god. Some of Ragnarok's jokes felt like gags at the expense of the characters.
One thing I really didn't enjoy about Ragnarok was how the guys who I think were Thor's close friends were killed off and treated like after thoughts. There was also the scene with that one guy getting executed where I think Thor was a little less objective and having a more childish reaction to someone being painfully killed in front of him. Though it seems like superheros being able to easily and near completely ignore terrible things going on around them is par for the course these days.
I left the theatre going "wow finally Thor got some personality of his own instead of always just Loki" so yeah I totally agree with everything you said about Thor's character here :)
Well, I didn't enjoy Ragnarok very much at all, but I have to agree with your point about the Thor/Loki dynamic in this film. It really was better than in the two films before it. I guess my main problem with the Thor movies is that the people making them don't seem to get that you can have absurdity, and also have gravitas to go with it, which is strange, since movies like Ghostbusters and the Matrix have been doing it for ages. I felt this movie was much too comedic in general, didn't take itself nearly seriously enough, considering the shattering events that take place during it. It seemed to want to bash, smash and destroy everything in Thor's canon, but without treating any of that wanton destruction with the seriousness that it deserves. In a way, it reminded me of the Joker; causing havok and mayhem with a great, big smile. And yes, I know you didn't mention the villain, but throughout the whole movie, I just kept wondering to myself, why she couldn't have been given more of an alien, dispassionate presence, like Gozer, if she was going to be that kind of threat. The most terrifying villains are the ones who seem different, inhuman and unknowable in some way, which is especially easy to pull off with a diety-level villain. I just don't see why they decided to make Hela such a lame villain. As for the Hulk, I was generally okay with him, though I would have preferred if there'd been more of an explanation of how he suddenly changed as a person, and started chatting up a storm. Or, you know, any explanation at all. Sakaar was goofy, but in a way, I really don't mind that as much. Had it been the comic relief setting of an otherwise-serious movie, I would have raised no issue with it, but I just didn't feel like it added much to the mood of the film, even if it was a nice place to visit, and very well-designed. Through it all, I've yet to see any situation in which Thor has demonstrated the strong, heroic presence that he had in the comics, which apart from the kind of techno-settings of Asgard, may be the biggest loss. Larger-than-life heroes are not exactly a dime a dozen in fiction anymore, and it's a pity that Thor couldn't have been one.
On the topic of Thor 3 - the trailer is a great example of everything not to do in a trailer. It spoiled Hulk. It spoiled mewmew's destruction. I haven't watched it in a while but I wouldn't be surprised if it spoiled Odin's death. I like trailers that are like "alien" - I get that studios want engagement and to do that they need to reveal hints or spoilers in their trailers, but it completely ruins the movie going experience
I didn't really like Thor Ragnarok. It was okay but I thought a movie about the end of the world would have me care more than I did. The things I did like such as the comedy and the visuals were superficial elements that I gladly would have traded for a better plot. I know there are lots of people who think Marvel movies are too jokey and this was the first that really made me feel that way. It also didn't help that as a fan of the comics I was let down by many character portrayals like Hela, Korg and especially Meik. BTW did they ever say Grandmaster is related to the Collector and Ego like in the comics? Just curious cause if so we can expect to see more of him in the future and more Golblum would be great.
I saw Thor 3 only a week ago, and I loved it. This one felt more like a Flash Gordon movie. The only problem I had with it was the casting for Valkyrie. It should've been a blonde bombshell, and a woman who had some chemistry with Thor. The end shouldn't hinted that they were pairing up and would rule over the Battlestar Asguard together.
Great Video, and i think it is also true that this movie was the best but i think its hard to see how Taika Waitit isnt mentioned in this video! he is the reason the movie turned out the way it did. He decided to change the original script to remove common tropes from previous MCU movies and then he directed the acting in his comedic style allowing free form dialogue inspired by the script and only sticking to the script in one scene (Thor and Loki in the elevator). Taika Waititi's directing cant be understated, take him out and you have a very different movie. P.S he is also the voice of Korg
Just watching the video should answer the question for you but if not a simple google search does. Captain Midnight was originally a radio serial and later a 50s television show. www.imdb.com/title/tt0046585/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
There is a fan theory that during a flashback fight with Hela, another (blond) Valkyrie threw (Tessa) Valkyrie into a convenient wormhole that sent her to Sakaar. Thus, allowing Valkyrie to live in exile where Thor finds her, (sort of).
I honestly used to not care much bout Thor and hulk. They were like the not VIP characters to me until this movie came. Now they 2 are one of my fav. Characters
100% agree. I just watched in for the third time. I think Winter Soldier, Black Panther, and Guardians 1 are the only other ones I'm willing to re-watch. After Ragnarok I actually WANT to see more Thor movies. I know they like trilogies but I think most of the time the third one is enough. This opened up Thor for me for another several movies.
Let's please note that Ragnorak was directed by the director of What We Do in the Shadows. Hilarious vampire mockumentory featuring New Zealanders like the Flight of the Conchords.
I thought Valkarie was looking like a love interest for Banner, not Thor. I'm actually curious now what people thought on that. Great vid though man. Love your enthusiasm and approach.
I am so sick of people saying this was the best Thor movie because it wasn’t in any way! It was funny. It was a not bad movie. But wasn’t amazing! It’s just an mcu movie it doesn’t fit Thor.... the first Thor movie fit a sci-fi/ fantasy tone, fit into the mcu, was a good movie and created the most beloved mcu villain. Thor Ragnarok *spoilers* killed important side characters without blinking an eye despite trying to have a light hearted happy go luck tone, didn’t take a break from the jokes to mourn anything (unlike guardians of the galaxy 2), completely changed Thor’s personality, had nothing about Sif, brushes off Odin’s bad dad stuff like it was no big deal, barely fleshed out a interesting villain and last and most important didn’t tell Bruce Banner than Hulk *killed* people!!! But the Doctor Strange part was good!
"important side characters” And you already lost me. "didn’t take a break from the jokes to mourn anything” Oh yeah, it totally didn’t have a scene that depicted Thor literally praying that Odin would reach Valhalla. "brushes off Odin’s bad dad stuff like it was no big deal” What, you mean the entire reason the plot happens? Even Odin recognized how much he fucked up. "and most important didn’t tell Bruce Banner than Hulk killed people” I don’t understand your priorities. This is the type of criticism that shouldn’t be payed attention to.
Luke Jolly “This is the type of criticism that shouldn’t be payed attention to.” Then my only query is; why did you respond? I wrote that when I still cared... now I just the movie it isn’t as amazing everyone else does and that the comedy is out of place. I’m sorry for liking fantasy...
Might be an unpopular opinion on this, but I'd rather they go in the direction of making Valkyrie a love interest for Hulk instead of Thor. Thor was saddled down by his Jane Foster romance in the first two films, and he was a lot of fun in Ragnarok. And unlike Tony and Pepper Potts, Thor felt very defined by being in a relationship. I'd like to see him fly solo and get development outside of romance. More than that, I really liked the interaction Valkyrie and Hulk/Bruce Banner than I did her with Thor.
Thor Ragnarok is one of my favorite MCU MOVIES !! It has great action , comedy , some serious moments , and is about 2 of the strongest Marvel Characters for peaks sake !! What happened to going to a movie to get away from this stress filled reality we live in for 2hrs ?? Like what's wrong with that ?? It's what this movie achieves brilliantly!!!
Actually, I think Thor Ragnarok destroyed the first two movies - NOT in a good way. You can really tell there was no real dialog scripted. Thor possessed by Peewee Herman? Even Lebowski Thor was a step up.
I don’t understand what are people’s problem with the first 2 Thor films. Everyone has their preferences and opinions, but I think people are over-analyzing and over-criticizing the films. The first two were about character development. I found Asgard majestic and stunning. It was the first time audiences were shown a world beyond Earth in the MCU, and I thought they did a good job. The small desert town was a nice contrast to the splendor of Asgard, but I guess there’s no pleasing some people. Can’t make everyone happy. To me Thor matured a lot in the first film, and in the second we got to enjoy that matured Thor. Thor 2 introduced one of the Infinity Stones, and shows off it’s power. People complain about some of the villains in the MCU, like they are going to extend from movie to movie. They did that with X-men, and I hated it. They kept using Magneto over and over, beating a dead horse. Some of the villains are meant to be one shots. The films revolve around a pivotal moment in these character’s lives, such as dealing with a problem, not them going to the toilet. Jane Foster is just meant to be the girlfriend, that played out and now there is a more potentially interesting love interest. One that can contribute. Jane could not have done what Valkyrie does in Ragnarock. Including her was paying homage to the source material. One of the complaints about the MCU is the lack of deaths, as if there is no consequences. To my knowledge, The Dark World is only the second film to kill off a supporting character that is not a villain. Frigga, Thor’s mother is killed, that’s significant, and it’s a step to Odin’s death. The films are an arc of Thor’s development and the evolution of Asgard from a high point to destruction, and hopefully rebirth. Assuming the refugee Asgardians aren’t all killed by Thanos, I’m assuming they were headed to that place in Norway where Odin says is home. I personally love all of the Marvel movies, except the Incredible Hulk. I don’t include that one. Of course there are some things I would do differently, but I’m not making the movies. If y’all want to complain about something, complain about the DC cinematic universe. There is plenty there to complain about. Or complain about how Disney jacked up Star Wars. Now that’s something to complain about.
I wish the Ragnarok part had been kept as a separate movie - or better - used to violate expectations by putting it off screen. The gladiator world was a thousand times better. And the comedy destroyed the dramatic tension. I loved the humour but they didn't understand how to make it work with the drama.
Jeez, talk about people who are easily pleased. Ragnorok looked great but Thor isn't a fkin comedian for a start. 'Jokes' were shoehorned in everywhere! Right at the beginning all of the tension in the opening scene was gone with 'comedy' Thor. Even Banner was turned into a comedian?? And the final [tragic] scene with the death of all those Asgardians and we get Watiti throwing out yet ANOTHER joke?! Just shows; 1) How dumbed downed people. 2) That most knew nothing about how Thor is in the comics. And all they needed to see was a great- looking movie with very good action and a weak script but with loads of (mainly forced out of place) comedy as a brilliant film.
Cliff Smith l feel the same. Its ok, nothing special. I actually read thor for years. And his comedy came from being the "serious" one all the time. I'm starting to think l'm the only one who liked the dark world for what it was...
Valkrye's entrance was pure STUPIDITY. Ragnarok had too much lame ass slap stick. Wait so Thor can take a punch from the Hulk but get floored by a ball bouncing off of a wall or Thor's the god of Thunder but a little shock is all it takes to subdue him GTFOH. This movie was three-year-old toddler silly. So Disneys money making scheme is Oh No we dont have good writers...So lets add stupid slap-stick so Basic people can laugh and spend all their money re-watching . Yeah that it!
I need more emotion, Father died, not mad at Loki for it, do mot discuss it, Asgard destroyed, just laugh it off like it wasn't important, nor did they mourn the people who died,
I hate 'Thor: Ragnarok' too... but I don't think it's Chris Hemsworth's fault. Taika Waititi decided to make Thor "awesome" by neutering Loki rather than developing Thor. Whether Waititi got directions from above to relegate Loki to comic relief by studio execs who were miffed that so many fans thought Loki was superior to Thor as a character is unknown... but at this point, nothing from Ike Perlmutter would surprise me.
Most people I know including myself, prefer the Thor movies over any of the others. They did the best job with that series. The way they tweaked his character was great
I personaly didn't like Ragnarok at all. Such a serious topic like the end of the world turned into a joke. All of Thor's best friends died in a flash and all of those asgardians too without a single tone of sadness. It was like oh, well no big deal. Everything built in the first two movies was scrabbed. Thor's relationship with Jane Foster was so seriously focused and now - well she dumpped me... at least they should have discarted the character with some style. The end was so lame 4 against 100000 and Hella. Asgard dead and again - oh well it is a people not a place, like some joke. I'm sorry, but thor should have been a more serious movie, as teased in Age of Ultron. Odin's death, Hella, Ragnarok... a comedy. I am sooo disappointed with this movie. The second was way better in and added to the story. This one felt separate from the first two and Thor was a clown. Kate did a great job with Hella, but was let to waste... My oppinion of course.
Lucho Kostov that was my one gripe that I can recall with the movie his best friends litterally died. Jane foster didn’t want to be part of Thor so I understand I guess they didn’t want change actress so she “dumped Thor”
Both Thor movies were solid IMHO. I'd say the *BEST* movies within Marvel's cinematic universe are the 1st "Iron Man", "Winter Soldier" and "Civil War". I'm a big fan of "Dr. Strange" as well.
It's like they finally let Chris Hemsworth put himself into the character like Chris Pratt, Benedict Cumberbatch and Robert Downey Jr. did. You know, like when people say, Iron Man is basically Robert Downey Jr as a superhero. Or Starlord is Chris Pratt in space. Or that Doctor Strange is basically Benedict Cumberbatch. I'm glad they finally realized what they had with this cast.
It's obvious . The way Thor act nervous around her them obviously giving each other the flirty eyes and having sexual tension when escaping sakaar . Plus I think I remember Tessa saying she was casted as the new love interest
I agree also. In fact, I really hope they *don't* become love interests. I don't think they are particularly compatible that way -- I don't think they'd ever let themselves be vulnerable and open to each other the way that a deeper, romantic relationship necessitates. I also think it would, to much of the audience, cheapen Valkyrie's character. Intentionally or not, it would reduce her value and role in the MCU to the eyes of many as just another love interest. How many women can we think of in action movies that play a decently important role? How many of those are or became love interests? How many of them retained their importance to the plot since becoming a love interest? I can't think of many. But there's plenty more out there that serve next to no purpose other than as a love interest. Minimal value or agency of her own. Sure, Black Widow became Bruce's love interest, but because they rarely ever talk about it or make it a large plot point, and because of her relationship with Steve, in particular, her value to the story is not reduced. She has more parts to play and is still valued, as seen in Civil War. Although, that also created the problem of a half-assed romance side story. We get next to nothing on her romance with Bruce and the Hulk. It can calm the Hulk down, but we get little else than that. I don't want to risk Valkyrie becoming regulated one of the many "underwritten-superhero-girlfriend type" as captainmidnight mentioned referring to Jane.
One thing each Thor movie did very well too me was show the complex relationship between the members of Thor's family. Especially between Odin and his sons as his expectations of them were what drove them against each other. You never quite believe that Loki hates Odin.
Loki had always been jealous of Thor because he always felt second best. He was angry because Thor was going to be made king despite his obvious incompetence, which I think is just another reason he thought Odin favored Thor. THEN he discovered he was adopted and I think honestly all that happened was that he overreacted. In his mind, that was the reason Odin preferred Thor over him and all his actions after that have just been him trying to prove himself. He doesn't hate Odin but I think he hates what Odin made him feel.
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GrandmasterCadillac 905 Ragnarok failed miserably when adding a familial element. Odin turned into pixie dust for christ sakes. Shit on top of more shit. Don't get me wrong i enjoyed Rag for what it was a low rent GOTG which did it much better.
My Opinion, Thor 1 and 2 depicted Thors character perfectly. They used indirect humor, Ragnarok wad a total comedy even Thor became a comedian. His persona was drastically changed. Never felt the Ragnarok was happening while watching the movie.
Yeah, there is something about her that doesn't gel with me. She's got the looks and the talent obviously, yet everything I've seen her in has felt a little cringy or just maybe she doesn't pick the right movies to act in. She was fine in the star wars prequels because she was already working with mediocre material.
Portman is over rated. Name one romantic lead that she ever had any chemistry with. That can (not) happen by no fault of anyone of course, but when HASN'T this been the case with Portman? Star Wars (any), Thor (any) "V" for Vendetta, Annihilation-zero chemistry with her alleged love interests. Now that her bloom has clearly faded, we'll see if those acting chops she is said to possess are accurate, or her eye candy aspect helped to compensate.
The Dark World was pretty bad until the last half hour or so when things actually started happening. Portman looked like she wanted to be anywhere else in the world.
ThePrimith I enjoyed it as well, but Loki really propped it up. The relationship between Thor and Loki has been a centrepiece for the MCU for a good reason!
Because she clearly is into Thor, as he is into her romantically. Taika Watiti even equates their blowing up Sakaarian war ships during their escape to a mating dance/courtship proposal of sorts. that's as blatant as you can get in such an early point in the Valor friendship.
I think a lot of the movies success was from the director Taika waititi. He's a New Zealand director and I've seen a couple of his films and they've all been hilarious, his comedic tone and his great directing skills was the best thing to happen to the Thor franchise.
I saw What We Do In The Shadows years ago and never realized he directed Thor Ragnarok until like the 3rd time I watched it. He definitely has a unique style and you can tell everyone has a lot of fun working with him.
I’ll admit I think that the first Thor movie is very underrated, I genuinely love it. Thor 2 is quite forgettable though with probably the worst villain in the MCU. It’s ok but definitely one of the weaker entries. Thor 3 is easily the best.
Jane Foster, Darcy Moron and naked Erik what's-his-face almost capsized Thor 2. I wish I had the means to edit them out and to also put back in four deleted scenes. Alan Taylor was certainly a better pick for director than Patty Jenkins but he doesn't know how to do comedy or "sciency" stuff. Jenkins wanted to make Thor 2 into a Jane Austen movie.
Liam Stobie hell no. I disagree. Civil War had the worst villain. Iron Man 2 & 3 was also had bad villains. Ant man as well. Look at age of ultron. He was bad too. Homecoming had two great Spider-Man villains but they made them super gay. One dies within 2 mins of screen time and the other doesn’t even have super powers. Wtf man.
I keep hearing by people how "every dramatic scene is underminded by comedy" and have to ask myself: did we see the same movie? Yeah, Thor 3 is incredibly comedic but the emotionally loaded scenes had absolutely no comedy attatched: - Odin's death is played extremely serious, he has a gut wrenching moment with his kids and then fades out of existence, Thor is visually pissed and Loki is devestated. There's zero comedy in there - Heimdall saving the citizens of Asgaard is taken serious as hell and creates a lot of tension - The Hulk turning back into Banner when seeing Widow talking to him actually made me feel sad for the character - Valkyrie's past during her fight with Loki has no joke attatched either and underlines her tragic origins so really...the movie didn't hurt it's serious scenes with Comedy. After hearing all the outcry over the humor I was surprised the film didn't have more jokes than it ultimately had It's almost as if people jump every opportunity they have to find a flaw they can exploit
These scene were too short and they were followed by jokes immediately. This is the thing that frustrate me most - they had good scenes that were supposed to be emotional, but they didn't give it a second to sink in. Believe it or not, I don't spend good money out of my hardly above minimum wage to watch a movie just so I could bitch about it later. I genuinely didn't enjoy it at all. Every second there was a joke or physical humor and everything is taken so lightly that I don't know how can anyone take anything in this movie seriously.
+JRD Are you kidding me? Thor and Loki probably had the best chemistry in this movie out of any of them. Thor finally stopped putting up with Loki’s bullshit and Loki finally realized he can’t be fulfilled by betraying Thor over and over and over again. They both grew as people and came back as real brothers, brothers with baggage, but brothers all the same.
Hmmm. I'm genuinely surprised the first Thor movie doesn't get more love. The stuff said here about Thor, and Asgard is a little off. The way Asgard is shown especially in the first film, is magnificent. Giant golden structures, beautiful rainbow bridge, Majestic Bifrost with a view into the colorful starry cosmos. The colors popped in a lot of more organic ways in the second film with elements of a Game of Thrones aesthetic thrown in. In many ways Thor Ragnarok is borrowing the same "lived in" colorful world already established in the Guardians films, and looks to be repeated to an extent in the upcoming Black Panther film. Dark world was a little weak, but the first Thor film was very solid. The only thing that seems to be different in Ragnarok is the tone is lighter, the characters are lighter, and the film has a more improvisational comedy vibe which doesn't always work. I personally liked Ragnarok, but the lore established in the first film, and the performances from Anthony Hopkins, and Tom Hiddleston's breakout portrayal of Odin and Loki really makes the first Thor film my favorite.
The problem is that the MCU has a habbit of funny protagonists. Thor is decidely not a comedic character in the comics. He's a grave character that doesn't really fit the MCU tonally.
@@tuffdude7795 that's an opinion. I liked Ragnarok and so on but, I prefer his original version. the original just doesn't fit well into the MCU tone which is the problem.
@@TGPDrunknHick That is fine to like it better. It just gets annoying when people try to say it isn't exactly like the comics as if that is a valid criticism.
This movie was so fun that I went from "meh, something to tide me over until another avengers" like the previous two movies to "who cares about avengers give me more Thor and Guardians of the Galaxy".
No, Natalie Portman underserved the Thor franchise and didn't want to return FOR Thor: The Dark World, not after it. Once Patty Jenkins was no longer attached to the project she didn't want to be in it either and that was reflected in her performance.
Exactly how I feel. All of Asgard is at the brink of destruction and Thor is hanging upside down cracking jokes non stop... If he doesn't take Ragnarok seriously, when will Thor ever be serious?
JRD honestly it's the exact opposite I'm pretty sure. I had literally no interest in the cliched 'serious fantasy adventure' tone of Thor before this, but after this movie I have actual interest in Thor. I think that must be the reason opinion is so split on this movie. The majority of people don't really care about the source material or previous movies, so to them this is awesome. But if for some weird reason Thor-canon is the hill you wanna fight over, this looks like sacrilege
Thor lost everything that was unique about him. I't's not Thor anymore. It's just another character named "Thor". I know you don't care, but well. Let's just call it as it is.
JRD What longevity? The first 2 Thor films are two of the most mediocre or terrible superhero films. I don’t even remember most of what happens in Thor 2 until after Loki is involved with helping Thor.
I'm not saying Ragnarok is as good or better than the Winter Soldier. I'm saying that Ragnarok really made Thor into what he should be and made people like him. Before the Winter Soldier, nobody cared about Captain America, that movie made him relevant. Ragnarok did the same to Thor and actually made people like him.
Thor losing his eye was a metaphor for Odin losing his eye. Odin gave up his eye for wisdom or for some truth, Thor losing his eye signified that he finally recognized the truth that the people matter, not the name or location. Him losing his eye represented him moving on from the loss of his Father and his Hammer and willingly taking the role as the ruler of Asgard (the people). Odin initially was a Warlord, but he then realized that Hela's War would never end so he locked her up and threw away the key. History is written for the winners and Odin took this chance. Ragnarok has the main cast dealing with their past in a certain way, Hulk/Banner confronted his past by seeing that video of Black Widow. Valkyrie found Solace in her's by realizing that she has to confront Hela, and Loki has to move on after being accepted by Thor for who he is. Thor needed to recover though, he lost two members of his family in one day (Mjolnir and Odin) but he never lets that bring him down, he accepts and realizes the truth that Odin knew when he lost his eye. For all the talk people give Ragnarok about it not giving enough emotional space, it offers good ideals and messages to live by. "Asgard is not a place, it is a people." This is said in the movie but it's expressed alot in the end. Marvel went with comedy this to play it safe and it worked out. Suprise! The Thor and Loki dynamic was waaay better in this movie than the others. I always wonder why people think that Shakespearian Thor is soooo much better than getting Chris Hemsworth Thor? But at the end of the day, you guys are you, and I'm me. Comedy never ruined Thor: Ragnarok, the last two movies weren't anything special, but Ragnarok brought something new to the table; value. I never cared about Asgard or anything else in the last two movies, but I did after seeing Ragnarok. "Asgard is not a place, it is a people." Those were valuable words to me, they gave me the message that things matter when your friends and family are there with you. That's a good ideal to live by. Things won't ever be the same.
exactly and credit should go to taika waititi for balancing humor but also tragedy as it's a common theme with all of his other films. plus, i loved the fact that the characters we had seen before are given a chance to grow up. loki finally having to let go of his jealousy and insecurities to help the people of asgard while thor finally accepting the role he has to do and hoping he doesn't repeat the mistakes that his father had done. it was all going well in the end until..... thanos.
@@thevoid99 Get out of here, there's no balance in this farce of a movie aimed at 10 year olds. Grow up? They did the exact opposite...holy shit, I'm out.
I found Thor: Ragnarok to be very entertaining, but recognize why some people hated it: Instead of being too dramatic and dull, it was swung to the opposite extreme. That made the Planet Hulk part of the film pure gold, but the parts with Hela and Asgard should have been approached with more dramatic flair.
exactly. Also there was much more dramatic potential with hulk. Like Thor who lied to both of his sides that he liked hulk more or banner, just bc he needed the other one at this moment. I feel there was so much potential, which would have made the film great for more audiences. Also the loki and thor relationship in the light of hela. Loki is like look our dad is just an ass belive me now and thor doesn't seem to care as much about it. It's there but really in the background I wish they embraced the full potential of a perfect marriage of drama and humor, instead of going haha deep moment interrupted haha.
I loved the move but *Spoiler,be warned* i loved even more when they mocked "Banner heroically falls down,crasheds unhumanly and hulks out of the crater" cliché, i bursted out laughing when he got himself pancaked like a moron, Even Fernir's like "TF? Eeeeh dosen't seem like my problem" lol
I genuinely hated that moment. It's the worst moment of the entire film. They spend the middle part of the movie establishing that Banner doesn't exist anymore inside Hulk and that he's terrified to transform again. Doing so could mean the practical "death" of Bruce Banner forever. His decision to change into Hulk was a dramatic moment of self-sacrifice that should've had gravitas and sincerity. It was as serious/sad as, say, Stark flying the nuke through the portal. Instead they made a rag doll joke. Bathos at its absolute worst.
In real life, heroism isn't perfectly choreographed with your enemies responding with fear and trembling exactly as you would want them to, on cue. It's the same thing I liked about GOTG:1 - it adds a perfectly realistic level of subversion-of-expectations humor that would make perfect sense if the characters didn't know they were in a movie and bound by movie rules to always execute the cliche's perfectly. So it's fine by me.
king Thor nah dude. They make movies to appease the general audience. People who read the comics were pretty angry that ragnarok was such a joke of a movie. Sure it was good. But all the jokes ruined the movies. This could have been the best MCU film to date if they had been a bit serious at times like when asgard was destroyed or when the army was killed off.
Here's my question: what inspired you to go with the old-fashioned radio show Captain Midnight persona? And why did you decide to put classic cartoon and commercial clips in your videos? I'm really curious, because I feel like those are the two biggest things that make your channel stand out.
Sorry but the first Thor movie was awesome. Stopped you video right there... if you can't see a difference between the first 2 films I don't want to know what you have to say
I read Valkryie as gay or bi. Her wife/lover was killed protecting her and that's why she left. She was traumatized and the direction that odin took Asgard made her feel disrespected.
The only thing Thor Schlocknarock destroyed was Thor himself. What a garbage movie. I'd call its director a certified hack, but that goes without saying. Can Chris Nolan or Zack Snyder reboot this miserable franchise and make it an epic saga about Norse Thundergod riding into battles with his bretherens to protect all the realms from evil and unkind beings? Oh, and have Thor actually speak like Thor of the comics, with all the "aye" and "thee nay" archaisms? Thanks.
shinigami "oouh trump is a racist sexist mysoginist that wants to destroy the world!! " is that it? Because that went out of fashion like 9 months ago. And people mock it because it was as serious as this movie.
Marcos Recio oh no, trump is all of that. Is not a fashion is the fucking truth. I'm not from the us, and even in my country we were scared shitless about trump being a fucking baby against higher powers.
Guess I'm one of the few who loved the Thor comics and the first two movies, so I have no love for Ragnarok. If I want camp I'll watch the old Batman show I grew up watching. Ragnarok was played for the quick and easy laugh, and to appeal to the short attention spans that now exist. So it's filled with silly sight gags, easy one-liners, and circus side show characters, the worst of which is the Grand Master, in which Jeff Goldblum was paid to be Jeff Goldblum. This story line wastes Thor's closest companions, treating them more like The Three Stooges than The Warriors Three, inept and ineffectual. I had high hopes for Ragnarok, but they were all dashed on the rocks of a cheap and easy laugh.
i liked thor: the dark world also. the villain was generic, but it was still a fun marvel movie. if it had been released a few years earlier, it probably would've been more successful.
I honestly feel that Ragnarok's comedy actually hit me more genuinely than any joke in the Guardians of the Galaxy films as much as I love them as well. But the thing I do like about those movies is that they know when to stop quiet for a second and let a dramatic moment play out and when to jump back into the comedy when it's done. Kinda feel like a lot of dramatic tension is either lost or cut short a bit too fast like in SPOILERS SPOILERS. Odin's death scene. And that wasn't really undercut by comedy something just felt a little downplayed with it. That said if you hate the look of this movie then you hate the look of the classic comics and that's disrespecting the history that made this universe in the first place. Much of it was crazy and colorful and right out of Kirby's art and if anything in the film I appreciated that a lot. I'm glad that we're finally getting to the point where film makers aren't scared to embrace the comic bookiness of comic books.
i think the jokes hit more because we've gotten so used to grim gloomy Thor that seeing him joke around and be silly is is such a surprise that it makes it ten times funnier.
Screw history. We learn from the past. We shouldn't celebrate it just because it _is_ past. Read "The Lottery" to understand why it's a bad idea to do things just because they were done before.
It's a shame that Hela is still just a completely worthless plot and character. She's still the best villain of Thor's movies, but considering her competition is a faceless hollow robot and the dark elf so forgettable I refuse to believe anyone can remember one detail of, that's not much of a compliment. Still, she's so bad that even the movie seems aware of it, making her inclusion more of an afterthought in the movie that just sort of stumbles into a resolution by the end with a line so cringe I'd swore I'd leapt back in time to that old Thor cartoon.
What happened was they made a Thor movie for people who don't like Thor. Remove the grandeur and consequences, keep the exact same plot as the first movie and throw in a bunch of grade school level jokes.
Thor is my favorite Marvel movie. The brother storyline with Loki was something that really spoke to me. I thought Thor 1 Jane was an enjoyable character. Thor II was a little here and there, but Thor Ragnorak truly hit the spot for me.
TALK! ABOUT! TAIKA! WAITITI!!!!! He's the director of Thor: Ragnarok and he's the reason the film is so comic and zany. Liked the character Korg?? Yeah that's because it was played by him, and Taika put a true kiwi twist on the character, (that accent is an exaggerated Maori one, if you were wondering) Here in New Zealand we all love Taika and are so proud of his success with Ragnarok. A true kiwi icon.
I *loved* the original Thor movie. I loved the focus on Asgard and the fact that Jotunheim, not Earth, was the place Loki wanted to destroy. I find it beautiful both thematically and visually. The Dark World, however, suffered from some poor writing. I feel the film focused too much on Loki at the expense of the actual villain, and the amazing Chris Eccleston was criminally underused. Ragnarok is very entertaining, but it saddens me that it had to come at the expense of everything that came before. The original Thor is by far my favorite.
Srsly... this is the second video in a row in which the title says "Ragnarok destroyed Thor" and is actually about how amazing Ragnarok is. Bleh... I actually AM on that line of thinking that Ragnarok DESTROYED Thor's franchise. I like my Thor to be in Shakespearian fashion, thank you very much.
"I like loki and I'm glad he's still around" The feels....
That aged poorly
He'll be back, probably
Ahahahaha (cries)
#infinitywar
*sob*
I’m really wary about just assuming Valkyrie is going to be a love interest. I really hope she isn’t.
Also, don’t we already have a couple female leads in this franchise that aren’t “underwritten girlfriends types”?
Yes, Black Widow, Wanda, and Agent 13.
The movie is terribly written. What are you on. Thor's best friends die, one is missing, and he doesn't ask a question. Imagine if midway through Spider-Man 2 Harry Osborn would die in a car crash and Peter Parker would never even react to that. Abysmal writing.
The first Thor is underrated
Ethan Gibson Yes, honestly I'd have to say the first Thor aged the best out of all the phase one standalones.
Hey what's up you guys my name is Everett and I'm visually impaired completely and I do want to apologize in advance if this text comes out weird it's not me it's because my phone has voice over and the voiceover doesn't get everything sometimes but yeah you know the first one was one of my is one of my favorite movies of all time and I really do not like Ragnarok I know everybody dies but I just didn't I feel like it took him in a completely 180 Direction you know they made him way too funny the problem is is that when Guardians of the Galaxy came out that supposed to be funny because it's supposed to match the tone of that movie but the problem is is that the tone of that movie blood into all the other movies and it didn't match the tone that it was previously established before I didn't like Ragnarok I thought it was lame I thought that you know him losing his hammer and then cutting his hair stalked and then to reverse that in Infinity war and give him an axe which was all right I guess but you know I just feel like the first one is the best one out of the three because that's who he is you know he's a God and he's supposed to be taking like a god the problem is is that in the third one they made him an idiot they made him way too funny and I couldn't have any emotion during the emotional scenes that were supposed to be emotional because they would just put a joke in there right after
The first Thor is one of my favorites of the original marvel movies
I managed to avoid all ads and trailers for this movie ... and when I went to see it, every moment was fantastic, esp when ... oh my! ... when The Master was saying "THE INCREDIBLE .....", I was whispering in my mind in amazement / excitement: the "Hulk?" ... best surprise ever :D
Q/A: What mic and editing software do you use?
Audacity and one of those $8 usb mics from Walmart.
Will the $8 usb mic from Walmart make captainmidnight sound like he isn't going through his fourth year of puberty?
Harsh man. Harsh.
captainmidnight ahhh you’re making me feel bad. I watch all of your videos. It’s good stuff Cap
captainmidnight It's all right man haha. I too started out with my webcam and stuff
Ragnarok is definitely what made me fall in love with Thor in the MCU.
You should do a collaborate with Godzilla mendoza
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zBruda it would be perfect
_erv gotbandz_ no. I hate mendoza
zBruda why
_erv gotbandz_ his attitude and voice.
I read through many of the comments and no one noticed a MOMUMENTAL plot hole in the movie. The fight with Hela would have lasted a whole 3 seconds if only Valkarie had brought along those non-lethal weapons of hers. She bagged Thor twice with those things. They probably even used them on the hulk, I mean how did they catch him? So ridiculous, why not bring them along for hela?!?
I know I'm hella late (no pun intended) but the reason valkyrie left Asgard after the battle is because her girlfriend died saving her (it's shown in the flashback)
thor didn't become my favourite character from the first 2 films but thx to the first Avengers movie in 2012 that's what truly made him my favourite. Happy we now also have a good thor movie too.
I know I'm in the minority, which means that the studio made the right decision by their larger audience too so what they did, but I was a much bigger fan of the more serious, dramatic and Hulk. One's supposed to be a literal god, and the other is practically a god. Some of Ragnarok's jokes felt like gags at the expense of the characters.
Best video yet, you really did the movie justice and tied it off nice in the end :D
One thing I really didn't enjoy about Ragnarok was how the guys who I think were Thor's close friends were killed off and treated like after thoughts. There was also the scene with that one guy getting executed where I think Thor was a little less objective and having a more childish reaction to someone being painfully killed in front of him. Though it seems like superheros being able to easily and near completely ignore terrible things going on around them is par for the course these days.
I left the theatre going "wow finally Thor got some personality of his own instead of always just Loki" so yeah I totally agree with everything you said about Thor's character here :)
Well, I didn't enjoy Ragnarok very much at all, but I have to agree with your point about the Thor/Loki dynamic in this film. It really was better than in the two films before it. I guess my main problem with the Thor movies is that the people making them don't seem to get that you can have absurdity, and also have gravitas to go with it, which is strange, since movies like Ghostbusters and the Matrix have been doing it for ages.
I felt this movie was much too comedic in general, didn't take itself nearly seriously enough, considering the shattering events that take place during it. It seemed to want to bash, smash and destroy everything in Thor's canon, but without treating any of that wanton destruction with the seriousness that it deserves. In a way, it reminded me of the Joker; causing havok and mayhem with a great, big smile.
And yes, I know you didn't mention the villain, but throughout the whole movie, I just kept wondering to myself, why she couldn't have been given more of an alien, dispassionate presence, like Gozer, if she was going to be that kind of threat. The most terrifying villains are the ones who seem different, inhuman and unknowable in some way, which is especially easy to pull off with a diety-level villain. I just don't see why they decided to make Hela such a lame villain.
As for the Hulk, I was generally okay with him, though I would have preferred if there'd been more of an explanation of how he suddenly changed as a person, and started chatting up a storm. Or, you know, any explanation at all.
Sakaar was goofy, but in a way, I really don't mind that as much. Had it been the comic relief setting of an otherwise-serious movie, I would have raised no issue with it, but I just didn't feel like it added much to the mood of the film, even if it was a nice place to visit, and very well-designed.
Through it all, I've yet to see any situation in which Thor has demonstrated the strong, heroic presence that he had in the comics, which apart from the kind of techno-settings of Asgard, may be the biggest loss. Larger-than-life heroes are not exactly a dime a dozen in fiction anymore, and it's a pity that Thor couldn't have been one.
On the topic of Thor 3 - the trailer is a great example of everything not to do in a trailer. It spoiled Hulk. It spoiled mewmew's destruction. I haven't watched it in a while but I wouldn't be surprised if it spoiled Odin's death.
I like trailers that are like "alien" - I get that studios want engagement and to do that they need to reveal hints or spoilers in their trailers, but it completely ruins the movie going experience
I didn't really like Thor Ragnarok. It was okay but I thought a movie about the end of the world would have me care more than I did. The things I did like such as the comedy and the visuals were superficial elements that I gladly would have traded for a better plot. I know there are lots of people who think Marvel movies are too jokey and this was the first that really made me feel that way.
It also didn't help that as a fan of the comics I was let down by many character portrayals like Hela, Korg and especially Meik.
BTW did they ever say Grandmaster is related to the Collector and Ego like in the comics? Just curious cause if so we can expect to see more of him in the future and more Golblum would be great.
Dude, I love your retro segues.
Love your Videos! How much time do you spend developing these videos? Is it like your full time gig?
I saw Thor 3 only a week ago, and I loved it. This one felt more like a Flash Gordon movie. The only problem I had with it was the casting for Valkyrie. It should've been a blonde bombshell, and a woman who had some chemistry with Thor. The end shouldn't hinted that they were pairing up and would rule over the Battlestar Asguard together.
I reckon if you keep this up you will hit critical mass soon captainmidnight, this time in a year you will have 100k subs :D
That’d be amazing :)
Thanks for watching!
I loved Loki's reactions to the Hulk scenes.
Great Video, and i think it is also true that this movie was the best but i think its hard to see how Taika Waitit isnt mentioned in this video! he is the reason the movie turned out the way it did. He decided to change the original script to remove common tropes from previous MCU movies and then he directed the acting in his comedic style allowing free form dialogue inspired by the script and only sticking to the script in one scene (Thor and Loki in the elevator). Taika Waititi's directing cant be understated, take him out and you have a very different movie.
P.S he is also the voice of Korg
For the Q and A, where did you get that name from....Captain Midnight?
Just watching the video should answer the question for you but if not a simple google search does. Captain Midnight was originally a radio serial and later a 50s television show.
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There is a fan theory that during a flashback fight with Hela, another (blond) Valkyrie threw (Tessa) Valkyrie into a convenient wormhole that sent her to Sakaar. Thus, allowing Valkyrie to live in exile where Thor finds her, (sort of).
You've gotta give Kiwi writer/director/actor Taika Waititi some credit here. Fully hope he does some more Marvel films.
I honestly used to not care much bout Thor and hulk. They were like the not VIP characters to me until this movie came. Now they 2 are one of my fav. Characters
100% agree. I just watched in for the third time. I think Winter Soldier, Black Panther, and Guardians 1 are the only other ones I'm willing to re-watch. After Ragnarok I actually WANT to see more Thor movies. I know they like trilogies but I think most of the time the third one is enough. This opened up Thor for me for another several movies.
I actually really liked Thor : The Dark World...
Let's please note that Ragnorak was directed by the director of What We Do in the Shadows. Hilarious vampire mockumentory featuring New Zealanders like the Flight of the Conchords.
Keep up the good vids :)
I thought Valkarie was looking like a love interest for Banner, not Thor. I'm actually curious now what people thought on that. Great vid though man. Love your enthusiasm and approach.
I love Natalie Portman but I feel that she was the problem with the first 2 movies. Her chemistry with Chris and her entire energy was lacking.
For me i think you finally see Chris comfortable in the role, able to put his best into it. By far the best Thor and one of the best Mavel
I am so sick of people saying this was the best Thor movie because it wasn’t in any way! It was funny. It was a not bad movie. But wasn’t amazing! It’s just an mcu movie it doesn’t fit Thor.... the first Thor movie fit a sci-fi/ fantasy tone, fit into the mcu, was a good movie and created the most beloved mcu villain. Thor Ragnarok *spoilers* killed important side characters without blinking an eye despite trying to have a light hearted happy go luck tone, didn’t take a break from the jokes to mourn anything (unlike guardians of the galaxy 2), completely changed Thor’s personality, had nothing about Sif, brushes off Odin’s bad dad stuff like it was no big deal, barely fleshed out a interesting villain and last and most important didn’t tell Bruce Banner than Hulk *killed* people!!! But the Doctor Strange part was good!
I agree.
"important side characters” And you already lost me.
"didn’t take a break from the jokes to mourn anything” Oh yeah, it totally didn’t have a scene that depicted Thor literally praying that Odin would reach Valhalla.
"brushes off Odin’s bad dad stuff like it was no big deal” What, you mean the entire reason the plot happens? Even Odin recognized how much he fucked up.
"and most important didn’t tell Bruce Banner than Hulk killed people” I don’t understand your priorities.
This is the type of criticism that shouldn’t be payed attention to.
Luke Jolly “This is the type of criticism that shouldn’t be payed attention to.” Then my only query is; why did you respond? I wrote that when I still cared... now I just the movie it isn’t as amazing everyone else does and that the comedy is out of place. I’m sorry for liking fantasy...
You killed this review/explanation. I now want to go see the movie again haha.
Might be an unpopular opinion on this, but I'd rather they go in the direction of making Valkyrie a love interest for Hulk instead of Thor. Thor was saddled down by his Jane Foster romance in the first two films, and he was a lot of fun in Ragnarok. And unlike Tony and Pepper Potts, Thor felt very defined by being in a relationship. I'd like to see him fly solo and get development outside of romance. More than that, I really liked the interaction Valkyrie and Hulk/Bruce Banner than I did her with Thor.
BARELY MENTIONS HELA!!! For me the best part! LOL
Thor Ragnarok is one of my favorite MCU MOVIES !! It has great action , comedy , some serious moments , and is about 2 of the strongest Marvel Characters for peaks sake !! What happened to going to a movie to get away from this stress filled reality we live in for 2hrs ?? Like what's wrong with that ?? It's what this movie achieves brilliantly!!!
Actually, I think Thor Ragnarok destroyed the first two movies - NOT in a good way. You can really tell there was no real dialog scripted. Thor possessed by Peewee Herman? Even Lebowski Thor was a step up.
I don’t understand what are people’s problem with the first 2 Thor films. Everyone has their preferences and opinions, but I think people are over-analyzing and over-criticizing the films. The first two were about character development. I found Asgard majestic and stunning. It was the first time audiences were shown a world beyond Earth in the MCU, and I thought they did a good job. The small desert town was a nice contrast to the splendor of Asgard, but I guess there’s no pleasing some people. Can’t make everyone happy. To me Thor matured a lot in the first film, and in the second we got to enjoy that matured Thor. Thor 2 introduced one of the Infinity Stones, and shows off it’s power. People complain about some of the villains in the MCU, like they are going to extend from movie to movie. They did that with X-men, and I hated it. They kept using Magneto over and over, beating a dead horse. Some of the villains are meant to be one shots. The films revolve around a pivotal moment in these character’s lives, such as dealing with a problem, not them going to the toilet. Jane Foster is just meant to be the girlfriend, that played out and now there is a more potentially interesting love interest. One that can contribute. Jane could not have done what Valkyrie does in Ragnarock. Including her was paying homage to the source material. One of the complaints about the MCU is the lack of deaths, as if there is no consequences. To my knowledge, The Dark World is only the second film to kill off a supporting character that is not a villain. Frigga, Thor’s mother is killed, that’s significant, and it’s a step to Odin’s death. The films are an arc of Thor’s development and the evolution of Asgard from a high point to destruction, and hopefully rebirth. Assuming the refugee Asgardians aren’t all killed by Thanos, I’m assuming they were headed to that place in Norway where Odin says is home. I personally love all of the Marvel movies, except the Incredible Hulk. I don’t include that one. Of course there are some things I would do differently, but I’m not making the movies. If y’all want to complain about something, complain about the DC cinematic universe. There is plenty there to complain about. Or complain about how Disney jacked up Star Wars. Now that’s something to complain about.
Thor 3 sucks and will always sucks!!!
What changed it sucked.
I wish the Ragnarok part had been kept as a separate movie - or better - used to violate expectations by putting it off screen. The gladiator world was a thousand times better. And the comedy destroyed the dramatic tension. I loved the humour but they didn't understand how to make it work with the drama.
Personally what I loved about the 3rd Thor movie is a kind of reminding me of the old eighties Flash Gordon movie.😁
I personally hated Thor: Ragnarock
Jeez, talk about people who are easily pleased. Ragnorok looked great but Thor isn't a fkin comedian for a start. 'Jokes' were shoehorned in everywhere! Right at the beginning all of the tension in the opening scene was gone with 'comedy' Thor. Even Banner was turned into a comedian?? And the final [tragic] scene with the death of all those Asgardians and we get Watiti throwing out yet ANOTHER joke?! Just shows; 1) How dumbed downed people. 2) That most knew nothing about how Thor is in the comics. And all they needed to see was a great- looking movie with very good action and a weak script but with loads of (mainly forced out of place) comedy as a brilliant film.
Anyone else just not satisfied with this movie? The director added way too much humor and totally glazed over very important info to tell more jokes.
Cliff Smith l feel the same. Its ok, nothing special. I actually read thor for years. And his comedy came from being the "serious" one all the time. I'm starting to think l'm the only one who liked the dark world for what it was...
Valkrye's entrance was pure STUPIDITY. Ragnarok had too much lame ass slap stick. Wait so Thor can take a punch from the Hulk but get floored by a ball bouncing off of a wall or Thor's the god of Thunder but a little shock is all it takes to subdue him GTFOH. This movie was three-year-old toddler silly. So Disneys money making scheme is Oh No we dont have good writers...So lets add stupid slap-stick so Basic people can laugh and spend all their money re-watching . Yeah that it!
I need more emotion, Father died, not mad at Loki for it, do mot discuss it, Asgard destroyed, just laugh it off like it wasn't important, nor did they mourn the people who died,
Exactly it was all silly and no real emotion or script
I hate 'Thor: Ragnarok' too... but I don't think it's Chris Hemsworth's fault. Taika Waititi decided to make Thor "awesome" by neutering Loki rather than developing Thor. Whether Waititi got directions from above to relegate Loki to comic relief by studio execs who were miffed that so many fans thought Loki was superior to Thor as a character is unknown... but at this point, nothing from Ike Perlmutter would surprise me.
hopefully, there's another thor trilogy, one that focuses on valkyrire as thor or jane foster as thor
Most people I know including myself, prefer the Thor movies over any of the others. They did the best job with that series. The way they tweaked his character was great
I personaly didn't like Ragnarok at all. Such a serious topic like the end of the world turned into a joke. All of Thor's best friends died in a flash and all of those asgardians too without a single tone of sadness. It was like oh, well no big deal. Everything built in the first two movies was scrabbed. Thor's relationship with Jane Foster was so seriously focused and now - well she dumpped me... at least they should have discarted the character with some style. The end was so lame 4 against 100000 and Hella. Asgard dead and again - oh well it is a people not a place, like some joke. I'm sorry, but thor should have been a more serious movie, as teased in Age of Ultron. Odin's death, Hella, Ragnarok... a comedy. I am sooo disappointed with this movie. The second was way better in and added to the story. This one felt separate from the first two and Thor was a clown. Kate did a great job with Hella, but was let to waste... My oppinion of course.
Name one of Thor’s friends without googling it.
Lucho Kostov that was my one gripe that I can recall with the movie his best friends litterally died. Jane foster didn’t want to be part of Thor so I understand I guess they didn’t want change actress so she “dumped Thor”
I don't think the Thor films should be funny. They're just god's and myths
I own Thor 1 , I will never own Ragnarok.
Both Thor movies were solid IMHO. I'd say the *BEST* movies within Marvel's cinematic universe are the 1st "Iron Man", "Winter Soldier" and "Civil War". I'm a big fan of "Dr. Strange" as well.
I love thor movie more than ironman tho.
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Yes, as a matter of fact. To be quite frank, I prefer Norton than Ruffalo to this day.
It's like they finally let Chris Hemsworth put himself into the character like Chris Pratt, Benedict Cumberbatch and Robert Downey Jr. did.
You know, like when people say, Iron Man is basically Robert Downey Jr as a superhero. Or Starlord is Chris Pratt in space. Or that Doctor Strange is basically Benedict Cumberbatch.
I'm glad they finally realized what they had with this cast.
IamXhedo well i think that chris hemsworth has always been a great thor
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"Yeah, lets turn Thor into every other MCU character!"
Tyler Eschberger exactly the contrary of what they did with Thor in Ragnarok, but ok.
comics-movie studios i forgot to respond, but yeah, i agree. I just liked him more this time.
Also, Valkyrie was not a love interest and should not be. Not every female and male on screen need to be in a relationship.
+M Noir I agree, maybe I’m being needlessly cynical but that just seems like something a blockbuster franchise would do.
M Noir You have to admit though, Hulk and Valkyrie had some interesting chemistry in the film.
Lord Berserker that was more a best friend/brotherly kinda vibe to me.
It's obvious . The way Thor act nervous around her them obviously giving each other the flirty eyes and having sexual tension when escaping sakaar . Plus I think I remember Tessa saying she was casted as the new love interest
I hope she ends up with Lady Sif
I really really doubt Valkyrie is the romantic interest. I doubt they will go there from now on, actually.
I still want Sif and Thor to be back together still =(
Am I the only one who ships Valkyrie and Hulk/Banner?
why not?
Lodogg 3323 Valkyrie is bisexual so it's very possible she could get into a relationship with one of the men.
I agree also. In fact, I really hope they *don't* become love interests. I don't think they are particularly compatible that way -- I don't think they'd ever let themselves be vulnerable and open to each other the way that a deeper, romantic relationship necessitates. I also think it would, to much of the audience, cheapen Valkyrie's character.
Intentionally or not, it would reduce her value and role in the MCU to the eyes of many as just another love interest. How many women can we think of in action movies that play a decently important role? How many of those are or became love interests? How many of them retained their importance to the plot since becoming a love interest? I can't think of many. But there's plenty more out there that serve next to no purpose other than as a love interest. Minimal value or agency of her own.
Sure, Black Widow became Bruce's love interest, but because they rarely ever talk about it or make it a large plot point, and because of her relationship with Steve, in particular, her value to the story is not reduced. She has more parts to play and is still valued, as seen in Civil War. Although, that also created the problem of a half-assed romance side story. We get next to nothing on her romance with Bruce and the Hulk. It can calm the Hulk down, but we get little else than that.
I don't want to risk Valkyrie becoming regulated one of the many "underwritten-superhero-girlfriend type" as captainmidnight mentioned referring to Jane.
One thing each Thor movie did very well too me was show the complex relationship between the members of Thor's family. Especially between Odin and his sons as his expectations of them were what drove them against each other. You never quite believe that Loki hates Odin.
GrandmasterCadillac 905 It's a love hate relationship
I don't think Loki hates him. I just think he's deeply hurt.
Loki had always been jealous of Thor because he always felt second best. He was angry because Thor was going to be made king despite his obvious incompetence, which I think is just another reason he thought Odin favored Thor. THEN he discovered he was adopted and I think honestly all that happened was that he overreacted. In his mind, that was the reason Odin preferred Thor over him and all his actions after that have just been him trying to prove himself. He doesn't hate Odin but I think he hates what Odin made him feel.
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GrandmasterCadillac 905 Ragnarok failed miserably when adding a familial element. Odin turned into pixie dust for christ sakes. Shit on top of more shit. Don't get me wrong i enjoyed Rag for what it was a low rent GOTG which did it much better.
My Opinion, Thor 1 and 2 depicted Thors character perfectly. They used indirect humor, Ragnarok wad a total comedy even Thor became a comedian. His persona was drastically changed.
Never felt the Ragnarok was happening while watching the movie.
You’re not wrong. While Thor 1 and 2 perfected Thor (although 2 underdeveloped him, so let’s blame it on the writers), Ragnarok made him more likable
Answerable in three words: No Natalie Portman. She is a good actress but she and Hemsworth have zero chemistry together.
Boe Dillard If she read that burn she'd be a vegetable.
Yeah, there is something about her that doesn't gel with me. She's got the looks and the talent obviously, yet everything I've seen her in has felt a little cringy or just maybe she doesn't pick the right movies to act in. She was fine in the star wars prequels because she was already working with mediocre material.
Portman is over rated. Name one romantic lead that she ever had any chemistry with. That can (not) happen by no fault of anyone of course, but when HASN'T this been the case with Portman?
Star Wars (any), Thor (any) "V" for Vendetta, Annihilation-zero chemistry with her alleged love interests. Now that her bloom has clearly faded, we'll see if those acting chops she is said to possess are accurate, or her eye candy aspect helped to compensate.
@@matthewronson5218 I thought she was great in Black Swan
Or... “no more earth” . Actually I guess “barely any earth”
At long last, someone who tolerates Thor: The Dark World as much as I do!
Thor the Dark World was my favorite
Poirot's Mustache That about sums up how anyone feels about _Thor: The Dark World_
The Dark World was pretty bad until the last half hour or so when things actually started happening. Portman looked like she wanted to be anywhere else in the world.
I don't know why people disliked Thor 2. I'd have to say that it's my third favorite so far.
ThePrimith I enjoyed it as well, but Loki really propped it up. The relationship between Thor and Loki has been a centrepiece for the MCU for a good reason!
Why does everyone think that Valkyrie and Thor are going to hook up? She's clearly way more into Hulk.
Actually Banner is the one who loves Black Widow. On the other hand it seems like The Hulk feels more comfortable with Valkerie
Actually, Valkyrie was confirmed to be gay.
Lightspeed she is bi
Jerry Tang shhhhhhhhhhhh
Because she clearly is into Thor, as he is into her romantically. Taika Watiti even equates their blowing up Sakaarian war ships during their escape to a mating dance/courtship proposal of sorts. that's as blatant as you can get in such an early point in the Valor friendship.
I think a lot of the movies success was from the director Taika waititi. He's a New Zealand director and I've seen a couple of his films and they've all been hilarious, his comedic tone and his great directing skills was the best thing to happen to the Thor franchise.
I'm a Kiwi and Taika is our legit national hero.
He's also New Zealander of The Year
Gregory Tookey dd
Tank you! I was disappointed the video did not mention Taika once (I missed it if it did)
I saw What We Do In The Shadows years ago and never realized he directed Thor Ragnarok until like the 3rd time I watched it. He definitely has a unique style and you can tell everyone has a lot of fun working with him.
I’ll admit I think that the first Thor movie is very underrated, I genuinely love it. Thor 2 is quite forgettable though with probably the worst villain in the MCU. It’s ok but definitely one of the weaker entries. Thor 3 is easily the best.
Jane Foster, Darcy Moron and naked Erik what's-his-face almost capsized Thor 2. I wish I had the means to edit them out and to also put back in four deleted scenes. Alan Taylor was certainly a better pick for director than Patty Jenkins but he doesn't know how to do comedy or "sciency" stuff.
Jenkins wanted to make Thor 2 into a Jane Austen movie.
Liam Stobie hell no. I disagree. Civil War had the worst villain. Iron Man 2 & 3 was also had bad villains. Ant man as well. Look at age of ultron. He was bad too. Homecoming had two great Spider-Man villains but they made them super gay. One dies within 2 mins of screen time and the other doesn’t even have super powers. Wtf man.
Lot's of people liked the first Thor. Some people have a very short memory.
Yes. Christopher Eccelston had more potential than what was displayed in the movie.
Alixia Ding A great actor and great villain wasted. Malekith is a cool character in the comics.
I keep hearing by people how "every dramatic scene is underminded by comedy" and have to ask myself: did we see the same movie? Yeah, Thor 3 is incredibly comedic but the emotionally loaded scenes had absolutely no comedy attatched:
- Odin's death is played extremely serious, he has a gut wrenching moment with his kids and then fades out of existence, Thor is visually pissed and Loki is devestated. There's zero comedy in there
- Heimdall saving the citizens of Asgaard is taken serious as hell and creates a lot of tension
- The Hulk turning back into Banner when seeing Widow talking to him actually made me feel sad for the character
- Valkyrie's past during her fight with Loki has no joke attatched either and underlines her tragic origins
so really...the movie didn't hurt it's serious scenes with Comedy. After hearing all the outcry over the humor I was surprised the film didn't have more jokes than it ultimately had
It's almost as if people jump every opportunity they have to find a flaw they can exploit
These scene were too short and they were followed by jokes immediately. This is the thing that frustrate me most - they had good scenes that were supposed to be emotional, but they didn't give it a second to sink in. Believe it or not, I don't spend good money out of my hardly above minimum wage to watch a movie just so I could bitch about it later. I genuinely didn't enjoy it at all. Every second there was a joke or physical humor and everything is taken so lightly that I don't know how can anyone take anything in this movie seriously.
JRD holy shit who put such a massive stick up your ass bro?
+JRD Are you kidding me? Thor and Loki probably had the best chemistry in this movie out of any of them. Thor finally stopped putting up with Loki’s bullshit and Loki finally realized he can’t be fulfilled by betraying Thor over and over and over again. They both grew as people and came back as real brothers, brothers with baggage, but brothers all the same.
JRD you don't sound much like a writer if you prefer for characters to remain static rather than have them develope.
The Widow part was so emotianal, I cried.
Hmmm. I'm genuinely surprised the first Thor movie doesn't get more love. The stuff said here about Thor, and Asgard is a little off. The way Asgard is shown especially in the first film, is magnificent. Giant golden structures, beautiful rainbow bridge, Majestic Bifrost with a view into the colorful starry cosmos. The colors popped in a lot of more organic ways in the second film with elements of a Game of Thrones aesthetic thrown in. In many ways Thor Ragnarok is borrowing the same "lived in" colorful world already established in the Guardians films, and looks to be repeated to an extent in the upcoming Black Panther film.
Dark world was a little weak, but the first Thor film was very solid. The only thing that seems to be different in Ragnarok is the tone is lighter, the characters are lighter, and the film has a more improvisational comedy vibe which doesn't always work. I personally liked Ragnarok, but the lore established in the first film, and the performances from Anthony Hopkins, and Tom Hiddleston's breakout portrayal of Odin and Loki really makes the first Thor film my favorite.
The problem is that the MCU has a habbit of funny protagonists. Thor is decidely not a comedic character in the comics. He's a grave character that doesn't really fit the MCU tonally.
@@TGPDrunknHick He doesn't have to be exactly the same as he is in the comics. The direction they took Thor made him a much better character.
@@tuffdude7795 that's an opinion. I liked Ragnarok and so on but, I prefer his original version. the original just doesn't fit well into the MCU tone which is the problem.
@@TGPDrunknHick That is fine to like it better. It just gets annoying when people try to say it isn't exactly like the comics as if that is a valid criticism.
Thor was my favorite Phase 1 movie (not counting Avengers). Thor 3 was my favorite Phase 3 movie (not counting Infinity War).
This movie was so fun that I went from "meh, something to tide me over until another avengers" like the previous two movies to "who cares about avengers give me more Thor and Guardians of the Galaxy".
No, Natalie Portman underserved the Thor franchise and didn't want to return FOR Thor: The Dark World, not after it. Once Patty Jenkins was no longer attached to the project she didn't want to be in it either and that was reflected in her performance.
I loved the first Thor movie
Me too man...I feel they kind of rekt thor's character, they did keep it too at the same time, no balance in seriousness with the comedy in this one
Exactly how I feel. All of Asgard is at the brink of destruction and Thor is hanging upside down cracking jokes non stop... If he doesn't take Ragnarok seriously, when will Thor ever be serious?
@@n90skid Nope, because serious Thor doesn't have dumb and cringey humour aimed at small children.
The short answer is: "they made it interesting"
It's going to pass the first two at the box office.
JRD honestly it's the exact opposite I'm pretty sure. I had literally no interest in the cliched 'serious fantasy adventure' tone of Thor before this, but after this movie I have actual interest in Thor. I think that must be the reason opinion is so split on this movie. The majority of people don't really care about the source material or previous movies, so to them this is awesome. But if for some weird reason Thor-canon is the hill you wanna fight over, this looks like sacrilege
Thor lost everything that was unique about him. I't's not Thor anymore. It's just another character named "Thor". I know you don't care, but well. Let's just call it as it is.
they made it a joke. a big pile of worthless jokes
JRD What longevity? The first 2 Thor films are two of the most mediocre or terrible superhero films. I don’t even remember most of what happens in Thor 2 until after Loki is involved with helping Thor.
Ragnarok is to Thor as Winter Soldier is to Captain America
No way loll
Not even close. More like Batman and robin
The winter soldier is milles ahead from any MCU movie.. Ragnarok was visually stunning but with dumb childish humor..
I'm not saying Ragnarok is as good or better than the Winter Soldier. I'm saying that Ragnarok really made Thor into what he should be and made people like him. Before the Winter Soldier, nobody cared about Captain America, that movie made him relevant. Ragnarok did the same to Thor and actually made people like him.
Frosted Wheat Thins this is not What Thor should be. He was never like this in the comics.
"I'm glad Loki's still around"
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Thor losing his eye was a metaphor for Odin losing his eye. Odin gave up his eye for wisdom or for some truth, Thor losing his eye signified that he finally recognized the truth that the people matter, not the name or location. Him losing his eye represented him moving on from the loss of his Father and his Hammer and willingly taking the role as the ruler of Asgard (the people). Odin initially was a Warlord, but he then realized that Hela's War would never end so he locked her up and threw away the key. History is written for the winners and Odin took this chance. Ragnarok has the main cast dealing with their past in a certain way, Hulk/Banner confronted his past by seeing that video of Black Widow. Valkyrie found Solace in her's by realizing that she has to confront Hela, and Loki has to move on after being accepted by Thor for who he is. Thor needed to recover though, he lost two members of his family in one day (Mjolnir and Odin) but he never lets that bring him down, he accepts and realizes the truth that Odin knew when he lost his eye.
For all the talk people give Ragnarok about it not giving enough emotional space, it offers good ideals and messages to live by.
"Asgard is not a place, it is a people." This is said in the movie but it's expressed alot in the end.
Marvel went with comedy this to play it safe and it worked out. Suprise! The Thor and Loki dynamic was waaay better in this movie than the others. I always wonder why people think that Shakespearian Thor is soooo much better than getting Chris Hemsworth Thor? But at the end of the day, you guys are you, and I'm me.
Comedy never ruined Thor: Ragnarok, the last two movies weren't anything special, but Ragnarok brought something new to the table; value. I never cared about Asgard or anything else in the last two movies, but I did after seeing Ragnarok. "Asgard is not a place, it is a people." Those were valuable words to me, they gave me the message that things matter when your friends and family are there with you. That's a good ideal to live by. Things won't ever be the same.
Dragonderp69 And then shortly after they leave Asgard, Thanos cAme a knockin.
That "one eye" says a lot more than you think it does. So does the Eye of Horus, another pagan god. THAT is the primary occultic reference.
Until Infinity war where it had no impact
exactly and credit should go to taika waititi for balancing humor but also tragedy as it's a common theme with all of his other films. plus, i loved the fact that the characters we had seen before are given a chance to grow up. loki finally having to let go of his jealousy and insecurities to help the people of asgard while thor finally accepting the role he has to do and hoping he doesn't repeat the mistakes that his father had done. it was all going well in the end until..... thanos.
@@thevoid99 Get out of here, there's no balance in this farce of a movie aimed at 10 year olds. Grow up? They did the exact opposite...holy shit, I'm out.
I found Thor: Ragnarok to be very entertaining, but recognize why some people hated it: Instead of being too dramatic and dull, it was swung to the opposite extreme. That made the Planet Hulk part of the film pure gold, but the parts with Hela and Asgard should have been approached with more dramatic flair.
exactly. Also there was much more dramatic potential with hulk. Like Thor who lied to both of his sides that he liked hulk more or banner, just bc he needed the other one at this moment. I feel there was so much potential, which would have made the film great for more audiences.
Also the loki and thor relationship in the light of hela. Loki is like look our dad is just an ass belive me now and thor doesn't seem to care as much about it. It's there but really in the background I wish they embraced the full potential of a perfect marriage of drama and humor, instead of going haha deep moment interrupted haha.
I loved the move but *Spoiler,be warned* i loved even more when they mocked "Banner heroically falls down,crasheds unhumanly and hulks out of the crater" cliché, i bursted out laughing when he got himself pancaked like a moron, Even Fernir's like "TF? Eeeeh dosen't seem like my problem" lol
hahaha i laughed out of breath watching that scene
I loved how Fernir was confused and just walked pass him haha
I genuinely hated that moment. It's the worst moment of the entire film. They spend the middle part of the movie establishing that Banner doesn't exist anymore inside Hulk and that he's terrified to transform again. Doing so could mean the practical "death" of Bruce Banner forever. His decision to change into Hulk was a dramatic moment of self-sacrifice that should've had gravitas and sincerity. It was as serious/sad as, say, Stark flying the nuke through the portal.
Instead they made a rag doll joke. Bathos at its absolute worst.
I think tragedy and humour can go hand in hand in real life, so I didn't mind it at all in the film.
In real life, heroism isn't perfectly choreographed with your enemies responding with fear and trembling exactly as you would want them to, on cue. It's the same thing I liked about GOTG:1 - it adds a perfectly realistic level of subversion-of-expectations humor that would make perfect sense if the characters didn't know they were in a movie and bound by movie rules to always execute the cliche's perfectly. So it's fine by me.
As a Thor fan, Ragnarok was so refreshing.
puffwad this has nothing to do with Thor. Thor fans are the last thing Disney has in mind when shatting out this things
What?
Yes but why they had to make him look like his father?
+Marcos Recio doubt that
king Thor nah dude. They make movies to appease the general audience. People who read the comics were pretty angry that ragnarok was such a joke of a movie. Sure it was good. But all the jokes ruined the movies. This could have been the best MCU film to date if they had been a bit serious at times like when asgard was destroyed or when the army was killed off.
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I think what Ragnarok demonstrates is that Thor doesn't need a love interest. It just drags things down.
I wish marvel had taken your advice before green lighting love and thunder.
Sorry but the first Thor movie was awesome. Stopped you video right there... if you can't see a difference between the first 2 films I don't want to know what you have to say
I read Valkryie as gay or bi. Her wife/lover was killed protecting her and that's why she left. She was traumatized and the direction that odin took Asgard made her feel disrespected.
Odin strikes me as a homophobe
@@pastordonkoh7692 and also a terrible parent hahaha
thats exactly what i was thinking
Gay people aren't real
She's canonically bi in comics
The only thing Thor Schlocknarock destroyed was Thor himself. What a garbage movie. I'd call its director a certified hack, but that goes without saying. Can Chris Nolan or Zack Snyder reboot this miserable franchise and make it an epic saga about Norse Thundergod riding into battles with his bretherens to protect all the realms from evil and unkind beings? Oh, and have Thor actually speak like Thor of the comics, with all the "aye" and "thee nay" archaisms? Thanks.
People complain how the comedy undermines the danger. But... Is just me or the internet was full of memes when we were on the verge of WW3?
shinigami hahaha that's a good point.
The world was never in the verge of ww3
you live under a rock or wtf
shinigami "oouh trump is a racist sexist mysoginist that wants to destroy the world!! " is that it? Because that went out of fashion like 9 months ago. And people mock it because it was as serious as this movie.
Marcos Recio oh no, trump is all of that. Is not a fashion is the fucking truth. I'm not from the us, and even in my country we were scared shitless about trump being a fucking baby against higher powers.
Guess I'm one of the few who loved the Thor comics and the first two movies, so I have no love for Ragnarok. If I want camp I'll watch the old Batman show I grew up watching.
Ragnarok was played for the quick and easy laugh, and to appeal to the short attention spans that now exist. So it's filled with silly sight gags, easy one-liners, and circus side show characters, the worst of which is the Grand Master, in which Jeff Goldblum was paid to be Jeff Goldblum.
This story line wastes Thor's closest companions, treating them more like The Three Stooges than The Warriors Three, inept and ineffectual.
I had high hopes for Ragnarok, but they were all dashed on the rocks of a cheap and easy laugh.
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the only way i watched the mcu or cared for marvel is because of thor
“Valkyrie the new love interest” man that didn’t age well LMFAOOOO
I liked Ragnarok, but I also like the other two films. Dark World doesn't get nearly enough credit.
I enjoyed Dark World. The first Thor was ok
Dark World is my favorite Thor film. I personally don't get the hate for it.
i liked thor: the dark world also. the villain was generic, but it was still a fun marvel movie. if it had been released a few years earlier, it probably would've been more successful.
I honestly feel that Ragnarok's comedy actually hit me more genuinely than any joke in the Guardians of the Galaxy films as much as I love them as well. But the thing I do like about those movies is that they know when to stop quiet for a second and let a dramatic moment play out and when to jump back into the comedy when it's done.
Kinda feel like a lot of dramatic tension is either lost or cut short a bit too fast like in SPOILERS SPOILERS. Odin's death scene. And that wasn't really undercut by comedy something just felt a little downplayed with it.
That said if you hate the look of this movie then you hate the look of the classic comics and that's disrespecting the history that made this universe in the first place. Much of it was crazy and colorful and right out of Kirby's art and if anything in the film I appreciated that a lot. I'm glad that we're finally getting to the point where film makers aren't scared to embrace the comic bookiness of comic books.
Christian Taika has explained that he uses comedy with tragedy in the serious films because the relief makes the tragedy more powerful
i think the jokes hit more because we've gotten so used to grim gloomy Thor that seeing him joke around and be silly is is such a surprise that it makes it ten times funnier.
+Christian I laugh a little bit during the guardians films, but ragnarok I just couldn't stop laughing.
Screw history. We learn from the past. We shouldn't celebrate it just because it _is_ past. Read "The Lottery" to understand why it's a bad idea to do things just because they were done before.
It's a shame that Hela is still just a completely worthless plot and character. She's still the best villain of Thor's movies, but considering her competition is a faceless hollow robot and the dark elf so forgettable I refuse to believe anyone can remember one detail of, that's not much of a compliment. Still, she's so bad that even the movie seems aware of it, making her inclusion more of an afterthought in the movie that just sort of stumbles into a resolution by the end with a line so cringe I'd swore I'd leapt back in time to that old Thor cartoon.
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What happened was they made a Thor movie for people who don't like Thor. Remove the grandeur and consequences, keep the exact same plot as the first movie and throw in a bunch of grade school level jokes.
Thor is my favorite Marvel movie. The brother storyline with Loki was something that really spoke to me. I thought Thor 1 Jane was an enjoyable character. Thor II was a little here and there, but Thor Ragnorak truly hit the spot for me.
TALK! ABOUT! TAIKA! WAITITI!!!!! He's the director of Thor: Ragnarok and he's the reason the film is so comic and zany. Liked the character Korg?? Yeah that's because it was played by him, and Taika put a true kiwi twist on the character, (that accent is an exaggerated Maori one, if you were wondering) Here in New Zealand we all love Taika and are so proud of his success with Ragnarok. A true kiwi icon.
I *loved* the original Thor movie. I loved the focus on Asgard and the fact that Jotunheim, not Earth, was the place Loki wanted to destroy. I find it beautiful both thematically and visually. The Dark World, however, suffered from some poor writing. I feel the film focused too much on Loki at the expense of the actual villain, and the amazing Chris Eccleston was criminally underused. Ragnarok is very entertaining, but it saddens me that it had to come at the expense of everything that came before. The original Thor is by far my favorite.
Srsly... this is the second video in a row in which the title says "Ragnarok destroyed Thor" and is actually about how amazing Ragnarok is. Bleh... I actually AM on that line of thinking that Ragnarok DESTROYED Thor's franchise. I like my Thor to be in Shakespearian fashion, thank you very much.
Hemsworth is a gifted comedic actor. This movie plays to his strengths