Mkx was so much better because a lot of character which were mid and bottom tier were still playable to even win tournaments. Now you have just 5 or 6 competitive character.
Yeah, especially when you consider how absolute booty Kotal Kahn is in this game😂 My personal favorite on the roster character wise, but near impossible to be competitive with
Emily T this kotal Kahn is ass I’m way better than him and for every1 saying kotal is bad in this game hes actually a beast people just don’t know how to use him
Just Ghoul not in kotal kahns state atm he will not be used in tournys and if he is I doubt anyone will make top 8. He needs a buff and so does dvorah she needs several buffs
Tier list are bullshit sometimes, people assume because a character is easier to play with and has good damage it's the best. Until somebody comes and fucks them up with a "low tier" character. Then all of a sudden they start saying "this is broken"
Kotal Kahn, Shao Khan, Frost, Kung Lao, Raiden, D'Vorah and Kano need a little help to deal with top tiers toolsets. Kotal Kahn absolutely lacks in many ways, many characters do what he does but Accel where he fails. His up close game is shit. All his ranged moves put him close up but far enough for his two starters to wiff first hit and the rest of his buttons are slow AF making him a fotsie range character only. On top if all of this his tools to counter zoning and most of his Special moves are complete garbage on recovery and unsafe even after setup. His Sunlight is a year of recovery and is full combo punishable midscreen. Sunlight is his only way to deal with string zoners, since it has good heal and used with his 29f disk is strong but you can't get it out safely. His sword Pound is reactable on animation just from sword going up so it can't be used to mix up opponent. He is definitely bottom tier. I'm fine with him lacking close up but his Sunlight and Sword Pound and totem need less recovery then he will have a better chance against top tiers and high tiers.
Somberless LawAbidingCitizen I main Kotal. He does lack in areas, agreed. His sunbeam and totem certainly need a frame buff to make them safe. I Think then he just needs a totem on each tournament load out; Ascension gets damage reduction totem, give Totemic the damage the buff totem. This will make him strong without being OP. At the moment he has the healing blood totem, why? He gets healing from the sunbeam, the totem should be damage increase/enemy reduction.
So I’m new to the MK series and I was just wondering in actual tournaments, are you only allowed to use the tournament variations for each character? I have been seeing top players using non tournament variations in gameplay so I was wondering how that works.
Campbell Kane yes there is two tournament variations for each character, some of them however don’t maximize the characters potential in combos or just gameplay in general. That is why you see people using custom variations more because you can play them to the best of their abilities.
TheeRomanB I think that’s kind of dumb. It seems like it lowers a lot of characters’ potential if you restrict their move set when those moves are in the game for a reason. Regardless, thanks for the clarification! Appreciate it ✌🏼
Campbell Kane np dude, and yea man it’s rather unfortunate. Some characters like subzero actually have good tournament variations at least that’s what I’ve heard. Maybe they change it to where you can use your custom variation in ranked but for now I would say player matches is where you wanna be playing rn
I used Kotal as my first character and put a lot of time into him and thought I was ass at the game. Then I tried Kabal and Sub Zero And immediately felt the difference in character ability and was winning wayyyyyyyyyy more. I’m not gonna say Kotal is bad because I don’t think he is. But he is mediocre compared to other characters. He has great reach with his n4 and f4, but all his quick attacks are high starters which allow opponents duck and punish or to poke you to no end anytime you try to do something, and his mids are incredibly slow even though they have long range. So anytime anyone gets in on you your only option is to poke them and try and grab to push them away or else literally anything you do will get beat out by any other character. It’s frustrating.
His moves have so much recovery frames and they are extremely punishable on block as well. I love using him but he has so many flaws it's not even funny
I think projectiles should clash like in Street Fighter, that would be better for the Game, i saw tounament play yesterday and allready 80% zoning, its not good People dont like watching and then the Game dies
Kotal is trash currently. Negative on everything and slow. Mixed that with no overhead starter. I hope they buff him a bit. Maybe make his f1,2 like -2 or bring back more mkx sword specials.
Buffs he needs Give choice on where to throw the opponent when his command grabs hits S3 needs to hit mid instead of high The second hit of b22 needs to actually hit and not wiff when b2 hits max range Faster startup and faster recovery on somethings not picky And a new move or string
Except those totems aren’t in either tournament variation, and even if they were, damage isn’t Kotals issue, it’s winning neutral and getting out of disadvantage, which you have to do to place a totem in the first place.. one totem, much less three.. and if you finish your combo in totem instead of your normal ender you ultimately sacrifice so much positioning/frame-advantage that, given how bad kotals frame data is to begin with, the chance of you winning neutral for a second time and even beginning to cash in on the damage boost you just received, is EXTREMELY unlikely against any decent opponent. And that’s for ONE totem, lol.
Not to mention that kotals command grab, which leaves you +19 and close enough for a meaty f2, gives him a timed damage boost as is, so winning neutral exchanges in quick succession is extremely valuable to Kotal and anything that hurts his potential to do so, such as squandering precious frame advantage on his lengthy set-up and passive specials, is ultimately detrimental to his chances of success.
A.O. Mendez blood totem heals you, it doesn’t increase your damage, and in that variation you get like half the damage you would in ascension anyway because you can’t convert into a full combo off of anything outside back 22 and crushing blows
Down 1 is pretty bad, but his command grab is good. He gets a free f2, 4 set up as long as he doesn't meter burn the grab. And it works even if the opponent delays his wake up.
The consensus says that his normals and strings are mostly unsafe so his neutral game suffers since he punished for doing anything. He does hit hard but he has to power himself to do so.
You should really look into D'Vorah again, Reo is feasting on people with D'Vorah. Give her another chance, watch some of Reo videos to pick up a few things and add your own style to it
Professor Moogle I think I’m the only person that rematches when I lose. Then again maybe that’s why I’m 50 and 150, in kasual kompetative, because people leave when I win and when I get rocked I’ll play the person for an hr if that’s what it takes to figure it out xP
But also probably why they’ve been playing MK for years and still get bopped in ranked, while this is my first NetherRealm game and I’m already 27/19 top 10,000 with the worst character in the game B)
@BaneClandestine there's only 2 ranked variations. If you think the one with the totem is better you must be high. This is the only viable variation with the uppercut to extend combos
I somehow always end up playing the bottom tier and have great success with them once enough time is invested. Like I'm not doing it on purpose but all my favourites either mechanically or designwise are those people call trash. I took over online as Braniac in I2, Vega and Gen in SF4, people called all of them too hard for too little reward. Then someone with enough dedication rocked their world on EVO with a surprise pick and won, the next day online was full of that character. Don't believe sheeple and their tier lists guys. Believe in yourself.
It's been boring. Too repetitive in combos, no variety in anything outside of customization and no variety in styles. You are forced to play ONE way and that is saddening.
Yea because theres only about 5 characters worth using unless you just wanna have fun win or lose... i already have a love hate relationship with the game because i main Kotal as well and i have to work so hard for my wins compared to scorpion, noob, erron black, sub-zero, and liu kang
@@tonshaad1230 Try other characters. Theres no way you have them all mastered. Maybe you havnt found one you enjoy playing yet. The game is made intentionally slower and I think a lot of people do not get that. You have to think more than react compared to mkx.
![Jacqui Briggs Mortal Kombat 11 Beginner Character Guide and Combo Tutorial! [1st Round KO Variation]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/vVeSAf33XXI/mqdefault.jpg)
Stick with the characters you love, people. They may be weak now but once they get buffed you’ll know it was worth it
Preach
0:45 have no idea why, but that looked like the most alpha shit I’ve seen in this game 😂.
Man straight *WALKED UP* in his face and said FUCK YOU! 😂 😂
@top 10 anime accounts bee was salty AF after that hahaha
Lol stfu bitch
It was a straight up Dio walk meme
@@26kyle26 it really was lol and he was even switching hard as hell
I hate the fact that they made Kotal Khan so weak for MK11, he still one of my favorites but they could have did a lot better
Mkx was so much better because a lot of character which were mid and bottom tier were still playable to even win tournaments. Now you have just 5 or 6 competitive character.
Truth!
True, aka all the geras, sonya, Jacqui and erron black players
The Kotal Kahn player is good.
Yeah, especially when you consider how absolute booty Kotal Kahn is in this game😂
My personal favorite on the roster character wise, but near impossible to be competitive with
@@Papa-vq2cx Dude, they did Kotal so dirty this game. I miss my mans from MKX
Emily T this kotal Kahn is ass I’m way better than him and for every1 saying kotal is bad in this game hes actually a beast people just don’t know how to use him
@@ThatOneGuy97210 post some combo vids then so I can learn
@@ThatOneGuy97210 we look forward to your footage against high level players. Thank you.
I will never forget when Lord Pnut took it to Fox in MKX, what a great set
Especially with the sunlight brutality. It was lit!
You know what this means Lord Pnut for evo champion?
Just Ghoul not in kotal kahns state atm he will not be used in tournys and if he is I doubt anyone will make top 8. He needs a buff and so does dvorah she needs several buffs
@@ethanbell5508 Then see Hayatei vs Furious Pillow 😊
Really sucks how tier lists pretty much destroy the variety in characters being used.
Primordial What tier list?
Agree.
Blaze TheHunter a bunch of youtubers and pro players made tier lists
Tier list are bullshit sometimes, people assume because a character is easier to play with and has good damage it's the best. Until somebody comes and fucks them up with a "low tier" character. Then all of a sudden they start saying "this is broken"
If the game was balanced better then tier lists wouldn't have to determine character usage
as a kotal player, he has damage and range, he also fougth this match up hundreads of times a day
Real men use Kotal. HoneyBee needs to use D'Vorah vs Kotal. No excuses. Both are bottom tier.
Maybe he felt like playing noob saibot haha
Honey bee...
Pnut...
um, wheres cheerios?...
If he didn’t drop so many combos he would’ve taken alot more matches from bee.
Jayson Mejias Take note, people. Practice matters
It’s really hard doing kombos with kotal, timing has to be so persist
The real reason why you should love any character he is the prime example of what loving a character is.. Good job Kotal Kahn main...
I love playing in the Black Dragon Fight Club
Same lol its probably my fav map
Razer ok??
@@l750z_6 Let them have their fun
Same!
Kotal Kahn, Shao Khan, Frost, Kung Lao, Raiden, D'Vorah and Kano need a little help to deal with top tiers toolsets.
Kotal Kahn absolutely lacks in many ways, many characters do what he does but Accel where he fails.
His up close game is shit. All his ranged moves put him close up but far enough for his two starters to wiff first hit and the rest of his buttons are slow AF making him a fotsie range character only. On top if all of this his tools to counter zoning and most of his Special moves are complete garbage on recovery and unsafe even after setup. His Sunlight is a year of recovery and is full combo punishable midscreen. Sunlight is his only way to deal with string zoners, since it has good heal and used with his 29f disk is strong but you can't get it out safely. His sword Pound is reactable on animation just from sword going up so it can't be used to mix up opponent.
He is definitely bottom tier. I'm fine with him lacking close up but his Sunlight and Sword Pound and totem need less recovery then he will have a better chance against top tiers and high tiers.
Somberless LawAbidingCitizen I main Kotal. He does lack in areas, agreed. His sunbeam and totem certainly need a frame buff to make them safe. I Think then he just needs a totem on each tournament load out; Ascension gets damage reduction totem, give Totemic the damage the buff totem. This will make him strong without being OP. At the moment he has the healing blood totem, why? He gets healing from the sunbeam, the totem should be damage increase/enemy reduction.
Good to see someone who know how to play Kotal in his current state, this is basicially how I've been playing him since day one
Same.
Wow stfu
Jesus Christ everyone in this reply section is triggered.
This community is so toxic
@@ethanbell5508 people that actually judge a community (thousands upon thousands of people) on TH-cam comments shouldn't be allowed to have opinions
This is why I’m a fan of you HoneyBee, you don’t just pick Geras if your main sucks. You pick who you like. #Personality.
2:04 Bi Han got "roasted"... again :/
Kotal Khan is my main he’s pretty good once you get used to him.
So I’m new to the MK series and I was just wondering in actual tournaments, are you only allowed to use the tournament variations for each character? I have been seeing top players using non tournament variations in gameplay so I was wondering how that works.
Campbell Kane yes there is two tournament variations for each character, some of them however don’t maximize the characters potential in combos or just gameplay in general. That is why you see people using custom variations more because you can play them to the best of their abilities.
TheeRomanB I think that’s kind of dumb. It seems like it lowers a lot of characters’ potential if you restrict their move set when those moves are in the game for a reason. Regardless, thanks for the clarification! Appreciate it ✌🏼
Campbell Kane np dude, and yea man it’s rather unfortunate. Some characters like subzero actually have good tournament variations at least that’s what I’ve heard. Maybe they change it to where you can use your custom variation in ranked but for now I would say player matches is where you wanna be playing rn
@@leaf8554 this is what I've been saying from the start. Having the moves but not being able to use them is so dumb
I'm also new let's together
Really down 1 and grabs thats all you have
I used Kotal as my first character and put a lot of time into him and thought I was ass at the game. Then I tried Kabal and Sub Zero And immediately felt the difference in character ability and was winning wayyyyyyyyyy more. I’m not gonna say Kotal is bad because I don’t think he is. But he is mediocre compared to other characters. He has great reach with his n4 and f4, but all his quick attacks are high starters which allow opponents duck and punish or to poke you to no end anytime you try to do something, and his mids are incredibly slow even though they have long range. So anytime anyone gets in on you your only option is to poke them and try and grab to push them away or else literally anything you do will get beat out by any other character. It’s frustrating.
I’m gonna pick up kotal now when he’s garbage so when he gets buffed he becomes god tier lol
So don't depend on the character you are using, but your skill with it
Kotal still trash af, i use him
@FujitoraTheGreat same with johnny cage and shao kahn.
His moves have so much recovery frames and they are extremely punishable on block as well. I love using him but he has so many flaws it's not even funny
Soul Of Cinder Yupp. Kotal is still my guy tho. Hopefully he’s among the first to get buffed.
OctaRoid yeah, Johnny needs a way to open people up. He literally has nothing lol
I think projectiles should clash like in Street Fighter, that would be better for the Game, i saw tounament play yesterday and allready 80% zoning, its not good People dont like watching and then the Game dies
Money is on the line and people wanna play like bitches to make sure they win.
John Romero and it's up to NRS to make sure bitchery isn't a viable thing. No one likes bitchery
@@jordangarcia465 bitchery is their favorite
This is the first time i saw someone complain about zoning and i actually agree with them
It's more zoning in this game than in injustice 2
In the right hands Kotal is not to be fucked with
Kotal is trash currently. Negative on everything and slow. Mixed that with no overhead starter. I hope they buff him a bit. Maybe make his f1,2 like -2 or bring back more mkx sword specials.
Buffs he needs
Give choice on where to throw the opponent when his command grabs hits
S3 needs to hit mid instead of high
The second hit of b22 needs to actually hit and not wiff when b2 hits max range
Faster startup and faster recovery on somethings not picky
And a new move or string
@@spacemanju7 His anti-air in mxk was better than then sword in 11. And give him back his f3 tick throw.
@@Almighty_Hendo he still has his s1 and d1 tick throws but yea they showed his f3 tick throw in his gameplay reveal then remove it
Kotal's strings look really minus and look like death on wiff
You can mix it up
FujitoraTheGreat kotal not bad! Stop it
FujitoraTheGreat eh I guess we’ll agree to disagree, I win more then lose with him lol
@@ShadowTetsuo9999 you actually play kotal? This is my 1st time seeing someone play him online
All About: The Sticks exactly people don’t know how good kotal is and the people who say he’s bad must be awful
At least he is playing someone respectable 😋 hehe
best kotal ive seen.
If you use the totems with Kotal Khan you can get nearly 600 damage
Except those totems aren’t in either tournament variation, and even if they were, damage isn’t Kotals issue, it’s winning neutral and getting out of disadvantage, which you have to do to place a totem in the first place.. one totem, much less three.. and if you finish your combo in totem instead of your normal ender you ultimately sacrifice so much positioning/frame-advantage that, given how bad kotals frame data is to begin with, the chance of you winning neutral for a second time and even beginning to cash in on the damage boost you just received, is EXTREMELY unlikely against any decent opponent.
And that’s for ONE totem, lol.
Not to mention that kotals command grab, which leaves you +19 and close enough for a meaty f2, gives him a timed damage boost as is, so winning neutral exchanges in quick succession is extremely valuable to Kotal and anything that hurts his potential to do so, such as squandering precious frame advantage on his lengthy set-up and passive specials, is ultimately detrimental to his chances of success.
Yeah, but hardly any setups for it.....safe setups.
@@kennylee1155 blood totem is in Totemic variation.
A.O. Mendez blood totem heals you, it doesn’t increase your damage, and in that variation you get like half the damage you would in ascension anyway because you can’t convert into a full combo off of anything outside back 22 and crushing blows
This gameplay is so sick man, I must suck lmao
Poor Kotal
I wish i had the money to buy this game. I want it soooo fucking bad. All i do all day is watch vids of people playing it :(
Imagine if kotals damage was decent instead of the 270 range
For combos etc
Kotal needs a crazy amount of buffs he’s minus on so much shit ... down 1 is horrible.. command grabs are atrocious
Down 1 is pretty bad, but his command grab is good. He gets a free f2, 4 set up as long as he doesn't meter burn the grab. And it works even if the opponent delays his wake up.
haha that kotal khan brutality
When is the twitch stream startinnnnng
Sup honeybee, who will you play at summit noob or D'vorah
Obviously noob saibot
@@onomatopoeia7219 Hopefully they release D'vorah DLC after summit. I can't wait to play her in this game
Lachlan Hawkins what
I'm going to probably start using a character no one is using too. I use right now only jade and jacqui sometimes kung Lao
That mask look sick
8:31 lol
Could HoneyBee spam grabs some more please -_-
Honey what is ur tier rating for nnob
Id say mid imo
How do you obtain those variations
Press square or x for xbox to access the preset variations. The ones with a cup image are tournament legal.
What he said, but to specify, this is done in the Kustomize > Abilities menu for each character
Nice games.
WHY NOBODY DARES TO FIGHT NINJA KILLA OH YEAH BECAUSE HE LL KILL U ALL
Ok, edgelord
I miss the Flash videos 😭
Ok. I’ll ask. Kotal is my main. I only play him. What’s the problem? I didn’t think he was that bad
The consensus says that his normals and strings are mostly unsafe so his neutral game suffers since he punished for doing anything. He does hit hard but he has to power himself to do so.
I only Main Kotal as well
Blakebot J the combos aren’t bad if you get the damage totem, the only good one. But yeah I get what you mean
You should really look into D'Vorah again, Reo is feasting on people with D'Vorah. Give her another chance, watch some of Reo videos to pick up a few things and add your own style to it
Don't believe in character suck BS.. it's the player that needs to get better with that specific character... :)
90% is using Noob S, Scorpion, Sub Zero or Liu Kang..
Hmm...so I'm in the 10% using Kotal, eh? Nice!
Rare sighting of a rematch in player matches. Is it just me or is it the PS4 community that either quit after 1 loss or quit after 1 win?
Professor Moogle I think I’m the only person that rematches when I lose. Then again maybe that’s why I’m 50 and 150, in kasual kompetative, because people leave when I win and when I get rocked I’ll play the person for an hr if that’s what it takes to figure it out xP
They fatal on their first match on ranked smh out of three and yeah they quit to.
But also probably why they’ve been playing MK for years and still get bopped in ranked, while this is my first NetherRealm game and I’m already 27/19 top 10,000 with the worst character in the game B)
This is also the same on xbox people leave after 1 game it's mad annoying!
Khan is so much damaged. Like every move its heavy damage.
Yea but his start ups are slow and very predictable. He also can get zoned pretty fast. I play Kotal
@@reginald_iroh so how do u make him less predictable?
Make sure strings up with his Parry. Instead of using his strings as a whole use one part of a string and mix it up
Mix up his strings with his parry*
Yeah, I'll use F2, parry then go for grab or F2, 4 and parry. Kotal is fun to use but I prefer Totemic to Ascension
Kotal khan is so weak (he need a buff) Mkx Kotal was much stronger. Whenever he drinks blood, he would have to get energy^^
I'm sorry. This is just the worst variation of Kotal. People put too much emphasis on the command throw.
Which one do you prefer? I'm open to suggestions. Admittedly, dunking people on their heads with the meter burn is satisfying.
No its the combo extender thats why people use it
Adam-543 it doesn’t extend combos, it’s used to end them
Trainer Joel not the grab just forgot the name of the move, the ability used at 14:57
@BaneClandestine there's only 2 ranked variations. If you think the one with the totem is better you must be high. This is the only viable variation with the uppercut to extend combos
Ayeee
I somehow always end up playing the bottom tier and have great success with them once enough time is invested. Like I'm not doing it on purpose but all my favourites either mechanically or designwise are those people call trash. I took over online as Braniac in I2, Vega and Gen in SF4, people called all of them too hard for too little reward. Then someone with enough dedication rocked their world on EVO with a surprise pick and won, the next day online was full of that character. Don't believe sheeple and their tier lists guys. Believe in yourself.
Brainiac was not trash lmao
@@loupe3652 he wasn't that good bruh.. I rarely seen him online
Jaden Vega exactly
@@jahaininagaki5243 just becuz u dont see him doesnt make him bad
@@loupe3652 yes it does. Shut up!
Kotal is rare? You're the first person I've seen playing as Noob
No FB punishing, bad match
Mkx Kotal better
Second?
First?
This game is getting boring already
Why are you here?
how ?
It's been boring. Too repetitive in combos, no variety in anything outside of customization and no variety in styles. You are forced to play ONE way and that is saddening.
Yea because theres only about 5 characters worth using unless you just wanna have fun win or lose... i already have a love hate relationship with the game because i main Kotal as well and i have to work so hard for my wins compared to scorpion, noob, erron black, sub-zero, and liu kang
@@tonshaad1230 Try other characters. Theres no way you have them all mastered. Maybe you havnt found one you enjoy playing yet. The game is made intentionally slower and I think a lot of people do not get that. You have to think more than react compared to mkx.
And the common sight of Noob saibot i play Kotal