So this was a lore drop that blew my mind, but now we know why he always had to go attend a "meeting in 5 minutes." It's because he cannot go more than 2 hours without treatment/life support.
I was joking about the fact the legendary commander was just Anderson in fucking cosplay before but just reaching chapter 25 myself yesterday was like fuck that might actually be true if he can't even leave life support for more than 2 hours. This also feel more confirmed at the fact that the current commander (us) might be some kind of clone based off Anderson due to the whole blood thing. Pretty sure like the only 2 people with that blood type in the world right now.
@@senelfeinreinhart1509 if he did it better been with Lilith and we find the commander is half Nikke coz reasons. xD I don't remember but the fact the commander doesn't remember shit is something else too.
@@RexZShadow Think about it, the Ark need the legendary commander, but since he is a human so I don't think Anderson is the LC, so i would guess he is either a clone or his descendant who knows about the Goddess squad or someone who is close to him when he is still alive.
@@RexZShadow I reckon he was made using Andersen and Lilith DNA as way to stop Lilith (aka the queen). Thats why all raptures are so interested in him, because they see the queen inside of him, and why his blood can create vapaus, because raptures are made using the queens design.
Decades of Nikkes Evolution is really Showing here. They could've made a Mass Nikkes like Cinderella and Liliweiss but decided not to. its reasonable when the enemy could literally corrupt them and go against their own creator like that,its horrifying.
I don't think that's what Burningum meant.For some reason, they want to supress information on the existence of the goddess squad and all they did, and quite probably they can't build Nikkes like Lilyweiss or even the Goddess Squad, which where made when the resources and manpower available were vastly superior. Something darker is lurking down there in the guts of the Ark and its probably related with that suppression of information. Don't get me wrong, the official central government stance is probably to not cause disturbance to the public but the entire way the Ark manages Commanders (little actual training, little resources) points at them being, from the point of view of the Ark, pointless unless is to keep appeareances with the population, I refuse to believe the entire central government and people of interest are so incompetent as shown by such decisions. Ennik deal with the Raptures plus the entire Rapture behaviour towards the Ark is weird, it seems to me for them the Ark is a source of something and/or like a zoo. I mean for the actual Raptures that can think, and whatever Ennik has been doing in collaboration with them other than the sending corrupted nikke's in the raptures behalf is related probably. The story can go in a multiple of ways from there depending on the true origin of the Raptures.
But wait a minute. The Legendary SKK did not look injured prior to his "call" to the Ark...maybe he was already on life support...or the Ark betrayed him and Lilith, managed to survive and come back many years later? Considering his age, which could be around 130-140. This could open the possibility of him trying to maintain as much control of Ark as he can to avoid Ark destroying itself or something similar.
The entire situation with the OBVIOUS BAIT of 3 million old as fuck raptures, the sudden call of the Commander to the high command and the Annechiro + modern at the time Raptures assault on the Ark defensive lines points that something very bad, very fishy, very , very, very suspicious was going in the shadows. I mean, take this: Goddess squad has to be literally abandoned in the surface, just because, then the Raptures don't fucking demolish the Ark which after being able to defeat humanity itself, they TOTALLY can do at any point. Add Ennik and her weird pact with the Raptures of sending out corrupted from the Ark nikkes at specific places for the Raptures to collect and it's inevitable to get to the conclusion that all what happened between humanity deciding finally to hide in the Ark and Goddess Squad being abandoned in the surface is a big farce done by some secret agreement between the raptures and humanity high command or...Ennik, in which humanity was forced to abandon their strongest weapons, aka Goddess Squad as a condition among other conditions. In another comment I pointed also that the Ark is fishy , I expand it a bit: They are kinda behement in making humanity stupid and dependent on the Ark, kinda like a zoo , and Nikkes are treated as cannon fodder as are the commanders(even more) which seem a case of keeping appeareances to sell the lie. In fact talking about high officials, Tetra president seems the odd card that is literally running along both sides (Ark high command and lets call it the resistance) but wants humanity to thrive, Syuen seems oblivious to all this shit, perhaps too young for being in the know, Ingrid definetively is in the resistance and knows shit and Andersen has to be the legendary commander or is related to him for sure, and it's part of the resistance. The blood thingie that Andersen, the Legendary commander , and the commander that is us has, I don't know exactly how to fit it in this, other than an hybrid of alien and human that triggers some failsafe on the nanomachines of the Raptures. I just hope it isnt' some case of a sciencist turning mad and using new tech to become the queen borg of the world and subjugate humanity because I prefer what I think it is or something even more convoluted and messy lol.
And the way Anderson say Dorothy name his voice like his disappointed or concerns about her and close his eyes thinking what happened to her after the operation ark guardian
Yeah after becoming Deputy Chief maybe Anderson immediately order to wiped out every single information about the goddess squad to insure their safety but Dorothy revealed herself to the higher-ups of the central government event the big 3
"第一次ラプチャー侵攻のとき、アンダーソンとともにラプチャーと対峙したプロトタイプのニケの一人" This was said in the Japanese livestream 2 days after the launchment of the game during SW's showcase, traduced to English would be: "One of the prototype Nikes who faced Rapture along with Anderson during the first Rapture invasion." So yes, it's been confirmed since long time ago that Anderson is the legendary commander. In this livestream, around 54:30. th-cam.com/users/liveXvFTnh46sRE?si=-Wc5iIvHeTcN_UfA
I knew it since when he gave us blood transfusion since no one can blood tranfuse the commander due to our blood didnt appear on the medical database of the ark which is confirm by this video that andersen is indeed the legendary commander . As for our mc there maybe two possibility first is we are his clone and second we are maybe his son not directly due to his dna are used and unknown female to create a test tube baby
I'm being patient to see how this works out in the story, I don't think Anderson is the LC but is somehow related to him and the MC is also, I could be wrong though. The real question is how this ends up being related to the Raptures and Nikkes with the whole Vapaus thing. My brain tends towards worst outcomes so I think the central government did LC dirty at some point since we now know they tried to off RH and already knew they abandoned Goddess Squad. I have a hard time believing they just let LC 'retire in the Ark' like people in the Ark currently believe but Over zone wasn't clear on what happened to him.
in early chapter 25 we know live with a life support, the legendary commander and andersen have a same face and jp voice. His trademark '5 minutes' because he need his life support
@@RedTyler014 if this right, why only Ether know and why she just silent? She or the whole Missilis actually can do a lot experiment to our commander cause he has rare blood
Unless Shift up told me I still don't believe that Anderson is the Legendary commander. Because : -The Legendary commander had daughter that is Cinderella while Anderson state that he's not married nor have any family or Relatives. -The reason why he got life support is probably from the battle at surface. He was field commander after all. -- my theory is Both MC and Anderson are clone from the Legendary Commander
@@fflame2719 but what if it wasn't? What if Cinderella trully his daughter? Also what if Liliweis is his wife? What if in order to win the war and to increase war effort he allow them to become a NIKKE?
@crusaderknight4469 the legendary commander joked a lot, him calling Cinderella his daughter was a joke. If she was his actual daughter he would have been devastated that she was corrupted yet he couldn't have given less of a shit.
@@NPixel7558 BUT HEYY My Comment just a theory A NIKKE theory... but seriously i still stand that Anderson Is not the Legendary commander. Why... - Its been like 100 Years+ (if Anderson was the Legendary commander he's gonna look like a skinny oldman) - the thing that Anderson use so called life support Its probably a Hemodialisis machine to treat his kidney since Its location near the kidney. Until Shift Up tell the full story or update the info i Will stand by my statement
vapaus doesn't mean his blood, vapaus is created from his blood. So andersen doesn't know how to make vapaus, there is someone out there who knows how to make one. besides i haven't got that far in the main story
It has to be Andersen, his voice, it's too similar, no doubt it's Andersen. He has the whole life support tube thing, which means, he's probably around 100+ years old at this point of generation in the ark. When he asked about the archives of Goddess, i knew, that Andersen is the Legendary commander, and also when one of them mentioned Dorothy, his expression looked off and looked a bit sad or worried, so i had my suspicions right, Andersen is no doubt the Legendary commander of Goddess.
This really explains the reason he's in the Pilgrim Tower,and i 100% fricking knew it was him since the first Chapter of Red Ash!
And chapter 25 reveals andersen cant live without life supporr
@@RedTyler014 yep,he has lived more than 100 Years,its only normal that he's been on a life support all this time
i mean, we REALLY put his features together when compared
Yup dead giveaway in the red ash storyline 😂
and he shares the same blood with MC
So this was a lore drop that blew my mind, but now we know why he always had to go attend a "meeting in 5 minutes." It's because he cannot go more than 2 hours without treatment/life support.
Now we know he has a red flag in the future 😞
@@RedTyler014 Anniversary Unit, Year 2: First Male Nikke? Anderson reborn, looking like Raiden or Jetstream Sam? "Zeus?" or maybe "Oz?"
@@CaptainRegular it won't be called a "Nikke" but "Ares" instead if Andersen becomes one.
@@CaptainRegular lorewise thi cant happen
@@Aizencroiz No, lorewise regular men couldn't become nikkes. Anderson is built different.
I was joking about the fact the legendary commander was just Anderson in fucking cosplay before but just reaching chapter 25 myself yesterday was like fuck that might actually be true if he can't even leave life support for more than 2 hours. This also feel more confirmed at the fact that the current commander (us) might be some kind of clone based off Anderson due to the whole blood thing. Pretty sure like the only 2 people with that blood type in the world right now.
Maybe andersen get the cyronic sleeper or whatever the name is and the ark make clone of him, this is why ether call the Shikikan no. 7
If not wrong didn't Andersen say he have son ?
@@senelfeinreinhart1509 if he did it better been with Lilith and we find the commander is half Nikke coz reasons. xD
I don't remember but the fact the commander doesn't remember shit is something else too.
@@RexZShadow Think about it, the Ark need the legendary commander, but since he is a human so I don't think Anderson is the LC, so i would guess he is either a clone or his descendant who knows about the Goddess squad or someone who is close to him when he is still alive.
@@RexZShadow I reckon he was made using Andersen and Lilith DNA as way to stop Lilith (aka the queen). Thats why all raptures are so interested in him, because they see the queen inside of him, and why his blood can create vapaus, because raptures are made using the queens design.
0:39 so the ark can make nikke as powerful as the pilgrim but refuse to out of fear of creating something beyond their control
Probably the incident with Cinderella makes them fear the consequences of creating another powerful Nikkes like the Goddess Squad.
all strong nikke get corrupted and became heretics
@@RedTyler014 Yeah, and it's all Enikk's vault.
Decades of Nikkes Evolution is really Showing here. They could've made a Mass Nikkes like Cinderella and Liliweiss but decided not to. its reasonable when the enemy could literally corrupt them and go against their own creator like that,its horrifying.
I don't think that's what Burningum meant.For some reason, they want to supress information on the existence of the goddess squad and all they did, and quite probably they can't build Nikkes like Lilyweiss or even the Goddess Squad, which where made when the resources and manpower available were vastly superior. Something darker is lurking down there in the guts of the Ark and its probably related with that suppression of information. Don't get me wrong, the official central government stance is probably to not cause disturbance to the public but the entire way the Ark manages Commanders (little actual training, little resources) points at them being, from the point of view of the Ark, pointless unless is to keep appeareances with the population, I refuse to believe the entire central government and people of interest are so incompetent as shown by such decisions. Ennik deal with the Raptures plus the entire Rapture behaviour towards the Ark is weird, it seems to me for them the Ark is a source of something and/or like a zoo. I mean for the actual Raptures that can think, and whatever Ennik has been doing in collaboration with them other than the sending corrupted nikke's in the raptures behalf is related probably. The story can go in a multiple of ways from there depending on the true origin of the Raptures.
Now we need to send Dorothy to meet with Anderson to see what might happen
in her villain arc maybe
@RedTyler014 let's hope it happens.
I figured it out when his blood type matched ours. Thanks to rapunzel we know their commander had the same rare blood type as us.
But wait a minute.
The Legendary SKK did not look injured prior to his "call" to the Ark...maybe he was already on life support...or the Ark betrayed him and Lilith, managed to survive and come back many years later? Considering his age, which could be around 130-140.
This could open the possibility of him trying to maintain as much control of Ark as he can to avoid Ark destroying itself or something similar.
The entire situation with the OBVIOUS BAIT of 3 million old as fuck raptures, the sudden call of the Commander to the high command and the Annechiro + modern at the time Raptures assault on the Ark defensive lines points that something very bad, very fishy, very , very, very suspicious was going in the shadows. I mean, take this: Goddess squad has to be literally abandoned in the surface, just because, then the Raptures don't fucking demolish the Ark which after being able to defeat humanity itself, they TOTALLY can do at any point. Add Ennik and her weird pact with the Raptures of sending out corrupted from the Ark nikkes at specific places for the Raptures to collect and it's inevitable to get to the conclusion that all what happened between humanity deciding finally to hide in the Ark and Goddess Squad being abandoned in the surface is a big farce done by some secret agreement between the raptures and humanity high command or...Ennik, in which humanity was forced to abandon their strongest weapons, aka Goddess Squad as a condition among other conditions. In another comment I pointed also that the Ark is fishy , I expand it a bit: They are kinda behement in making humanity stupid and dependent on the Ark, kinda like a zoo , and Nikkes are treated as cannon fodder as are the commanders(even more) which seem a case of keeping appeareances to sell the lie. In fact talking about high officials, Tetra president seems the odd card that is literally running along both sides (Ark high command and lets call it the resistance) but wants humanity to thrive, Syuen seems oblivious to all this shit, perhaps too young for being in the know, Ingrid definetively is in the resistance and knows shit and Andersen has to be the legendary commander or is related to him for sure, and it's part of the resistance.
The blood thingie that Andersen, the Legendary commander , and the commander that is us has, I don't know exactly how to fit it in this, other than an hybrid of alien and human that triggers some failsafe on the nanomachines of the Raptures.
I just hope it isnt' some case of a sciencist turning mad and using new tech to become the queen borg of the world and subjugate humanity because I prefer what I think it is or something even more convoluted and messy lol.
Welp that's 100% confirmed
Still very handsome after all these years
Liliweiss had good taste
And the way Anderson say Dorothy name his voice like his disappointed or concerns about her and close his eyes thinking what happened to her after the operation ark guardian
this is why he focus on pilgrim and try to send intel into the surface
Yeah after becoming Deputy Chief maybe Anderson immediately order to wiped out every single information about the goddess squad to insure their safety but Dorothy revealed herself to the higher-ups of the central government event the big 3
He is 100+ years old right now and still looking good
Still have The Rizz
Liliweiss had good taste
You’re damn right.
Still looking jacked for 100
@@DudeOnInternettmr Anderson gigachad
"第一次ラプチャー侵攻のとき、アンダーソンとともにラプチャーと対峙したプロトタイプのニケの一人"
This was said in the Japanese livestream 2 days after the launchment of the game during SW's showcase, traduced to English would be:
"One of the prototype Nikes who faced Rapture along with Anderson during the first Rapture invasion."
So yes, it's been confirmed since long time ago that Anderson is the legendary commander.
In this livestream, around 54:30.
th-cam.com/users/liveXvFTnh46sRE?si=-Wc5iIvHeTcN_UfA
i watching the live stream and i only know 'oshiri' 😂
Since we share the same blood and didn't have any memories. He is probably doing something to the MC
a clone with andersen DNA maybe
I would like to think he's twin brother of the goddess commander, only being wake up few years before us. And we are the clone of the commander.
I knew it since when he gave us blood transfusion since no one can blood tranfuse the commander due to our blood didnt appear on the medical database of the ark which is confirm by this video that andersen is indeed the legendary commander .
As for our mc there maybe two possibility first is we are his clone and second we are maybe his son not directly due to his dna are used and unknown female to create a test tube baby
Amazing explanation but what happened to the spacing lmao
@@whyamistillhere3258 rapid fire type and double spacing
What if the unknown female is Lilith? Imagine, MC is the son of the LC and Lilith
@@russellliban76 well maybe could since nikke can get pregnant if they install a artificial womb or a test tube baby
Mr. Andersen And Big Boss would have s very long conversation about their past! Two old Legends! 👊😳
I'm being patient to see how this works out in the story, I don't think Anderson is the LC but is somehow related to him and the MC is also, I could be wrong though. The real question is how this ends up being related to the Raptures and Nikkes with the whole Vapaus thing. My brain tends towards worst outcomes so I think the central government did LC dirty at some point since we now know they tried to off RH and already knew they abandoned Goddess Squad. I have a hard time believing they just let LC 'retire in the Ark' like people in the Ark currently believe but Over zone wasn't clear on what happened to him.
Interesting idk how much i believe it my self but it would be wild twist
the first mc still alive, and we the second mc still playing
so we rizz with young(?) snow white using anderson??!😮 hell yeah👍
Learn from the best
@@RedTyler014 😂😂 no matter what age you are😂
I think this is also the scene where andersen explain why philgrims are strong
yes
Yep this is something
My feeling now...
*I grab his collar neck.*
Me : WHERE THE FUCK IS LILIWEIS!?!?
where your woman ?😅
So he is the goddess commander
the dev tease it,
Wait, how does that make any sense when it's been 50 years since the Overzone event?
he need a life support
Wait? So Legendary Shikikan is Andersen all along? Please explain
in early chapter 25 we know live with a life support, the legendary commander and andersen have a same face and jp voice. His trademark '5 minutes' because he need his life support
He's like Madara Uchiha from Naruto isn't he?
but not villain role
Exactly my thoughts
Now this is explain why Andersen has Legendary Commander's blood
But i'm still Curious about our commander, is he Andersen clone? ( Just my Theory)
maybe yes, maybe this is the reason ether call the shikikan no7
@@RedTyler014 if this right, why only Ether know and why she just silent?
She or the whole Missilis actually can do a lot experiment to our commander cause he has rare blood
I don't think Anderson is the legendary commander..I think hes decended/related to him just like the commander is.
I thought it was he's father or something but now he's half elf xD?
🤣male nikke maybe
Unless Shift up told me I still don't believe that Anderson is the Legendary commander. Because :
-The Legendary commander had daughter that is Cinderella while Anderson state that he's not married nor have any family or Relatives.
-The reason why he got life support is probably from the battle at surface. He was field commander after all.
-- my theory is Both MC and Anderson are clone from the Legendary Commander
i dont agree with the first point, cinderella not his daughter
He was joking about cinderella being his daughter, it was so obvious
@@fflame2719 but what if it wasn't? What if Cinderella trully his daughter? Also what if Liliweis is his wife? What if in order to win the war and to increase war effort he allow them to become a NIKKE?
@crusaderknight4469 the legendary commander joked a lot, him calling Cinderella his daughter was a joke. If she was his actual daughter he would have been devastated that she was corrupted yet he couldn't have given less of a shit.
@@NPixel7558 BUT HEYY My Comment just a theory A NIKKE theory...
but seriously i still stand that Anderson Is not the Legendary commander. Why...
- Its been like 100 Years+ (if Anderson was the Legendary commander he's gonna look like a skinny oldman)
- the thing that Anderson use so called life support Its probably a Hemodialisis machine to treat his kidney since Its location near the kidney.
Until Shift Up tell the full story or update the info i Will stand by my statement
Wait so this means Anderson could've gave the vapaus to Marian from the beginning but he decided to play dumb this entire time? Im chapter 19
his type blood same with the shikikan
vapaus doesn't mean his blood, vapaus is created from his blood. So andersen doesn't know how to make vapaus, there is someone out there who knows how to make one. besides i haven't got that far in the main story
Satisfying when burningham gets scared of andersen
It has to be Andersen, his voice, it's too similar, no doubt it's Andersen. He has the whole life support tube thing, which means, he's probably around 100+ years old at this point of generation in the ark. When he asked about the archives of Goddess, i knew, that Andersen is the Legendary commander, and also when one of them mentioned Dorothy, his expression looked off and looked a bit sad or worried, so i had my suspicions right, Andersen is no doubt the Legendary commander of Goddess.
So hes connected by red ash during his young self?
i knew it.
So Anderson is the legendary commander or is this A theory??
Still theory,