You're a great teacher!! 3 weeks ago I bought an Impact M3 sniper .25 and have shot over 1200 pellets, trying to tune the gun to the FX 34 grain pellets. I've watched the FX masterclass video's over and over again, but it didn't get me where I wanted to be. I started watching your video (over and over again) a few days ago, started tuning my gun again (finally had the balls to change the second reg) and somehow it all clicked. Now I know what 'tuning your gun on top, or just over the top of the rainbow' actually means. Dude, you are awesome!! Today, on the range, I found my sweetspot and the gun is shooting like a dream. I shot my first 10 mm (5 shot) group at 50 meter (55yards) today, and get really good ES and SD numbers (11 and 2.9 over 30 shots). The thing that put the so called 'cherry on the cake' was me changing the moderator from the DonnyFL Sumo to the stock moderator. (way less flyers) 3 weeks of stress, failure, getting myself together and trying again, came to a close and it was beautiful. Greetings from The Netherlands and many THANKS!!!!
I purchased my M3 a while back and was quite perplexed about tuning it. Despite scrolling through nearly a hundred videos, I still couldn't grasp it. Then, thankfully, I stumbled upon your video, which completely changed my understanding of tuning. Your teaching method is incredibly simple and effective. Many thanks and hats off to you, Sir!❤❤❤
Great vid, watched so many other video's and all they talked is what they like to do and never explained just how it actually works just the facts on how to.....Great Job.
This is probably the best video I have ever seen on how to obtain harmony between reg 2 , hammer wheel, micro hammer adjust and valve adjust for a desired speed. Once this is achieved the speed at which the gun has achieved harmony may or may not be the speed at which delivers the best accuracy . Ex .22 slug nest accuracy between 930-950 fps. This video is outstanding !!
This is the BEST tutorial and philosophy of tuning I have seen! Thank you, I can clearly understand how to tune from scratch for any situation. Every other video I've seen either gives set values , is chasing their tail around or is describing the fine tune assuming you understand how to get everything else adjusted. Even the FX channel doesn't break it down this well. I won't even go into the chaos of trying to look through forums. You just saved me multiple tins of pellets I would have wasted trying to figure this out!
Just bought my m3 in .25 cal, compact model. Your video is outstanding and I look forward to following your methodology once I receive my rig in a few days. Thank you Moose.
Clear and precise, how refreshing to make sense of such a complex and complicated rifle. I loved the part about maxing out every thing so you know when the hammer will not actually engage. Great video. Thank you.
I'm so thankful I found this video! You explain it well and make it so simple to understand. I owned two FX Impact Mk2, watching FX masterclass video again and again for years but didn't get me anywhere fast, wasting so much time and lead. In fact, it makes me hesitant to try to tune it. Not anymore. Subbed!!
I've had my fx m3 for about a year now. Watched Ernest tune his impacts and whiskey 68 and just dozens of others. Your video just gave me that ha-haa moment. And I was a able to tune my gun with confidence. Maybe its because I grew up in Michigan but now live in Arizona that your explanation hit home. Thank you. I want to show my appreciation by how to improve accuracy by clocking your barrel that is rarely talked about, a real game changer if you know how. I won't go into detail, but your fx viewers need to know. I'll explain how if you don't know. Send me a reply
Finding that perfect combination is key. I've over pressurized my Maverick to the point where the projectile speed decreased as I increased the hammer setting. And someone else's tune should be used as a guide, each gun is different. Your explanation gives EVERYONE a guide to achieve the desired results. More speed usually means more air, more air means less shots per fill. The goal is to find that balance between ACCUARCY and SHOTS PER FILL. As you mentioned, wasted air actual diminishes accuracy by pushing the pellet outside the barrel without guidance from the barrel twist. Keep it up, there are always those that think they know better, but there are more of US that appreciate your efforts to achieve maximum accuracy without over stressing the system
Thank you for the tuning video... Eventhough my m3 is 177 but as you said, it is all the same principle for tuning.. Now you get a new subscriber from indonesia... Thank you again and God bless you and family...
The best explaniation I have ever seen. Thanks so very much!!! I have an FX impact mark ll and have never tuned it since I purchased from Utah Air Guns. 25 cal slug liner shooting pellets and slugs on the orighinal tune. Again perfect explanation. --Jackson
Finally. An excellent video that explains in detail about tuning the M3. I just picked mine up from HPP the other day and I was extremely overwhelmed trying to understand all of the adjustment points, what does what, etc. So, as a new dude, thank you.
Rewatched today after setting my reg1 to 175 and my reg2 to 135. Trying to achieve 925-950 fps with a NSA .25 43.5 grain slug. Improved from yesterday's 820 to today's 860 but still not there. Now I need to go back thru your recommended steps. Start Macro 16 , micro to sear engage plus two clicks, Valve all the way out. Interesting observation. Once the above is set, work back to front on the gun. Macro - Micro - Valve. Can't wait to work this and see my results. If I can't achieve my fps, I won't be disappointed as I know the gun will be set up as well as possible. P.S. Born and raised in Michigan .... Thanks again!
Thanks for the advice. I am going to see where this leads for velocity and accuracy. If I can't get close, I will up the regs and start again. Thanks again!
Great vid thanks this is going to help a lot. Dam it was hard to watch that M3 balance with one leg off the table. I dropped my M3 the same way only days after finally getting one punched the barrel out the back of the power block.
Sir I have my power wheel set at sdifferent settings for 3diff pellets but its shooting rear well, and your video is the best I've seen thanks for your work helped alot, now for some fine tuning, thanks again
Thank you. I was messing around with my .25 M3 today. Could not get 43.2 grain NSA slugs above 820. Now I know why. I was doing it all wrong. I will be rewatching to start over with my M3 once I refill it. Awesome teaching video. 👍🏻
Thank you, probably the most useful piece of information that actually makes sense on tuning the M3. Currently I am wasting air but did not understand why! Will definitely give this a try.
Fantastic explanation of the concepts of PCP system. Great job. Pls request you to publish the approximate speed for good accuracy of FX Impact/Crown with different caliber and grain pellets. I am asking for too much, but you are the best guy to do this ..
Awesome tutorial! It gave me the confidence to upgrade from my .22 Dreamline ( 1st PCP) to a .30 Cal Impact. I spent hours tinkering with my Dreamline and learned allot but your tutorial helped make all click. 😀
Yup I agree on the way you tune your rifle that's how I do it I go for a fps like 885 fps but I take it to 915 to 920 then back off till I hit 880 to 885 just like you said brotha thanks for sharing bsafe buddy 👍
Very much appreciated that explanation. As an FX user I found it very easy to follow along in detail. When I get around to making a video on my M3 and pest control setup, I'll be sure to suggest your video and link for detailed information on tuning 💪
I must say that this is the best explanation of tuning the FX Impact I’ve seen. Love the way you get in deep but not too deep of explaining the tuning process. I just found your channel the other day and boy am I glad I found you. Keep ‘‘em coming. You doing a great jobb and don’t let anyone else say otherwise. 👍👍👍
Just Purchased an FX Impact MK3 Sniper FAC in .22 cal and found your video on the Tuning for 18.1gr Pellets very informative. I was just wondering what your first regulator is set to. I currently have mine set at 150 bar. Regards David
Great video Moose. When you got to your hypothetical 110 bar and 9PW for 915fps, could you creep your reg up to say 113 so that you could re-max your PW to 16, just above your desired velocity say 930… then creep the valve back just a little bit or click the wheel one click to 15 until it gets back to 915? I’m no bench rester by any stretch and barely have time to test, but I like having ALL the adjustability I can so that I can shoot like 3-4 different projectiles. I also I shoot in 40% humidity and 100% humidity in the same day or even hour! For example I shoot: - 14.3gr on PW1 at close range for small creatures @ 950-970 (I know too fast) - 18-19gr on PW8 at I think @ 910 - 25gr pellets PW16 @ 915 - 22-25gr slugs on PW16 between 900-1000fps for longer shots. I have such huge swings in temp, humidity and elevation where I shoot that I find my speeds can vary shockingly and use that adjustability to get back to harmony. This is what I’ve been doing. All that basically only touching the round knob. I’m sure/know I’m not optimized for anything, but guess my question is… I don’t want a worthless #10-16 on my wheel. I really love the versatility that the Impact platform can afford. Am I missing something? It seems to work. I AM ASKING, not just trying to tell you what I do. I’m really new to PCP stuff but have a good grasp on firearm stuff in general.
Great video, very informative, and your passive-aggressive way towards Karens and trolls make it a lot more enjoyable haha, long time follower here. Hi from Costa Rica! keep those videos coming.
Very good video, congratulations. I have a question. It is true that when setting to maximum, you should clearly hear how the plenum fills with air or that depends on each rifle. And another question is what is the range of a good standard deviation? greetings and thanks
Im looking to getting into the airgun world and watching aas much as i can as to learn about these guns. I have watched a few different tuning videos and i understood exactly how you explained each step very well. Thank you so much for such a well made tutorial on tuning. Cant wait til i can put my order in for my FX.
Bubba I like the way you told the keyboard experts and Tubey to pound salt right outta the gate,. Thumbs Up all the way.. I'm not an expert nor do I claim to be,. If I was I wouldn't need to be on your channel. (almost was gonna make a Funny out that)but I'll save it. You may remember I just bought a Panthera and is my 1st. FX and Tuner. Anyway mine is still on a truck and I'm just grazing while it's moving. I doing the how much mud is sticking to the wall deal. Think I got a good Idea how to proceed and where to start. I just need a pile ammo and still day. Cheers.
Everyone is right Moose best video for tuning the M3. I've been fiddling with mine for weeks. .22 cal with the 800mm tension barrel. Tried javelin, NSA, zan, H&N. from 28 grain to 33 grain. Can get any good groups. I put the stock 700 mm barrel on. Seems a little better. My question is, what speed should I be looking for. Some say 930, some say 1,000 and in between. The best I've got so far was the NSA 28.5 gn at 950. 3/4" group at 50 yards. Not impressive. I'm setting this up for PRS for the northeast air gun classic. I was hoping to shoot 32 grain or so thinking it might help more in the wind but I'm pretty new at this. Any input you want to throw at me would be awesome. Thanks.
Is that better then the 20-30fps over your speed then use the valve to bring it down to what you want? Because this method you showing now seems so much easier then the 20-30 over thing lol
GOT QUESTION I GOT A FX WILDCAT MKlll 22cal my pellet pellet probe screw broke so I had to replace it was wondering if there was a adjustment for the pellet probe carrier because my cocking is not as smooth
Interesting explanation, I will try it! Only one thing is confusing me, how can I be sure what is correct speed that I want for certain pellet (or slug)? So how is desired speed corelated with different pellets and slugs? They all have different BC, weight, length...
That's a great question. Normally I know roughly what speed most pellets and slugs like. Pellets generally like between 850-930. I aim for about 920 to start. Slugs generally like faster between 960-1100. It's a game of figuring out what's best. This tuning guide would be how I would find my target speed.
@@abitoutside So, all in all, I need to prepare a lot of slugs/pellets and air :) I was hoping that there was some "math" behind best speed so it will be easier to find it out. I will try with your method. Thank you for answer! ;)
Note that I'm using a 6" phone, not a bigger tablet, notebook or PC and I couldn't see the writing on the brown cardboard. Maybe get a whiteboard at Wally world?
Just Subscribed. Thank you for the video mate. I personally got a lot out of it. Finally someone explaining things in terms the average Joe can understand. 👌
Awesome! I subbed! Question- I want to tune my .25 FX hybrid slugs in my 600mm M3 Impact pellet barrel. 1) Should I turn the barrel to the slug port, and 2) Should I start with the 100 bar (second reg pressure), or do you recommend starting higher?
Watched this video allot over and over and i do get the speed and the very low es and sd and after doing everything you show me, my gun still don't shoot accurate at all. I know i miss something😢😢
Great video. The two set points you need to decide when you start are, the speed you want to achieve and the weight of the projectile. Then when set up efficiently try different projectiles of that weight as some will group better at certain speeds and certain barrels. Endless tinkering!
Very informative video which actually made sense to me. My problem is that my fps does not change when moving the wheel from 16 to 1. Macro @16, thumb wheel out to about 5 and valve out to 6. Nothing changes except moving the valve in
Hello from Dubai and great video I wanted to shoot 30grain slug my setup is below M3/heavy liner/700mm Reg 120-130 Power wheel 6 Macro 2.4 Valve 3 lines Speed 988,977,967,972,979 The question is I wanted to shoot with some decent spread and fine tuning please correct me where am wrong Once completed the tuning process then I may try the grouping and zeroing thanks
@@abitoutside do I need to reduce the speed you mean between 950-960 the gun was tuned by someone now I wanted to do fine tuning by my end with your support thanks kindly help
@@abitoutside now I have some clear idea about fine tuning after watch ur clip I hope I can reduce the speed by touching hammer wheel micro and valve pls advice what needs to be done with my setup so I can come to the right path thanks 🙏👍🏻
thanks for sharing your experience i have a concern though 😅 since the valve is a big factor regarding the tuning process can i tune the gun for slugs and pellets at the same time? let’s say i tuned the valve for pellets then decided to shoot slugs for example the hammer wheel on 10 for jsb 34 gets me 920 and 14 gets me 960 on HN 36 gr OR do you think valve opening and closing will be an issue regarding accuracy and saving more air while trying tuning for both ?
This is a fantastic video on tuning the best I have seen so far, I just have one question though if I want to change the pellet speed say from 920 to 895 will I need to repeat the tuning process from the start?
Don't give a sh@!t for those haters buddy ! Your way on tune is the most common out there... It's what most people must do when they buy a brand new FX air gun So keep doing your great job ....
Thanks Moose love the video could you do one on the maverick every one is doing the m3 and the maverick seems to be forgotten thanks Ps I love the way you explain tuning
This might be a stupid question but say you want the gun shooting 880, why not just max out the hammer, find a reg pressure that shoots at say 950 and then just turn the hammer wheel down until it shoots 880. Wouldn’t that also be efficient? Just trying to learn here.
Interesting way of tuning that I haven't seen before. It does make sense, when you think about it. Thanks for the info. Now I need to get out there and give it a try with my new M3! Subscribing!
After watching the whole video I can comment. As I don't have an Impact. But I have a rti prophet that I maximize the hammer until it doesn't increase the desired speed anymore and I give the regulator a sniff to lower it about 10fps. With the wildcat mk2, I tuned the regulator to 135bar and I worked with the hammer until I reached perfection at 20 meters, then I saw the speed. With vulcan3 I can only tune the hammer so I go straight to 20 meters to perfection. Only then do I see the results at 90 meters. Rti and wildcat all have 135 bar regulator. The wild with 60J (not max hammer, about three full turns less) and the rti with 70J.
Sir i am using impact m3. 22 with power block i want change barrel to. 357 600mm and i don't want to mess with hammer spring and internal parts. Can i able to shoot. 357 with power upto 100yrd only adjusting micro and marco wheel .and please suggest me how much should be pressure 1st reg and 2nd for .22 and how much should be for. 357 1 and 2 reg so please guide me sir
Hey Moose, I really appreciate you responding to me yesterday. I had something else if you had a minute. I put the stock 700 mm barre backl on the .22 M3. Seems to be a little better. My question is, what speed should I be looking for? Some say 930, some say 1,000 and in between. The best I've got so far was the NSA 28.5 grain at 950 FPS. 3/4-in group at 50 yards. Not impressive. I'm setting this up for PRS for the Northeast airgun classic. I was hoping to shoot 32 grain or so slugs thinking it might help with the wind but I'm pretty new at this. Any input you want to throw at me would be awesome thanks.
So, *max out the hammer spring *fully back out vavle adjuster *Raise the reg until you hit your desired fps *slowly back off hammer spring until it drops 10 to 15 fps then bump it back up slightly to regain that 10 to 15 fps *spin in the valve adjuster until it affects fps then back it off slightly to regain the fps that dropped spinning it in So the goal is to keep that original fps you found with the maxed out hammer without dropping any fps while tuning the hammer spring and valve adjuster? Or should your end fps be slightly less than the original fps you got with the maxed out spring?
Just bought an impact m3. I'll probably watch this video 5 more times. 👍
Let me know how it goes for ya
You're a great teacher!! 3 weeks ago I bought an Impact M3 sniper .25 and have shot over 1200 pellets, trying to tune the gun to the FX 34 grain pellets. I've watched the FX masterclass video's over and over again, but it didn't get me where I wanted to be. I started watching your video (over and over again) a few days ago, started tuning my gun again (finally had the balls to change the second reg) and somehow it all clicked. Now I know what 'tuning your gun on top, or just over the top of the rainbow' actually means. Dude, you are awesome!! Today, on the range, I found my sweetspot and the gun is shooting like a dream. I shot my first 10 mm (5 shot) group at 50 meter (55yards) today, and get really good ES and SD numbers (11 and 2.9 over 30 shots). The thing that put the so called 'cherry on the cake' was me changing the moderator from the DonnyFL Sumo to the stock moderator. (way less flyers) 3 weeks of stress, failure, getting myself together and trying again, came to a close and it was beautiful. Greetings from The Netherlands and many THANKS!!!!
Glad I could help buddy.
the stock moderator helped??
The guns don't ship with a moderator, so what do you mean by "stock?" Do you mean nothing, or the DonnyFL / FX-branded suppressor?
@gofish4036 umm yes they do. And not sure if you noticed but you even admit it in your reply..lol
@@abitoutside well mine didn't come with one
I purchased my M3 a while back and was quite perplexed about tuning it. Despite scrolling through nearly a hundred videos, I still couldn't grasp it. Then, thankfully, I stumbled upon your video, which completely changed my understanding of tuning. Your teaching method is incredibly simple and effective. Many thanks and hats off to you, Sir!❤❤❤
Glad I could help!
Great vid, watched so many other video's and all they talked is what they like to do and never explained just how it actually works just the facts on how to.....Great Job.
I appreciate that!
This is probably the best video I have ever seen on how to obtain harmony between reg 2 , hammer wheel, micro hammer adjust and valve adjust for a desired speed. Once this is achieved the speed at which the gun has achieved harmony may or may not be the speed at which delivers the best accuracy . Ex .22 slug nest accuracy between 930-950 fps. This video is outstanding !!
Thank you
This is the BEST tutorial and philosophy of tuning I have seen! Thank you, I can clearly understand how to tune from scratch for any situation. Every other video I've seen either gives set values , is chasing their tail around or is describing the fine tune assuming you understand how to get everything else adjusted. Even the FX channel doesn't break it down this well. I won't even go into the chaos of trying to look through forums. You just saved me multiple tins of pellets I would have wasted trying to figure this out!
Thanks for the kind words. I am glad it helped.
This explanation is the best in TH-cam of how to tune FX, Well done
Just bought my m3 in .25 cal, compact model. Your video is outstanding and I look forward to following your methodology once I receive my rig in a few days. Thank you Moose.
Have fun!
Clear and precise, how refreshing to make sense of such a complex and complicated rifle. I loved the part about maxing out every thing so you know when the hammer will not actually engage. Great video. Thank you.
Glad you liked it.
I agree with many of the other comments. This is THE BEST tutorial for tuning you FX Impact M3. Thank you so much!
Glad it was helpful!
I'm so thankful I found this video! You explain it well and make it so simple to understand. I owned two FX Impact Mk2, watching FX masterclass video again and again for years but didn't get me anywhere fast, wasting so much time and lead. In fact, it makes me hesitant to try to tune it. Not anymore. Subbed!!
Glad it was helpful!
I've had my fx m3 for about a year now. Watched Ernest tune his impacts and whiskey 68 and just dozens of others. Your video just gave me that ha-haa moment. And I was a able to tune my gun with confidence. Maybe its because I grew up in Michigan but now live in Arizona that your explanation hit home. Thank you.
I want to show my appreciation by how to improve accuracy by clocking your barrel that is rarely talked about, a real game changer if you know how. I won't go into detail, but your fx viewers need to know. I'll explain how if you don't know. Send me a reply
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Finding that perfect combination is key. I've over pressurized my Maverick to the point where the projectile speed decreased as I increased the hammer setting. And someone else's tune should be used as a guide, each gun is different. Your explanation gives EVERYONE a guide to achieve the desired results. More speed usually means more air, more air means less shots per fill. The goal is to find that balance between ACCUARCY and SHOTS PER FILL. As you mentioned, wasted air actual diminishes accuracy by pushing the pellet outside the barrel without guidance from the barrel twist. Keep it up, there are always those that think they know better, but there are more of US that appreciate your efforts to achieve maximum accuracy without over stressing the system
Yep
Well said
and in the UK :-) Keep it up Moose, love this method of tuning.
Thank you for the tuning video... Eventhough my m3 is 177 but as you said, it is all the same principle for tuning.. Now you get a new subscriber from indonesia... Thank you again and God bless you and family...
Glad it helped
Great video Moose, thanks!
Glad you liked it!
I am not an expert at all just a humble enthusiast, learnig a lot with every new review, thumbs up sir!!!!
Absolutely brilliant way to explain tuning the M3, helped me to understand it much better. Thank you
Glad you liked it!
You made tuning my impact 3 in 22 so easy. Thank you. The best and easiest to understand video on tuning that I have found. Thank you!
Very welcome
The best explaniation I have ever seen. Thanks so very much!!! I have an FX impact mark ll and have never tuned it since I purchased from Utah Air Guns. 25 cal slug liner shooting pellets and slugs on the orighinal tune. Again perfect explanation. --Jackson
Thanks buddy
Finally. An excellent video that explains in detail about tuning the M3. I just picked mine up from HPP the other day and I was extremely overwhelmed trying to understand all of the adjustment points, what does what, etc. So, as a new dude, thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it.
The best video on tuning the M3. Hands down. Got my groups super tight by just following your advice. U are a legend.
Thanks Mike I do it for you all
Rewatched today after setting my reg1 to 175 and my reg2 to 135. Trying to achieve 925-950 fps with a NSA .25 43.5 grain slug. Improved from yesterday's 820 to today's 860 but still not there. Now I need to go back thru your recommended steps. Start Macro 16 , micro to sear engage plus two clicks, Valve all the way out. Interesting observation. Once the above is set, work back to front on the gun. Macro - Micro - Valve. Can't wait to work this and see my results. If I can't achieve my fps, I won't be disappointed as I know the gun will be set up as well as possible.
P.S. Born and raised in Michigan .... Thanks again!
You will need higher reg pressure, also you may need a heavier hammer.. Do not use that heavy Tungsten. Huma tuning hammers work fine
Thanks for the advice. I am going to see where this leads for velocity and accuracy. If I can't get close, I will up the regs and start again. Thanks again!
Great vid thanks this is going to help a lot. Dam it was hard to watch that M3 balance with one leg off the table. I dropped my M3 the same way only days after finally getting one punched the barrel out the back of the power block.
Great video in explaining tuning.
Sir I have my power wheel set at sdifferent settings for 3diff pellets but its shooting rear well, and your video is the best I've seen thanks for your work helped alot, now for some fine tuning, thanks again
I am very glad it helped. It's why I do what I do!
@@abitoutside sir so if I have power wheel set for fps I like, do I turn valve gradually until it changes then same for micro wheel?
Micro then valve
Thank you Sir, I have trawled all over the internet for this information and finally found it all in one place. Fantastic 🙂
Glad it was helpful!
I don’t even own a gun and never have but want too. I understand just what you are saying, good teacher. Thanks
Well thank you sir
If I'd have put my rifle with the leg missing the table like that mine would have fallen off lol, this is a great tune guide thanks you.
I didn't even notice, im glad mine didn't fall!
Lol. I had anxiety watching it the whole time.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! As a noob, this is PRICELESS! (But $10 is a start!;))
Thank you. I was messing around with my .25 M3 today. Could not get 43.2 grain NSA slugs above 820. Now I know why. I was doing it all wrong. I will be rewatching to start over with my M3 once I refill it. Awesome teaching video. 👍🏻
Anytime, glad it helped
I have a M3 and finally I now know how to tune it. You got yourself a new subscriber!
Thank you, probably the most useful piece of information that actually makes sense on tuning the M3. Currently I am wasting air but did not understand why! Will definitely give this a try.
Glad it helped
Fantastic explanation of the concepts of PCP system. Great job. Pls request you to publish the approximate speed for good accuracy of FX Impact/Crown with different caliber and grain pellets. I am asking for too much, but you are the best guy to do this ..
Honestly, most Diabolo pellets fly best at 900-920 fps.
Awesome tutorial! It gave me the confidence to upgrade from my .22 Dreamline ( 1st PCP) to a .30 Cal Impact. I spent hours tinkering with my Dreamline and learned allot but your tutorial helped make all click. 😀
Glad it helped
Yup I agree on the way you tune your rifle that's how I do it I go for a fps like 885 fps but I take it to 915 to 920 then back off till I hit 880 to 885 just like you said brotha thanks for sharing bsafe buddy 👍
I agree with Anthonye7216, your explanation was very clear and descriptive. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Very much appreciated that explanation. As an FX user I found it very easy to follow along in detail. When I get around to making a video on my M3 and pest control setup, I'll be sure to suggest your video and link for detailed information on tuning 💪
Thanks buddy, I appreciate it
Great summary. Thanks. This video makes the process clearer to me.
Great to hear!
Excellent explanation and tutorial, thank you!
You're very welcome!
All I no I stay around the 150 bar on the front regulator and around 75 bars on the rear.🤠🇺🇸
Thanks.... a compete instructive video in simple terms. Now, after a year, I understand.... makes sense finally. Keep it up.
Thanks buddy
I must say that this is the best explanation of tuning the FX Impact I’ve seen. Love the way you get in deep but not too deep of explaining the tuning process. I just found your channel the other day and boy am I glad I found you. Keep ‘‘em coming. You doing a great jobb and don’t let anyone else say otherwise.
👍👍👍
Thanks buddy, I'll keep them coming
Good explanation, easy to understand
Thanks
Excellent tutorial
Thank you! Cheers!
Just Purchased an FX Impact MK3 Sniper FAC in .22 cal and found your video on the Tuning for 18.1gr Pellets very informative. I was just wondering what your first regulator is set to. I currently have mine set at 150 bar. Regards David
30 - 40 bar more than second reg
Thanks for sharing I will need to watch this a few more times for it to sink in
the sehkment gaugesure helps as it tells you how much air used per shot how accurate it is but good way to tell
Yep, I have them on my Maverick
Just got an M3 - this was very informative, thanks!
You are very welcome
thanks for this video. Finally I understand the tuning better.
Glad it helped!
@@abitoutside just wish i had some basics to start the speed for a certain slug weight
Depends on slugs, but start around 940 and go up till groups are great.
Great video Moose.
When you got to your hypothetical 110 bar and 9PW for 915fps, could you creep your reg up to say 113 so that you could re-max your PW to 16, just above your desired velocity say 930… then creep the valve back just a little bit or click the wheel one click to 15 until it gets back to 915?
I’m no bench rester by any stretch and barely have time to test, but I like having ALL the adjustability I can so that I can shoot like 3-4 different projectiles. I also I shoot in 40% humidity and 100% humidity in the same day or even hour!
For example I shoot:
- 14.3gr on PW1 at close range for small creatures @ 950-970 (I know too fast)
- 18-19gr on PW8 at I think @ 910
- 25gr pellets PW16 @ 915
- 22-25gr slugs on PW16 between 900-1000fps for longer shots.
I have such huge swings in temp, humidity and elevation where I shoot that I find my speeds can vary shockingly and use that adjustability to get back to harmony.
This is what I’ve been doing. All that basically only touching the round knob. I’m sure/know I’m not optimized for anything, but guess my question is… I don’t want a worthless #10-16 on my wheel. I really love the versatility that the Impact platform can afford.
Am I missing something? It seems to work. I AM ASKING, not just trying to tell you what I do. I’m really new to PCP stuff but have a good grasp on firearm stuff in general.
Absolutely, this guide was intended to get people roughly where they should be. Minor changes are what we all need to do to accomplish our goals
Really appreciate your explanation of the system. Makes complete sense now! Thanks Moose!
Anytime buddy, glad it helped
Great video
Thank's , most in depth explanation on tuning I've seen . Really clears things up on how to get started .
Glad you enjoyed 😉
Best video on tuning ive seen ,nice one
Thanks buddy, that means a lot to me.
Great video, very informative, and your passive-aggressive way towards Karens and trolls make it a lot more enjoyable haha, long time follower here. Hi from Costa Rica! keep those videos coming.
Lol, ya Karen's crack me up and are great to make fun of
Good video, thanks for taking your time to try and help others, greatly appriciated!
Outstanding explanation...keeping it simple!
Yep, no need to complicate
Very good video, congratulations. I have a question. It is true that when setting to maximum, you should clearly hear how the plenum fills with air or that depends on each rifle. And another question is what is the range of a good standard deviation? greetings and thanks
Thanks, plenum sound never concerned me. Also less than 3 is sufficient less than 2 is ideal
Im looking to getting into the airgun world and watching aas much as i can as to learn about these guns. I have watched a few different tuning videos and i understood exactly how you explained each step very well. Thank you so much for such a well made tutorial on tuning. Cant wait til i can put my order in for my FX.
Great video moose it has lots of great information Very well done keep the videos coming
Will do
Best Information I have found so far. Thank you very much and Greetings from Germany 👍🏻
Glad I could help
Bubba I like the way you told the keyboard experts and Tubey to pound salt right outta the gate,. Thumbs Up all the way..
I'm not an expert nor do I claim to be,. If I was I wouldn't need to be on your channel. (almost was gonna make a Funny out that)but I'll save it.
You may remember I just bought a Panthera and is my 1st. FX and Tuner.
Anyway mine is still on a truck and I'm just grazing while it's moving.
I doing the how much mud is sticking to the wall deal.
Think I got a good Idea how to proceed and where to start.
I just need a pile ammo and still day.
Cheers.
Thanks, make sure to let us know how the new pew does
Everyone is right Moose best video for tuning the M3. I've been fiddling with mine for weeks. .22 cal with the 800mm tension barrel. Tried javelin, NSA, zan, H&N. from 28 grain to 33 grain. Can get any good groups. I put the stock 700 mm barrel on. Seems a little better. My question is, what speed should I be looking for. Some say 930, some say 1,000 and in between. The best I've got so far was the NSA 28.5 gn at 950. 3/4" group at 50 yards. Not impressive. I'm setting this up for PRS for the northeast air gun classic. I was hoping to shoot 32 grain or so thinking it might help more in the wind but I'm pretty new at this. Any input you want to throw at me would be awesome. Thanks.
Anything less that 35gr should be a superior liner. Slug liner for over 35
Thank you good explanation 🎉
I've been really liking the amount of videos you've been creating. Great having new stuff to watch. Thanks!
Thanks
Is that better then the 20-30fps over your speed then use the valve to bring it down to what you want? Because this method you showing now seems so much easier then the 20-30 over thing lol
Great Explanation. Thank you
The best explanation ever 👏👏👏👏
Very clear and direct to the point
Glad it was helpful!
GOT QUESTION I GOT A FX WILDCAT MKlll 22cal my pellet pellet probe screw broke so I had to replace it was wondering if there was a adjustment for the pellet probe carrier because my cocking is not as smooth
I would need to see it to assist with that one, sorry. Try to find a local shop and see if they can help.
Wow wow can’t believe how much out of tune my riffle was can’t thank you enough.
Hope it gets better
@@abitoutside it is I did not go to work I’m out shooting got my first sub Moa group just now dialing in some more
Interesting explanation, I will try it! Only one thing is confusing me, how can I be sure what is correct speed that I want for certain pellet (or slug)? So how is desired speed corelated with different pellets and slugs? They all have different BC, weight, length...
That's a great question. Normally I know roughly what speed most pellets and slugs like. Pellets generally like between 850-930. I aim for about 920 to start. Slugs generally like faster between 960-1100. It's a game of figuring out what's best. This tuning guide would be how I would find my target speed.
@@abitoutside So, all in all, I need to prepare a lot of slugs/pellets and air :) I was hoping that there was some "math" behind best speed so it will be easier to find it out. I will try with your method. Thank you for answer! ;)
Note that I'm using a 6" phone, not a bigger tablet, notebook or PC and I couldn't see the writing on the brown cardboard. Maybe get a whiteboard at Wally world?
Already did. I thought the same thing
Very informative video!! thx.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great explanation! Straight forward! Thanks 👍🏼
Just Subscribed. Thank you for the video mate. I personally got a lot out of it. Finally someone explaining things in terms the average Joe can understand. 👌
Awesome! I subbed! Question- I want to tune my .25 FX hybrid slugs in my 600mm M3 Impact pellet barrel. 1) Should I turn the barrel to the slug port, and 2) Should I start with the 100 bar (second reg pressure), or do you recommend starting higher?
Thanks for the sub buddy. Yes the slug port and 100 might be ok to start, doesn't hurt to start lower to find that sweet spot.
Thank you!
@@abitoutside
Watched this video allot over and over and i do get the speed and the very low es and sd and after doing everything you show me, my gun still don't shoot accurate at all.
I know i miss something😢😢
By your other post I am guessing 22 caliber and slugs. If so we all struggle with that
Great video.
The two set points you need to decide when you start are, the speed you want to achieve and the weight of the projectile. Then when set up efficiently try different projectiles of that weight as some will group better at certain speeds and certain barrels.
Endless tinkering!
Very informative video which actually made sense to me. My problem is that my fps does not change when moving the wheel from 16 to 1. Macro @16, thumb wheel out to about 5 and valve out to 6. Nothing changes except moving the valve in
What caliber and what reg pressure? Stock hammer?
@@abitoutside .25 600mm barrel, stock hammer, 1st reg @ 140, 2nd reg @ 100, JSB 33.94 mkII pellets, 885 fps
@@sbb8882 this happened to me as well. Any resolution?
Good video my man
Glad you enjoyed
@@abitoutside ok thanks
Hello from Dubai and great video I wanted to shoot 30grain slug my setup is below
M3/heavy liner/700mm
Reg 120-130
Power wheel 6
Macro 2.4
Valve 3 lines
Speed 988,977,967,972,979
The question is I wanted to shoot with some decent spread and fine tuning please correct me where am wrong
Once completed the tuning process then I may try the grouping and zeroing thanks
Why so fast? The valve and regulator are not able to keep up it appears. I'd slow it down a bit don't push it so hard.
@@abitoutside do I need to reduce the speed you mean between 950-960 the gun was tuned by someone now I wanted to do fine tuning by my end with your support thanks kindly help
@@abitoutside thanks for the response where do I need to control and what is the speed I can focus for 30grain slugs on 700mm barrel
@@abitoutside now I have some clear idea about fine tuning after watch ur clip I hope I can reduce the speed by touching hammer wheel micro and valve pls advice what needs to be done with my setup so I can come to the right path thanks 🙏👍🏻
Nice job!
thanks for sharing your experience
i have a concern though 😅
since the valve is a big factor regarding the tuning process
can i tune the gun for slugs and pellets at the same time?
let’s say i tuned the valve for pellets
then decided to shoot slugs
for example the hammer wheel on 10 for jsb 34 gets me 920 and 14 gets me 960 on HN 36 gr
OR do you think valve opening and closing will be an issue regarding accuracy and saving more air while trying tuning for both ?
This is a fantastic video on tuning the best I have seen so far, I just have one question though if I want to change the pellet speed say from 920 to 895 will I need to repeat the tuning process from the start?
Ot necessarily you can use the valve adjustment alone to correct this small change
@@abitoutside Makes sense, thank you for that reply
Don't give a sh@!t for those haters buddy ! Your way on tune is the most common out there... It's what most people must do when they buy a brand new FX air gun So keep doing your great job ....
Right! Thank for the boost
👍
Very easy to understand!
Great job! Τhanks.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks Moose love the video could you do one on the maverick every one is doing the m3 and the maverick seems to be forgotten thanks Ps I love the way you explain tuning
Sure I will do one on the Maverick
@@abitoutside YES please
This might be a stupid question but say you want the gun shooting 880, why not just max out the hammer, find a reg pressure that shoots at say 950 and then just turn the hammer wheel down until it shoots 880. Wouldn’t that also be efficient? Just trying to learn here.
Great question, im not prepared to type out the answer to that right now. I'll do another video soon to show why that isn't a great idea.
Def earned a sub here. Thank you sir, excellent job.
19-22minutes is the gravy.
Well explained sir 👍
Interesting way of tuning that I haven't seen before. It does make sense, when you think about it. Thanks for the info. Now I need to get out there and give it a try with my new M3! Subscribing!
Yea man, go get it.
@@abitoutside scope just showed up a day ahead, so mount it today, and tune tomorrow morning before it gets too hot. 107° right now at noon.
When you say "turn the valve in" are you reducing the number lines ex. 5 down to 4.5 or lower? Thanks
Yes sir
Great video, appreciate it
No problem 👍
After watching the whole video I can comment. As I don't have an Impact. But I have a rti prophet that I maximize the hammer until it doesn't increase the desired speed anymore and I give the regulator a sniff to lower it about 10fps. With the wildcat mk2, I tuned the regulator to 135bar and I worked with the hammer until I reached perfection at 20 meters, then I saw the speed. With vulcan3 I can only tune the hammer so I go straight to 20 meters to perfection. Only then do I see the results at 90 meters. Rti and wildcat all have 135 bar regulator. The wild with 60J (not max hammer, about three full turns less) and the rti with 70J.
Sir i am using impact m3. 22 with power block i want change barrel to. 357 600mm and i don't want to mess with hammer spring and internal parts. Can i able to shoot. 357 with power upto 100yrd only adjusting micro and marco wheel .and please suggest me how much should be pressure 1st reg and 2nd for .22 and how much should be for. 357 1 and 2 reg so please guide me sir
Follow the tuning guide, it will only do what you tune it to do.
Hey Moose, I really appreciate you responding to me yesterday. I had something else if you had a minute. I put the stock 700 mm barre backl on the .22 M3. Seems to be a little better. My question is, what speed should I be looking for? Some say 930, some say 1,000 and in between. The best I've got so far was the NSA 28.5 grain at 950 FPS. 3/4-in group at 50 yards. Not impressive. I'm setting this up for PRS for the Northeast airgun classic. I was hoping to shoot 32 grain or so slugs thinking it might help with the wind but I'm pretty new at this. Any input you want to throw at me would be awesome thanks.
That is a question only testing will answer. Normally I find that 980-1000 is best for most slugs. However, it can sometimes be lower speeds.
So,
*max out the hammer spring
*fully back out vavle adjuster
*Raise the reg until you hit your desired fps
*slowly back off hammer spring until it drops 10 to 15 fps then bump it back up slightly to regain that 10 to 15 fps
*spin in the valve adjuster until it affects fps then back it off slightly to regain the fps that dropped spinning it in
So the goal is to keep that original fps you found with the maxed out hammer without dropping any fps while tuning the hammer spring and valve adjuster? Or should your end fps be slightly less than the original fps you got with the maxed out spring?