multiple examples, practical applications and a finished result, what more could you ask for in a tutorial, thanks for the tips, I learned something today
Yep it's a handy little trick that makes joins like that easy for both seasoned professionals and beginners. You have yourself a Merry Christmas as well!
No worries, thanks! You didn't need to apologize, and yet you did anyway. In my books, this shows me that you're a man of good character! But I'm sure I will be guilty from time to time as I upload more videos of missing obvious insights (Hopefully, not too often, haha). Have a good one!
A much easier way, a you only have to mark the miter on the wide board: Mark and cut the wide board and place it against the fence like you did with the board cut at 45°. Set the saw to 90° and press the narrow board against the cut on the wide board, and slide it so the blade meets the corner and make the second cut. Two benefits: Firstly you don't have to line up the wide/guide board exactly with the blade, and secondly you are guaranteed that the two angles add up to exactly 90°.
Excellent demonstration, tips like this are priceless to me. Interesting channel, I think I will hang around for a bit and see what else you have up your sleeve. I'm way over on the Westcoast, on Vancouver Island.
Thanks for the input on my small channel! I find it never hurts to have a few tricks and ways to look at things and tackle a problem, big or small... I have lots planned for the channel. The Westcoast is an amazing place, especially when you come from a prairie province like me!
Dude not so tricky, that's basic and showing an incorrect angle to start and any carpenter or person with basic math knows this is easy. All that layout is unnecessary, the first angle scribed on both pieces is cut. Not instructional to muddy a simple cut/layout which is reflected in the lack of replies.
I liked that you got round to the math there, it was what I was thinking early on. also your solution to stabilizing the work piece was interesting, using most actual double faced tape would be a lot of work to clean off after.
Trig. Take the width of the wider board and divide by the width of the narrower multiply by inverse tangent. 4" ÷ 2" × tan -¹ = 63.4°. I know some people are scared by math, but it's on every smart phone and very simple and doesn't rely on layout lines being drawn and measured correctly.
I agree! It's easy for lots of people to get put off by math... but when you have the right formula and plug in the numbers, it's easy to get the answer you're searching for (especially when mostly everyone is likely carrying a cell phone in their pocket) I wish I would have thought of including this in the video as well... next time!
@Ashton1andonly The tip for adding the auxiliary fence at 45° to be able to achieve the angles under 45° that the miter saw can't accomplish on its own is appreciated, I will definitelyuse it at some point in the future. The tape trick is very valuable and I hope everyone would use it and not try the quick, more dangerous way of just holding it with no extra support. Pretty sketchy! Always ask yourself, "how many minutes of my time is one of my fingers worth to me?" 😆 It always convinces me to take the time to do it the proper way.
I've definitely seen my fair share of "Sketchy Cuts" cuts over the years and had a few close calls myself... enough to make me take the time to figure out how to do it safely!
Cool thing about it is that along as you could hold the boards at the exact angle you wanted them at, it will work. However, when you're overlapping the boards on the angle, you want the ends would have to be either 1st cut at an angle or run them past if it's already cut at 90 degrees... I wish I could post a picture on my comment because it would make more sense than me explaining it this way haha
Hey, I used Ecopoxy's FlowCast Epoxy and Tinted it Black in this case. I'll be making a video on this countertop build in more detail in the near future.
Putting the cut line on the opposite side and cutting from the opposite side you don’t need all this mucking about about regardless of knowing or not knowing the actual angles. If you do 90 - 58 = 32 degrees. A. Angle that you can cut with the mitre table.
Fair enough... My thought is to give a few ways to solve a problem. So every way that gets the same result is fair game. Although where I think this comes in handy is when you have a situation with a live edge top like I do in the video and you needed miter two boards together that are too wide for the miter saw and don't have a straight edge for reference ( although in my video there is 1 straight edge ) this trick works great for that.
20 strokes with a 12-ppi crosscut handsaw would do the trick. Power tools are nice, but sheesh, don't forget the beauty of a handsaw for four 58-degree cuts in thin material. Relying on sticky tape to keep the wood from sliding on the chop saw is crazy, to me.
Just a side note and said with greatest respect: LOOSE THE BACKGROUND RACKET (MUSIC). It's not needed and only diminishes the quality of an otherwise very well done instructional.
Thanks for being respectful and giving me positive constructive criticism. I actually really appreciate feedback like this as it helps me make editing decisions in my videos moving forward... As a side note, I was waffling on using the background music...
@@Ashton1andonly Back in the late 90's the school district I was working for had weekly training sessions on how to use the 'new' audio-visual technology that came at us full speed ahead. As a high school vocational teacher this training was exceptionally useful. Nothing fancy, but just the basics on how to construct quality lessons. I am by no means an expert I just picked up a few things that made my teaching more powerful and effective. Thanks for your response. Take care and stay safe.
The video would be the more precise way but you can use math. If you found the first angle then minus that from 90. The answer would be your second angle.
Turn of phrase... I would say that most, if not all, TH-cam videos on any woodworking techniques are nothing new and have been covered in serval different ways. But hopefully, I explained this in a way that helps someone out if they come across this scenario.
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multiple examples, practical applications and a finished result, what more could you ask for in a tutorial, thanks for the tips, I learned something today
Awesome, thanks!
Nice tips. Especially appreciate your focus on doing it safely. Thanks!
Thanks!
Thanks, M8. Forgotten how many times I've messed up that cut and gone for a different joint. Take care & stay safe. Merry Christmas to you & yours.
Yep it's a handy little trick that makes joins like that easy for both seasoned professionals and beginners. You have yourself a Merry Christmas as well!
Brilliant, thank you. Terrific video. I have run into this problem before.
Thanks!
Sorry man, I wrote my comment before finished watching the rest. Great job all around.
No worries, thanks! You didn't need to apologize, and yet you did anyway. In my books, this shows me that you're a man of good character! But I'm sure I will be guilty from time to time as I upload more videos of missing obvious insights (Hopefully, not too often, haha). Have a good one!
Great video. An excellent trick of the trade.
By the way that counter top is a beautiful piece.
Thanks! Glad you liked the countertop, too... at some point I'll be doing a video on the build of this top. Nothing fancy but hopefully entertaining!
I use the math of 90° while figuring rafters and stair stringers. Good video 👍🏼
Thanks!
A much easier way, a you only have to mark the miter on the wide board:
Mark and cut the wide board and place it against the fence like you did with the board cut at 45°. Set the saw to 90° and press the narrow board against the cut on the wide board, and slide it so the blade meets the corner and make the second cut.
Two benefits:
Firstly you don't have to line up the wide/guide board exactly with the blade, and secondly you are guaranteed that the two angles add up to exactly 90°.
That's a great suggestion!
Excellent demonstration, tips like this are priceless to me.
Interesting channel, I think I will hang around for a bit and see what else you have up your sleeve.
I'm way over on the Westcoast, on Vancouver Island.
Thanks for the input on my small channel! I find it never hurts to have a few tricks and ways to look at things and tackle a problem, big or small... I have lots planned for the channel. The Westcoast is an amazing place, especially when you come from a prairie province like me!
Great solution to a tricky problem.
Thanks!
Dude not so tricky, that's basic and showing an incorrect angle to start and any carpenter or person with basic math knows this is easy. All that layout is unnecessary, the first angle scribed on both pieces is cut. Not instructional to muddy a simple cut/layout which is reflected in the lack of replies.
Great tip, I will be using your idea. Thx.
Thank you, I have a project coming up that the information/ tutorial you just gave will be very useful. The for the video, I appreciate it.
Thanks! Glad this is of use to you!
Checkout the Sawset Protractor.
Great demo
Thanks!
Great video and process. Thanks for that. For angles try excel formula =DEGREES(ATAN(A1/B1)).
I liked that you got round to the math there, it was what I was thinking early on. also your solution to stabilizing the work piece was interesting, using most actual double faced tape would be a lot of work to clean off after.
Thanks! Yes, you're right, I could see double faced tape being a bit problematic to clean off
OOPS is your friend, available at walmart, cleans tape adhesive well.
Cool good to know!
There are brands of double sided tape specifically made for woodworking. They remove easily without chipping the wood or leaving adhesive residue.
Trig. Take the width of the wider board and divide by the width of the narrower multiply by inverse tangent. 4" ÷ 2" × tan -¹ = 63.4°. I know some people are scared by math, but it's on every smart phone and very simple and doesn't rely on layout lines being drawn and measured correctly.
I agree! It's easy for lots of people to get put off by math... but when you have the right formula and plug in the numbers, it's easy to get the answer you're searching for (especially when mostly everyone is likely carrying a cell phone in their
pocket) I wish I would have thought of including this in the video as well... next time!
@Ashton1andonly The tip for adding the auxiliary fence at 45° to be able to achieve the angles under 45° that the miter saw can't accomplish on its own is appreciated, I will definitelyuse it at some point in the future. The tape trick is very valuable and I hope everyone would use it and not try the quick, more dangerous way of just holding it with no extra support. Pretty sketchy! Always ask yourself, "how many minutes of my time is one of my fingers worth to me?" 😆 It always convinces me to take the time to do it the proper way.
I've definitely seen my fair share of "Sketchy Cuts" cuts over the years and had a few close calls myself... enough to make me take the time to figure out how to do it safely!
Excellent
Thanks!
@0:45 Marking it freehand the 2 sides may not be exactly at a right angle. I would line up the 2 pieces with a L-square and overlap the ends.
Yep, that would certainly help to keep things square.
Does that tracing trick still work if the degree angle isn't 90? Like would it still work if the degree was 130 or 10?
Cool thing about it is that along as you could hold the boards at the exact angle you wanted them at, it will work. However, when you're overlapping the boards on the angle, you want the ends would have to be either 1st cut at an angle or run them past if it's already cut at 90 degrees... I wish I could post a picture on my comment because it would make more sense than me explaining it this way haha
No need for a sacrificial fence. Take the first board you cut and use that as the fence. The exact angle will be cut on the 2nd piece.
Great tip. Thanks!
what do you use to fill the not holes in that board at 10. 51 on your vid,
Hey, I used Ecopoxy's FlowCast Epoxy and Tinted it Black in this case. I'll be making a video on this countertop build in more detail in the near future.
thank you am just doing a counter top for my daughter and was wondering how to do that part thank you again
Awesome! Good luck! I hope it turns out well for you!
Putting the cut line on the opposite side and cutting from the opposite side you don’t need all this mucking about about regardless of knowing or not knowing the actual angles. If you do 90 - 58 = 32 degrees. A. Angle that you can cut with the mitre table.
Fair enough... My thought is to give a few ways to solve a problem. So every way that gets the same result is fair game. Although where I think this comes in handy is when you have a situation with a live edge top like I do in the video and you needed miter two boards together that are too wide for the miter saw and don't have a straight edge for reference ( although in my video there is 1 straight edge ) this trick works great for that.
The safe way is to have two pieces cut at 45 degrees, one to the left as shown, one to the right both meeting exactly where blade kerf will be. . . .
That's a great option!
Hotdamn you're good
Haha thanks!
Instead of making a jig for the high angle, why not just adding a spacer to the left?
20 strokes with a 12-ppi crosscut handsaw would do the trick. Power tools are nice, but sheesh, don't forget the beauty of a handsaw for four 58-degree cuts in thin material. Relying on sticky tape to keep the wood from sliding on the chop saw is crazy, to me.
That's a good point... one I missed in this video I see. Hand tools can be a great alternative to power tools and in todays age, often overlooked...
look at all that sawdust----must be a bosch 12 inch articulating arm mitre saw
You are correct. It definitely throws off a bit of dust.
Or about any mitre saw without dust collection
Just a side note and said with greatest respect: LOOSE THE BACKGROUND RACKET (MUSIC). It's not needed and only diminishes the quality of an otherwise very well done instructional.
Thanks for being respectful and giving me positive constructive criticism. I actually really appreciate feedback like this as it helps me make editing decisions in my videos moving forward... As a side note, I was waffling on using the background music...
@@Ashton1andonly Back in the late 90's the school district I was working for had weekly training sessions on how to use the 'new' audio-visual technology that came at us full speed ahead. As a high school vocational teacher this training was exceptionally useful. Nothing fancy, but just the basics on how to construct quality lessons. I am by no means an expert I just picked up a few things that made my teaching more powerful and effective.
Thanks for your response. Take care and stay safe.
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Its "Double Stick Tape"....
So simple but could be difficult if we forget 🥴
Haha, yes, just like it should be simple to remember my wife's birthday/ anniversary but problematic if I forget
GLUE? or just use a hand saw easy ......
Instead of measuring twice, you could also know that the two angles must add up to 90°.
Someone didn’t watch the whole video 😂
The video would be the more precise way but you can use math. If you found the first angle then minus that from 90. The answer would be your second angle.
Topic covered @ 5:25
@@RyshusMojo1 yes you're right. The content creator and I had this conversation.
That's not a secret. It's well known and there are many TH-cam videos on the topic.
Turn of phrase... I would say that most, if not all, TH-cam videos on any woodworking techniques are nothing new and have been covered in serval different ways. But hopefully, I explained this in a way that helps someone out if they come across this scenario.
A secret? Cutting them both to the same degree is a _secret?_
Not a secret. A "turn of phrase" however cutting them to the same degree isn't quite correct... check out the video and see..