Bay of Pigs Invasion: Lessons Learned

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  • @1QYITSTORM
    @1QYITSTORM 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Online schooling brought me here. Very much needed view

  • @bassboi2001
    @bassboi2001 11 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    My grandpa was in that brigade. He took me to the memorial in Little Havana when I was a kid. My grandpa and I were very close. He raised me.

    • @mythicaim
      @mythicaim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "were very close" what happened

    • @bassboi-ru4um
      @bassboi-ru4um 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mythicaim he lived towards his late 80s. He moved to Atlanta and I never saw him again 😭

    • @mythicaim
      @mythicaim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bassboi-ru4um why would you reply after 7 years of that post being up

    • @gabrielmcollazo6675
      @gabrielmcollazo6675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Be proud! None of them had an inckling of greed in them . They all gave! For you ,for me, for all of us ! Be Proud! Your Granpa was a good man!

    • @Beef_jerky_official
      @Beef_jerky_official ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mythicaimwhy would you ask after 7 years? And not expect a answer

  • @ocm1774
    @ocm1774 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    In the 1960s the Cuban people was never going to rise against Fidel Castro, there were people of course that didn’t want Castro, but not enough to cause an uprising, and to me that is a key factor.

    • @deathfire096
      @deathfire096 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      it was too soon for the Cuban people revolt against Castro. He was in office for 2 years and most of the Cubans liked him and his social programs. Socialism like communism is great for the poor at first.

    • @gabrielmcollazo6675
      @gabrielmcollazo6675 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep Castro did the next best thing ! Divide and Conquer ! Like Caesar!

    • @jasse85
      @jasse85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gabrielmcollazo6675 comparing Castro to Caesar is like comparing a beach pebble to mount everest.

  • @WmGood
    @WmGood 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The Bay of Pigs fiasco foretold the US defeat in Vietnam. Reasons: The military industrial complex, then as now, is more apt to believe we need a war when we don't since they don't make any money if we don't. Next, intelligent assessment of what we're getting into and an escape plan were not even thought of by the military or politicians. If this sounds familiar it's because the Bay of Pigs failure was to reoccur in Vietnam and yet again in Iraq for the exact same reasons. Failure was assured at the starting gate. .

    • @pariscommune9742
      @pariscommune9742 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You have put it so aptly

    • @LBNLDC1
      @LBNLDC1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When governments get away with lying they are encouraged to continue doing so. No mystery.

  • @vivekgoswami2528
    @vivekgoswami2528 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great way of explaining the decision making and the various factors involved in it

  • @Crosmando
    @Crosmando 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    America needs to understand what NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY means. No country is allowed to interfere in the affairs of another country.

    • @gabrielmcollazo6675
      @gabrielmcollazo6675 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep but IKE had other arrogant plans! and dropped them all on JFK ;for the worse! Very ratty of him ! Same as when he too got rid of PATTON! IKE was same as Castro . He got rid of the Competition! Do you know that Ike changed his name !!!! So he could get into West Pt.!!!!! and much more!

  • @alexbidge
    @alexbidge 9 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Hey Kennedy, Cuba is a happy country, poor but happy

    • @bigfatpenetrator1422
      @bigfatpenetrator1422 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      True, I'd rather live on Cuba than the us

    • @jadenhamilton8426
      @jadenhamilton8426 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Satsui maybe because immigrants are allowed to just visit not stay. P.S. Cuba is the safest country in the entire Western Hemisphere

    • @alexbidge
      @alexbidge 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Jaden Hamilton you are right, very low crime, drugs really hard to get....a lot of cops ...hopefully it won't change ..

    • @jadenhamilton8426
      @jadenhamilton8426 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +alevedado I agree

    • @KAIROA
      @KAIROA 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +alevedado
      Happy with hunger.
      Happy without a good home.
      Happy without meat...because the Cubans don't even know where the meat come from. If you kill a cow you go to jail for 25 years and son on.

  • @akkadianmendaean9939
    @akkadianmendaean9939 10 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Now do a Lesson NOT Learned: Iran-contra affair.

  • @PostalPatriot556
    @PostalPatriot556 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That plan was more washed out bridge and less bumpy road.

  • @orcodrilo
    @orcodrilo 12 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    People just don't care. Politics and history will always have less views than comedy and music.

    • @Maplefrog-sh7sm
      @Maplefrog-sh7sm 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah, have you ever seen Ted Ed's videos??

  • @parkhdc
    @parkhdc 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really, these video aren't getting NEARLY enough views on youtube. I don't know if it is a matter of how views are counted with the embed on the CFR site or what, but all of the Lessons Learned videos are awesome.

  • @marsilingmartian239
    @marsilingmartian239 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Lessons the US should learned. Don't openly support democracy but place dictators in other countries.

    • @LBNLDC1
      @LBNLDC1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Multinational corporations prefer dictators they can bribe. Like Cuba’s Battista.

  • @larrynava9439
    @larrynava9439 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    He wasn't blink much. Strange...

  • @Owlsnestranch
    @Owlsnestranch 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's probably just as well we didn't retake Cuba from Castro, leaving room for Russia to counter by taking over a country in Western Europe. Back then it was kind of a chess game. For all of us, it was far better that things played out like they did. Had the United States invaded China over their involvement in the Korean War (Like Macarthur suggested) along with retaking Cuba, and Later on to drop an atomic bomb on Hanoi to get our way in Vietnam, sooner or later The Soviet Union would have to declare war to save face. World War Three would have been the destruction of us all.

  • @vinishabhagdev9890
    @vinishabhagdev9890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! Thank you for thoroughly explaining the invasion and being so precise.

    • @jamesanthony5681
      @jamesanthony5681 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He missed a good number of important details.

    • @skilift8717
      @skilift8717 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hi

  • @papadoc711
    @papadoc711 11 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Its always about American security.

    • @suutari13
      @suutari13 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True but security from what ??? In invading and terrorizing other countries they are creating security risks for themselves! If i was e.g. an Iraqi, Libyan, Panamanian ........ I would want to have revenge on the USA!!

    • @LosBerkos
      @LosBerkos 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Colonialistic powers are cancer-like. They actively work to deteriorate any healthy areas around them in order to thrive and reach maximum spread.

  • @pawank90
    @pawank90 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    simple and elaborate...

  • @TheFranksantana
    @TheFranksantana 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great informative videos.

  • @jamesanthony5681
    @jamesanthony5681 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What lessons have we learned? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! We live in the United States of Amnesia.
    Robert Kennedy championed the Bay of Pigs operation, organized the operation WITHOUT getting the US military involved in the upfront planning and logistics, and then sold his brother and the cabinet on the efficacy of the invasion. The BOP was a plan that had been on the books of the CIA prior to JFK's presidency that Dwight Eisenhower wisely avoided because (1) he was a military man who understood logistics, planning and warfare; and (2) he knew a landing brigade of 1,500 could not overthrow Castro.

  • @deltaduke1157
    @deltaduke1157 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Cuba is a happy place poor but happy

    • @moonbeam1982
      @moonbeam1982 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Healthy educated people with a vibrant culture in a safe gun ,drug .racist free low crime environment .No millionaires and no homeless people sleeping in doorways like other nearby nations . Poverty stricken Island nation of HAITI with its economy and politics under the control of US ruling classes for a century . Predatory US corporations protected by CIA armed and trained Papa Doc type killers have ruled for many decades and the people still practice voodooism .Lucky Cuba .

    • @BPAIZZY
      @BPAIZZY 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, and the people of Cuba flee the country to the US, daily. Can't be that great.

    • @cubanamerican22
      @cubanamerican22 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      moon beam No Millionaires? No homeles people in Cuba? Hahahahah you dont know what Cuba is. The Castros are the millionaires in cuba along with a lot of leaders of the Cuban Communist Party, and yes there are A LOT of homeless people in Cuba, the difference is that you cant compare the quantity with the USA because in cuba there are barely 12millon of habitants, in the USA there are 320million, do the math. And yes theres no control of the USA goverment, the control is from the Bloody and Corrupt Communist goverment. For more then half a century Cubans had to suffer hunger or exile. YOU DONT KNOW WHAT CUBA IS, if you want to know go and live there with $15 per month (average salary).

    • @20035079
      @20035079 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BPAIZZY nice statistics dumbass

  • @mrporkman100
    @mrporkman100 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The population did not revolt...cuz 200 000 civilians were arrested..to prevent the support of cuban liberators..i was there and my uncle was arrested..my father did not because he supported fidel (in appearance) i am glad he did.
    It failed due to the fact that 1500 men can not defeat 120 000 ...simple....

  • @realalphee
    @realalphee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    why no blinking!?!?

  • @darksid007
    @darksid007 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    don't mess with workers in arm defending their revolution.

  • @baddersbee6253
    @baddersbee6253 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great help, thanks

  • @tintanmaster
    @tintanmaster 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the bald Zach Galifianakis

  • @krebs9505
    @krebs9505 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now I know where Brian Mills got his "skills acquire from *his very long career"

  • @gabrielmcollazo6675
    @gabrielmcollazo6675 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What must be learned??? Don't let passion lead ya on to your grave! Survive and reap the fruits of your efforts! Nobody cares except the oppressed ! That's good medicine as native americans would have it! LONG LIVE WISDOM! EVER GENERATING POWER!

  • @nancylafuente1003
    @nancylafuente1003 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a tragedy, that fiasco turned out to be!

  • @nine2yodome187
    @nine2yodome187 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    lesson learned: The US empire can be destroyed if the oppressed people stick together

    • @gabrielmcollazo6675
      @gabrielmcollazo6675 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey! are you kidding ??RIGHT?? What are you doing here then???

  • @LBNLDC1
    @LBNLDC1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Of all the video essays on the Bay of Pigs invasion I have seen on TH-cam this is easily the best. Fair and balanced. The youngest president in US history was persuaded by the oldest outgoing president in history to green light a plan to remove the communist dictator from a country only 90 miles off the US coast. According to JFK he repeatedly made it clear to the plan's proponents that direct US military support was not part of the agreement. The CIA director assured JFK that such support would not be necessary because all of the intelligence they had gathered practically guaranteed that the Cuban people would rise up to join the invading exile forces in toppling Castro. Former CIA analyst Ray McGovern described the Bay of Pigs plan as a mousetrap. The invasion was designed to fail without significant US military support and put the new president in the impossible position of choosing between committing an act of war, an undeclared war with a neighboring country or letting the men who were pinned down on the beach at the Bay of Pigs be killed or captured by the superior forces of Fidel Castro. The sense of betrayal felt by those Cuban exiles on the beach cannot be overstated.
    Once the invasion failed Kennedy realized he had been set up by a group of the most cynical old men in the history of US federal government. In an address to the nation he took the blame for the BoP fiasco. He also fired the top three officials of the CIA who lied to him repeatedly about the plan's chances of success. I doubt JFK ever asked Eisenhower for any more advice either. Eisenhower was the Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces in Europe during WWII. With his background in the planning of the Normandy invasion he had to know the BoP invasion plan was built on the shakiest of assumptions which is probably why he kicked the can down the road. Castro was in power for the last two years of Eisenhower's presidency. Why didn't Ike simply invade Cuba on some pretext or none at all? He apparently lacked the courage of his convictions.

  • @gabrielmcollazo6675
    @gabrielmcollazo6675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We the willing led by the unknowning have done the impossible for the ungrateful for so long that now we are qualified to do anything with nothing and still ask for seconds without hesitation and keep coming back for more as god is our witness! LONG LIVE THE BRAVE MEN OF THE 2506 BRIGADE ! GOD IS OUR Commander in CHIEF!With profound respect GMCollazo/2nd Asslt.Grp/B2506/83-97.

    • @leonardoflorentin
      @leonardoflorentin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What were the objectives though, the only think they managed to other than died, was to secure Castro's revolution, kind of what those poor bastards did no so long ago in venezuela. What a non sense.

    • @gabrielmcollazo6675
      @gabrielmcollazo6675 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leonardoflorentin Consider the time and the intrigue of that era! Cold war,many things going on at the same time! almost all world leaders had nuclear power after WWII! CIA was notorious and linked to the mafia since WWII during the Sicily theater with help from Lucky Luciano in exchange for favors and also hands on casinos in CUBA during Batista! Capish Paisan??

    • @leonardoflorentin
      @leonardoflorentin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gabrielmcollazo6675 so in other words you are saying that the brigade 2506 was working for the mafia?? I gotta say, you people managed to do a very good prestigious campaign for Castro.

    • @gabrielmcollazo6675
      @gabrielmcollazo6675 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leonardoflorentin CIA had the mafia working with it ;same as in Sicily; back in WW II ! B2506 was an scapegoat! the Brig was totally blind on the mafia involvement! Look it up! By the way Castro would of been great if he had turned to his own country and not towards the Soviets! He turned to the Soviets to scare the BE Jeezes out of the USA! And he did it !

    • @nancylafuente1003
      @nancylafuente1003 ปีที่แล้ว

      So sorry about this debacle.

  • @ryanlu8054
    @ryanlu8054 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    he doesnt blink its scary

  • @gabrielmcollazo6675
    @gabrielmcollazo6675 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its been said ;many a times ; that in passing ,one can or does choose his own course. Many men have done so. UNCOMMON VALOR hanged over their noble brow .Greed was far from their hearts! Now they rest and we grief their void but by their actions we celebrate their lives and we ;as witness ; bare their memorial.......... LONG LIVE THE MEN of the 2..5..0..6 Brigade! With profound respect GMCollazo/2nd GRP/B2506/83-97. They might of failed but but they went and stayed their Course! Never said NO! They chewed their fears away!...

  • @theopot5798
    @theopot5798 10 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Why can't you just leave the cubans alone... Go bother someone else..

    • @theopot5798
      @theopot5798 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      no Alcataz is Island prison..

    • @bigmoe7635
      @bigmoe7635 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      .....

    • @BPAIZZY
      @BPAIZZY 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then the Cubans need to stop coming here to America. They ALL need to stay!

    • @Dr.MantisTobogganMD
      @Dr.MantisTobogganMD 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fuck Cuba, Florida’s Mexico; this is also from the fucking 50s and 60s no one gives a shit anymore.

    • @TheRichardSpearman
      @TheRichardSpearman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They did; Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, Panama, Grenada etc

  • @ooohdavey
    @ooohdavey ปีที่แล้ว

    What should we have learned? When you have a presidential candidate who gives away the plan on national television in order to win an election, you don't elect him, you send him to prison

  • @palhein-reim7430
    @palhein-reim7430 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It all boils down to will!

  • @MrL702
    @MrL702 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    We are the more educated minority that will not die out as quick as the others.

  • @surfinstylenumber1
    @surfinstylenumber1 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    He bearly blinks... Wtf

  • @garrettrose2748
    @garrettrose2748 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    my grandfather fought in the bay of pigs

    • @garrettrose2748
      @garrettrose2748 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Child Protector you cant he died of cancer because of chemical warfare in the bay of pigs

    • @garrettrose2748
      @garrettrose2748 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      do you not believe that my grandfather fought for our country

    • @moonbeam1982
      @moonbeam1982 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Among those who the CIA trained to invade Cuban territory were very foolish ,in that they believed their own propaganda IE "Cubans will be glad to be free from the "commies " etc . The mercenaries had taken along their own CIA trained death squad that at been active in several other Latin nations .helping to keep the US proxies in power ;;Somoza ,Noriega Pinochet and other monsters installed by Washington ..Many of them ended up floating in the aptly named Bay of Pigs and Cubans like the people of Vietnam won their national independence . Then the US war criminals who deserve to be hanged on the old Munich gallows descended on once prosperous Middle east nations ,turning them into hellholes , They along with Saudi head choppers are using al Nusra terrorist to do the same to secular Syria what they did to Libya ,turn it over to terror groups .

  • @ElectricMayoGaming
    @ElectricMayoGaming 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man Sebastian is one angry kid

  • @squishyroo
    @squishyroo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    this dude is rob Corddry with a beard

  • @dreamachi7624
    @dreamachi7624 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    whos freedom is it? the freedom that USA always utters whenever it starts middling in other governments and peoples businesses

  • @albunndie
    @albunndie 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    ron paul

  • @angeloquintero6252
    @angeloquintero6252 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kennedy was a traitor. Those Cubans were lied to and abandoned to die and failed because they did not get the military support they were promised by JFK. These men were brave patriots both Cuban and American. Many went on til their death fighting communism wherever it popped up. They were trained by American military personnel and the CIA. Their training was superior to that of the cuban army. My father was in the Cuban army years later. He said the trading was a joke. Military is a must for Cuban men. These men make me proud to be Cuban American. Read up on the Bay of Pigs story and the extraordinary men who gave all for their country.

  • @diamondamongrocks
    @diamondamongrocks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just checking in. Its 2020 and under the trump administration we have Venezuela.

    • @stevenkelly2477
      @stevenkelly2477 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Classy Lady who is we?

    • @diamondamongrocks
      @diamondamongrocks 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Steven Kelly America...as explained by saying “the trump administration”...maybe you missed that part...

  • @alexbidge
    @alexbidge 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you forgot to say that they used napalm and bombs 2 days before the actual attack and killed civilians the video is good ...i'm from there

    • @outspolsis
      @outspolsis 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +alevedado they attacked an airstrip and destroyed like 3 planes and killed like 7 civilians

    • @alexbidge
      @alexbidge 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +outspolsis what?

    • @alexbidge
      @alexbidge 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +outspolsis viva Cuba !!!

    • @outspolsis
      @outspolsis 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ok

  • @JamesBond-uz2dm
    @JamesBond-uz2dm ปีที่แล้ว

    @ 0: 35 does Fidel Castro resemble Canadian PM Justin Trudeau, just asking.

  • @franktriay140
    @franktriay140 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    my dad wrote the Bay of Pigs

  • @rrazul9013
    @rrazul9013 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    In order to avoid the failure, I think Kennedy should utilize the National Reconnaissance Bureau that the US state department has, or the CIA to collect as much intelligence as possible before making the decision of starting the operation. After all, Intelligence is the key to very successful operation. After studying the politics,economy and social lifestyle of Cuba after Castro revolution, only then the US government authorize such an operation that big. It is very unreal that the US would do such an operation without looking into any information upfront.
    The execution of such an operation requires tremendous effort in budgeting, military training, and many other factors. If the operation exposed, you have two choices, directly becoming involved by deploying the Armed Forces, while working on approval by the congress, or shut down the operation and cut the communication. Kennedy took option two, because he realized such an operation might take a long time to succeed, which was hard when you have a cold war with the USSR.

  • @FiqDzeko
    @FiqDzeko 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    DMR CODBOCW

  • @adams8847
    @adams8847 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    plan for failures!!!

  • @chrisstevensjunior
    @chrisstevensjunior 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    they should try this again.. more successful hopefully

  • @quartytypo
    @quartytypo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lesson learned: Don't let Cuba drift closer than 90 miles to the USA.

  • @TheCollector-f4o
    @TheCollector-f4o 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ha Sebastian is so WRONG

  • @davidrivero7943
    @davidrivero7943 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a Child I remember visting one sight after the failed attempt, where corpses laid half buried , one with a knee above the ground . Those brave men invading never had a chance & mostly due to a promise that never happened & never came from Washington. We were hoodwinked on USAF Air Support. Family's here since 1969. I love America, the City of Dallas & Convertible Automobiles.

  • @catsupchutney
    @catsupchutney 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know enough to directly criticize Kennedy, but I wonder why did he change the landing area, why did he proceed when it was obvious that plans were leaked (since secrecy was so important) and would it have been possible to co-opt Fidel's staunch anti US positions over the longer term by encouraging him to slowly return private property, or was that a political non-starter for Kennedy? After all Vietnam now sells to Ikea. Are we that insecure about the utility of a fair free market that also takes into consideration the well being of the poor?

    • @rorymcdonough2330
      @rorymcdonough2330 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Allan Peda obviously under pressure from hawks in the pentagon and public opinion. Probably thought Cuban revolution was weaker

  • @coldg7461
    @coldg7461 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love this war

    • @nono-kr7um
      @nono-kr7um 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @619 575 ah yes, you seem very mature insulting someone over a comment from 5 years ago

    • @gabrielmcollazo6675
      @gabrielmcollazo6675 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      NNNO! Don't you ever love any war. You are feeding the 666 in all men! by saying so!

  • @hebrews11jp
    @hebrews11jp 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Economic Impact human rights presidency election few allies
    common sense media UN decision
    so really sensetive issue
    current common sense directly impact every each steps
    so sanction blacklist effective way to persuade enough for majority, UN is essential before that
    and need to seek peace always also thanks

  • @jamesbatchelor4772
    @jamesbatchelor4772 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That guy has the girliest looking face for a man I've ever seen.

    • @sophiedaoust9864
      @sophiedaoust9864 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't know where you come from, but where I am girls don't look like him LOL

    • @Prosadko22
      @Prosadko22 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      his face is fine

  • @mustafaa1458
    @mustafaa1458 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cuba threatened American security? Lol are these people serious

    • @googleminus1442
      @googleminus1442 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it did. Why do you think the Soviets created some half a dozen puppets nations between them and Europe? They want to put distance. So if war comes, it would not be on Soviet land. US don't want the war in the American continent, because it would be much more damaging to the US mainland. Limiting the amount of missiles than can be deployed against them too.

    • @mustafaa1458
      @mustafaa1458 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@googleminus1442 but the US put missiles in Turkey first and there is not even the slightest chance that an invasion of America can start from a tiny little island. Also the USSR didnt put puppet countries. Those countries were mostly liberated mostly by their own people in antifascist resistence groups, with great help from USSR of course. Many had great disagreements with USSR

    • @googleminus1442
      @googleminus1442 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mustafaa1458 Liberated? Great disagreement with USSR? Oh their people had great disagreements with the USSR all right, and also the puppet governments the soviets installed. Heard of the Hungarian revolt of 56? East german revolt of 53? Czech protests of 68? All movements by the people, students, workers, violently crushed by soviet invasion. These governments were dictatorial in nature, unwanted by the people, installed and propped up by a foreign power to secure its interests there. This is what is called a puppet government. Ever wonder why the warsaw pact fell apart so quickly in 89-91? Without the soviets being able or willing to supress their subjects with armed force, they will seek freedom away from the USSR.
      The missiles in Turkey did threaten Soviet security, as did Cuban missile threaten US security. This is what you do in the cold war, threaten the adversary's security to gain leverage while maintaining your own.

    • @googleminus1442
      @googleminus1442 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @G L.C Which is why I said the US was trying to gain control of governments on the American continent like the Soviets were controlling european ones. Both want to secure their own position through control of puppet states or at least installing friendly regimes. So what is your point, pal? I hope you are not under the illusion there were any objectively good sides in the cold war. Only good for me vs good for you.

    • @googleminus1442
      @googleminus1442 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@G L.C "nor did it liberate them from that rule" Yes, liberate them from that rule, only to claim it for themselves. Just ask the eastern Europeans, who threw off the shackles of communism as soon as it looked the USSR won't invade them for it, if they feel very liberated. Yet I don't think you are the type of person who would agree the US are right to liberate Afghanistan from extremist taliban rule?
      You are trying to make a moral argument where there is none to be made, when the people making the decisions we are discussing are not even the least bit concerned about morality. This is geopolitics. The US has long tried to secure an American continent free from outside powers, it would then be the strongest nation in the continent, largely eliminating threat of foreign military action whether from the east or west, and able to force its will where needed. The USSR with a similar grand strategy to the Russian empire, and indeed to modern day Russia, although all 3 are ideologically different. They expand influence and territory westward to put as much space between them and possible European adversaries. Neither the US nor Russians hesitate to violate a nation's sovereignty or subvert and suppress its people's will if it suits their interests.
      "or would Eastern Europe be better off remaining a death factory complex of Nazi camps in your opinion?" I can answer this question as much as you can answer if it would be better to be shot by a luger or a tokarev. Both would have persecuted me, and eastern Europe would be better with no nazi and no USSR, as is the case today.

  • @dawnfkahamilton-doerfler6982
    @dawnfkahamilton-doerfler6982 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Cuba was not owned by USA. They maybe shouldn’t have had so much control of businesses there. It doesn’t seem right. Let me give you another example. If JFK was elected president
    If USA and it was his job to appoint good leaders over businesses and agriculture in America but he had no
    Say or no control because Chinese came and bought all the important
    Businesses and agriculture., JFK
    Would feel useless and controlled.
    America should stick with places and land they own. And any extra money
    Could be used for dire needs as Charity around the world.

  • @vonGleichenT
    @vonGleichenT 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    To bad it didn't work.

  • @BPAIZZY
    @BPAIZZY 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    All those that love Communist Cuba, can move there or stay there right now. What's the problem? BTW, Cuba can't be that great, thousands want to come here illegally, and do. Their current system sucks!

    • @Qu3mao
      @Qu3mao 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude the only way they can come here is illegally they didnt have a legal way of coming here like they did in the 50s and no communism is a fail system that only takes from you and if you dont agree you are put to death.

    • @BPAIZZY
      @BPAIZZY 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Qu3mao Actually Cubans can receive an Immigrant Visa like people from any other country. Cubans are not banned from entering the U.S. or migrating legally. That was done at the United States Interests Section in Havana which was housed in the Swiss Embassy before the U.S Embassy was established in Havana. And Yes Communism and Socialism only work within tyranny, therefore it does not allow personal freedom.

    • @BPAIZZY
      @BPAIZZY 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @G L.C you are a racist scumbag soyboy, we don't need your kind here in the U.S.! God Bless the U.S.A.

    • @BPAIZZY
      @BPAIZZY 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @G L.C Our cops look cool fighting the good fight, in their riot gear with their armored trucks. Their fighting the communists and socialists that destroy cities. Our cops are what keeps us all safe from rioters and malcontents. Support the Blue.

    • @BPAIZZY
      @BPAIZZY 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @G L.C You wish you could be me. How's your drippy, LMAO!!

  • @aztekriegervalachingonazo6589
    @aztekriegervalachingonazo6589 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    FAKE

  • @franktriay140
    @franktriay140 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    my dad wrote the Bay of Pigs