All that emission shit does to the motor is just building up the carbon build up inside the liners and cylinder heads in the worst case. Longterm perspective emissions are only meant lower the life of an engine.
@@richhomie1971 no that's why I know it's crap I just spent $1158 in parts on a cheap cable running under the dpf that went out and was causing a derate That's parts alone! I installed it myself because the dealer said they'd take 2-5 days to even see me so I did it in a few hours by watching one of Ryan's videos It's a complete scam.
Who is taking there trucks to Freightliner or any dealer in 2022 I hope nobody straight rip off the Mexicans do a better job working on your truck than the people at the dealership and the prices are better.
I'm seeing a lot of the new trucks having to be overhauled with 400,000 miles that's insane I'm a CAT man myself and my E model is a million mile trucks I just prefer the older motors.
That's because these companies like Swift absolutely refuse to put an APU on the truck and they idle every night, so they rack up hours. Every new semi with a diesel engine should be mandated to be sold with a diesel or diesel/electric APU at no additional cost, until then the emissions bullshit is a scam and meant to gut trucking
I prefer the DD15, they seem like great engines, I've driven multiple units with over 500,000 miles and they pull strong still. The highest mileage one, ~660,000, ended up shitting the bed with the high pressure fuel pump sending metal all throughout the system, but beyond that they are fucking great. I am to the point of believing in the DD15 and DD15 where I would outfit a fleet I owned with them
@@Romuls753had the fuel pump happen at 750k. At 950k and still running like a champ. That being said it’s been thoroughly taken care of and I’d be willing to bet it’s one of the lowest hours engine ever with that many hours because it NEVER idles.
I agree. It’s best, for many reasons, to not delete the aftertreatment system. But it is definitely a high maintenance, delicate and sensitive system to keep running smoothly. My trips to the shop are usually for aftertreatment system fault codes (always low NOX conversion) and since many things can cause low NOX conversion, repairs can be very costly. My DD15 engine doesn’t require repairs very often at all, I’m good with it’s maintenance. But that aftertreatment system... is a money pit.
Don't let this guy dissuade you. I have to get emissions tested every other year and it is super clean and passes with flying colors. I've saved thousands of dollars. You can basically save a truck payment every month just by the fuel savings alone. Then add on all the savings of tow bills and repairs due to the pos emissions crap. You can essentially get your truck for free, less repairs and more power. I've run California and all across the country without issue. The downside is you most likely can't take it to a dealer because they can lose their license if they work on it. There are good mechanics out there that can work on it and will be less expensive anyway. Personally I don't think isx is a very reliable engine overall. Their heads are crap, otherwise I've got over a million miles with only 1 factory issue but going on my 3rd head because they are junk. Lastly, nobody can make us move to different trucks. Older non emissions vehicles will always be around...semis, heavy equipment, cars, trucks, etc. They can't force anyone to get an "eco friendly" vehicle that would make most people have to start walking, not ever going to happen. The only thing they can do is make changes to new vehicles but the world is too far gone and nothing is going to help change that.
You are either incredibly lucky and would be better off buying lottery tickets, or a liar. What Ryan is saying is the truth. I agree that the non-emissions engine is far better, but running a deleted engine is playing with fire. As for running old non-emission engines, that's OK but, eventually, the parts supply will dry up or at least be difficult to deal with.
My 2013 paccar pete has been deleted and tuned for 2 years not 1 issue from anything or anyone. She runs like a champ. Anyone that would rather spend thousands on fixing the dpf egr Shit is a nut case. I have been inspected at multiple dot check points no issues. I also get inspections every 4 months with the company Iam leased to. No issues. Go to the right place spend the money to have it done correct. But hey keep spending ur hard earned money on stupid shit. Small dealers buy and sell deleted trucks all the time.
First thing is first, don’t fuck up like I did, don’t buy a new truck if you don’t have to, I purchase a $170000 brand new 389 Peterbilt, first year 4 freaking trips to dealership, all high dollar emissions problems, after year guaranty is gone and you will star to feel the pain, took it to dealership in okc $2000 to replace a quality sensor, so to me is easy to make my mind on a delete, because I already know that if it wasn’t because the truck was under warranty I would be broke,find the right knowledgeable tech for your delete, is just something we can not afford to pay, you truck will be always in the dealership for weeks at the time
I get it; I want to protect the environment but how the hell u gonna have trucks that don’t burn diesel? It’s has to be a way make these systems better for these trucks. The DPF system is NOT set up for the small owners like us. These big companies run these trucks until the warranties run out, then trade em for new ones. Then knuckleheads like us buy the traded trucks from shady dealerships that don’t provide warranties and don’t do the requisite maintenance on the DEF system. The DEF alone can put a single truck operation out of business, even if u spend thousands keeping up the maintenance.
Thanks Ryan. I have a 2015 Peterbilt 579 Paccar engine and I was seriously considering doing a dpf delete on my truck. Great video. Definitely just going to keep dealing with the issues and perhaps getting a newer truck instead.
Good video. Everything you said is true. The actual truth about removing the system: The number one thing about doing this is nobody has the correct fuel map to run the newer engines without emissions controls. The actual problem with that is, you end up running the engine in a fuel rich condition. The repercussions of doing that are burnt pistons ie hot spots in the crown of the piston, blown head gaskets, over heated cylinder head with burned valves,, over heated turbos, the list is long and it all pertains to hotter combustion chamber Temps. I have heard of people running the " fire engine " fuel maps and codes with mixed results. The egr systems premise is to introduce inert Gas ( unburned exhaust) back in to the intake to COOL combustion Temps. Hence the problem when you remove the components and end up with the aforementioned problems. Also, the carbon packing issues with Cummins engines are due to lack of maintenance of the delta p sensor. In fact a bad delta p sensor will leave the egr stuck wide open to intake all the time. This is why it is extremely important to keep it clean and functioning properly. I have a personal theory on that issue specific to Cummins. It has to do with the placement of the delta p itself. For starters it sits right on the exhaust manifold, pretty hostile place for a delta p to live. To explain it a little better, dd series engines don't have as many problems with carbon packing. They have the delta p sensor after the venturi on the hot pipe, and it sits right in front on the engine where its constantly cooled by the fans air path. My conclusion is that because of that, it responds quicker, closing it quicker, and keeping the carbon out of the intake. Again, if you have a unmaintaned delta p you'll still get carbon packing. A bad charge air cooler will have the same detriment, over fueling. Nutshell, I agree with just leaving it be. Learn the system and maintain it, you'll get more life out of it. Hate emissions, run an older pre egr engine, forget California. Hope this helps.
Hey Ryan, I watched your DPE/EGR videos. You did a very good job explaining how the DPE functions. I learned a lot and enjoyed watching. The information was excellent and very clear to understand. You have helped many drivers to become more engaged with their profession and equipment. Thanks!
@@truckingandfixing Ryan i am new in your channel trying to watch all your videos all day long, i'm the process to buy a truck but has 750.000 on it, how many time they supposed to clean the DPF or EGR sistem? i can see it with the ECM reader??
Just found and subbed to your channel. I’m in 100% agreement with your assessment on the current EPA status with deleting. I was thinking about deleting my DD15 until this administration as well. But now I’m looking at trading my truck in for a new KW anyway, but I’m learning as much as I can about maintaining their DPF systems. I hate the one on my Cascadia. Seems every week I have a new MIL light on and the only way to “fix” it is to do a forced regen. Damn techs don’t even know how to fix these things properly. They just throw parts and hope it’s fixed. At least on this truck.
@TheVenom8343 where did you get this done? I have a DD15 and sooo desperately want the emissions system done with! It's f*kn stupid and tears your engine up!
Well if they want us to abide to their law, then they should develop a system that works I feel like nothing the government does benefits regular people
Educate yourself, myself and others have and are able to keep our trucks on the road with few if any issues. Right now I am reparing a big tuner shop crap delete, see my post above. The bill with parts and labor will be roughly $15,000 when I am finished with the repairs. I am not a mechanic, I am a truck driver, that was tired of getting ripped off by dealers and shady mechanics. I even in framed my ISX when the Cummins shop botched the first one. You want to survive out here, you need to know your equipment and how it all works, and not be afraid to grab a wrench.
I heard all positive things about deleting the DEF system. Saving money by nor paying for DEF, more engine power, better fuel mileage, longer lasting engine, and less maintenance but when you talked about all the fines and possibly getting the truck impounded 😬🤯 but I'm still debating. Thanks man, stay safe and have a good one.
Did a full delete about 4 years ago on my 389, and I have not had any issues at all. I'm also out of NY so that alone says a ton. Deleted my 22 ram as well, no regrets.
Best thing I've ever done is have my dpf deleted. No more emissions issues. Oil consumption is less than a gallon in 10,000 miles on a 1.2 million mile engine. I had my ISX15 deleted at 580,000 miles- still running at 1.2 million. I'm not going to run scared of the government. If they want to fine me for fixing my truck, they can have it. I'll go do something else.
@@richhomie1971besides having the front cover replaced because of the common oil leak of Cummins ISX, only thing I've had to do is maintain the engine since the delete. No more trouble codes and great pulling power.
@@RussellRobinson971 yeah I think ima delete mine. It’s to much issues, Peterbilt had my truck for 2 months before they finally fixed it for a Def pressure code, first week out broke down for dpf filter code
Hi Russ. My truck is deleted also, but I lack power on hills and I think maybe the person who did the deletion did it incorrectly. Can you send me somewhere to look at it?
I only recently ran into my first DPF problem. Even that was a minor wiring issue, the shop fixed it for free. I prefer to get used to the system, learn about, fix it myself, and press on. It's not going away, best to learn about it.
My 2010 isx was deleted 2 years ago bc of never ending problems. Not one issue w anything since and the oil stays clean a lot longer no more soot. Its a gamble but it also saved me untold thousands in repairs ,downtime and fuel. Oil and engine temps stay a lot lower too. U know what they say about opinions 😆 but this is facts
Great info, definitely very in depth and knowledgeable Can you make a video on future plans, would you ever start a fleet or anything? Or would you start in the truck as a one man operation Would be interesting to see your views
I've spent over $10,000 trying to fix my DPF system and no one can figure it out I have thought about drilling it out but with my luck I'd be the one who got caught and paid that fine LOL much appreciated your knowledge has excellent thank you for the videos stay safe and God bless
That's cheap Ten thousand dollars just wait till you get to twenty five thousands and on to thirty five thousands. These Obama trucks will bring you to your knees.
I fix I won't delete cause I can loose my business if I delete anyone that comes in the shop so if is too expensive I'm sorry take it somewhere else I don't need legal issues it is already hard enough as it is 😮
I came across the other day this Trucking company that pays crazy money but requires 2018 and up Trucks. They also require security clearance. I will inbox you
If their going to put that crap on the tractors they need to build a reliable system that works or keep them out of trucks until they find can build a reliable system
Well said. This is exactly why I don't delete mine. It's here to stay. Enforcement is only going to get heavier. Might as well learn to deal with this stuff. I don't even trust them not to come out with a mandate to get old trucks off the roads.
CARB doesn't setup and check emissions and CAL DOT doesn't care. I'm not so sure about fixed checkpoints at scales etc. Enforcement seems nonexistent as of September 2021, even in California.
Thanks I just went to the shop yesterday and the mechanic was talking about it. He was suggesting to delete the system but I told him no cos I ain’t got the money. But watching this vid and ur insight n opinion am not. Cos every video is not for everybody but it’s for everybody. Some people are sent by God to watch and some come here to tear u down. Am glad I watched. Hopefully I made a good choice. Thank u and may Yeshua give more insight and knowledge to spread it to people who are specifically here to listen to u .
Had the opportunity to delete my system last week but if i did it would void my engines warranty and nobody could work on it and i was sure what you said would happen too wirh this new joke of an administration
Shops are filling up with trucks getting fined for deleting and forced to put the DFF system back on within a month. Sucks, hopefully new administration gets rid of it.
Don't buy a Volvo. Truck has been in the shop going on 3 weeks out here in Albuquerque New Mexico. HELLO Haven't seen anyone at these dealership knows JACK. Estimated calls $10307.00 and that's if they like you. MEDICINEMAN SAID F/O . To EPA and sorry ass LaLa land.
Make sure it can do a complete Regen in the parking lot. I would also have them pull all of the codes, you are looking for high heat events and the health of the emission system, the DOC/DPF and SCR filters. Odds are, the cans will be the originals, so figure replacing those into the price of the truck. You only want to purchase OEM filters, no aftermarket, as they typically do not last that long compared to the OEM branded filters. Others will call me on that, it is your money, spend it wisely.
@@arnaldogonzalez4567 If you can, see if you can get under the valve cover to visually inspect the cam(s). You are looking for pitting and or scoring on both the cam(s) and rollers. If there is visual damage, that can be a healthy repair dollar wise. I would also invest $50 in an Engine Block Test Kit. They are easy to use, and can tell you if you have a bad head or other issues allowing combustion gas into the cooling system. Some folks will at least allow this test, if they don't, I would walk away from that particular truck. And that is the problem, if you really do not know what to look for, you are really pissing in the wind. Personally, I stick with Cummins, as I know them very well, and the software and diagnostic tools are readily available. I also find the motors easier to work on as Cummins supplies you every thing you need to know in regards to their motors for free with their Cummins Quickserve on the internet. I in framed my CM-871 motor with my phone and a bag of tools, along with the help of my good friend that had the tools to properly cut the ledges in the block. I am currently fixing a very bad delete on one of these motors right now for a friend of mine.
I can usually tell when a 2010 or newer truck has been deleted by the sound of the exhaust note. Trucks with properly operating DPF/SCR systems do not have mufflers and are very quiet. The 2010 and newer trucks with loud exhaust that'll blow your eardrums out are the ones that have had the DPF systems removed. The DPF filter assemblies on today's trucks replaced the exhaust mufflers of older trucks like my IHC 9400i with its original factory installed Detroit Diesel 12.7L non-egr. Guys performing deletes to their trucks don't realize the change in the exhaust note is a dead give-away and a red flag for inspectors. My engine is still factory spec and rebuilt top to bottom and I'll continue running my same truck until the EPA says I can't. When that day arrives, I'll buy a Mack Pinnacle/Anthem.
You wouldn't be able to tell my truck has been deleted😉 My truck is no different than it was new besides power and fuel economy. Some people just know how to do it properly I suppose. I get emissions tested every 2 yrs and it runs super clean as well. Just as clean as stock.
@@johncalvo1743 I got it done 8 yrs ago from a place near Chicago. I believe at that time it was around $1800 for the tuning and a little kit. I had to pull the filters and opted to drill a bunch of holes through the filter material rather than gut them completely out. I then had to have them welded back together.. I went this route just in case, so the stock system could hopefully still be reused if I ever decided to go back. Still have full flow without the risk of filters getting clogged. I'm not sure what people charge currently. At one point I had a check engine light come on even though that system shouldn't be active. Had to have a program reinstalled but that was only $1000 in the Denver area. I believe that was about 3 yrs ago (pre pandemic).
@@INFRNL1 Thank you. My truck has the EGR/DPF "fixed" also. But I lack power on hills. I was wondering if you had insight on this or maybe you knew someone. I don't trust just anyone with my truck.
I'm lost on the EGR my EGR intercooler is leaking it needs to be replaced I just bought the truck my question is can I block the EGR coolant ports and leave the exhaust open is mandatory to delete it ? Thanks
As far as your advice to avoid high drain intervals, ive recently switched to Amsoil full synthetic and am doing 20K oil changes. I am taking oil samples with every oil change as well. Would something in the oil report indicate high levels of exhaust contaminate? Do you think it would be better to go back to my cheaper Mobile 1 Delvac and just do 10-12K miles oil changes?
You could very well be damaging your motor at those change intervals. All of that soot accumulates in the oil, and wears on the internals. You can install a bypass filter, Amsoil makes a universal filter bypass kit. You run that in tandem with your factory oil filter and change out every say four or five months or so. And you can use any filter you want, as long as it fits, you are good.
Hey Ryan, I just got my truck 2 months ago, it’s 2019 kenworth t680 w Paccar engine, i have not yet experienced a regen on this truck, does this make do automatic regens? I am not able to do a regeneration yet, is that normal? Could it be that this truck went through a delete?
I have been owner operator for only 2.5 months and I purchased a 2017 freightliner Cascadia. I'm now having a dpf filter issue. Engine at full derate 100%. This problem has set me back like 4 days, im sitting at a truck shop in nebraska. I was going to delete my dpf, egr valve and dpf filter. I guess I won't do it now. How can I not have this issue in the future?
DERATED MY TRUCK TO EURO 3 IN 2019 BY MAPPING ECU & EGR & DPF REMOVAL( GOT IT FROM OFFICIAL TRUCK DEALER INDONESIA🙂)....SINCE THEN...FUEL ECONOMY AND CLEANER ENGINE OIL😉....AIR INTAKE LOT CLEANER!
Nice Info.. I agree Dpf is so overrated. But going back is not an option. You get pulled over in any state they can inspect if you have a Def delete and you can get fined on the spot maybe towed in California.
i have a problem with the DEF tank sensor. what do i have to do after replacing it to get red of codes and get engine out of limp mode? please and thank you
It’s not about speed. It’s about rpm. If you can keep the engine idling above 1300 rpm for long periods of time then your system will accumulate the least amount of soot cause it moves out. With that kind of driving all you’ll have to do is clean out sensors that’ll have soot boogers built in them like iMap sensor. Egr and delta sensor you get the picture. The idea here is to prolong the life of the actual after treatment system so it can do its job the way its indented. Keeping these engines soot clean takes time and money but it has to be done if you don’t want emission problems. Another thing people overlook a lot is oil. Change your oil ALOT more frequently. If soot isn’t coming out of your pipe it’s going into two places, your oil, and ALL the crevices of your engine. An oil that’s filled with ash won’t lubricate. So you’ll start having engine related problems. Maintenance is truly key with these modern engines. They cost more to run reliably but this is what we’re forced to learn and keep up with in order to stay in business.
It seems a lot of used trucks that have been governed at 63MPH or less or for city use, have a lot of emisson problems. in my opinion, the trucks have been ran a little harder to keep the system hot, seems to keep system clearner, just a theory.
The only way to stay on top of emission system is to get rid of it, period!
Buy a 2004 or older tractor
When the EGR is blocked off, does that make the cylinders get too hot?
No, it wouldn’t. Because it won’t go through the cylinder any more.
All that emission shit does to the motor is just building up the carbon build up inside the liners and cylinder heads in the worst case. Longterm perspective emissions are only meant lower the life of an engine.
I say abolish the EPA.
If they succeed with their emissions agenda there will be no more owner operators in trucking.
Pretty scarey
Well there won't be any owner ops with older trucks at least they'll have to buy new.
@@johnaberle5955 the new trucks are crap and dpf system causes breakdowns all the time
@@certified_boogeyman you got a delete on your truck?
@@richhomie1971 no that's why I know it's crap
I just spent $1158 in parts on a cheap cable running under the dpf that went out and was causing a derate
That's parts alone!
I installed it myself because the dealer said they'd take 2-5 days to even see me so I did it in a few hours by watching one of Ryan's videos
It's a complete scam.
I can’t afford def maintenance anymore
Who is taking there trucks to Freightliner or any dealer in 2022 I hope nobody straight rip off the Mexicans do a better job working on your truck than the people at the dealership and the prices are better.
I'm seeing a lot of the new trucks having to be overhauled with 400,000 miles that's insane I'm a CAT man myself and my E model is a million mile trucks I just prefer the older motors.
That's because these companies like Swift absolutely refuse to put an APU on the truck and they idle every night, so they rack up hours. Every new semi with a diesel engine should be mandated to be sold with a diesel or diesel/electric APU at no additional cost, until then the emissions bullshit is a scam and meant to gut trucking
I prefer the DD15, they seem like great engines, I've driven multiple units with over 500,000 miles and they pull strong still. The highest mileage one, ~660,000, ended up shitting the bed with the high pressure fuel pump sending metal all throughout the system, but beyond that they are fucking great. I am to the point of believing in the DD15 and DD15 where I would outfit a fleet I owned with them
@@Romuls753had the fuel pump happen at 750k. At 950k and still running like a champ. That being said it’s been thoroughly taken care of and I’d be willing to bet it’s one of the lowest hours engine ever with that many hours because it NEVER idles.
I agree. It’s best, for many reasons, to not delete the aftertreatment system. But it is definitely a high maintenance, delicate and sensitive system to keep running smoothly. My trips to the shop are usually for aftertreatment system fault codes (always low NOX conversion) and since many things can cause low NOX conversion, repairs can be very costly. My DD15 engine doesn’t require repairs very often at all, I’m good with it’s maintenance. But that aftertreatment system... is a money pit.
Well said!
@@TheVenom8343 what states do u avoid and are u otr?
Don't let this guy dissuade you.
I have to get emissions tested every other year and it is super clean and passes with flying colors.
I've saved thousands of dollars. You can basically save a truck payment every month just by the fuel savings alone. Then add on all the savings of tow bills and repairs due to the pos emissions crap.
You can essentially get your truck for free, less repairs and more power.
I've run California and all across the country without issue.
The downside is you most likely can't take it to a dealer because they can lose their license if they work on it. There are good mechanics out there that can work on it and will be less expensive anyway.
Personally I don't think isx is a very reliable engine overall. Their heads are crap, otherwise I've got over a million miles with only 1 factory issue but going on my 3rd head because they are junk.
Lastly, nobody can make us move to different trucks. Older non emissions vehicles will always be around...semis, heavy equipment, cars, trucks, etc. They can't force anyone to get an "eco friendly" vehicle that would make most people have to start walking, not ever going to happen.
The only thing they can do is make changes to new vehicles but the world is too far gone and nothing is going to help change that.
You are either incredibly lucky and would be better off buying lottery tickets, or a liar.
What Ryan is saying is the truth.
I agree that the non-emissions engine is far better, but running a deleted engine is playing with fire.
As for running old non-emission engines, that's OK but, eventually, the parts supply will dry up or at least be difficult to deal with.
But when your 1box goes have fun paying $10 ,000 to get it replaced and it will go.
My 2013 paccar pete has been deleted and tuned for 2 years not 1 issue from anything or anyone. She runs like a champ. Anyone that would rather spend thousands on fixing the dpf egr Shit is a nut case. I have been inspected at multiple dot check points no issues. I also get inspections every 4 months with the company Iam leased to. No issues. Go to the right place spend the money to have it done correct. But hey keep spending ur hard earned money on stupid shit. Small dealers buy and sell deleted trucks all the time.
Where did you go? Hmu?
Info?
Sure do, I have a 780 2015 that’s DEF deleted, but thinking about doing a EGR tune before deleting
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Where did u get it done?
Wow ryan, you are pretty knowledgeable dude about this stuff man. I just learned a lot 👍🚛
Glad to hear it! thanks
Abolish the EPA. And ATF while we are at it.
First thing is first, don’t fuck up like I did, don’t buy a new truck if you don’t have to, I purchase a $170000 brand new 389 Peterbilt, first year 4 freaking trips to dealership, all high dollar emissions problems, after year guaranty is gone and you will star to feel the pain, took it to dealership in okc $2000 to replace a quality sensor, so to me is easy to make my mind on a delete, because I already know that if it wasn’t because the truck was under warranty I would be broke,find the right knowledgeable tech for your delete, is just something we can not afford to pay, you truck will be always in the dealership for weeks at the time
Thanks for sharing your experience
Are you still
Happy with ur delete?
I get it; I want to protect the environment but how the hell u gonna have trucks that don’t burn diesel? It’s has to be a way make these systems better for these trucks. The DPF system is NOT set up for the small owners like us. These big companies run these trucks until the warranties run out, then trade em for new ones. Then knuckleheads like us buy the traded trucks from shady dealerships that don’t provide warranties and don’t do the requisite maintenance on the DEF system. The DEF alone can put a single truck operation out of business, even if u spend thousands keeping up the maintenance.
Buy the software. Throughout the history of trucking the small guy who can work on his truck almost ALMOST wins.
That system is a scam. Unfortunately they're making so much money off of poor folks they can't stop themselves.
Thanks Ryan. I have a 2015 Peterbilt 579 Paccar engine and I was seriously considering doing a dpf delete on my truck. Great video. Definitely just going to keep dealing with the issues and perhaps getting a newer truck instead.
YOU WILL BE OUT OF BUSSINESS SOON....
THATS IF YOU KEEP FIXING THE SYSTEM THAT JUNK IS GARBAGE..GOOD LUCK...
If you like having an unreliable pos thats always in the shop. Yes then keep your emissions jalopy
No one should haul to states the do emissions tests!.
Good video. Everything you said is true.
The actual truth about removing the system:
The number one thing about doing this is nobody has the correct fuel map to run the newer engines without emissions controls. The actual problem with that is, you end up running the engine in a fuel rich condition. The repercussions of doing that are burnt pistons ie hot spots in the crown of the piston, blown head gaskets, over heated cylinder head with burned valves,, over heated turbos, the list is long and it all pertains to hotter combustion chamber Temps. I have heard of people running the " fire engine " fuel maps and codes with mixed results.
The egr systems premise is to introduce inert Gas ( unburned exhaust) back in to the intake to COOL combustion Temps. Hence the problem when you remove the components and end up with the aforementioned problems.
Also, the carbon packing issues with Cummins engines are due to lack of maintenance of the delta p sensor. In fact a bad delta p sensor will leave the egr stuck wide open to intake all the time. This is why it is extremely important to keep it clean and functioning properly.
I have a personal theory on that issue specific to Cummins. It has to do with the placement of the delta p itself. For starters it sits right on the exhaust manifold, pretty hostile place for a delta p to live. To explain it a little better, dd series engines don't have as many problems with carbon packing. They have the delta p sensor after the venturi on the hot pipe, and it sits right in front on the engine where its constantly cooled by the fans air path. My conclusion is that because of that, it responds quicker, closing it quicker, and keeping the carbon out of the intake. Again, if you have a unmaintaned delta p you'll still get carbon packing. A bad charge air cooler will have the same detriment, over fueling.
Nutshell, I agree with just leaving it be. Learn the system and maintain it, you'll get more life out of it.
Hate emissions, run an older pre egr engine, forget California.
Hope this helps.
Did you mean the Detroit DD 15 or 16?
Good stuff man . Good advice indeed.
Hey Ryan, I watched your DPE/EGR videos. You did a very good job explaining how the DPE functions. I learned a lot and enjoyed watching. The information was excellent and very clear to understand. You have helped many drivers to become more engaged with their profession and equipment. Thanks!
thanks Claude
@@truckingandfixing Ryan i am new in your channel trying to watch all your videos all day long, i'm the process to buy a truck but has 750.000 on it, how many time they supposed to clean the DPF or EGR sistem? i can see it with the ECM reader??
Just found and subbed to your channel. I’m in 100% agreement with your assessment on the current EPA status with deleting. I was thinking about deleting my DD15 until this administration as well. But now I’m looking at trading my truck in for a new KW anyway, but I’m learning as much as I can about maintaining their DPF systems. I hate the one on my Cascadia. Seems every week I have a new MIL light on and the only way to “fix” it is to do a forced regen. Damn techs don’t even know how to fix these things properly. They just throw parts and hope it’s fixed. At least on this truck.
Deleted DD13 here. Fucking amazing!!
@TheVenom8343 where did you get this done? I have a DD15 and sooo desperately want the emissions system done with! It's f*kn stupid and tears your engine up!
Well if they want us to abide to their law, then they should develop a system that works I feel like nothing the government does benefits regular people
Trucking dealership have no problem with it because they are making a killing in parts and labor
Educate yourself, myself and others have and are able to keep our trucks on the road with few if any issues. Right now I am reparing a big tuner shop crap delete, see my post above. The bill with parts and labor will be roughly $15,000 when I am finished with the repairs. I am not a mechanic, I am a truck driver, that was tired of getting ripped off by dealers and shady mechanics. I even in framed my ISX when the Cummins shop botched the first one. You want to survive out here, you need to know your equipment and how it all works, and not be afraid to grab a wrench.
My friend has 3 trucks without it they all have more than 1 million miles. Never had a problem again.
I heard all positive things about deleting the DEF system. Saving money by nor paying for DEF, more engine power, better fuel mileage, longer lasting engine, and less maintenance but when you talked about all the fines and possibly getting the truck impounded 😬🤯 but I'm still debating. Thanks man, stay safe and have a good one.
I still wouldn't recommend guys to delete the DPF unless you can fix everything yourself.
Racer X is your brother
Did a full delete about 4 years ago on my 389, and I have not had any issues at all. I'm also out of NY so that alone says a ton. Deleted my 22 ram as well, no regrets.
@@It_needs_to_be_said do u do otr or local? What states do u avoid?
If you delete the Cummins they can put a 12.7 detroit turbo their only 800 bucks.
What year Cummins
Best thing I've ever done is have my dpf deleted. No more emissions issues. Oil consumption is less than a gallon in 10,000 miles on a 1.2 million mile engine. I had my ISX15 deleted at 580,000 miles- still running at 1.2 million. I'm not going to run scared of the government. If they want to fine me for fixing my truck, they can have it. I'll go do something else.
I got a ISX15 I’m thinking bout deleting myself I’m already 6/7k in fixing it and first week on road broke down on me!
@@richhomie1971besides having the front cover replaced because of the common oil leak of Cummins ISX, only thing I've had to do is maintain the engine since the delete. No more trouble codes and great pulling power.
@@RussellRobinson971 yeah I think ima delete mine. It’s to much issues, Peterbilt had my truck for 2 months before they finally fixed it for a Def pressure code, first week out broke down for dpf filter code
Hi Russ. My truck is deleted also, but I lack power on hills and I think maybe the person who did the deletion did it incorrectly. Can you send me somewhere to look at it?
hi brother after deleting your def u still using def fluid I deleted mine after 600miles and I had 4 bars now is 3 bars
What would cause the Turbo to burn up, especially when the high back pressure is removed off the engine 🤔
My Brother drives a KW660 with a cummins isx15 with a rebuilt PDI rebuilt to 600hp and gets 8mph deleted loaded@80000
I put that turbo in te garbage 🗑 and install a $700 turbo from Detroit 60 series better MPH an lo electrical problem
Dealership are overrated. I don't mess with Dealerships at all
I only recently ran into my first DPF problem. Even that was a minor wiring issue, the shop fixed it for free. I prefer to get used to the system, learn about, fix it myself, and press on. It's not going away, best to learn about it.
You are absolutely right about it. Learn about it is the best thing to do.
If it's gonna get so stupid I'll just try to buy an electric semi instead of spending thousands in systems that r crap
My 2010 isx was deleted 2 years ago bc of never ending problems. Not one issue w anything since and the oil stays clean a lot longer no more soot. Its a gamble but it also saved me untold thousands in repairs ,downtime and fuel. Oil and engine temps stay a lot lower too. U know what they say about opinions 😆 but this is facts
Still riding good with delete? I have a Cummins ISX pete I’m thinking bout deleting
What states do u avoid and are u Otr or local ? I deleted mine I didn’t know it was illegal asf
Great info, definitely very in depth and knowledgeable
Can you make a video on future plans, would you ever start a fleet or anything? Or would you start in the truck as a one man operation
Would be interesting to see your views
We have more to follow on that soon. Stay tuned. Thanks!
I've spent over $10,000 trying to fix my DPF system and no one can figure it out I have thought about drilling it out but with my luck I'd be the one who got caught and paid that fine LOL much appreciated your knowledge has excellent thank you for the videos stay safe and God bless
Wish you best luck to get the problem fixed. Let me know if you need any help down the road!
@@Braulioaguilar713 What you spent on the def system you could’ve ran a deleted truck and already paid the fines 😂
That's cheap Ten thousand dollars just wait till you get to twenty five thousands and on to thirty five thousands. These Obama trucks will bring you to your knees.
I DELETED MINES AT 394000 NOW I HAVE 1Mil 200 thousand only oil breaks And fuel ...🔥🔥
@@macho1657 my worry is CA those MFERS always seem to get me for something
🤣🤣
In late 2024 most brand name dealer shops in most areas are upwards of 200 dollars an hour labor.
What was the fluid coming out of the differential pressure sensor in the last video?
I fix I won't delete cause I can loose my business if I delete anyone that comes in the shop so if is too expensive I'm sorry take it somewhere else I don't need legal issues it is already hard enough as it is 😮
I came across the other day this Trucking company that pays crazy money but requires 2018 and up Trucks. They also require security clearance. I will inbox you
What is it?
Deleted that trash of my truck best thing I’ve done..
Glad to hear it worked out well for you.
hi brother I deleted min I had full bar after driving 600 miles went down to 3 bars is that ok
If their going to put that crap on the tractors they need to build a reliable system that works or keep them out of trucks until they find can build a reliable system
Agreed!
THANKS FOR THE IN DEPTH DISCUSSION. YOU HELPED ME MAKE UP MY MIND ON THIS. CHEAPER TO LEAVE IT THERE.
Until it isn't!
Well said. This is exactly why I don't delete mine. It's here to stay. Enforcement is only going to get heavier. Might as well learn to deal with this stuff. I don't even trust them not to come out with a mandate to get old trucks off the roads.
Maybe people should stand up to these stupid climate fucks and government bureaucrats. That’s why we are were we are.
Ur a very knowledgeable Man!
Keep up the genuineness and wisdom u putting out in world.
Great Job brotha 👍
Thank you!
Delete all that hope you never have to take it to a dealer they will not touch it until you spend over 15 grand to put it back
No reason to use a dealer when there are mechanics
This is why im in the market for a pre 2007 truck
The pros sound better than the cons
CARB doesn't setup and check emissions and CAL DOT doesn't care.
I'm not so sure about fixed checkpoints at scales etc.
Enforcement seems nonexistent as of September 2021, even in California.
We need to stop working so the government knows who has the power here lets do it
This problem makes me hate trucking. Ten of thousands of dollars in dpf repairs loss of drivers the list goes on.
It is true!
I am thinking about buying a t680 paccar, the def is deleted, what would it cost to restore the emissions system to legal status?
I am not sure, I am guessing $10,000 plus. I would advise to contact a company that provide this kind of service for a quote.
When do you have time to sleep ? Be safe great video
Thanks I just went to the shop yesterday and the mechanic was talking about it. He was suggesting to delete the system but I told him no cos I ain’t got the money. But watching this vid and ur insight n opinion am not. Cos every video is not for everybody but it’s for everybody. Some people are sent by God to watch and some come here to tear u down. Am glad I watched. Hopefully I made a good choice. Thank u and may Yeshua give more insight and knowledge to spread it to people who are specifically here to listen to u .
Had the opportunity to delete my system last week but if i did it would void my engines warranty and nobody could work on it and i was sure what you said would happen too wirh this new joke of an administration
delete will void your engine warranty. No dealer will work on your truck.
These new trucks out here are garbage because of all this emissions crap there putting in the trucks
I would agree!
Hi do you recommend the Cummins 15 motor I’m looking to buy a truck and was curious
Cummins X15 will be great choice. Cummins isx15 is garbage honestly in my opinion
Ur detailed but u double speak a lot..
You forgot to tell them if u get a delete u can not run a tuner on ur truck like PDI big boss tuner like you run...it will mess up ur trucks ECM...
that is correct, because the tuner still thinks you have the emission on it. Typically, the delete comes with the horse power upgrades.
I don’t have place otherwise I will do all truck job. I brought my truck to my drive way. Town ass send me latter to remove your truck from here
Shops are filling up with trucks getting fined for deleting and forced to put the DFF system back on within a month. Sucks, hopefully new administration gets rid of it.
Don't buy a Volvo. Truck has been in the shop going on 3 weeks out here in Albuquerque New Mexico. HELLO Haven't seen anyone at these dealership knows
JACK. Estimated calls $10307.00 and that's if they like you. MEDICINEMAN SAID
F/O . To EPA and sorry ass LaLa land.
I’m getting ready to buy a truck. What do I look for to make sure it has not been deleted?
Make sure it can do a complete Regen in the parking lot. I would also have them pull all of the codes, you are looking for high heat events and the health of the emission system, the DOC/DPF and SCR filters. Odds are, the cans will be the originals, so figure replacing those into the price of the truck. You only want to purchase OEM filters, no aftermarket, as they typically do not last that long compared to the OEM branded filters. Others will call me on that, it is your money, spend it wisely.
@@michaelwright1602 Thank you for the great advice. I also agree with the OEM parts.
@@arnaldogonzalez4567 If you can, see if you can get under the valve cover to visually inspect the cam(s). You are looking for pitting and or scoring on both the cam(s) and rollers. If there is visual damage, that can be a healthy repair dollar wise. I would also invest $50 in an Engine Block Test Kit. They are easy to use, and can tell you if you have a bad head or other issues allowing combustion gas into the cooling system. Some folks will at least allow this test, if they don't, I would walk away from that particular truck.
And that is the problem, if you really do not know what to look for, you are really pissing in the wind. Personally, I stick with Cummins, as I know them very well, and the software and diagnostic tools are readily available. I also find the motors easier to work on as Cummins supplies you every thing you need to know in regards to their motors for free with their Cummins Quickserve on the internet. I in framed my CM-871 motor with my phone and a bag of tools, along with the help of my good friend that had the tools to properly cut the ledges in the block. I am currently fixing a very bad delete on one of these motors right now for a friend of mine.
I can usually tell when a 2010 or newer truck has been deleted by the sound of the exhaust note. Trucks with properly operating DPF/SCR systems do not have mufflers and are very quiet. The 2010 and newer trucks with loud exhaust that'll blow your eardrums out are the ones that have had the DPF systems removed. The DPF filter assemblies on today's trucks replaced the exhaust mufflers of older trucks like my IHC 9400i with its original factory installed Detroit Diesel 12.7L non-egr. Guys performing deletes to their trucks don't realize the change in the exhaust note is a dead give-away and a red flag for inspectors. My engine is still factory spec and rebuilt top to bottom and I'll continue running my same truck until the EPA says I can't. When that day arrives, I'll buy a Mack Pinnacle/Anthem.
You wouldn't be able to tell my truck has been deleted😉
My truck is no different than it was new besides power and fuel economy. Some people just know how to do it properly I suppose.
I get emissions tested every 2 yrs and it runs super clean as well. Just as clean as stock.
@@INFRNL1 Where did you get it done and how much did they charge you?
@@johncalvo1743
I got it done 8 yrs ago from a place near Chicago.
I believe at that time it was around $1800 for the tuning and a little kit. I had to pull the filters and opted to drill a bunch of holes through the filter material rather than gut them completely out.
I then had to have them welded back together..
I went this route just in case, so the stock system could hopefully still be reused if I ever decided to go back.
Still have full flow without the risk of filters getting clogged.
I'm not sure what people charge currently. At one point I had a check engine light come on even though that system shouldn't be active. Had to have a program reinstalled but that was only $1000 in the Denver area. I believe that was about 3 yrs ago (pre pandemic).
@@INFRNL1 Thank you. My truck has the EGR/DPF "fixed" also. But I lack power on hills. I was wondering if you had insight on this or maybe you knew someone. I don't trust just anyone with my truck.
After trying one with DEF I am back to 2007 . Last good truck . All after 2007 is paying for headache. No thank you
I'm lost on the EGR my EGR intercooler is leaking it needs to be replaced I just bought the truck my question is can I block the EGR coolant ports and leave the exhaust open is mandatory to delete it ? Thanks
Do you have to run exhaust through 1 box or run it behind box to save it?
As far as your advice to avoid high drain intervals, ive recently switched to Amsoil full synthetic and am doing 20K oil changes. I am taking oil samples with every oil change as well. Would something in the oil report indicate high levels of exhaust contaminate? Do you think it would be better to go back to my cheaper Mobile 1 Delvac and just do 10-12K miles oil changes?
You could very well be damaging your motor at those change intervals. All of that soot accumulates in the oil, and wears on the internals. You can install a bypass filter, Amsoil makes a universal filter bypass kit. You run that in tandem with your factory oil filter and change out every say four or five months or so. And you can use any filter you want, as long as it fits, you are good.
Hey Ryan, I just got my truck 2 months ago, it’s 2019 kenworth t680 w Paccar engine, i have not yet experienced a regen on this truck, does this make do automatic regens? I am not able to do a regeneration yet, is that normal? Could it be that this truck went through a delete?
I thought about deleting dpf but on the second thought maybe not!
Can you just do a automatic regen but just driving long distance? Any one👀
great stuff, very honest refreshing
How do I learn that any school or a class do u offer the.
Is there a way to just hookup a switch to the egr and open or close it when needed
Have you tried the fuel catalyst that Pittsburg power sales?
Hey Ryan, what's the name of the parts store again you get your parts from? Thx
D&W diesel
I have been owner operator for only 2.5 months and I purchased a 2017 freightliner Cascadia. I'm now having a dpf filter issue. Engine at full derate 100%. This problem has set me back like 4 days, im sitting at a truck shop in nebraska. I was going to delete my dpf, egr valve and dpf filter. I guess I won't do it now.
How can I not have this issue in the future?
Contact our shop, we will take care of the emission issue.
Trying to find that company DMWD SLOPE in Cleveland and not having any luck. Can you help me out? Thanks great content. Keep it going!!
Anyone know of someone that can do a dpf egr delete?
The Tesla semi solves the issue once and for all.
Thanks for the videos, good information mechanical and legal.
Welcome!
Great video. Hey brother whats the name of that shop in Cleveland, Ohio for reman turbos? I keep replaying your video to catch name but to no avail.
DNW diesel in New York.
D&W diesel is the name. Hope it helps.
DERATED MY TRUCK TO EURO 3 IN 2019 BY MAPPING ECU & EGR & DPF REMOVAL( GOT IT FROM OFFICIAL TRUCK DEALER INDONESIA🙂)....SINCE THEN...FUEL ECONOMY AND CLEANER ENGINE OIL😉....AIR INTAKE LOT CLEANER!
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Nice Info.. I agree Dpf is so overrated. But going back is not an option. You get pulled over in any state they can inspect if you have a Def delete and you can get fined on the spot maybe towed in California.
i have a problem with the DEF tank sensor. what do i have to do after replacing it to get red of codes and get engine out of limp mode? please and thank you
Hey can you make a video about how you would break in an engine?
Thanks brother good information
you are welcome.
Hello. Let us know name of your farm channel it is a link I have not found. Thanks
Here you go th-cam.com/users/FoxMicroFarms
What is the best speed to run at to maxamize dpf life? I heard some say 70-72 mph is the best speed to keep the filter clog free from what I heard.
It’s not about speed. It’s about rpm. If you can keep the engine idling above 1300 rpm for long periods of time then your system will accumulate the least amount of soot cause it moves out. With that kind of driving all you’ll have to do is clean out sensors that’ll have soot boogers built in them like iMap sensor. Egr and delta sensor you get the picture. The idea here is to prolong the life of the actual after treatment system so it can do its job the way its indented. Keeping these engines soot clean takes time and money but it has to be done if you don’t want emission problems. Another thing people overlook a lot is oil. Change your oil ALOT more frequently. If soot isn’t coming out of your pipe it’s going into two places, your oil, and ALL the crevices of your engine. An oil that’s filled with ash won’t lubricate. So you’ll start having engine related problems. Maintenance is truly key with these modern engines. They cost more to run reliably but this is what we’re forced to learn and keep up with in order to stay in business.
Excessive idling is biggest cause of dpf filter clogging-
Correct on the no more than 72 mph.
It seems a lot of used trucks that have been governed at 63MPH or less or for city use, have a lot of emisson problems. in my opinion, the trucks have been ran a little harder to keep the system hot, seems to keep system clearner, just a theory.
Congrats on hitting 5k subscribers!
Thank you!
Pas by los angeles you can do the erase on my 🚚 need
Thumbs up! Ur detailed but not concise. Couldve been half as long. Great info! Keep it up.
Is it possible to putting the codes back on ?
Very informative video but get a Tesla big rig and it won’t need diesel nor Dpf. I am debating it very heavy.
Everything was smooth sailing for us as truck drivers under Donald Trump,im gonna miss that guy😔
Wasn’t the ELD mandate started in the last 4 years or I’m trippin? Selective memory or we being honest....
Final Mandate was published in 2015, came into full effect 2016.
So it was in the works under our previous hero
Me too
Didn’t the company drivers lose their tax right offs under his admin?
No more write offs for per diem for company drivers. Law passed in 2018.
Great video, I didn’t catch the name of the part store you use right
What is the best way to get the software stuff for the truck