Gain & Room Tone | Episode 4: Indie Film Sound Guide | The Film Look

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  • @marclafunk9831
    @marclafunk9831 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Maybe a small tip, but use a XLR Y-Splitter to record a safety track like 6 dB below of your master track. It doesn’t cost anymore time or effort but can and probably will safe you on moments your master track is clipping.
    PS: Especially handy in run and gun situations

    • @brenthearn2349
      @brenthearn2349 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Marc LaFunk woahhhhh so simple but genius

    • @franciscoojeda11
      @franciscoojeda11 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And what about the quality?

  • @martinremixful
    @martinremixful 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What about this scenario: You record a take with the actor yelling loud and after that he speaks in a lower tone. You set the gain for the loud yell, but now you have to raise the lower tone to get up between -6 and-12 db. The noise/hissing will therefore also be raised and you don't want that noise/hissing in the rest of the dialoque. How do you solve this problem without denoiser?

    • @TheFilmLook
      @TheFilmLook  6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's a great question. We've dealt with this scenario before. Our way was to swing the boom and create distance for the yell then bring the boom closer again for the quiet dialogue.
      Another way you can do this is to set the levels for the quiet dialogue, hot-mix the loud yell on the fly by lowering the gain, then add extra room tone back in to compensate for the lack of natural room tone now baked into the track.

    • @martinremixful
      @martinremixful 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the fast and great answer. Definitely an usable advice :-)

    • @TheFilmLook
      @TheFilmLook  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great to hear!

  • @CallMeRafin
    @CallMeRafin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woahh 0 dislikes

  • @martinremixful
    @martinremixful 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you always put a full layer of room tone on top of the entire dialoque scene or just, if there is yelling? Or is it most of the time enough just connecting the dialoque recordings in smooth transitions without the top layer of room tone?

    • @TheFilmLook
      @TheFilmLook  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There will be natural room tone baked into your dialogue. I use room tone just to fill in the gaps and fix blips and mistakes. Our mixing episode covers how we use room tone in the edit.

  • @MediaProcast
    @MediaProcast 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think this is the best Filmmaking courses I've ever had. Thanks for sharing it with us and my best LIKE

    • @TheFilmLook
      @TheFilmLook  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      No problem, thanks for watching! Happy to help :D

  • @CmikeDnD
    @CmikeDnD 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Solid Advice!!!

  • @tn_films
    @tn_films 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guys how are you doing? You're great btw, I didn't understand the concept of setting the levels for the dialogue

    • @tn_films
      @tn_films 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok nevermind I got it😛

    • @TheFilmLook
      @TheFilmLook  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We're doing great! How are you?

    • @tn_films
      @tn_films 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheFilmLook doing great thanks.

  • @SmoothbassmanStudios
    @SmoothbassmanStudios 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good tip. I do dual channel recording on my F8 for everything. I have never needed more than 8 channels.

    • @TheFilmLook
      @TheFilmLook  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really handy, especially for a fast turn around

  • @anoushsabouri3661
    @anoushsabouri3661 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I appreciate your channel very much. Just thought I'd share that with you 🙏

  • @thewirv
    @thewirv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just absolutely love this series

  • @lesmizzle
    @lesmizzle 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Get yourself a field recorder with safety limiters on the input. Your Tascam probably has one. Read the manual.

    • @TheFilmLook
      @TheFilmLook  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We upgraded to the DR-70d a few years back now and have been using limiters when recording. Cheers!

  • @mediaproductionpro
    @mediaproductionpro 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tip having people record room tone before the scene. Not enough sound mixers and ops do this.

    • @TheFilmLook
      @TheFilmLook  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It gives people time to calm down before the big day of shooting too!

  • @einnerlink
    @einnerlink 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    And what kind of mic do you use for room tone recording? Not that shutgun, right? Cardioid or omnidirectional condenser microphone?

    • @TheFilmLook
      @TheFilmLook  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      We use the same microphone as the dialogue, so the shotgun mic, yes.

  • @rageinpeacegames8332
    @rageinpeacegames8332 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey there, I just want to say having just found this (a couple of years later) that this was/is an amazing mini-series. Short, sweet, and to the point. You guys have another subscriber for sure.

    • @TheFilmLook
      @TheFilmLook  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's great you found it after a few years. Glad you liked it and thanks for the sub.

  • @reptiles4u210
    @reptiles4u210 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    First comment