I wanted crime, I feel like a lot of the other pack are just recycled stuff, but that is just me. I don't get the Van because there is no driving in the game.
I believe they would add cars with the van pack, but the van itself still sounds boring for the sims--could be amazing in a completely new game though. Yes more crime--almost a guaranteed successful pack!
@@natalieelizabeth7877 crime would enhance the whole game experience, bring back some risk to all gameplay. A lot of the other stuff feels like one-off isolated experiences more than game expanding packs. Or generally not big enough for a whole pack. I like the idea of a summer camp addon, but that’s not an EP sized addition. That’s like a stuffpack.
Yes thank you!!! I feel the same way! I want bad sims and we could even get casinos in a pack like that which would be so fun! How would a van even work in multiple worlds??
Bring me the 80s-90s. It's so on-brand for there to be a Decade pack. Give me crime! I miss burglars, I miss being a criminal in TS3. There are so many things in the game that hint at crime but it's so easy to just be Mr. Bad Guy with no consequences, no jail, and everyone adores you. I want it to be easier to be hated. I absolutely love birds in The Sims 3 and would love to see them added to this game ❤ I really am intrigued by a potential mechanic career. I think this will change our relationship with cars in the game. If done correctly, if what we are seeing from The Sims team is any indication, this could be a very good upcoming year for the game.. but I feel like we experience this positive feeling every time they do a small wave of updates and statements. That said, it does look like EA is trying to stay competitive and they've seen what people have had to say. I'm curious how many are on the team now compared to... just before the pandemic.
" it's so easy to just be Mr. Bad Guy with no consequences," - you're not wrong there, for sure. I think these concepts (likely) we may not see for 2 years or so. It's hard to say, and it depends on what their pipeline looks like, but I'd think it'd be a while because it takes a long bit to make an expansion pack. I do hope the rest of this year is positive as possible. I have seen many report that the stability of their games have improved, and if so, that's def a great step forward
Id really like the sleepaway and apocalypse stuff. I'm into the more fantasy (less realistic) sim stuff. Cyberpunk would be fun too, and I'm less into scifi.
Sleepaway would really be helpful for boarding school gameplay! Or better yet, they should just add boarding school as an option. I don't know if HSY is still as messy as it was at launch tho, could be a nightmare to run... But I feel like being able to have a separate high school with dorms could be great (the bones are already there with university, just need to implement it on teens)
There was plenty of cool options, but I went with Both Cyberpunk and Monarchy, but I chose Monarchy in the end out of my last 2, since I felt like Monarchy might work well with Vampires,
Cyberpunk would also be excellent with vampires! It's already a story about how the rich feed on the poor...which is what vampires initially symbolized, anyways! xD
Monarchy was in my top five, I’m already using the get famous pack to pretend my sims are royal so it would be nice to actually have a monarchy pack. Great idea blending it with vampires, I would blend it with werewolves and do beauty and the beast storytelling
Modern monarchy just makes sense with the way people play the sims. We love rags to riches, we love multi-generational legacies, we love grandiose love stories and/or scandalous affairs, we love drama. Imagine if it was kind of like Eco Lifestyle where depending on the laws you enact you could dramatically change the actual world around you, making it run down and crime-ridden or peaceful and prosperous(I know that modern monarchs are usually figureheads so that might not make sense but it would be a missed opportunity for more interesting gameplay I think). I also imagine it being kind of like My Wedding Stories in the CAS and Build/Buy categories with representation for multiple different cultures, it would be lame if it was based on the British royal family, Asia has more modern monarchies than Europe after all.
While I don't think it's a we issue- I agree many do play rags to riches. Thanks for your perspective I worry it will be based on the British fam- but hope it isn't because I think there would be a lot of potential elsewhere
All in all I sort of understand why these ideas are in the lead, because they are a reflection of what is trending in the current pop culture. The "Modern Monarchy" just screams British Royalty or Bridgerton in modern times. Horses could been perfect for the elite "exotic pets", though I'm not too sure how the rest of the pets fit with the whole concept of the royalty and the ultra rich. The 80s/90s look pretty cool (though the fashion reminds me of the Retro fit Kit?), I'm thinking people are feel nostalgic more than ever. Even for Gen Z, who are not even BORN in these decades, have an urge to reenact the mid to late 20th century aesthetics. Tiktok/Instagram had a sudden boom on family van life, who refurbish trailers/bus/vans to livable spaces.
What would Bridgerton in modern times even be? Without the odd rules around courtship and inheritance, isn’t that just rich people deciding who to make out with at parties?
@Sofus-fu4ro It would be slightly more modern than medieval times. Also, while I like The Sims medieval, it's very quest oriented. Monarchies exist today as well, with less power.
I loved the 80’s 90’s retro mall pack but I also reeeaaally wanted the crime and ocean expansion packs to score higher as they sound like really cool packs plusss heellooo a possible Kraken there’s nothing more cool then that imo
we always have to take these results with a grain of salt but I am curious about the low score for the ocean one, maybe people feel bummed out by Sulani and don't want to try again
@@SimmerErin i do agree. i feel like as a whole the packs and expansions for S4 have been very hit and miss. at least to somebody relatively new to the franchise.
Really ppl...modern monarchy in 2024? Lol. It's not medieval monarchy guys... Tbh I'm not super Compelled by the mall idea either its another v American feeling concept? I loved the on the road and apocalypse survival ones personally. The customisable camper van thing sounded really fun and it also came with the idea of elder sims getting more focus which Im in dire need of! And the apocalypse stuff is just bc i love the drama and the resource management haha
hot take: but why not monarchy in an era that isn't medieval OR. modern? Those both feel so overdone imo. But still I say a spin off. I don't see it in sims 4. in a way yes, though I'd say that pack is very much a throw back to sims 2 and sims 3.
There was also too the fact that depending on how you answered, your survey would ask you more questions. I feel less like the community actually voted for a new pack and more like EA wanted to see if the expansion pack they were working on would be popular. My pick was the crimes and heist pack, I miss my burglars!
My faves were Crime and Malls as I think they would bring fresh gameplay opportunities. Guess my 3rd choice would be Van living...could be interesting if you could run maybe a food truck incorporating other packs like Home Chef Hustle. Thanks Erin for showcasing the poll results❤👍
welcome! hey theft at the mall goes well together ha Yeah it would. I wasn't into the van life one, but I see how there could be lots of potential neat pack integration, if they chose to pursue it
Yes! I’m actually so surprised by these results. The crime pack would’ve brought so much new game play for sims 4, especially with it already being so vanilla.
I would agree. Monarchy = celebrities, malls might be fun I guess but For Rent still isn’t working right so would they really succeed at multiple retail on one lot? And van life… yes I want more for seniors, but not van life. 🤷🏼♀️ I liked the exploration and dinosaur fossils with more interactive museums and maybe sleep away camp although I was a bit concerned about what happens to the rest of the household when you send a kid to camp. Could you swap between the two, or are you stuck at camp the whole time the kid’s there?
I have zero interest is modern monarchy. I knew it was going to win. I really wanted crime. The game needs more consequences and unexpected things to interfere with your sims.
That Modern Monarchy Pack sounds more like a spin off then a pack. Like how does it either mesh with the existing game or how it is cut off from it so that there is no bleed over? Worlds are not isolated after all, they all bleed into each other. Will Royalty, like celebrities, be turning up at the dumpster when your sims in dumpster diving in Evergreen Harbor?
I hope not but it's the Sims 4. I want a monarchy pack BC I'm not ever gonna play Sims medieval. I have no interest in it. I know the pack will bring something new to the game and it sounds expansion pack worthy if it's well executed.
If the celebrities of Del Sol Valley and the dreadful JUDITH WARD is any indication, these Royal NPCs will show up in places they will never step into realistically, which will be both comical and frustrating.
@@westanimesims Yeah its funny the first two times Celebs show up where they shouldn’t be and then its just annoying. Really a lot of EP ideas they have would be great in the Sims 4 format as SPIN OFFS like Castaway and Mideviel had been but its like they are afraid of anything Sims 4-like that isn’t a Sims 4 pack shoved into the Sims 4 game at large. It would also probably run better as a spin off game since it wouldn’t be loading ALL of Sims 4, most of which isn’t relevant to royalty play, in addition to the contents of the pack. Especially since this is a concept played better in isolation anyway, just make it its own game.
@@TheDawnofVanlife Honestly if the Batuu game pack is a spin off I wouldn't be so upset back in 2020. I think a lot of packs in Sims 4 should be spin offs. Strangerville or Jungle Adventure are the ones come to mind.
About Medieval Monarchy - what if they do it in a form of live show? The new world would be a fake kingdome and you could come there and take a role of royal knight or queen's/king's confidant or maybe even a ruler. As a knight you can take part in knight tournament, maybe royal hunt etc. As a ruler you can make decisions through dialog and see different outcomes in a form of cards (like in rabbit hole activities). As a confidant you can handle some private matters with nobility (maybe some diplomacy, delivering correspondence? ). And we definitely need a masquarade ball and a royal dinner and a court jester and.. So classic medieval monarchy but in kinda cartoonish form. This way it could fit Sims 4 timeline and cause less controversy. Not a native English speaker but I hope the general idea is understandable.
so here it is modern monarchy Your idea is really interesting though! Yes, I do understand it! I won't lie: the masquerade ball is something that would really appeal to me, in whatever pack
@@SimmerErin yeah "modern" part is what really frustrates me. I desperately wanted medieval pack for years and now it's "modern". I don't think there is a chance they will ever give us something like Sims Medieval so my idea is just a compromise.
As an anti-monarchist I was least interested in that pack (sounds possibly quite Get Famous-y in terms of game mechanics). I hope that by offering a van-life pack that they are in fact going to adapt the game to finally include vehicle gameplay. Certainly going to be seeking a refund if they drop that expansion and don't update the game to include vehicles. The 80s/90s theme calls to me - I hope I'm not projecting my desire to be able to recreate Sims 1 vibes through use of it. Considering EA's track record I won't get my hopes up.
I agree that it sounds like there are intersections with get famous. no clue what they would do with van life.. feels like a wildcard ah, you're allowed to project or want a pack for whatever reason
Not keen on the monarchy thing either. Like I said on Erin's other video, unless we can have revolutions! 😂 Someone here said they'd like it for their vampires, which I could get behind. It wouldn't be a pack I'm rushing into unless there's more than just rich family drama. I love sims worlds, so I'd look into that, but I'm a part apocalypse voter.
I don't think they CAN adapt the game to include driveable cars and other vehicles, at least not without redoing the entire engine. The current engine simply was not designed to handle them (and the worlds weren't either, for that matter).
This is so disappointing. Game already has lots of both modern and luxury, monarchy would only matter if you had something big to run and I dont see that happening. All the more unique ideas get pushed aside for more of the same and we just end up with the game feeling stale. I know unique packs are hard cause they aren't for everyone and get review bombed for it, but there are no life Sims as close as the Sims to covering a variety of themes, cultures and settings. Maybe they should just set up a new team dedicated to Spin-Offs like The Sims Medieval and Castaway. At the very least, I hope they favor the Retro Mall over the Modern Monarchy one, its unique enough and sounds much nicer than the rest of the top 5 (On the Road/Heists sound like nice ideas but probably very limited in what they can do with them in this game).
I will always say, packs should vary of course, because we have different things we enjoy. and some packs just wont' be for everyone, so I do hope to see a more so called risky pack too
@@CasualMurf i have to admit out of the 9 pack ideas, the 2 of them should be in a spin-off one (one of them is a monarchy one, i don't mind having them, just not in The Sims 4 in itself, the other being the extreme one, if not mistaken the "post apocalyptic" pack idea) But that's just my opinion
I went with the retro mall theme and also the ocean exploration theme because it mentioned an underwater world. I wrote in the comment section that if they went that pack it would be a good time to refresh and expand the mermaids in the Sims 4.
I voted for the modern monarchy and apocalypse, but I kinda missed the “modern” part😬 I just really want to have royal families for my fantasy save files, I wish they’d went for a more medieval tone, but I guess the excuse for not doing that is that we got a kit for it🙄An apocalypse themed pack is right up my alley, the “rags to riches” types of challenges where you have to start from the ground up have always intrigued me and I’d love a full on survival challenge. I have a hard time understanding why 80’s and the on the road concepts are so high up, they just seem incredibly generic.
I'd guess the main concern is integrating it into a game (for going modern) or maybe they felt it would be easier to make ? always curious to see how they come up with their ideas
I think it's pretty disgusting that this survey isn't available to every simmer. I have been playing the Sims since Sims 1 and I have yet to get access to ANY of these kinds of surveys.
it's a common thing to do: a random sampling. But I agree I wish it was sent out for everyone to take. I only got to take the official survey because someone tagged me on twitter. would not have known about it
I got there through a link from a sims TH-camr. It would have been nice if it was easier to find, but it was available to everyone. I miss them putting this on the home screen in the game, though
I had access to it via TS4 Main Screen, but it didn't show until yesterday. I always had the setting to show me any in-game surveys so it's strange it took so long
What?!? Retro pack with landline phones malls babysitting newspapers & awesome retro stuff to make our parent & grandparents houses etc is waaaayyyy better😫😤 -thought it would have won for sure...should'a voted more than once but I forgot to go back to it😣😭😞. (& I extremely dislike fake snobby monarchy😕) (...Also would have liked retro to include 70s & 60s items & clothes & wallpapers & flooring as well.😶🌫️..maybe in a future survey, after they make 80s 90s EP.🤞)
My gut instinct says a royal pack is already at least in works from concept as it's kind of been hinted at in many ways plus in lore we have princess Cordelia but I mean if Sims 4 is where they are hedging all there bets and sticking around for years to come all of these could make the cut at some point. To me, some sound more like game pack ideas or should be expansion pack refreshes. I really wish they'd also put out a write-in poll for future development because I think some of us in the community have much better ideas! 😂 when I saw the full description of the fossil pack it did sound interesting like an African or middle east inspired land to discover lost history and have proper museums is needed and the seaside theme could be fun if they had lore like jaws Amity Harbor but I also really want real drama and consequences and more sims spawning where appropriate. High school years said drama and I still am like where's the drama? I still don't understand why sims 2 gameplay mechanics can't make into sims 4. Maybe that's a topic you can explore :)
@@Sandra-86 I haven't brought either of the last 2 expansions packs so I get it and for me I would have preferred it to be more medieval than modern-based, but I guess they feel they did that already! I used to just buy them all, but I am at the point if I am not that interested, or it seems buggy and broken upon release I either won't get it at all or hold out until it's at least 50 percent off during a sale! :)
hard to say. I agree there is a lot of lore so to speak they could build from if they wanted to I have a theory that eps have been downsized. You see, they have cost $40 since 2014 and a lot of games have raised their prices/. so we could be seeing a shinkflation issue. I'd like objective means to measure that though and idk it's been even for all packs that way AHH okay, I did like the thought of unpacking local history in a place we haven't gotten before, so that helps me understand the appeal more agree.. HSY doesn't really have drama ha
Sleeper Camp and 90s Mall were the ones i wanted the most, and i wrote full paragraphs on the survey about why i thought theyd be great. 90s mall for more in-game 'gaming' content (tabletop. More boardgames. Arcade machines.) And Sleeper camp because we really have very, very little specific children's content
80s/90s Mall and Sleepaway Camp are my picks. They both seem cute and nostalgic (And I love 70s-90s aesthetics) but also actually seem like something that could be used and played with often across multiple families and generations. Modern Monarchy seems like the kind of thing I probably wouldn't even buy but if I did I'd play through it once and then never really touch the mechanics again.
I missed the survey-oh no! In my opinion, they should have given us more time to create a larger sample size. Ugh! Anyway, since Sims 4ever isn’t going away, I’d love to see all the game pack themes eventually! Hopefully, they’re just prioritizing which ones to develop first. Even though I missed out, I’m perfectly fine with what others chose as their favorite pack themes. Personally, I’d love a royalty-themed pack where my Sims could have servants catering to them. I remember the funeral of Prince Philip, and I envision an entire world inspired by Windsor Castle, complete with a castle town. I have to admit, I can’t quite picture how they would execute a van life pack, but I’m curious to see what they come up with. I really hope cars are a given by the time that pack is released!
so this is from sims community's results and may or may not reflect proportions from the official survey which we prob will never know. hard to say how well it correlates and yes, it is possible it is a matter of priority. surveys are weird.. you will see a really old idea pop back up as a possibility years later. hard to say.
Oof. Sims 4 is 10 years old... It feels nostalgic. People were really excited about the idea of a Sims five announcement, and now people are hype for an 80s / 90s expansion. One of the most recent kits focused on the early 2000s for cas. -_- I'm just so tired of moving backwards chronologically. Personally, I didn't even care much for it... But the on the road theme would have given elders something to do, a very underserved Sims category.
From what I've noticed in discussions, the Retro theme isn't desired for nostalgia or aesthetics per say. It's instead players being aware what TS4 is both capable of and can't fail even with its usual barebones expansion habits as of late, moreso when knowing how it should be cross-play compatible and still make functional sense (even if TS4's Expansions aren't necessarily capable of it). Also, it's the least likely to feel much like a pack that should've already been included in a far earlier pack. eg, Modern Monarchy is Get Famous 2.0 🤷♀ But I agree it's pathetic they're too lazy to create a long-lasting engine for TS5, and instead trying to continue forcing TS4's mobile-designed engine to last forever. I never expected Rene to be TS5, but I was really hoping it was the experimental project for the sake of developing TS5's core coding. Regardless, they're still trying the MMO route and it'll bite them in the bum if they truly canceled TS5 and aren't trying to psych us out by claiming TS4 is 4ever - and that's being skeptical they're trying that hard lol
hm, I feel like sims 4 has tons of modern stuff too though, more so than it does older content . But depending on one's age, people will have a different idea of what old means..
@@SimmerErin thank you for taking your time and replying, I know you don't have to poke through all these comments and it means a lot. For me, we have a lot of packs that could use touch ups. Some designs are dated, and that's actually really great. If I want to make a room that looked like rooms looked in my highschool days, I can whip up something from 2010. Pastel pop, highschool, throwback, maybe some dream home decorator and get together stuff for good measure. It's when the skandi style just started getting big... But say I switch gears and I want to make a 1910's art nouveaux room. It's a little harder but I can use relm of magic, University, and the new bistro kit... With a little elbow grease I can age anything to the right decade, I could probably make a mall too... But I can't recreate gameplay ... Do I think creating a 'mall' lot is a cool idea, yeah. Would I make an outdoor market for contemporary builds because that's what's replacing them in real life currently.... Also yeah. I can't recreate ramen shops or board games stores as easily as I can make a place look like one. I can't as a PlayStation user mod in those things. But if I have to choose between the mall concept, or possibly adding a driving mechanic and giving elders some more fun stuff to do... I feel like even if I as a build mode centric simmer don't benefit from all that new gameplay, the van life expansion is way more unique then modern royalty or the retro mall. You know? It's not really my fight 😁 but even though that's the case, I can recognize that it's more expansive on a narrative level. (If ea can actually pull it off and give the description justice in game. )
Tbh I feel like we’ll get most of these at some point. With the other surveys we ended up getting much of the content from the surveys anyways despite what we voted for.
agreed. Idk we will get all, but I highly doubt we're only getting one or two ; in the past they indeed have checked off many ideas. But I do think they take votes into consideration: they may eliminate a few and decide how and what to prioritize. the official survey also asked if you felt more or less interested after seeing the full descriptions, so they are prob trying to figure out marketing and also what to include in each pack they decide to do
Dang I really wanted 80s/90s to win. So close. Modern monarchy honestly sounds so lame to me, we already have so many modern luxury packs it feels like.
with surveys like this, the team almost always completes several of them- so they wouldn't likely pick just one winner here, even with whatever the official results say
I feel like we've been asking for a Band EP for a loooong time, and they didn't even include it as an option in the poll. They have to know we want it.
Wow this is very interesting for me to see how many people want a MODERN monarchy pack. Personally I wouldn't have voted for it because while it could actually be cool I don't know how easily it could be blended in with Sims 4 and all of the other packs plus I feel like its going to be European again but if there's going to be people that going to be happy with them I should be happy for them too! Have a good week Erin! 👑
It was my second choice. It wasn't island paradise refresh. If you selected the option as one of your 3 choices it gave a long description of the 3 you picked. In the long description it made it clear it would come with a coastal Maine type world. Would feature lighthouses, submarines, scuba diving, and exploring underwater caves and shipwrecks for buried treasure.
I mainly build in Sims 4 & in the survey I voted the Mall & Modern Monarchy as my tops, so I'm pleastly suprise by Sims Community poll winners. This two would be great for building (just my opinion, of course). Mall is quite obvious (ideally being fully customizable lot type), but let me dive into monarchy. If you look up list of current monarchy in our world - a lot of them are sultanats & emirates, an arab monarchies. That would be a great opportunity to add more representation, if the sims team don't want to go classic British-based route (but knowing how popular Britain Royal Family is, they might do so of course). With basing the pack around arab monarchy, we could get a new desert type world (not based on USA for once), that Courtyard Oasis Kit would fit perfectly. Also furniture less tacky than the Get Famous ones, but still patterned, using paisley & moroccan clover with bold colors as well as neutral swatches. For gameplay I can see maybe some more mature, drama inducing themes (balls&banquets as new party types we can plan, arranged mariages, of-screen assasinations of royals) being introduced if it possible to do so while still keeping PG14 rating. Also new skills/hobbies - such as archery, competitive shooting/hunting, golf. For pets I imagine mainly birds - hunting ones (falcon, eagle), good looking ones for gardens (peacock, flamingo) & singing/talking ones (parrot, canary) - each type with small, new gameplay like teaching parrots to speak or training falcons in hunting. Possibly expanded/better genalogy trees & inheritance in base game update right before Monarchy pack since legacy stuff seems kind of important for royals? But the more I'm thinking of it, it seems to be more fiting to become a game pack, closed to one world (like Strangerville storyline for example), rather than an expansion pack with possibility to have royal families in every world.
My picks were 80s/90s, Sleepaway camp, and van living. I'm a total sucker for the 80s/90s everything, the camp felt like it would add more to the kid life stage, and the van pack makes me think they might add cars and that's been a desperate need for the sims 4
one person of course would not make a big difference but many people doing it, yes. It would be ideal if they could prevent that. course, the team themselves will have the official results
Sleepaway camp gave me gravity falls ,scooby doo vibes whit the idea of childs discovering myths and mysterys in there My second option was apocalypse would be really fun to manage a survival camp The fossil hunting,coral reefs gave subnautica vibes imagine diving in winderburg and saying hi to Ness or building a house"base" underwater
At first when I first saw "Monarchy" and "pets", my thought immediately went to the Baby Dragons in Dragon Valley from TS3. But then I realized it was "Modern" Monarchy NOT Medieval Monarchy, so who knows what kind of pets could really come with it coz I am honestly really clueless what other pets that could belong to a royal family other than what we already have in the game? With that being said tho, I STILL AM, WAITING FOR SMALL PETS TO COME BACK 😭 Tbh, I have been waiting for Birds, Rodents, Turtles, Lizards, Snakes, etc. to return since Cottage Living! I know we kinda got better birds with Cottage Living (compared to the Bird Feeder in Backyard Stuff), but I still wish they were not lumped together in a flock and we could bond individually with one of them. We also kinda already have Rodents with My First Pet Stuff, idk I guess I just miss the ability to run into them in the world / neighborhood and adopt them similar to how it worked back then in The Sims 3. That part was so much fun to me, I pray every day for it to return and for Small Pets to come back 😭
yeah, I guess there is always a possibility they add a magical realism element to it though it does't seem like it. I do think maybe small pets though there's that whole goofy exclusive issue
Maybe we can still have dragons as some kind of family heritage since Medieval times? Something like Game of Thrones/House of the Dragons but nowdays. If that's the case i hope we can get other mythological creatures as pets like Griffin, Hippogriff, (Medieval) Unicorn, Phoenix, cause i'm pretty sure seeing them while studying Europe's history and its monarchys, kingdoms, etc.
@@SimmerErin oh absolutely but they ended up near the end, I'm so disappointed right now, for me the modern monarchy theme is the most boring out of them all 😢
@@Aeliciya that is my bottom two. so one thing to cheer you up is that the official survey results are going to include so many more votes, and we don't know for sure how accurately this depicts how people voted
I don't really understand the 80s/90s mall at all. For one thing will sims have to take a time machine to get there? Or will it literally just be a mall from the 80s or 90s since that is when most malls were built. A lot of the other ideas seem focused on a specific, detailed new gameplay feature, but this pack seems like it would just be a cluster of random little things... like drinking from a hose...? I would love to see different eras from recent history represented in the game but I expected them in a kit or a stuff pack at most.
No, I don't think it's going back in time. all of the things listed exist today. people and businesses still use landlines. tabletop games are widely played. malls exist. arcades exist. People still wear both 90s and 80s inspired fashion
@@SimmerErin yeah, I guess I don't quite see the vision. It could be good of course, particularly if it came along with a multi functional lots base game update.
I really want arcades as their own lot type. I also wish they would make bowling alleys their own type too tbh, I'm surprised they didn't when they first added it to the game
The survey also asked if there were mods that provide the same experiences they were suggesting in those EPs concepts. I'm glad that they are aware of them after what they did to TurboDriver, the whole attraction system implemented in Lovestruck is a WonderWhims/WickedWhims ripoff.
so I can't agree with this argument. such mods are based on past sims games and general concepts. The system in lovestruck is not the same as the mod, either
I didn't know they wanted our feedback on a new expansion. I would have told them I don't want any new expansions that cost more money, and I want them to fix the bugs and content from the base game and deepend the fundamentals and first packs for free. Ugh I got bad flashbacks to Medieval now. I always eventually hit a gamebreaking bug that forced starting over and deleting my save file.
regardless, they will keep making eps because they decided to keep sims 4 going for many years. we did just get a huge patch, so hopefully those bug fixes will keep coming in such a manner
The monarch pack is kinda interesting but im afraid that will be like Star wars pack. If theres a world and build things, it will be just there. For the builders simmers, its amazing, but as gameplay people will play one or twice and leave it The 80´s and 90´s pack, its interesting for community lots. Adds more stuff, a shopping mall with arcade stores and perhaps multiple floors with each floor a specific community lot? who knows. We already have the rent lots, why not use the same code for multiple lots... The criminal, can add some gameplay like having a criminal job, and be active... we already have the crowbar animation with rent system. so why not use it, to enter in homes and steal things, to sell in some specific shop. Or why not connect with detective career? perhaps having a gang and commit small jobs till become the boss... having whoohoo clubs?
in some ways, I think the modern monarchy would work best like that pack: a closed off world. but I very much stand by it'd be way better as a spinoff yes.. in theory I'd say the foundation for malls is there. prob is wise to use what you have to the extent you can I agree the crime one likewise could use a lot of what we have and build up from there. very economical and wise to think that way
Dang was kinda hoping Cyberpunk would be more popular. But my #1 was definitely 80s/90s Mall. I just feel like so many "hang out" spots for Sims are just bars and I'd like more shops/arcades or at least the assets to build my own. I really think the exclusive pets might be what drove that one, I've definitely wanted pet birds/more smaller holdable pets, but the monarchy thing sounds boring to me. I almost never play with any aspect of celebrity stuff and I feel like its too close to that in my mind.
cyberpunk was my #2 ha. so I guess we voted the same. I agree that the pets at least played some role here. I am not sue how I feel about the 'exclusive' idea though I understand it it in context
Modern monarchy is my top pick and is the one that I’ve suspected that is coming to the Sims 4 for a very long time now. People don’t want it or why people don’t see It’s perfect for the Sims is beyond me. a game that’s about legacy and generational building feels like it needs a monarchy.
Kinda sad fossil hunting is the least liked, was hoping for some dinosaurs in TS :D But, Modern Monarchy was another favourite, so I guess that's something.
@@SimmerErin well, in this case just fossils but that’s actually better, the game’s already plenty wacky and supernatural, would prefer to keep it semi realistic
maybe they liked them in sims 2 which is also a closed world. the mechanic career, owning a car, building purposes. I'll be real that I don't personally care about cars
Yeah and that'll happen unless they essentially shut off the world like Idk batuu unless it's even by design another way: being able to select any world you can be a monarch over. not sure
I totally wanted crime. I hate that we have a clepto trait but there is no reprocussions from stealing. And then we have this Public Enemy aspiration which is kinda stupid without any reprocussions. The 80's and 90's mall thing... eh. I didn't like malls in real life. Doubt I'd care about them in The Sims.
Although I still love and occasionally play the Sims Medieval, I am not at all interested in the gameplay of a ‘royalty’ pack. Modern royalty is about duty and service (at least in Europe it is), this pack description seems to be all about the power and wealth that comes with celebrity. In fact an extension of Get Famous 🤷🏻♀️ I hope, if they make it, that it at least pleases those that voted for it.
ha I had to have a chart, I def found it easier to look at than a list of percentages! The only upside I can tell you is these are very unofficial results, so who knows if it aligns well with the official results the team is getting
A question for you at the bottom if you read through. I am not a Sims 4 player. I play Sims 3 (only) and farming sims games. With that being said, your channel has been my favorite out of Sims 4 channels I've tried. I've really enjoyed keeping up with the news and what might come next (that I may be interested in). But with this new news that Sims 4 is here to stay, I feel like the Sims is (almost) dead to me. I am also really curious what TH-camrs like you think.. Do you feel pessimistic about your continued coverage of the Sims or do you plan to stick this out forever? Would you switch over to covering other games more instead?
I'm just going to ride it out and see what I think. I'm a very anxious person by nature, so thinking ahead and worrying is something I am trying to work on. I def want to cover to see what rene is. and I already cover paralives and inzoi and am open to covering games as I see fit In the future. I may also do some retrospective reviews, gameplay etc as I have sims 2 and 3 instaled in short, I don't know. I'm cool with continuing to cover sims 4 for now, and if I decide I don't want to, I won't
@@SimmerErin Okay. Thank you for the response. I will definitely continue to follow your coverage on Paralives. Ofc I wish you the best and am interested to see if you and other TH-camrs continue to cover Sims 4 at the same pace.
I voted Monarchy and Cyberpunk. Sad to see Cyberpunk so low. * I would've liked medieval Monarchy but I'll take modern for the titles alone. Hopefully they'll show up as jobs because I never know what jobs to choose for royalty... I have a lot of (medieval / fantasy) stories with royalty sims. I hope I'll be able to more accurately play them. For example, a son who can't inherit the throne because his step mother made it so he is disowned and cut off his ring fingers. He was sent in the war as a child and then became the army's general. The king dies, there's 3 children left from the stepmom - the eldest is killed in a war mistake after not listening to the general, the middle son is incompetent and the general will either support the youngest sister (as per his father's last wish) or usurp and take the throne himself. I also have an Arthurian story, so I need a king and a consort. And so on, probably around 10ish stories and one of them takes the whole map of Henford. * I also have a few cyberpunk stories; I used the Del Sol Valley map but doesn't really fit the aesthetic... oh well...
I'm not a huge fan of 2/3 of the top ones. Of course, we have to keep in mind that this may not be representative all of who voted in the official poll
@@SimmerErin Grow and develop Sims families. I thought it was referring to family and that's why I marked it. It comes on the 1st Page of the questionnaire.
@@maiapez6802 oh you may be talking abut the preliminary questions, which asks why you play sims 4 and what you can about most. that was before voting for the packs
I hope we get better posiblitity to build homes that looks old. if they go for modern monarchies. after all it´s not like we got many new the last 100 years. so their buildings are going going to be old.
I take it you mean more classic architecture. Yes, that would make sense. and of course what it entails would depend on the culture/ region it's set in
@@SimmerErin elder activities, for one. But the concept of van life (even highly limited as it likely will be) is so fun. I'm hoping it comes with a campground style lot to park the vans. I'd love to give Bella Goth a travel van for her missing years. 😁
@@jomorris807 van life is on my top 3, also coming from a 90's kid (born in late 90's) I don't care for the cars in itself but i love when it said "elder activities" and travel to other worlds to learn and experience stuff😍😍
Why does all of them have to be expansion packs? What happened to game packs? Most of these concepts would be better as a game pack than a full of expansion
I didnt want to pick royalty cause i feel like it would be too european. I would want them to include africa(a entire widely diverse continent completely left out) but i feel people would find a way to say this is bad
@@SimmerErin thats what i expect also, i think what i mean is they should include royal clothes from different regions, and not 1-2 and the rest being the UK
1:10 I knew nothing about the poll or the content of the expansion packs when I commented. But just from the titles alone, I'd actually pick Modern Monarchy. I love playing over multiple generations. It seems like this pack could add gameplay features that are available all the time, affecting gameplay as a whole. (I don't have many packs, but Get Together is still my favourite. I use/abuse clubs all the time) Some of the packs sound interesting, but they should be stuff packs or, with enough unique objects, game packs. These are 80s/90s, Cyberpunk. Then are are packs that sound cool but also sound like a gimmicky map that I will visit only once or twice: Ocean Exploration. And the rest just ... doesn't interest me.
thanks for sharing that! I def am keen on leaning more about why people selected monarchy as a top choice. It's tricky for me to say what should be what kind of pack but most to me feel either like a spin off or a game pack. But I kinda wonder if game packs will still exist
I really like the crime/heist one. It could've merged with the modern monarch one too, either be a rich monarch or a robin hood in modern times for example. I also really like the 80/90s mall one as well.
The dystopian one seems interesting, but I am nervous about the implementation of it. A lot of these are "well it depends on the how the team actually executes it"
Honestly the cyberpunk could've combined with both the criminal AND the apocalyptic pack (they're just subparts of cyberpunk). 🥲 The ocean exploration was my second pack because it would've added so much AND probably would've seen mermaids refreshed.
Mall is important as a lot type because then we can probably put restaurants coffee shops cinemas etc all together in one lot and have it all be functional 😢
I'd still say if they did that though a bg update for multifunctional may be possible now I do think some things- like the cinema- would be rabbit holes. We also of course run into the issue of only so many sims spawning per lot
Yeah, I wondered if that was coming after For Rent. Since they found a way for different households to live in the same lots, I assume that multiple businesses types in the same lot is coming soon.
I already try to build the lot with residental rental lot just above the community places as a multi functional lot Hopefully with the 80's/90's pack they add multi-functional lots but also like each community in 1 lot (clothes store, restaurant, pet store to name a few) Or the household running a business while they lives just above where they works (it's realistic, or atleast where i live) I'm definitely in for the 80's/90's pack😁😁👍
Same. Also the cyberpunk one. Those two were more unique than what we've had in the past, same with fossil hunting honestly though I don't know how it could work as an EP, maybe an SP would work best. They all seem really unique and we can't exactly replicate them using mods or things that exist in the game already (I am certain there's a way to make royalty already with what we have using clubs and the fame system, even malls we can already make and either download mods or utilise clubs and such for jobs).
same, I just don't see it add something really that wonderful to the game. the more interesting aspects: like rivals or power.. that feels very spin off to me
That part! So many ppl like to do family line challenges they should put more effort into and old timey monarchy before a modern one. They just need an expansion to the political career I feel and some old timey base game items
Judging by the pie chart, it's painfully clear that I'm not the core audience of that franchise anymore... my most favorite concepts were Apocalypse and Cyberpunk XD A lot of those pack ideas brought up things that don't particularly belong together, but certainly had individual appeal (like elder people having gameplay in... On The Road, which is totally unrelated !), and it clearly played a part in the votes you used as a basis for this video. The pets for Modern Monarchy could be fantasy pets (like dragons for instance). Personally I'd be game for political stuff that has an incidence on the world (Eco Living is already about activitism that changes the world, but its policies are limited to certain things and individualizes a lot of behaviors), but at the same time I know TS4 would probably never give me political intrigue with any kind of substance... Meanwhile the 80s/90s Mall idea is, like, exactly what I expect that game to execute fairly well, by adding lot types, jobs and activities, but no actual gameplay that adds to the *mechanics* we already know. It adds content that's easy to add to the pile, without making anything more interesting. That said, adding an entire world that's a giant mall, where each neighborhood is a different floor, and the various lots are stores/restaurants, would absolutely be a great idea ; it would make the food court doable in a way similar to the festivals, too. Sadly I don't think EA would ever come up with something that original. Overall TS4 really should experiment with worlds a lot more imho, like the underwater pack they suggested should be an underwater village where you can live in giant bubbles, come on ! How did they miss that idea, when someone made concept art for it YEARS ago ! Try a little, EA. You can't just say "drama" and expect people to be pleased with the bare minimum. That's actually a huge red flag for me, when EA uses "drama" in a description for a pack. I know it's just going to be soap opera levels of BS, without any consequences, and that stuff has zero appeal to me. I don't want more drama, I want more depth. It's very different.
I voted for cyberpunk as my second choice, which was basically tied with apocalyptic if I could have voted three. I can't say for sure what conclusions to draw.. since this is indeed a small sample here. But some mentioned that the most popular ones winning are tied to eh TikTok trends ha sooo that would make me out of the loop too. Drama in of itself sounds great but yes it really at this point is a buzzword
@@christabelle__ In TS2 it was really easy to use an empty world to create something apocalyptic or futuristic or sciencefictiony. But with TS4 having so much detail in the worlds, you can't pretend you're on another planet or in a dystopian world, so a themed DLC feels more necessary. Like what am I going to do, pretend I have a Cyberpunk society in the middle of Oasis Springs' decor ?
It was clear from the get go that Sims 4 isn't really made to address all preferences and to make your stories. Since the worlds are premade, you get severely limited by the stories that could be told there OR you use CC and try to ignore and pretend. It's all around mainstream generic modern day life. Fantasy / medieval / sci fi and so on have almost nothing aside from the occult packs. I also voted cyberpunk btw, sad it's almost last...
@@Crisalpha Agreed. The game was promoted around the concept of "telling our own stories", but it also limits where and how more than any of the three that came before it. I don't expect medieval stuff (or any historic stuff, in fact ; the castle kit came as a surprise to me) because of how embedded a certain level of technology is in the gameplay (mainly the phones, but not just them), which would make it necessary to create huge workarounds that we all know EA will never invest in. However for futuristic stuff, it feels like it should be doable, I don't know. In any case, yeah, TS4 has been a disappointment for me, as a player who had done so many sci-fi stories in TS2 for instance.
I thought about voting it for it but I figured I wouldn't have liked the implementation. Very few games pull off underwater exploration right and I doubt sims would have been one of them.
@@Crisalpha I completely agree I was so disappointed when island living came out and it was so lack luster. When I was like 13 sims 3 island paradise was so good. The whole owning a resort concept was so cool and felt so rewarding when you hit 5 star resort status, also I actually felt sims 3 did the underwater really well. Not to mention 13 year old me shitting my pants and freaking out on my houseboat when a kraken would swim under. As much as I would like this on the sims 4 they already did the island pack and knowing how buggy all the expansions are on release id rather we just get a expansion that is based on something we haven’t already gotten.
The idea of a modern monarchy is great. Pet wise I was thinking more exotic, I want lions and tigers. Modern Princess Jasmine. But I don't really expect them to do this. I also really loved the crime/ heist idea. Specifically the vigilante part. The ability to create heroes and villains is a want. That's drama and action. As long as it's implemented well.
yeah I was surprised even when they added llamas to the game but of course there was a lot in cottage living tied to stalls. only larger animals we got were horses and as we know they did a whole ep for them. so I am guessing they'd be small- but I could be wrong.
I liked the Modern Monarchy and the Cyberpunk ideas. I’m not surprised that the majority of the sims community isn’t into cyberpunk, but man it would have been so cool.
Man, Cyberpunk would have been my top pick, if I'd done this! I LOVE Cyberpunk stuff, and it's something that's lacking in the market - ESPECIALLY in life sims...there are none. There is one in the works, but the style is like...Minecraft/Roblox except for the humans, who are high rez - it's not my favorite blend of styles. The Sims 4 doing Cyberpunk wouldn't be perfect, but it would be better than the literal nothing that exists for Cyberpunk Life Sims. If they got the world in game, and set up the systems...modders could pick up the slack, at the least! Kinda bummed that it's almost in last place. :( (Cyberpunk also often comes with a lot of 80s aesthetics as part of the genre, it's the retro-futurism aspect of it - so it would do double-duty! xD And hey, there's always an aspect of underground crime in Cyberpunk too - so it covers ANOTHER of those packs! >_>)
The mall pack is both a different theme than typical and seems to need different mechanics, which would bring something fresh to the game. The fossil hunting is just base game + Jungle Adventure, so unsurprising it wasn't really popular. My favorite was the sleepaway camp because I've been longing for the pack Outdoor Retreat could have been, plus it'd be lovely to have more specific gameplay dedicated to children (not just one off interactions in larger packs.) With the crime pack, I just don't think the Sims 4 has the capacity to introduce the gameplay consequences to make this pack fun and worth itmn
The sleep away pack I can see the appeal. I'll be annoying and say it feels a lot more game pack esque (but those arguments always happen ha). Sims 4 crime pack I agree that there are areas of it I am a little skeptical of
Im fine with sims team taking inspo and gameplay from mods, like that i dont have to worry about said mods breaking my game every single time an update happens.
Fossil hunting with 5% 😂 i fossil hunt around western Pennsylvania to eastern Ohio and West Virginia. All Carboniferous and early Permian unless you go north west Pa and most of Ohio are Devonian ocean. I think the sims 4 has enough fossils. I still want better jobs. A rework of the hospital and police jobs. This survey has a bunch of neat ideas that all could be fun if done well. Having turtles 🐢 as pets would be awesome and ramen shops got me interested. Whatever we get I’ll be ok with it. Malls are a definite must for the sims 4 if once again done right. Sims 3 would handle a mall better with the open world game play. Food court vs just having food stalls could be great if done right. Some great ideas here. Hope you’re doing well and have a great week!
oh no way! whereabouts in eastern ohio? that's cool. yeah, I just don't see it adding much novel to the game agreed... I do find myself often thinking x would be better with an open world of course then again sims 3 had many things as rabbit holes with that open world .
@@SimmerErin south east on the West Virginia side is where I look a lot since it’s late Carboniferous to early Permian. The app Rockd is a good resource for finding what geological formations you’re in but it doesn’t tell you which horizon of sedimentary rock it is. I use Rockd to talk to museums and universities around the nation. You’ll find mainly sea life around most of Ohio unless you’re done in the Kanawha group then it’s a combination of sea, coal swamps and river systems and delta systems ranging from 330 million to 285 million years in age
I went for the van and the ocean options. The van might bring cars and driving for once and all. The ocean I was dreaming for an Atlantis world where you live in a fictional modern underwater city. I know that will probably never happen but hey one can dream. If they do the modern monarchy I wish the make it based in a Dubai/ Arab monarchy, the pets can be lions and cheetah, they do that in Dubai, they also have lots of high rises where they can implement the estate managing thing. That will finally give us an Arab world.
What is modern monarchy? Just rich people? Heirs to companies? I saw the survey description but I’m still quite confused by this as a concept for the game.
I saw the result of this poll just a few hours after it went LIVE, and it honestly kinda shocked me and worried me (personal opinion), especially how a lot of people voiced their concerns and lack of interest for MODERN Monarchy NOT being MEDIEVAL Monarchy. I personally would still love to hear more from them why they are against Modern Monarchy, and only interested in Medieval Monarchy. I'm not really into both, but if it has to come, I also much more prefer the Medieval takes. However, I do realize how it could be out of place in TS4 where all of the worlds are connected in a way.
I really want my Sims to be queens or kings. I guess I'm the minority BC I don't want it to be medieval. As long as it fits with the theme of Sims 4 I'm all good. the pack tells for great storytelling
@@themysticwarriorgal9465 Interesting! Thank you for sharing! I am particularly still wondering why a good portion of people are unattracted to the Modern Monarchy if Medieval is out of the option.
@@stevenchippssI don’t like the idea of modern monarchy because if they are kings and queens in modern times, they are just wealthy people following made up rules that force them to live in a human museum with no relevance to culture other than gossip and pageantry. If the gameplay is that monarchy is the system of modern government, that’s far too dark a theme for ts4 to cover with any depth. The currently existing absolute monarchies are not situations I would like to role play. If it’s shallow, you can already make a rich sim and I guess they will just add crowns and curtsies? A historical or even futuristic monarchy pack could be fun and escapist if their world was fully fleshed out. If future people are actually ruled by an absolute monarchy, surely that means an apocalypse has occurred and your rulers need to manage a dystopia, perhaps resisted by cyberpunks.
@@SimmerErin it's the most interesting, the community has been asking for this for so long, it also features property management and it's something new that we've never seen in any mainline Sims game. Up til now most expansions have been about something we've already had before, but the only other time we've had royalty in The Sims was in TS Medieval and this could act as a sort of spiritual sequel to that.
Elders would have had some gameplay and possiblity ot cars. Kids could havad had some gameplay. Could have made a team of superheros and supervillians and had them defend the city or cause all kinds of chaos. And instead people wanted.....a legacy expansion pack under the guise of royalty. So let the complaining about no cars and no gameplay continue. Yes I am salty about the packs I voted for not being picked. It just would have been nice to have something new especially if this game is expected to go on for another 10 years.
oddly enough there was a leaked survey from many years ago that had superheroes as a possibility. I just can't confirm its veracity. Sims VIP reported on it
I wanted crime, I feel like a lot of the other pack are just recycled stuff, but that is just me. I don't get the Van because there is no driving in the game.
not sure if the van indicates a bg update that would allow one to drive or not
You naughty girl. Lol.
I believe they would add cars with the van pack, but the van itself still sounds boring for the sims--could be amazing in a completely new game though. Yes more crime--almost a guaranteed successful pack!
@@natalieelizabeth7877 crime would enhance the whole game experience, bring back some risk to all gameplay. A lot of the other stuff feels like one-off isolated experiences more than game expanding packs. Or generally not big enough for a whole pack. I like the idea of a summer camp addon, but that’s not an EP sized addition. That’s like a stuffpack.
Yes thank you!!! I feel the same way! I want bad sims and we could even get casinos in a pack like that which would be so fun! How would a van even work in multiple worlds??
Bring me the 80s-90s. It's so on-brand for there to be a Decade pack. Give me crime! I miss burglars, I miss being a criminal in TS3. There are so many things in the game that hint at crime but it's so easy to just be Mr. Bad Guy with no consequences, no jail, and everyone adores you. I want it to be easier to be hated.
I absolutely love birds in The Sims 3 and would love to see them added to this game ❤
I really am intrigued by a potential mechanic career. I think this will change our relationship with cars in the game. If done correctly, if what we are seeing from The Sims team is any indication, this could be a very good upcoming year for the game.. but I feel like we experience this positive feeling every time they do a small wave of updates and statements. That said, it does look like EA is trying to stay competitive and they've seen what people have had to say. I'm curious how many are on the team now compared to... just before the pandemic.
" it's so easy to just be Mr. Bad Guy with no consequences," - you're not wrong there, for sure.
I think these concepts (likely) we may not see for 2 years or so. It's hard to say, and it depends on what their pipeline looks like, but I'd think it'd be a while because it takes a long bit to make an expansion pack.
I do hope the rest of this year is positive as possible. I have seen many report that the stability of their games have improved, and if so, that's def a great step forward
Id really like the sleepaway and apocalypse stuff. I'm into the more fantasy (less realistic) sim stuff. Cyberpunk would be fun too, and I'm less into scifi.
cyberpunk and apocalypse were tied for me technically (could only pick two) as my 2nd choice. I am a sucker for dystopian stuff
Sleepaway would really be helpful for boarding school gameplay! Or better yet, they should just add boarding school as an option. I don't know if HSY is still as messy as it was at launch tho, could be a nightmare to run... But I feel like being able to have a separate high school with dorms could be great (the bones are already there with university, just need to implement it on teens)
There was plenty of cool options, but I went with Both Cyberpunk and Monarchy, but I chose Monarchy in the end out of my last 2, since I felt like Monarchy might work well with Vampires,
oh interesting. hopefully it would have occult integration in mind
Cyberpunk would also be excellent with vampires! It's already a story about how the rich feed on the poor...which is what vampires initially symbolized, anyways! xD
I chose exactly the same. Wanted medieval Monarchy though, but I voted for it since I'd still prefer having the titles over having nothing.
Monarchy was in my top five, I’m already using the get famous pack to pretend my sims are royal so it would be nice to actually have a monarchy pack. Great idea blending it with vampires, I would blend it with werewolves and do beauty and the beast storytelling
Not keen on the modern monarchy idea as such... but a vampire one, I can get behind. 😊
Modern monarchy just makes sense with the way people play the sims. We love rags to riches, we love multi-generational legacies, we love grandiose love stories and/or scandalous affairs, we love drama. Imagine if it was kind of like Eco Lifestyle where depending on the laws you enact you could dramatically change the actual world around you, making it run down and crime-ridden or peaceful and prosperous(I know that modern monarchs are usually figureheads so that might not make sense but it would be a missed opportunity for more interesting gameplay I think). I also imagine it being kind of like My Wedding Stories in the CAS and Build/Buy categories with representation for multiple different cultures, it would be lame if it was based on the British royal family, Asia has more modern monarchies than Europe after all.
While I don't think it's a we issue- I agree many do play rags to riches. Thanks for your perspective
I worry it will be based on the British fam- but hope it isn't because I think there would be a lot of potential elsewhere
All in all I sort of understand why these ideas are in the lead, because they are a reflection of what is trending in the current pop culture.
The "Modern Monarchy" just screams British Royalty or Bridgerton in modern times. Horses could been perfect for the elite "exotic pets", though I'm not too sure how the rest of the pets fit with the whole concept of the royalty and the ultra rich.
The 80s/90s look pretty cool (though the fashion reminds me of the Retro fit Kit?), I'm thinking people are feel nostalgic more than ever. Even for Gen Z, who are not even BORN in these decades, have an urge to reenact the mid to late 20th century aesthetics.
Tiktok/Instagram had a sudden boom on family van life, who refurbish trailers/bus/vans to livable spaces.
OH dear. as someone who spends no time on TikTok, (and doesn't like Bridgerton) it is clicking now... you're probably right ha
@@SimmerErin I don't have tiktok but I am surrounded by people who talked about it so yeah I regrettably have this educated guesses lol.
@@westanimesims nah, I think you're right!
What would Bridgerton in modern times even be? Without the odd rules around courtship and inheritance, isn’t that just rich people deciding who to make out with at parties?
I’m a Brit so yes I see the pack reflecting Bridgerton but not current British monarchy. Only really as a wish for the opulent lifestyle of the past.
Modern monarchy got top spot? I really don’t understand the Sims community sometimes. That was definitely last place for me.
Exactly just play the sims medieval if you want recycled content
Ikr
I think it'd be interesting to ask more about who really wants it, since I am not coming from that perspective
@Sofus-fu4ro It would be slightly more modern than medieval times. Also, while I like The Sims medieval, it's very quest oriented. Monarchies exist today as well, with less power.
@@thesimslover82884 if I can play the danish monarchies then count me in
I loved the 80’s 90’s retro mall pack but I also reeeaaally wanted the crime and ocean expansion packs to score higher as they sound like really cool packs plusss heellooo a possible Kraken there’s nothing more cool then that imo
we always have to take these results with a grain of salt but I am curious about the low score for the ocean one, maybe people feel bummed out by Sulani and don't want to try again
@@SimmerErin i do agree. i feel like as a whole the packs and expansions for S4 have been very hit and miss. at least to somebody relatively new to the franchise.
Really ppl...modern monarchy in 2024? Lol. It's not medieval monarchy guys...
Tbh I'm not super Compelled by the mall idea either its another v American feeling concept?
I loved the on the road and apocalypse survival ones personally. The customisable camper van thing sounded really fun and it also came with the idea of elder sims getting more focus which Im in dire need of! And the apocalypse stuff is just bc i love the drama and the resource management haha
I know it's not medieval, but since we're not getting medieval... I just settled for modern... I'm assuming most people did...
Right!! Like we can already “shop Luxury “ “pretend we’re rich” and “engage in rivalry”
It would just be recycled content nothing new
Yes!
hot take: but why not monarchy in an era that isn't medieval OR. modern? Those both feel so overdone imo. But still I say a spin off. I don't see it in sims 4.
in a way yes, though I'd say that pack is very much a throw back to sims 2 and sims 3.
There was also too the fact that depending on how you answered, your survey would ask you more questions. I feel less like the community actually voted for a new pack and more like EA wanted to see if the expansion pack they were working on would be popular. My pick was the crimes and heist pack, I miss my burglars!
always hard to say. it may be one is in development now and others are not. I bet we will see a fair few of these at least
My faves were Crime and Malls as I think they would bring fresh gameplay opportunities. Guess my 3rd choice would be Van living...could be interesting if you could run maybe a food truck incorporating other packs like Home Chef Hustle. Thanks Erin for showcasing the poll results❤👍
welcome! hey theft at the mall goes well together ha
Yeah it would. I wasn't into the van life one, but I see how there could be lots of potential neat pack integration, if they chose to pursue it
I don’t seem to be on the majority here. All the most voted packs are, in my opinion, the ones with the littlest and most boring content :/
which excite you most
I totally agree with you
Yes! I’m actually so surprised by these results. The crime pack would’ve brought so much new game play for sims 4, especially with it already being so vanilla.
I would agree. Monarchy = celebrities, malls might be fun I guess but For Rent still isn’t working right so would they really succeed at multiple retail on one lot? And van life… yes I want more for seniors, but not van life. 🤷🏼♀️
I liked the exploration and dinosaur fossils with more interactive museums and maybe sleep away camp although I was a bit concerned about what happens to the rest of the household when you send a kid to camp. Could you swap between the two, or are you stuck at camp the whole time the kid’s there?
Agreed
I have zero interest is modern monarchy. I knew it was going to win. I really wanted crime. The game needs more consequences and unexpected things to interfere with your sims.
That Modern Monarchy Pack sounds more like a spin off then a pack. Like how does it either mesh with the existing game or how it is cut off from it so that there is no bleed over? Worlds are not isolated after all, they all bleed into each other. Will Royalty, like celebrities, be turning up at the dumpster when your sims in dumpster diving in Evergreen Harbor?
I hope not but it's the Sims 4. I want a monarchy pack BC I'm not ever gonna play Sims medieval. I have no interest in it. I know the pack will bring something new to the game and it sounds expansion pack worthy if it's well executed.
I'd say I'd at least think it should be a cut off world from the rest of the game, but idk.
Like Batuu is basically cut off
If the celebrities of Del Sol Valley and the dreadful JUDITH WARD is any indication, these Royal NPCs will show up in places they will never step into realistically, which will be both comical and frustrating.
@@westanimesims Yeah its funny the first two times Celebs show up where they shouldn’t be and then its just annoying. Really a lot of EP ideas they have would be great in the Sims 4 format as SPIN OFFS like Castaway and Mideviel had been but its like they are afraid of anything Sims 4-like that isn’t a Sims 4 pack shoved into the Sims 4 game at large.
It would also probably run better as a spin off game since it wouldn’t be loading ALL of Sims 4, most of which isn’t relevant to royalty play, in addition to the contents of the pack. Especially since this is a concept played better in isolation anyway, just make it its own game.
@@TheDawnofVanlife Honestly if the Batuu game pack is a spin off I wouldn't be so upset back in 2020.
I think a lot of packs in Sims 4 should be spin offs. Strangerville or Jungle Adventure are the ones come to mind.
About Medieval Monarchy - what if they do it in a form of live show? The new world would be a fake kingdome and you could come there and take a role of royal knight or queen's/king's confidant or maybe even a ruler. As a knight you can take part in knight tournament, maybe royal hunt etc. As a ruler you can make decisions through dialog and see different outcomes in a form of cards (like in rabbit hole activities). As a confidant you can handle some private matters with nobility (maybe some diplomacy, delivering correspondence? ). And we definitely need a masquarade ball and a royal dinner and a court jester and.. So classic medieval monarchy but in kinda cartoonish form. This way it could fit Sims 4 timeline and cause less controversy.
Not a native English speaker but I hope the general idea is understandable.
so here it is modern monarchy
Your idea is really interesting though! Yes, I do understand it! I won't lie: the masquerade ball is something that would really appeal to me, in whatever pack
@@SimmerErin yeah "modern" part is what really frustrates me. I desperately wanted medieval pack for years and now it's "modern". I don't think there is a chance they will ever give us something like Sims Medieval so my idea is just a compromise.
As an anti-monarchist I was least interested in that pack (sounds possibly quite Get Famous-y in terms of game mechanics). I hope that by offering a van-life pack that they are in fact going to adapt the game to finally include vehicle gameplay. Certainly going to be seeking a refund if they drop that expansion and don't update the game to include vehicles. The 80s/90s theme calls to me - I hope I'm not projecting my desire to be able to recreate Sims 1 vibes through use of it. Considering EA's track record I won't get my hopes up.
PREACH!!!!!
I agree that it sounds like there are intersections with get famous.
no clue what they would do with van life.. feels like a wildcard
ah, you're allowed to project or want a pack for whatever reason
Not keen on the monarchy thing either. Like I said on Erin's other video, unless we can have revolutions! 😂
Someone here said they'd like it for their vampires, which I could get behind.
It wouldn't be a pack I'm rushing into unless there's more than just rich family drama.
I love sims worlds, so I'd look into that, but I'm a part apocalypse voter.
I don't think they CAN adapt the game to include driveable cars and other vehicles, at least not without redoing the entire engine. The current engine simply was not designed to handle them (and the worlds weren't either, for that matter).
This is so disappointing. Game already has lots of both modern and luxury, monarchy would only matter if you had something big to run and I dont see that happening. All the more unique ideas get pushed aside for more of the same and we just end up with the game feeling stale. I know unique packs are hard cause they aren't for everyone and get review bombed for it, but there are no life Sims as close as the Sims to covering a variety of themes, cultures and settings. Maybe they should just set up a new team dedicated to Spin-Offs like The Sims Medieval and Castaway. At the very least, I hope they favor the Retro Mall over the Modern Monarchy one, its unique enough and sounds much nicer than the rest of the top 5 (On the Road/Heists sound like nice ideas but probably very limited in what they can do with them in this game).
I agree with this so much. We need more unique stuff
I will always say, packs should vary of course, because we have different things we enjoy. and some packs just wont' be for everyone, so I do hope to see a more so called risky pack too
@@CasualMurf i have to admit out of the 9 pack ideas, the 2 of them should be in a spin-off one (one of them is a monarchy one, i don't mind having them, just not in The Sims 4 in itself, the other being the extreme one, if not mistaken the "post apocalyptic" pack idea)
But that's just my opinion
I went with the retro mall theme and also the ocean exploration theme because it mentioned an underwater world. I wrote in the comment section that if they went that pack it would be a good time to refresh and expand the mermaids in the Sims 4.
yeah if they ever do it that would be the time
I voted for the modern monarchy and apocalypse, but I kinda missed the “modern” part😬 I just really want to have royal families for my fantasy save files, I wish they’d went for a more medieval tone, but I guess the excuse for not doing that is that we got a kit for it🙄An apocalypse themed pack is right up my alley, the “rags to riches” types of challenges where you have to start from the ground up have always intrigued me and I’d love a full on survival challenge.
I have a hard time understanding why 80’s and the on the road concepts are so high up, they just seem incredibly generic.
I'd guess the main concern is integrating it into a game (for going modern) or maybe they felt it would be easier to make ? always curious to see how they come up with their ideas
These were my exact votes too 😄
I think it's pretty disgusting that this survey isn't available to every simmer. I have been playing the Sims since Sims 1 and I have yet to get access to ANY of these kinds of surveys.
The survey was opened to the public for a limited time, I found it on a TH-camrs description
it's a common thing to do: a random sampling. But I agree I wish it was sent out for everyone to take. I only got to take the official survey because someone tagged me on twitter. would not have known about it
It was open to all. Unfortunately for me i got a call that i couldnt ignore right when i opened the survey and so i wasny able to vote.
I got there through a link from a sims TH-camr. It would have been nice if it was easier to find, but it was available to everyone. I miss them putting this on the home screen in the game, though
I had access to it via TS4 Main Screen, but it didn't show until yesterday. I always had the setting to show me any in-game surveys so it's strange it took so long
What?!? Retro pack with landline phones malls babysitting newspapers & awesome retro stuff to make our parent & grandparents houses etc is waaaayyyy better😫😤 -thought it would have won for sure...should'a voted more than once but I forgot to go back to it😣😭😞. (& I extremely dislike fake snobby monarchy😕) (...Also would have liked retro to include 70s & 60s items & clothes & wallpapers & flooring as well.😶🌫️..maybe in a future survey, after they make 80s 90s EP.🤞)
that was def my top pick but hey I was surprised to even see it come in second
My gut instinct says a royal pack is already at least in works from concept as it's kind of been hinted at in many ways plus in lore we have princess Cordelia but I mean if Sims 4 is where they are hedging all there bets and sticking around for years to come all of these could make the cut at some point. To me, some sound more like game pack ideas or should be expansion pack refreshes. I really wish they'd also put out a write-in poll for future development because I think some of us in the community have much better ideas! 😂 when I saw the full description of the fossil pack it did sound interesting like an African or middle east inspired land to discover lost history and have proper museums is needed and the seaside theme could be fun if they had lore like jaws Amity Harbor but I also really want real drama and consequences and more sims spawning where appropriate. High school years said drama and I still am like where's the drama? I still don't understand why sims 2 gameplay mechanics can't make into sims 4. Maybe that's a topic you can explore :)
Modern Monarchy could be the first expansion that I won't get, I think the theme has nothing to offer for me
@@Sandra-86 I haven't brought either of the last 2 expansions packs so I get it and for me I would have preferred it to be more medieval than modern-based, but I guess they feel they did that already! I used to just buy them all, but I am at the point if I am not that interested, or it seems buggy and broken upon release I either won't get it at all or hold out until it's at least 50 percent off during a sale! :)
hard to say. I agree there is a lot of lore so to speak they could build from if they wanted to
I have a theory that eps have been downsized. You see, they have cost $40 since 2014 and a lot of games have raised their prices/. so we could be seeing a shinkflation issue. I'd like objective means to measure that though and idk it's been even for all packs that way
AHH okay, I did like the thought of unpacking local history in a place we haven't gotten before, so that helps me understand the appeal more
agree.. HSY doesn't really have drama ha
WE NEED A BAND PACK
bands was on the 2020 survey. my bet is they are already making it, and the ones we see here we'd see a long bit in the future.
I really wanted a Expansion pack where Egypt comes back from the Sims 3 World Adventures, I also like the Pack 8 & 9 stuff too.
Sleeper Camp and 90s Mall were the ones i wanted the most, and i wrote full paragraphs on the survey about why i thought theyd be great. 90s mall for more in-game 'gaming' content (tabletop. More boardgames. Arcade machines.) And Sleeper camp because we really have very, very little specific children's content
bringing tabletop games honestly makes sense, especially since they are popular now too. and could make for a great club if you have get together
80s/90s Mall and Sleepaway Camp are my picks. They both seem cute and nostalgic (And I love 70s-90s aesthetics) but also actually seem like something that could be used and played with often across multiple families and generations. Modern Monarchy seems like the kind of thing I probably wouldn't even buy but if I did I'd play through it once and then never really touch the mechanics again.
I missed the survey-oh no! In my opinion, they should have given us more time to create a larger sample size. Ugh! Anyway, since Sims 4ever isn’t going away, I’d love to see all the game pack themes eventually! Hopefully, they’re just prioritizing which ones to develop first.
Even though I missed out, I’m perfectly fine with what others chose as their favorite pack themes. Personally, I’d love a royalty-themed pack where my Sims could have servants catering to them. I remember the funeral of Prince Philip, and I envision an entire world inspired by Windsor Castle, complete with a castle town.
I have to admit, I can’t quite picture how they would execute a van life pack, but I’m curious to see what they come up with. I really hope cars are a given by the time that pack is released!
so this is from sims community's results and may or may not reflect proportions from the official survey which we prob will never know. hard to say how well it correlates
and yes, it is possible it is a matter of priority. surveys are weird.. you will see a really old idea pop back up as a possibility years later. hard to say.
Oof. Sims 4 is 10 years old... It feels nostalgic. People were really excited about the idea of a Sims five announcement, and now people are hype for an 80s / 90s expansion. One of the most recent kits focused on the early 2000s for cas. -_- I'm just so tired of moving backwards chronologically. Personally, I didn't even care much for it... But the on the road theme would have given elders something to do, a very underserved Sims category.
From what I've noticed in discussions, the Retro theme isn't desired for nostalgia or aesthetics per say. It's instead players being aware what TS4 is both capable of and can't fail even with its usual barebones expansion habits as of late, moreso when knowing how it should be cross-play compatible and still make functional sense (even if TS4's Expansions aren't necessarily capable of it). Also, it's the least likely to feel much like a pack that should've already been included in a far earlier pack. eg, Modern Monarchy is Get Famous 2.0 🤷♀
But I agree it's pathetic they're too lazy to create a long-lasting engine for TS5, and instead trying to continue forcing TS4's mobile-designed engine to last forever. I never expected Rene to be TS5, but I was really hoping it was the experimental project for the sake of developing TS5's core coding. Regardless, they're still trying the MMO route and it'll bite them in the bum if they truly canceled TS5 and aren't trying to psych us out by claiming TS4 is 4ever - and that's being skeptical they're trying that hard lol
hm, I feel like sims 4 has tons of modern stuff too though, more so than it does older content . But depending on one's age, people will have a different idea of what old means..
@@SimmerErin thank you for taking your time and replying, I know you don't have to poke through all these comments and it means a lot. For me, we have a lot of packs that could use touch ups. Some designs are dated, and that's actually really great. If I want to make a room that looked like rooms looked in my highschool days, I can whip up something from 2010. Pastel pop, highschool, throwback, maybe some dream home decorator and get together stuff for good measure. It's when the skandi style just started getting big... But say I switch gears and I want to make a 1910's art nouveaux room. It's a little harder but I can use relm of magic, University, and the new bistro kit... With a little elbow grease I can age anything to the right decade, I could probably make a mall too... But I can't recreate gameplay ... Do I think creating a 'mall' lot is a cool idea, yeah. Would I make an outdoor market for contemporary builds because that's what's replacing them in real life currently.... Also yeah. I can't recreate ramen shops or board games stores as easily as I can make a place look like one. I can't as a PlayStation user mod in those things. But if I have to choose between the mall concept, or possibly adding a driving mechanic and giving elders some more fun stuff to do... I feel like even if I as a build mode centric simmer don't benefit from all that new gameplay, the van life expansion is way more unique then modern royalty or the retro mall. You know? It's not really my fight 😁 but even though that's the case, I can recognize that it's more expansive on a narrative level. (If ea can actually pull it off and give the description justice in game. )
Tbh I feel like we’ll get most of these at some point. With the other surveys we ended up getting much of the content from the surveys anyways despite what we voted for.
agreed. Idk we will get all, but I highly doubt we're only getting one or two ; in the past they indeed have checked off many ideas.
But I do think they take votes into consideration: they may eliminate a few and decide how and what to prioritize. the official survey also asked if you felt more or less interested after seeing the full descriptions, so they are prob trying to figure out marketing and also what to include in each pack they decide to do
Dang I really wanted 80s/90s to win. So close. Modern monarchy honestly sounds so lame to me, we already have so many modern luxury packs it feels like.
with surveys like this, the team almost always completes several of them- so they wouldn't likely pick just one winner here, even with whatever the official results say
@@SimmerErin oh that’s good news. I think there’s so many cool and refreshing options here. I hope they make a few of these for sure!
I feel like we've been asking for a Band EP for a loooong time, and they didn't even include it as an option in the poll. They have to know we want it.
They already surveyed us on it. surveys often comes years before a pack is released
Wow this is very interesting for me to see how many people want a MODERN monarchy pack. Personally I wouldn't have voted for it because while it could actually be cool I don't know how easily it could be blended in with Sims 4 and all of the other packs plus I feel like its going to be European again but if there's going to be people that going to be happy with them I should be happy for them too! Have a good week Erin! 👑
yeah it's one of my last places, prob only above fossil hunting. agree it'd most likely be well prob UK inspired...
You have a good week too!
ocean exploration must be a Island paradise refresh !!! I won't pay 40 for a refresh
It was my second choice. It wasn't island paradise refresh. If you selected the option as one of your 3 choices it gave a long description of the 3 you picked. In the long description it made it clear it would come with a coastal Maine type world. Would feature lighthouses, submarines, scuba diving, and exploring underwater caves and shipwrecks for buried treasure.
@@Foodisgood I understand why it ended being in the bottom rank
I do wish they hadn't taken refreshes off the table
None of those options is remotely interesting to me.
on the whole survey is the top choices?
Everything included in the pie chart looked so absolutely boring to me, especially for something like and Expansion Pack.
@@hannelinorrgard2403 what ideas would you like to see?
i want the 80s/90s mall so bad omgggg
I mainly build in Sims 4 & in the survey I voted the Mall & Modern Monarchy as my tops, so I'm pleastly suprise by Sims Community poll winners. This two would be great for building (just my opinion, of course). Mall is quite obvious (ideally being fully customizable lot type), but let me dive into monarchy.
If you look up list of current monarchy in our world - a lot of them are sultanats & emirates, an arab monarchies. That would be a great opportunity to add more representation, if the sims team don't want to go classic British-based route (but knowing how popular Britain Royal Family is, they might do so of course). With basing the pack around arab monarchy, we could get a new desert type world (not based on USA for once), that Courtyard Oasis Kit would fit perfectly. Also furniture less tacky than the Get Famous ones, but still patterned, using paisley & moroccan clover with bold colors as well as neutral swatches.
For gameplay I can see maybe some more mature, drama inducing themes (balls&banquets as new party types we can plan, arranged mariages, of-screen assasinations of royals) being introduced if it possible to do so while still keeping PG14 rating. Also new skills/hobbies - such as archery, competitive shooting/hunting, golf. For pets I imagine mainly birds - hunting ones (falcon, eagle), good looking ones for gardens (peacock, flamingo) & singing/talking ones (parrot, canary) - each type with small, new gameplay like teaching parrots to speak or training falcons in hunting. Possibly expanded/better genalogy trees & inheritance in base game update right before Monarchy pack since legacy stuff seems kind of important for royals? But the more I'm thinking of it, it seems to be more fiting to become a game pack, closed to one world (like Strangerville storyline for example), rather than an expansion pack with possibility to have royal families in every world.
My picks were 80s/90s, Sleepaway camp, and van living. I'm a total sucker for the 80s/90s everything, the camp felt like it would add more to the kid life stage, and the van pack makes me think they might add cars and that's been a desperate need for the sims 4
I believe like you said, someone refreshed over and over. I really liked the ocean, on the road and 80s/90s mall the greatest. So did my husband.
one person of course would not make a big difference but many people doing it, yes. It would be ideal if they could prevent that. course, the team themselves will have the official results
Sleepaway camp gave me gravity falls ,scooby doo vibes whit the idea of childs discovering myths and mysterys in there
My second option was apocalypse would be really fun to manage a survival camp
The fossil hunting,coral reefs gave subnautica vibes imagine diving in winderburg and saying hi to Ness or building a house"base" underwater
At first when I first saw "Monarchy" and "pets", my thought immediately went to the Baby Dragons in Dragon Valley from TS3. But then I realized it was "Modern" Monarchy NOT Medieval Monarchy, so who knows what kind of pets could really come with it coz I am honestly really clueless what other pets that could belong to a royal family other than what we already have in the game?
With that being said tho, I STILL AM, WAITING FOR SMALL PETS TO COME BACK 😭 Tbh, I have been waiting for Birds, Rodents, Turtles, Lizards, Snakes, etc. to return since Cottage Living! I know we kinda got better birds with Cottage Living (compared to the Bird Feeder in Backyard Stuff), but I still wish they were not lumped together in a flock and we could bond individually with one of them. We also kinda already have Rodents with My First Pet Stuff, idk I guess I just miss the ability to run into them in the world / neighborhood and adopt them similar to how it worked back then in The Sims 3. That part was so much fun to me, I pray every day for it to return and for Small Pets to come back 😭
yeah, I guess there is always a possibility they add a magical realism element to it though it does't seem like it.
I do think maybe small pets though there's that whole goofy exclusive issue
Maybe we can still have dragons as some kind of family heritage since Medieval times? Something like Game of Thrones/House of the Dragons but nowdays. If that's the case i hope we can get other mythological creatures as pets like Griffin, Hippogriff, (Medieval) Unicorn, Phoenix, cause i'm pretty sure seeing them while studying Europe's history and its monarchys, kingdoms, etc.
I voted for the paleontologist pack, i was hoping for dinosaurs and museums.
pet birds would be so amazing imo
any particular types of birds you'd like to see?
Great that's 40$ I get to keep then
did you like any of the themes?
@@SimmerErin oh absolutely but they ended up near the end, I'm so disappointed right now, for me the modern monarchy theme is the most boring out of them all 😢
@@Aeliciya that is my bottom two.
so one thing to cheer you up is that the official survey results are going to include so many more votes, and we don't know for sure how accurately this depicts how people voted
Right! I'm not disappointed.
I don't really understand the 80s/90s mall at all. For one thing will sims have to take a time machine to get there? Or will it literally just be a mall from the 80s or 90s since that is when most malls were built. A lot of the other ideas seem focused on a specific, detailed new gameplay feature, but this pack seems like it would just be a cluster of random little things... like drinking from a hose...? I would love to see different eras from recent history represented in the game but I expected them in a kit or a stuff pack at most.
No, I don't think it's going back in time. all of the things listed exist today. people and businesses still use landlines. tabletop games are widely played. malls exist. arcades exist. People still wear both 90s and 80s inspired fashion
@@SimmerErin yeah, I guess I don't quite see the vision. It could be good of course, particularly if it came along with a multi functional lots base game update.
I really want arcades as their own lot type. I also wish they would make bowling alleys their own type too tbh, I'm surprised they didn't when they first added it to the game
it seems originally that prob is how it would have gone, I;d guess, if it'd won the stuff pack vote
The survey also asked if there were mods that provide the same experiences they were suggesting in those EPs concepts. I'm glad that they are aware of them after what they did to TurboDriver, the whole attraction system implemented in Lovestruck is a WonderWhims/WickedWhims ripoff.
so I can't agree with this argument. such mods are based on past sims games and general concepts. The system in lovestruck is not the same as the mod, either
I didn't know they wanted our feedback on a new expansion. I would have told them I don't want any new expansions that cost more money, and I want them to fix the bugs and content from the base game and deepend the fundamentals and first packs for free.
Ugh I got bad flashbacks to Medieval now. I always eventually hit a gamebreaking bug that forced starting over and deleting my save file.
regardless, they will keep making eps because they decided to keep sims 4 going for many years. we did just get a huge patch, so hopefully those bug fixes will keep coming in such a manner
The monarch pack is kinda interesting but im afraid that will be like Star wars pack. If theres a world and build things, it will be just there. For the builders simmers, its amazing, but as gameplay people will play one or twice and leave it
The 80´s and 90´s pack, its interesting for community lots. Adds more stuff, a shopping mall with arcade stores and perhaps multiple floors with each floor a specific community lot? who knows. We already have the rent lots, why not use the same code for multiple lots...
The criminal, can add some gameplay like having a criminal job, and be active... we already have the crowbar animation with rent system. so why not use it, to enter in homes and steal things, to sell in some specific shop. Or why not connect with detective career? perhaps having a gang and commit small jobs till become the boss... having whoohoo clubs?
in some ways, I think the modern monarchy would work best like that pack: a closed off world. but I very much stand by it'd be way better as a spinoff
yes.. in theory I'd say the foundation for malls is there. prob is wise to use what you have to the extent you can
I agree the crime one likewise could use a lot of what we have and build up from there. very economical and wise to think that way
Crime and 80s mall was definitely the best ; I like monarchy but I don’t understand how on earth it won
I voted for the modern monarchy pack and the 80ies Mall pack. What a coincidence that both my picks are the most voted for. I guess I'm basic. lol
Dang was kinda hoping Cyberpunk would be more popular. But my #1 was definitely 80s/90s Mall. I just feel like so many "hang out" spots for Sims are just bars and I'd like more shops/arcades or at least the assets to build my own. I really think the exclusive pets might be what drove that one, I've definitely wanted pet birds/more smaller holdable pets, but the monarchy thing sounds boring to me. I almost never play with any aspect of celebrity stuff and I feel like its too close to that in my mind.
cyberpunk was my #2 ha. so I guess we voted the same.
I agree that the pets at least played some role here. I am not sue how I feel about the 'exclusive' idea though I understand it it in context
Modern monarchy is my top pick and is the one that I’ve suspected that is coming to the Sims 4 for a very long time now. People don’t want it or why people don’t see It’s perfect for the Sims is beyond me. a game that’s about legacy and generational building feels like it needs a monarchy.
Kinda sad fossil hunting is the least liked, was hoping for some dinosaurs in TS :D But, Modern Monarchy was another favourite, so I guess that's something.
actual dinosaurs, or fossils of them?
@@SimmerErin well, in this case just fossils but that’s actually better, the game’s already plenty wacky and supernatural, would prefer to keep it semi realistic
I would've liked the paleontology pack and have no interest in royalty or mall. But I've always been weird, so I'm not surprised😅
that's completely valid. It doesn't make you weird ❣
I’m really surprised the monarch one got as high as it did tbh
some have mentioned popular TV shows and I do think that could be a factor
A general question with no bad intent : why are so many Simmers hung up on having vehicles and driving in the sims ? What's so interesting about it ?
maybe they liked them in sims 2 which is also a closed world. the mechanic career, owning a car, building purposes.
I'll be real that I don't personally care about cars
can wait to see wealthy monarchs in willow creek or shabby community lots like judith
Yeah and that'll happen unless they essentially shut off the world like Idk batuu unless it's even by design another way: being able to select any world you can be a monarch over. not sure
I totally wanted crime. I hate that we have a clepto trait but there is no reprocussions from stealing. And then we have this Public Enemy aspiration which is kinda stupid without any reprocussions. The 80's and 90's mall thing... eh. I didn't like malls in real life. Doubt I'd care about them in The Sims.
I voted for the modern monarchy one and the dystopian future(Cyberpunk) one.😅
Although I still love and occasionally play the Sims Medieval, I am not at all interested in the gameplay of a ‘royalty’ pack. Modern royalty is about duty and service (at least in Europe it is), this pack description seems to be all about the power and wealth that comes with celebrity. In fact an extension of Get Famous 🤷🏻♀️ I hope, if they make it, that it at least pleases those that voted for it.
yeah I mostly am a little confused how it would be executed
Well that is disappointing results. Big props for that pie chart.
Guess my Nr 2 got second place and my nr 1 got second to last.
ha I had to have a chart, I def found it easier to look at than a list of percentages! The only upside I can tell you is these are very unofficial results, so who knows if it aligns well with the official results the team is getting
The chart was a very nice and informative visual piece by Erin.
glad it was helpful! It helps me personally vs looking at a list of percentages. I am very much a visual learner
I wanted the crime/justice stuff. I need more crime.. I use mods, but still. Come on. I don't care about the monarchy thing at all.
A question for you at the bottom if you read through.
I am not a Sims 4 player. I play Sims 3 (only) and farming sims games. With that being said, your channel has been my favorite out of Sims 4 channels I've tried. I've really enjoyed keeping up with the news and what might come next (that I may be interested in). But with this new news that Sims 4 is here to stay, I feel like the Sims is (almost) dead to me. I am also really curious what TH-camrs like you think.. Do you feel pessimistic about your continued coverage of the Sims or do you plan to stick this out forever? Would you switch over to covering other games more instead?
I'm just going to ride it out and see what I think. I'm a very anxious person by nature, so thinking ahead and worrying is something I am trying to work on. I def want to cover to see what rene is. and I already cover paralives and inzoi and am open to covering games as I see fit In the future. I may also do some retrospective reviews, gameplay etc as I have sims 2 and 3 instaled
in short, I don't know. I'm cool with continuing to cover sims 4 for now, and if I decide I don't want to, I won't
@@SimmerErin Okay. Thank you for the response. I will definitely continue to follow your coverage on Paralives. Ofc I wish you the best and am interested to see if you and other TH-camrs continue to cover Sims 4 at the same pace.
I voted Monarchy and Cyberpunk. Sad to see Cyberpunk so low.
* I would've liked medieval Monarchy but I'll take modern for the titles alone. Hopefully they'll show up as jobs because I never know what jobs to choose for royalty... I have a lot of (medieval / fantasy) stories with royalty sims. I hope I'll be able to more accurately play them.
For example, a son who can't inherit the throne because his step mother made it so he is disowned and cut off his ring fingers. He was sent in the war as a child and then became the army's general. The king dies, there's 3 children left from the stepmom - the eldest is killed in a war mistake after not listening to the general, the middle son is incompetent and the general will either support the youngest sister (as per his father's last wish) or usurp and take the throne himself.
I also have an Arthurian story, so I need a king and a consort. And so on, probably around 10ish stories and one of them takes the whole map of Henford.
* I also have a few cyberpunk stories; I used the Del Sol Valley map but doesn't really fit the aesthetic... oh well...
yeah, I honestly don't know how it'd work. I guess them being showcased as a career could make sense.. but there'd def need to be larger systems too.
Well that sucks. I voted for the van life and sleep away camp ones.
I'm not a huge fan of 2/3 of the top ones. Of course, we have to keep in mind that this may not be representative all of who voted in the official poll
Where was this survey? I didnt see it
the original official one, or the sims community one? (linked in my description)
There was an option that offered a Family Pack...Where is it?
do you mean the sleepaway camp?
@@SimmerErin Grow and develop Sims families. I thought it was referring to family and that's why I marked it. It comes on the 1st Page of the questionnaire.
@@maiapez6802 oh you may be talking abut the preliminary questions, which asks why you play sims 4 and what you can about most. that was before voting for the packs
@@SimmerErin Yes!!!
I hope we get better posiblitity to build homes that looks old. if they go for modern monarchies. after all it´s not like we got many new the last 100 years. so their buildings are going going to be old.
I take it you mean more classic architecture. Yes, that would make sense. and of course what it entails would depend on the culture/ region it's set in
Aw bummer, I loved the summer camp idea 😢
I wouldn't say it's out of the running for sure. team tends to take many ideas from a single survey eventually
I knew it! Everyone wants to be Rich! (Life styles of the Rich and Famous)
why is the pack i liked the least (monarchy) the one with the most votes. figures 😄
That would be my last or second to last pick too
Im a 90s kid, but i want the van life pack. 🤷🏼♀️☺️
ha that's fair. what excites you most about that pack
@@SimmerErin elder activities, for one. But the concept of van life (even highly limited as it likely will be) is so fun. I'm hoping it comes with a campground style lot to park the vans. I'd love to give Bella Goth a travel van for her missing years. 😁
@@jomorris807 van life is on my top 3, also coming from a 90's kid (born in late 90's)
I don't care for the cars in itself but i love when it said "elder activities" and travel to other worlds to learn and experience stuff😍😍
Why does all of them have to be expansion packs? What happened to game packs? Most of these concepts would be better as a game pack than a full of expansion
not sure. too soon to say if game packs are gone . however, I don't recall surveys for game packs generally speaking
I forgot to go vote😥
I would get bored with monarchy
I didnt want to pick royalty cause i feel like it would be too european. I would want them to include africa(a entire widely diverse continent completely left out) but i feel people would find a way to say this is bad
they def COULD pursue other regions but I do guess that it most likely would be Uk based
@@SimmerErin thats what i expect also, i think what i mean is they should include royal clothes from different regions, and not 1-2 and the rest being the UK
I need the sims community to grow out of the medieval vibe. The trend is over babe.
this is modern monarchy.
I don't see it as a ephemeral trend either even though I wouldn't vote for it for a sims main game
1:10 I knew nothing about the poll or the content of the expansion packs when I commented. But just from the titles alone, I'd actually pick Modern Monarchy. I love playing over multiple generations. It seems like this pack could add gameplay features that are available all the time, affecting gameplay as a whole. (I don't have many packs, but Get Together is still my favourite. I use/abuse clubs all the time)
Some of the packs sound interesting, but they should be stuff packs or, with enough unique objects, game packs. These are 80s/90s, Cyberpunk.
Then are are packs that sound cool but also sound like a gimmicky map that I will visit only once or twice: Ocean Exploration.
And the rest just ... doesn't interest me.
thanks for sharing that! I def am keen on leaning more about why people selected monarchy as a top choice.
It's tricky for me to say what should be what kind of pack but most to me feel either like a spin off or a game pack. But I kinda wonder if game packs will still exist
I really like the crime/heist one. It could've merged with the modern monarch one too, either be a rich monarch or a robin hood in modern times for example. I also really like the 80/90s mall one as well.
crime.. at the 80/90s mall
I really wanted the cyberpunk and dystopian packs and now I’m sad.
those would be tied for my number two picks
Yup that + oceans would have been so nice
These were literally my top two I’m sad too 😭
The dystopian one seems interesting, but I am nervous about the implementation of it. A lot of these are "well it depends on the how the team actually executes it"
Honestly the cyberpunk could've combined with both the criminal AND the apocalyptic pack (they're just subparts of cyberpunk). 🥲 The ocean exploration was my second pack because it would've added so much AND probably would've seen mermaids refreshed.
Mall is important as a lot type because then we can probably put restaurants coffee shops cinemas etc all together in one lot and have it all be functional 😢
I'd still say if they did that though a bg update for multifunctional may be possible
now I do think some things- like the cinema- would be rabbit holes.
We also of course run into the issue of only so many sims spawning per lot
Yeah, I wondered if that was coming after For Rent. Since they found a way for different households to live in the same lots, I assume that multiple businesses types in the same lot is coming soon.
I already try to build the lot with residental rental lot just above the community places as a multi functional lot
Hopefully with the 80's/90's pack they add multi-functional lots but also like each community in 1 lot (clothes store, restaurant, pet store to name a few)
Or the household running a business while they lives just above where they works (it's realistic, or atleast where i live)
I'm definitely in for the 80's/90's pack😁😁👍
I’m Absolutely Flabbergasted That The Apocalypse Option Is So Low In The Rankings
Same. Also the cyberpunk one. Those two were more unique than what we've had in the past, same with fossil hunting honestly though I don't know how it could work as an EP, maybe an SP would work best. They all seem really unique and we can't exactly replicate them using mods or things that exist in the game already (I am certain there's a way to make royalty already with what we have using clubs and the fame system, even malls we can already make and either download mods or utilise clubs and such for jobs).
We need crime. There's no balance without some chaos!
do agree that sims would benefit if there was more chaos added
I'm kinda hopeful about chaos after Lovestruck. That pack is WEIRD but in a real Sims way that could open doors for more wacky stuff in the future
Modern Monarchy was my least favorite. Sounds like a different version of celebrities. Nothing new or fresh added to the game.
same, I just don't see it add something really that wonderful to the game. the more interesting aspects: like rivals or power.. that feels very spin off to me
you hear so many voices begging for more actual gameplay but then this is the most popular in a survey, the one with the least gameplay possibilities
yeah luxury life without cars, again.
that EP would be another one made out of thin air, you have it but you can play without it
That part! So many ppl like to do family line challenges they should put more effort into and old timey monarchy before a modern one. They just need an expansion to the political career I feel and some old timey base game items
If it wasn’t modern I’d be into it. If we could get a medieval pack that would be fun
Judging by the pie chart, it's painfully clear that I'm not the core audience of that franchise anymore... my most favorite concepts were Apocalypse and Cyberpunk XD
A lot of those pack ideas brought up things that don't particularly belong together, but certainly had individual appeal (like elder people having gameplay in... On The Road, which is totally unrelated !), and it clearly played a part in the votes you used as a basis for this video.
The pets for Modern Monarchy could be fantasy pets (like dragons for instance). Personally I'd be game for political stuff that has an incidence on the world (Eco Living is already about activitism that changes the world, but its policies are limited to certain things and individualizes a lot of behaviors), but at the same time I know TS4 would probably never give me political intrigue with any kind of substance...
Meanwhile the 80s/90s Mall idea is, like, exactly what I expect that game to execute fairly well, by adding lot types, jobs and activities, but no actual gameplay that adds to the *mechanics* we already know. It adds content that's easy to add to the pile, without making anything more interesting. That said, adding an entire world that's a giant mall, where each neighborhood is a different floor, and the various lots are stores/restaurants, would absolutely be a great idea ; it would make the food court doable in a way similar to the festivals, too. Sadly I don't think EA would ever come up with something that original. Overall TS4 really should experiment with worlds a lot more imho, like the underwater pack they suggested should be an underwater village where you can live in giant bubbles, come on ! How did they miss that idea, when someone made concept art for it YEARS ago ! Try a little, EA. You can't just say "drama" and expect people to be pleased with the bare minimum.
That's actually a huge red flag for me, when EA uses "drama" in a description for a pack. I know it's just going to be soap opera levels of BS, without any consequences, and that stuff has zero appeal to me. I don't want more drama, I want more depth. It's very different.
I voted for cyberpunk as my second choice, which was basically tied with apocalyptic if I could have voted three. I can't say for sure what conclusions to draw.. since this is indeed a small sample here.
But some mentioned that the most popular ones winning are tied to eh TikTok trends ha sooo that would make me out of the loop too.
Drama in of itself sounds great but yes it really at this point is a buzzword
Yeah I REALLY want cyberpunk - it's a niche that's completely missing in life sims! There's one in the works, but I DO NOT like its visual style.
@@christabelle__ In TS2 it was really easy to use an empty world to create something apocalyptic or futuristic or sciencefictiony. But with TS4 having so much detail in the worlds, you can't pretend you're on another planet or in a dystopian world, so a themed DLC feels more necessary. Like what am I going to do, pretend I have a Cyberpunk society in the middle of Oasis Springs' decor ?
It was clear from the get go that Sims 4 isn't really made to address all preferences and to make your stories. Since the worlds are premade, you get severely limited by the stories that could be told there OR you use CC and try to ignore and pretend. It's all around mainstream generic modern day life. Fantasy / medieval / sci fi and so on have almost nothing aside from the occult packs. I also voted cyberpunk btw, sad it's almost last...
@@Crisalpha Agreed. The game was promoted around the concept of "telling our own stories", but it also limits where and how more than any of the three that came before it. I don't expect medieval stuff (or any historic stuff, in fact ; the castle kit came as a surprise to me) because of how embedded a certain level of technology is in the gameplay (mainly the phones, but not just them), which would make it necessary to create huge workarounds that we all know EA will never invest in. However for futuristic stuff, it feels like it should be doable, I don't know.
In any case, yeah, TS4 has been a disappointment for me, as a player who had done so many sci-fi stories in TS2 for instance.
Aww man! I wish more people voted for ocean exploration.
I wish I could know the reasons why everyone voted as they did. I think that would be really interesting
I thought about voting it for it but I figured I wouldn't have liked the implementation. Very few games pull off underwater exploration right and I doubt sims would have been one of them.
Yeah I really like houseboats
@@Crisalpha I completely agree I was so disappointed when island living came out and it was so lack luster. When I was like 13 sims 3 island paradise was so good. The whole owning a resort concept was so cool and felt so rewarding when you hit 5 star resort status, also I actually felt sims 3 did the underwater really well. Not to mention 13 year old me shitting my pants and freaking out on my houseboat when a kraken would swim under. As much as I would like this on the sims 4 they already did the island pack and knowing how buggy all the expansions are on release id rather we just get a expansion that is based on something we haven’t already gotten.
@@SimmerErin ok.I voted for the van and the camp I love road trips and I loved the Camping idea for kids
i voted for the 80s/90s mall and cyberpunk. im so gagged that cyberpunk is the second least voted.. cmon yall
ha that was my exact vote
The idea of a modern monarchy is great. Pet wise I was thinking more exotic, I want lions and tigers. Modern Princess Jasmine. But I don't really expect them to do this.
I also really loved the crime/ heist idea. Specifically the vigilante part. The ability to create heroes and villains is a want. That's drama and action. As long as it's implemented well.
yeah I was surprised even when they added llamas to the game but of course there was a lot in cottage living tied to stalls. only larger animals we got were horses and as we know they did a whole ep for them. so I am guessing they'd be small- but I could be wrong.
I liked the Modern Monarchy and the Cyberpunk ideas. I’m not surprised that the majority of the sims community isn’t into cyberpunk, but man it would have been so cool.
yeah it doesn't surprise me terribly either. I did vote for that one too
Man, Cyberpunk would have been my top pick, if I'd done this! I LOVE Cyberpunk stuff, and it's something that's lacking in the market - ESPECIALLY in life sims...there are none. There is one in the works, but the style is like...Minecraft/Roblox except for the humans, who are high rez - it's not my favorite blend of styles. The Sims 4 doing Cyberpunk wouldn't be perfect, but it would be better than the literal nothing that exists for Cyberpunk Life Sims. If they got the world in game, and set up the systems...modders could pick up the slack, at the least! Kinda bummed that it's almost in last place. :( (Cyberpunk also often comes with a lot of 80s aesthetics as part of the genre, it's the retro-futurism aspect of it - so it would do double-duty! xD And hey, there's always an aspect of underground crime in Cyberpunk too - so it covers ANOTHER of those packs! >_>)
Cyberpunk and ap. were my tied two so I get it (for second place, but voted cyberpunk). I think it'd feel potentially fresh
The mall pack is both a different theme than typical and seems to need different mechanics, which would bring something fresh to the game.
The fossil hunting is just base game + Jungle Adventure, so unsurprising it wasn't really popular.
My favorite was the sleepaway camp because I've been longing for the pack Outdoor Retreat could have been, plus it'd be lovely to have more specific gameplay dedicated to children (not just one off interactions in larger packs.)
With the crime pack, I just don't think the Sims 4 has the capacity to introduce the gameplay consequences to make this pack fun and worth itmn
The sleep away pack I can see the appeal. I'll be annoying and say it feels a lot more game pack esque (but those arguments always happen ha). Sims 4 crime pack I agree that there are areas of it I am a little skeptical of
Im fine with sims team taking inspo and gameplay from mods, like that i dont have to worry about said mods breaking my game every single time an update happens.
tbh I don't think they are really looking at mods anyway... a lot of mods (not all) are based on ether community wishes or past games and usually both
Fossil hunting with 5% 😂 i fossil hunt around western Pennsylvania to eastern Ohio and West Virginia. All Carboniferous and early Permian unless you go north west Pa and most of Ohio are Devonian ocean. I think the sims 4 has enough fossils. I still want better jobs. A rework of the hospital and police jobs. This survey has a bunch of neat ideas that all could be fun if done well. Having turtles 🐢 as pets would be awesome and ramen shops got me interested. Whatever we get I’ll be ok with it. Malls are a definite must for the sims 4 if once again done right. Sims 3 would handle a mall better with the open world game play. Food court vs just having food stalls could be great if done right. Some great ideas here. Hope you’re doing well and have a great week!
oh no way! whereabouts in eastern ohio? that's cool.
yeah, I just don't see it adding much novel to the game
agreed... I do find myself often thinking x would be better with an open world
of course then again sims 3 had many things as rabbit holes with that open world .
@@SimmerErin south east on the West Virginia side is where I look a lot since it’s late Carboniferous to early Permian. The app Rockd is a good resource for finding what geological formations you’re in but it doesn’t tell you which horizon of sedimentary rock it is. I use Rockd to talk to museums and universities around the nation. You’ll find mainly sea life around most of Ohio unless you’re done in the Kanawha group then it’s a combination of sea, coal swamps and river systems and delta systems ranging from 330 million to 285 million years in age
I went for the van and the ocean options. The van might bring cars and driving for once and all. The ocean I was dreaming for an Atlantis world where you live in a fictional modern underwater city. I know that will probably never happen but hey one can dream. If they do the modern monarchy I wish the make it based in a Dubai/ Arab monarchy, the pets can be lions and cheetah, they do that in Dubai, they also have lots of high rises where they can implement the estate managing thing. That will finally give us an Arab world.
OKAY an underwater city does sound really cool not going to lie
What is modern monarchy? Just rich people? Heirs to companies? I saw the survey description but I’m still quite confused by this as a concept for the game.
I'm a little unsure how it would be implemented within the sims 4 universe
I DESPERATELY need an 80's fashion pack
like a stuff pack or kit?
I saw the result of this poll just a few hours after it went LIVE, and it honestly kinda shocked me and worried me (personal opinion), especially how a lot of people voiced their concerns and lack of interest for MODERN Monarchy NOT being MEDIEVAL Monarchy. I personally would still love to hear more from them why they are against Modern Monarchy, and only interested in Medieval Monarchy. I'm not really into both, but if it has to come, I also much more prefer the Medieval takes. However, I do realize how it could be out of place in TS4 where all of the worlds are connected in a way.
I really want my Sims to be queens or kings. I guess I'm the minority BC I don't want it to be medieval. As long as it fits with the theme of Sims 4 I'm all good. the pack tells for great storytelling
@@themysticwarriorgal9465 Interesting! Thank you for sharing! I am particularly still wondering why a good portion of people are unattracted to the Modern Monarchy if Medieval is out of the option.
hot take: I don't want either in the main game,
and.. idk... there are so many other time periods to explore.
@@stevenchippssI don’t like the idea of modern monarchy because if they are kings and queens in modern times, they are just wealthy people following made up rules that force them to live in a human museum with no relevance to culture other than gossip and pageantry. If the gameplay is that monarchy is the system of modern government, that’s far too dark a theme for ts4 to cover with any depth. The currently existing absolute monarchies are not situations I would like to role play. If it’s shallow, you can already make a rich sim and I guess they will just add crowns and curtsies? A historical or even futuristic monarchy pack could be fun and escapist if their world was fully fleshed out. If future people are actually ruled by an absolute monarchy, surely that means an apocalypse has occurred and your rulers need to manage a dystopia, perhaps resisted by cyberpunks.
@@joyfulgirl91 This is very interesting and a very good explanation. Thank you for sharing! Perhaps this is the explanation I have been looking for 💚
these results dom't surprise me at all lol. I was fully expecting the Monarchy pack to take top spot
how so?
@@SimmerErin it's the most interesting, the community has been asking for this for so long, it also features property management and it's something new that we've never seen in any mainline Sims game. Up til now most expansions have been about something we've already had before, but the only other time we've had royalty in The Sims was in TS Medieval and this could act as a sort of spiritual sequel to that.
Elders would have had some gameplay and possiblity ot cars. Kids could havad had some gameplay. Could have made a team of superheros and supervillians and had them defend the city or cause all kinds of chaos. And instead people wanted.....a legacy expansion pack under the guise of royalty. So let the complaining about no cars and no gameplay continue. Yes I am salty about the packs I voted for not being picked. It just would have been nice to have something new especially if this game is expected to go on for another 10 years.
oddly enough there was a leaked survey from many years ago that had superheroes as a possibility. I just can't confirm its veracity. Sims VIP reported on it