I marched at Spartans 2019 and on our victory run at semis we talked to them before they went on and tbh they are some of the nicest people I've ever met
Trucker324 I talked to two members who came down to my school and watch our last performance before we left to states and yea I agree they were both super chill and nice. -A.G.
their good-natured, score-indifferent, laid-back, genuinely funny vibe in retreats in 04 is why i decided to go out on a limb and fly across the country to audition in 05. wound up marching mello from 05-07. the people and the culture is what drew me in and i'm still so grateful i did so.
Well, it’s important to realize it’s not always abt energy, it’s abt execution. I could play the most robotically accurate song compared to another person who feels slightly more musical but makes more mistakes. If you can’t handle the extra sauce, don’t put it in. It just couldn’t be executed as well in CC. It may have been incredible but bd was cleaner in many aspects most likely. It’s not always abt hype, especially when it comes to competitions. That’s like saying we should give the nfl team with the coolest plays the win even though they scored less points
Ugh....last rehearsal on the field, full show until Aug 2021. Going to miss DCI and especially Bloo this year. We will all live without it for another year, but my summers have been about DCI for 30 years.
The sad and unavoidable issue with the cancelation of the season is the impact the decision will have on the smaller corps. Some, for certain, *won't* survive a year off the field, without fundraising and souvenirs and corps fees from the members. Has the organization made provisions for those corps? I haven't heard abiyt it if it has and I think it needs to do something if that's not the case.
Yeah, personally I liked down side up better music wise and visual wise, but this was their best performed show so I think this does top just because of that
Bruh Gronk Best performed show with their highest score at Finals to date. Glad I was there to witness that, but I was really hoping Bloo could’ve got it done. And that’s coming from a Blue Devils fan.
Mad props for the opening hit when they jazz run and decrescendo. That’s some GREAT training to get that clean. One of the strongest Bloo hornlines. Could’ve won the ott maybe if this were a different year.
I will fight till my dying breath that they deserved the gold. Blue devils were incredible but god the amount of energy this show produced was INSANE! If there was a fan favorite bloo would have gotten it.
@@kpov2533 Not this BD fan. While i don't know EVERY BD fan, i can tell you that BD and Bluecoats fans are very classy towards each other for the most part. Of course there are outliers and jerks in every fanbase. This might shock you, but i wouldn't be surprised if the dislikes came from Crown fans. That fanbase is the dallas cowboys fanbase of DCI. They think they are entitled to every championship.
As far as the show's music and potential I could agree with you a little bit, I would put tilt over Metamorph personally. If you mean how clean the show is Felliniesque was nigh on perfect, hence the 99.65.
As a guy who played rack for a year, You gotta perform more than everyone else because the lack of stuff you can do is slim. So you gotta do what you gotta do
And it's always the same comments, isn't it? The exact same dead horse over and over. This is long, but sometimes people miss the overall contact. Their objections to what DCI has evolved into need to be addressed properly. In a way, I get it and I understand where they're coming from. These are the people who want hummable tunes with a beat you can dance to that are suitable to a *halftime show.* DCI *was* that, years ago, and to DCI fans of a Certain Age that's what they remember most fondly of the activity. There are things I experienced during my childhood and early adulthood that I myself remember perhaps more fondly than is really justified. I think we all can say there's something in our lives that fits that. Things change, though, and DCI stopped being composed of music suitable for halftime, with drill that was very symmetrical and uniform no later than 1993, when Star performed their "Medea" show. That show was historic. It didn't win first place, but it "won" nonetheless in the sense that it left an indelible mark on all corps' show designs and conceptual philosophies, as well as the activity itself. In a sense, Star "won" DCI *itself* in 1993. Its influence on the activity is still felt to this day and the mark that show left on DCI has proven to be permanent. Yes, it was an "avant garde" show at the time (it came at least a decade ahead of schedule) and many fans didn't much care for it. I've heard over the years that Star was sometimes booed off the field (which acted only to fuel the desire/need among Star's members to polish it until the booers were blinded by its shine). One specific complaint I still hear frequently is that there was too much silence in the show and the show was too short. My own response to that specific complaint as a former musician *and composer* is that the corps was performing the rests that were written in the original music and the show as a whole was *exactly* as long as it needed to be and not one beat longet. That it placed *second* to the Cadets that year, and considering how 'experimental' the show was, that placing is a *monumental* testament to how well it was performed (given how good the Cadets were in 1993) . That their audience didn't completely understand what they were seeing when they saw it (both in terms of the music itself *and* the future influence the show would come to exert on the entire activity) is only proof that DCI shows (the shows themselves--design, music, visuals, and performance) and the activity as a concept are both legitimate and unique art forms in and of themselves. After all, art is art whether or not it's understood by those who experience it, and oftentimes the personal interpretation of the viewer is itself part or even all of the point of the work. OR, as Steve Rondenaro said of the Cadets' "Dreamscapes in Four Parts with a Door" in a Finals broadcast over a decade later, "sometimes you just have to let art be art." DCI is *continuing* to grow and to change. The DCI Congress often approves rule changes that some fans take exception to. When I heard that the rules were chsnged to allow non-valve and non-'horn' brass instruments (trombones? French horns? Wut?) I have to admit that I didn't agree with the change myself and I didn't think it would meaningfully contribute to the activity. I was wrong: "Down Side Up" drove that hone to me, with bells on. It should have been obvious to me, given that it opens up the field of possible content. Mea culpa on that one. I'm sure there will be other changes to DCI that *you,* the Dear Reader, don't approve of as well, and *that's okay!* If DCI is to survive as an activity (especially after this season's entirely appropriate cancelation) it *has to* evolve. They've chosen a modern venue and that costs *money*, and probably quite a bit of it. Shows aren't getting cheaper to produce, and DCI has to be able to draw a broader audience to generate the income the corps and the activity both need to keep themselves going. Change is *inevitable*. This DCI isn't *that* DCI. some of us are just going to have to accept that. Or, as Blaine the Mono once said in Stephen King's *The Wastelands*, "'Tough titty,' said the kitty,' but the milk's still good.'" As an end note: people sometimes ask what I'd do if I won the Powerball lottery (the big ones, north of a half billion bucks). I'd think I'd choose to rectify the regrettable necessity of moving Finals indoors to Lucas Oil in order to eliminate variables in Finals Week as they added electronics, etc. I think if I win the Powerball I'd fund a purpose-built *campus* (including a stadium specifically for DCI and designed with the activity in mind) for all of Finals Week, with auditoriums and other facilities for the other events, classrooms designed for DCI instrumentation in mind for clinics and masterclasses, and intended to be available throughout the year for any regional shows that make sense, and for rehearsal time for the corps and for local area schools. If I did this, the stadium itself would be one with a *retractable roof* so Finals can finslly be held in the open air again. I've performed halftime at a few Lions games in the Pontiac Silverdome many many moons ago in my university's marching band; I know all too well that playing in that kind of barn is an *awful* thing to ask of any musician when they're under that kind of pressure! So yeah, I'd do that if I could, because *I absolutely love this activity!* There's nothing whatsoever bad or objectionable about it in any way and it's a fantastic expression of human creativity, artistic and athletic ability, and as a legitimate art forn of its own.
5:01 i never noticed the kinetic noise reference look at the mellos around the 30 area on the left side of the screen on the front hash there doing the tiny in place bobs b4 running to next set like in kinetic noise
11:38 i’m almost 1000% sure that their choreographer told them to make the props move when they do that. Same goes for 2017 with the same choreo on the line.
This is a weird comment, but this is the essential version of the show for me. The lack of uniform really makes the black/white to color change pop so much more.
My son will be marching in a World Class corps next year, but he did Southwind this year and it is a little sad to see how differently the World Class and Open Class corps are treated.
If he was lost why would it be so smooth? I just feel like it doesn’t look like he is lost because he is marching backwards away from the other bases so he would fix it right away if he was lost and plus he is so confident too. And last thing, it is the last rehearsal so he should have it down
Playing only Beatles music isn’t very difficult of a concept to pull off. They did it well, but it’s much more difficult to create an original concept and express in it a show
i'll just leave this little link right here th-cam.com/video/UpQhy7873Ic/w-d-xo.html for all the purist out there. I get the arguments on both sides and how DCI needed to evolve but everyone in that stadium in 1988 knew the Scouts had just one. Still in my top 5 greatest shows ever (Vanguards Phatom show with the disappearing trick at the end is still my favorite).
Not trying to take away from the work put in, but when you look at what they're physical demands are, then there's no reason why the music shouldn't be near flawless. That's the case for many other corps as well. I find myself getting bored after while (visually) because its getting to be alot of the same from different groups. March....stand and play, dance, walk to new spot, pose....horns up, play jazz run 4 counts to new spot move prop, stand and play 32 Count hold....END OF OPENER!
I have not listened in years. My take on this is: it is terrible. The drum corps as an art form is now dead completely. My sympathies go with the young people who have been staged to complete this ruin. Maybe 2020 is a blessing in disguise; a chance to restore the art form to the universal appeal it used to have. Peace.
Gregory Frech or you could just enjoy it for what it is and see how it develops over time. No hate, just try to think about how different the times were back when DCI was newer. Just like phone, or automated machines, things change. If you’re not a fan, so be it. But there are many people who still have a chance to see these shows and get inspired to do this.
I marched at Spartans 2019 and on our victory run at semis we talked to them before they went on and tbh they are some of the nicest people I've ever met
Trucker324 I talked to two members who came down to my school and watch our last performance before we left to states and yea I agree they were both super chill and nice. -A.G.
@Jeramiah Dunn ive never seen such a bigger flex
ok Kurt. Big man
their good-natured, score-indifferent, laid-back, genuinely funny vibe in retreats in 04 is why i decided to go out on a limb and fly across the country to audition in 05. wound up marching mello from 05-07. the people and the culture is what drew me in and i'm still so grateful i did so.
1st bass drum
2nd bass drum
3rd bass drum
4th bass drum
5th bass drum
Good meme
Lol
What
Williams Variety you must watch the video to understand
😂
The energy this show produces was unmatched by anyone else this year. Incredible
Chris Mora I disagree, finals night Crown had the biggest energy out on the field the entire night. It was an entirely different Corp that night
For Their Tomorrow and yet they still got robbed for the 3rd place spot
@@troyharkcom6441 of all the talk of being robbed, it was definitely crown. That was the peak level hype.
Well, it’s important to realize it’s not always abt energy, it’s abt execution. I could play the most robotically accurate song compared to another person who feels slightly more musical but makes more mistakes. If you can’t handle the extra sauce, don’t put it in. It just couldn’t be executed as well in CC. It may have been incredible but bd was cleaner in many aspects most likely. It’s not always abt hype, especially when it comes to competitions. That’s like saying we should give the nfl team with the coolest plays the win even though they scored less points
Ugh....last rehearsal on the field, full show until Aug 2021. Going to miss DCI and especially Bloo this year. We will all live without it for another year, but my summers have been about DCI for 30 years.
The sad and unavoidable issue with the cancelation of the season is the impact the decision will have on the smaller corps. Some, for certain, *won't* survive a year off the field, without fundraising and souvenirs and corps fees from the members.
Has the organization made provisions for those corps? I haven't heard abiyt it if it has and I think it needs to do something if that's not the case.
This was going to be my first year I could go to a live event...
@@not_a_generic_name6183 Me too! I was so sad
@@not_a_generic_name6183 This was going to be my first season marching :/
Daniel That sucks
I think this is one of their best shows. I would have been ok with a tie
Yeah, personally I liked down side up better music wise and visual wise, but this was their best performed show so I think this does top just because of that
Bruh Gronk Best performed show with their highest score at Finals to date. Glad I was there to witness that, but I was really hoping Bloo could’ve got it done. And that’s coming from a Blue Devils fan.
Mad props for the opening hit when they jazz run and decrescendo. That’s some GREAT training to get that clean. One of the strongest Bloo hornlines. Could’ve won the ott maybe if this were a different year.
6:56 When you clap in-time with the show.
ok but like the seamless transition from "i wanna hold your hand" to "eleanor rigby" is amazing
10:55 when the Bass Trombone comes in is my favorite part
I will fight till my dying breath that they deserved the gold. Blue devils were incredible but god the amount of energy this show produced was INSANE! If there was a fan favorite bloo would have gotten it.
Arguably one of the best shows I've seen in a while! Who on earth are the 10 people who don't like this?
Blue Devils Fans probably 😂
@@kpov2533 Not this BD fan. While i don't know EVERY BD fan, i can tell you that BD and Bluecoats fans are very classy towards each other for the most part. Of course there are outliers and jerks in every fanbase. This might shock you, but i wouldn't be surprised if the dislikes came from Crown fans. That fanbase is the dallas cowboys fanbase of DCI. They think they are entitled to every championship.
The silence at 10:03 is so powerful
dang it you commented that before i can
it should be full of applause at comps lol
10:56 I don't think that bass has a mic, but there is a video of it from his pov. Amazing.
What a jaw dropping performance. Brought tears to my eyes and gave me chills. Incredible!
top 4 shows of the decade
1. Babylon
2. The Bluecoats
3. T/LT
4. Metamorph
agreed
As far as the show's music and potential I could agree with you a little bit, I would put tilt over Metamorph personally. If you mean how clean the show is Felliniesque was nigh on perfect, hence the 99.65.
CHEESEMART -SKILZ CLAN
Debatable
metamorph really hit hard
T/LT
This is hands down my favorite show ever
Beneath the Surface and The Bluecoats are two of the best shows of all time and they got beat cause of visuals, 2019 was wacky
beneath the surface was not that great design wise
@@tonionknight7472 the musicality and drill was phenomenal though
The detail of the pattern is movement
a lot of small callbacks to bloo2015 and i'm living for it.
The closer man, chills EVERY TIME
12:08 Look at the guy on the tambourine
As a guy who played rack for a year, You gotta perform more than everyone else because the lack of stuff you can do is slim. So you gotta do what you gotta do
To all of the people that trash modern drum corps... You’re all muppets because Bluecoats 2019. There... I said it.
And it's always the same comments, isn't it? The exact same dead horse over and over.
This is long, but sometimes people miss the overall contact. Their objections to what DCI has evolved into need to be addressed properly.
In a way, I get it and I understand where they're coming from. These are the people who want hummable tunes with a beat you can dance to that are suitable to a *halftime show.* DCI *was* that, years ago, and to DCI fans of a Certain Age that's what they remember most fondly of the activity. There are things I experienced during my childhood and early adulthood that I myself remember perhaps more fondly than is really justified. I think we all can say there's something in our lives that fits that.
Things change, though, and DCI stopped being composed of music suitable for halftime, with drill that was very symmetrical and uniform no later than 1993, when Star performed their "Medea" show. That show was historic. It didn't win first place, but it "won" nonetheless in the sense that it left an indelible mark on all corps' show designs and conceptual philosophies, as well as the activity itself.
In a sense, Star "won" DCI *itself* in 1993. Its influence on the activity is still felt to this day and the mark that show left on DCI has proven to be permanent. Yes, it was an "avant garde" show at the time (it came at least a decade ahead of schedule) and many fans didn't much care for it. I've heard over the years that Star was sometimes booed off the field (which acted only to fuel the desire/need among Star's members to polish it until the booers were blinded by its shine).
One specific complaint I still hear frequently is that there was too much silence in the show and the show was too short. My own response to that specific complaint as a former musician *and composer* is that the corps was performing the rests that were written in the original music and the show as a whole was *exactly* as long as it needed to be and not one beat longet.
That it placed *second* to the Cadets that year, and considering how 'experimental' the show was, that placing is a *monumental* testament to how well it was performed (given how good the Cadets were in 1993) . That their audience didn't completely understand what they were seeing when they saw it (both in terms of the music itself *and* the future influence the show would come to exert on the entire activity) is only proof that DCI shows (the shows themselves--design, music, visuals, and performance) and the activity as a concept are both legitimate and unique art forms in and of themselves. After all, art is art whether or not it's understood by those who experience it, and oftentimes the personal interpretation of the viewer is itself part or even all of the point of the work.
OR, as Steve Rondenaro said of the Cadets' "Dreamscapes in Four Parts with a Door" in a Finals broadcast over a decade later, "sometimes you just have to let art be art."
DCI is *continuing* to grow and to change. The DCI Congress often approves rule changes that some fans take exception to. When I heard that the rules were chsnged to allow non-valve and non-'horn' brass instruments (trombones? French horns? Wut?) I have to admit that I didn't agree with the change myself and I didn't think it would meaningfully contribute to the activity. I was wrong: "Down Side Up" drove that hone to me, with bells on. It should have been obvious to me, given that it opens up the field of possible content. Mea culpa on that one.
I'm sure there will be other changes to DCI that *you,* the Dear Reader, don't approve of as well, and *that's okay!* If DCI is to survive as an activity (especially after this season's entirely appropriate cancelation) it *has to* evolve. They've chosen a modern venue and that costs *money*, and probably quite a bit of it. Shows aren't getting cheaper to produce, and DCI has to be able to draw a broader audience to generate the income the corps and the activity both need to keep themselves going.
Change is *inevitable*. This DCI isn't *that* DCI. some of us are just going to have to accept that. Or, as Blaine the Mono once said in Stephen King's *The Wastelands*, "'Tough titty,' said the kitty,' but the milk's still good.'"
As an end note: people sometimes ask what I'd do if I won the Powerball lottery (the big ones, north of a half billion bucks). I'd think I'd choose to rectify the regrettable necessity of moving Finals indoors to Lucas Oil in order to eliminate variables in Finals Week as they added electronics, etc. I think if I win the Powerball I'd fund a purpose-built *campus* (including a stadium specifically for DCI and designed with the activity in mind) for all of Finals Week, with auditoriums and other facilities for the other events, classrooms designed for DCI instrumentation in mind for clinics and masterclasses, and intended to be available throughout the year for any regional shows that make sense, and for rehearsal time for the corps and for local area schools. If I did this, the stadium itself would be one with a *retractable roof* so Finals can finslly be held in the open air again. I've performed halftime at a few Lions games in the Pontiac Silverdome many many moons ago in my university's marching band; I know all too well that playing in that kind of barn is an *awful* thing to ask of any musician when they're under that kind of pressure!
So yeah, I'd do that if I could, because *I absolutely love this activity!* There's nothing whatsoever bad or objectionable about it in any way and it's a fantastic expression of human creativity, artistic and athletic ability, and as a legitimate art forn of its own.
@@KyleNally Preach brother
Yeah I’m not reading that thx tho
@@KyleNally don’t forget bluecoats 2016 with the big ass props
5:01 i never noticed the kinetic noise reference look at the mellos around the 30 area on the left side of the screen on the front hash there doing the tiny in place bobs b4 running to next set like in kinetic noise
We put that in just to see if anyone would notice it!
How did I never notice that
not only that, the trumpet feature in Eleanor Rigby is literally the same structure and is definitely alluding to Kinetic noise
i just realized that 2:37 is literally from session 44
Kinda they made some changes and made it a simpler run than 2018
God I love the Bluecoats
11:38 i’m almost 1000% sure that their choreographer told them to make the props move when they do that. Same goes for 2017 with the same choreo on the line.
Marching Food Truck I promise that they didn’t
Man this recipe is amazing. Thanks
This is a weird comment, but this is the essential version of the show for me. The lack of uniform really makes the black/white to color change pop so much more.
My son will be marching in a World Class corps next year, but he did Southwind this year and it is a little sad to see how differently the World Class and Open Class corps are treated.
Almost forgot to watch this today
Dont mind me, just leaving this here for when I come back
8:15 to the end
When people ask me, "what type of music do you listen to?" This is what I show them 6:30.
I think there needs to be a dedicated Grunzkam next year. . . .
Next year lol😥
If I could perform any show it would be this one, it looks like so much fun. Just the flag work omggggg
rip the guy sitting out in the back
reliving marching band days
Is Bass 5 lost starting at 3:39?
Nope he was making a groove with the snares
@@JoelHorvath oh ok, it seemed like he wasnt in the right spot
@@shawntrumbo3945 😂😂
i think like that too
If he was lost why would it be so smooth? I just feel like it doesn’t look like he is lost because he is marching backwards away from the other bases so he would fix it right away if he was lost and plus he is so confident too. And last thing, it is the last rehearsal so he should have it down
Excellent but still. undeveloped. The stage creates so many options. Loves the functionality.
10:58
watch the pit its hilarious
@@eggscaviar3655 that was basically my band at championships
At least this show had a recognizable theme, unlike 99 percent of everything else.
Playing only Beatles music isn’t very difficult of a concept to pull off. They did it well, but it’s much more difficult to create an original concept and express in it a show
so is no one gonna talk about that dude in the back??
0:18 me at McDonalds
This show was robbed.
Who robbed them? What props was taken? I saw everything on the field finals night when BD beat them fair and square.
@@gunner-qf9eh cap
Truth
mellos going crazy at 6:43
Number 9
10:23 the part to the end
i'll just leave this little link right here th-cam.com/video/UpQhy7873Ic/w-d-xo.html for all the purist out there. I get the arguments on both sides and how DCI needed to evolve but everyone in that stadium in 1988 knew the Scouts had just one. Still in my top 5 greatest shows ever (Vanguards Phatom show with the disappearing trick at the end is still my favorite).
th-cam.com/video/U5HNy1ynPbU/w-d-xo.html the pit dances lmao
Not trying to take away from the work put in, but when you look at what they're physical demands are, then there's no reason why the music shouldn't be near flawless. That's the case for many other corps as well. I find myself getting bored after while (visually) because its getting to be alot of the same from different groups. March....stand and play, dance, walk to new spot, pose....horns up, play jazz run 4 counts to new spot move prop, stand and play 32 Count hold....END OF OPENER!
That’s where, imo, crown really excelled this year. They were almost constantly on the move, especially in the closer
I have not listened in years. My take on this is: it is terrible. The drum corps as an art form is now dead completely. My sympathies go with the young people who have been staged to complete this ruin. Maybe 2020 is a blessing in disguise; a chance to restore the art form to the universal appeal it used to have. Peace.
Gregory Frech or you could just enjoy it for what it is and see how it develops over time. No hate, just try to think about how different the times were back when DCI was newer. Just like phone, or automated machines, things change. If you’re not a fan, so be it. But there are many people who still have a chance to see these shows and get inspired to do this.
if anything this has more universal appeal than most dci shows, it’s the beatles
This guys just a boomer. Dci has evolved into something magnificent over the years
okay boomer
You’re definitely an old head who’s mad that drum corps is changing
11:23
Su madre
Luis Vasquez 😂
Thanks god 🙏🙏🙏