Jim Cornette SHOOTS On Who Really KILLED TNA
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Jim Cornette spoke to ITR recently and was asked about who he thinks really killed TNA. Subscribe to the channel for more clips of our live shows and interviews, and don't forget to like and comment too!
I remember listening to corrnetts podcast about a week or few days before hogan and bishoff signed for TNA and Jim was laughing and joking saying wouldn’t it be just funny if bishoff and hogan bring all there cronies with them and use beefcake and nastyboys etc instead of AJ styles etc. and when he signed he did lmfao I’m sat there expecting beer money and I get the bastard nasty boys instead ffs
When Hogan and bischoff on their first day in the company brought the nasty boys and Jim neidhart and co that was the end for me
I forgot jim neidhart was even brought in. To be fair he wasn't even the worst even though bubba the love sponge has to be the worst despite him being there for only a few weeks
They also brought in Ric Flair, who months ago had a retirement match with Shawn Michaels at Wrestlemania lol. Also, they were silly enough to bring in Scott Hall and Sean Waltman, who were either completely sky high or drunk.
Same. Ugh the fuckin nastys, who the hell wanted to see those guys again?
They got rid of the hexagon ring, and brought in all the WWF washouts. TNA lost everything that made it special.
05-09 TNA is simply amazing.
Impact existing to this day is amazing to see. Even more so when you hear Jeff discuss the events of the early days of the company. The fact they got their line or credit from health south was incredible to get. Then you think about the Haussmann situation and how he lied to them about their PPVs and how they thought they’d made X amount and learned they’d actually made maybe 1/3 of that is absurd. And then how the Health South thing went down and losing that line of credit that they needed. And if they didn’t have a publicist with wealthy parents they’d have gone under within the first six months.
Sure TNA is now remembered for how disappointing it was for them to not reach their potential and the massive decline that followed that. But the fact it even survived the first year with all the things that happened to them right away and in such a short period of time is really one of the most amazing things. And it’s further wild to see it still exists albeit as a much different entity nowadays.
The irony of it all is that Dixie was the company’s savior yet also its downfall. Interesting to ponder what it could’ve been had the company been willing to sell equity to Viacom back in 2011. Viacom already invested a ton in it without equity and who knows what they would’ve invested with equity. But Dixie wouldn’t accept not being in power and tsnked that deal from happening. Fascinating to think that somebody who saved it was also the one who did it the most harm down the line.
The problem I keep seeing is everyone tries to become 99-2001 WCW. All of these new "promoters" are fans of that era.
Those were really glory days and golden era. Hogan Bischoff came in and ran me off within 6 months. I started paying attention again instead 2016 and honestly it's been a fun watch and one of the more underrated shows. Scott D'more does a great job and presents like wrestlers and athletes. Josh Alexander and Mike Bailey are great. It's far from perfect and it's filmed in a broom closet for $5, but minute to minute I'll put it over AEW or WWE. Plus only 1.5h. The perfect amount of weekly wrestling for me.
You managed to hang in there for 6 months? By Lockdown 2010 when I saw Ric Flair do a thumbtacks spot, I turned away and never looked back
At least I got too see the Jay Lethal ric flair woo off?
@@graefx that is a modern day classic promo. By far impacts best promo
I hear you! Same feelings and opinions. Also dig Ace Austin and Bey.
It’s a shame they only really get attention when something stupid happens bc week to week Impact is a pretty good wrestling show
TNA's problems were planted into the very foundation of the company.
So it didn't matter who was in charge, the problems can't go away unless you blow it up and start over. You look at their weekly PPV's when they first started in 2002 and then go forward 6 years and then go forward another 6 years
Then you realise there is no difference. The faces change but the problems remained. Lack of an identity, desperate for rub from the bigger companies, short sightedness, one step forward, ten steps back, pushing away their original acts for cast offs etc
Another big issue with the foundation. They pushed Jeff Jarrett as the top star.
@@tsaicho The same jarrett that once was gone tna started to go down the shithole thanks to Hogan and his crew manipulating that bimbo dixie? Riiight. Yeah it's totally jarrett's fault lmao. Lemme guess, you're an aew fan, aren't you. Probably your favorite wrestler is moxley too. Or omega.
TNA Impact in the late 2000's was actually good though. They booked Sting, Kurt Angle. AJ Styles, Christian Cage, Team 3D just like they should have. The IWC just like to push a narrative that TNA Impact was always terrible because most of them are WWE fanboys. Hey remember when Jeff Hardy had a 42 day WWE title reign? Was that not bad?
@@PARZ90s We know the reason why Jeff's title reign ended up short though.
They couldn't trust him to not get in trouble because of his addictions and didn't want him getting caught while he was champion.
And sure enough...what happens when he's champion in TNA?
@MrPerfect2000Z Okay so then why did they build him up to win it for an entire year? Why even hire him at all? All you're doing is defending terrible booking. WWE fanboys can never admit to WWE's bad booking. Its only TNA and WCW that made bad decisions in their eyes.
Sucks that Tna bombed so bad I really liked the 07-08 stuff. Really loved Daffney
Dixie was the ultimate problem:
1. Ran Jarrett and Dutch and Cornette off.
2. Kept Russo in the mix despite objections from Spike and anyone with common sense.
3. Brought Hogan and Bischoff in.
The company started out behind the 8 ball by only having access to wrestlers WWE didn't want, and they managed to make a couple of stars like AJ Styles. But for everything they managed to get right, they got about 10 things horribly wrong. TNA? Really? That's the name of the company? Gee, I wonder why that failed?
The name appealed to teenagers like my friends and I who loved tna but at the same time those people are also the most broke and lowest demographic you can market to 😂
Everyone says about the name but I'm being honest. I did not see the problem until someone outright said Tits N Ass. Total Nonstop Action does sound very much like a wrestling promotion. I mean, for Christ sakes, we've got Juggalo Championship Wrestling. Can't be worse than that.
What makes me sad is the fact that major TH-cam channels like Cultaholic wrestling, Whatculture wrestling, wrestle talk and WrestlelaMania have stopped covering impact wrestling as a whole. Their weekly analysis has stopped since AEW gained momentum.
Also they made Impact wrestling heavyweight championship look like a second fiddle in AEW and not as an equal one.
Well I recall bringing up Impact in a What Culture video and the comment section ate me alive. Needless to say I don't think some communities 'care' if Impact has enjoyable PPVs or pro wrestling, many are just immature man-childs that wave whichever banner of loyalty they worship. If it's not WWE it's AEW, or nothing apparently.
Not enough in the YT community just genrally like wrestling.
Because impact is garbage and should go out of business, really isn't anything to be sad about.
What makes me sad is that major...
No need for "the fact". The fact is superfluous. Every third comment unnecessarily contains the fact. Write better.
@@stacyhamilton2619 that was good 👍
Tna talent in 06 “this company is a cluster fuck”
TNA talent in 2016 “we’ve hit rock bottom, wish I could go back to the golden era in 06”
Taylor Wilde returned to impact.
She mentioned on a podcast. Keep in mind I’m giving word for word what she said:
Taylor: I was here my 1st time, it felt like a wrestling company. We had stuff wrong, but we had other things right. Sure I left on my terms.
I return. What do I see my 1st time back? The guardrail to separate the fans? Part of it is fencing used for the backyard or front yard of a home. We all tried to stay in the ring. If you were out of the ring, you had hard wood floors and the mats outside the ring were literally car seats from junk cars that were Duck taped down. We were wrestling in gymnasiums. Random places. If you watch on tv, the panning of the crowd was maybe 100 people if you’re lucky.
My character is a slap to the career a lot of us have. We gave winter the title when she botched every match on tv. Lacey von Erich gets a contract and can’t even wrestle. She knew nothing. But she was hired due to her last name. Hence why Gail Kim had to step up and be the division countless times with awesome kong so the rest of us can learn.
I shouldn’t have returned. I returned to do Gail Kim and mickie James a favor. They both owe me.
That’s what she said.
Aside from answering how she got into wrestling and the independent wrestling industry she was involved in.
2007-2009 TNA was really good. Then…… Dixie took control.
I still wonder why they took the EXACT SAME PEOPLE that basically ruined WCW a decade earlier and thought "Yeah, this will be great"
Yea well you could say what you want but if Dixie didn't cimw along that company would of probably went under right away . (not getting into what happened)
@@davidcwajgenberg6185they didn’t have any money. Wtf do you think there is to not get into? That’s the whole story. They were broke and going out of business and she saved them, goober.
@@willdallas53 Gooner really ? Amd I ment not to get into her decisions you just said my point the place wouldn't exist without her . And people keep bashing her it's like if your a AEW fan and keep bashing Tony Khan or a big WWE fan and constantly bashing McMahon . When. He obviously helped build that place. . (I know now is different because his age ) But besides the point
You think about the amount of young talent that went through either OVW or TNA between '00 and '07... just a wasted generation of talent.
00’s TNA was actually good
Best roster at the time with horrendous creative writing and booking.
Bringing in midcard fired wwe guys and jobbing their homegrown talent to them is what killed it.
Kurt Angle, Jeff Hardy and RVD werent mid carders they were all 3 WWE champions. The others such as Christian and Matt Morgan I didnt get why did they put them over compared to AJ Styles.
Anytime you ask Cornette why a promotion failed, his answer will always be "because of s*** stain!" 🤣
JC is completely bitter!
It is pretty depressing, isn't it?
Cornette's last word will be "Russo".
Meanwhile, Russo probably never thinks of Cornette at all.
@@danielburger1775 It's sad and very pathetic! To say you piss on another man's grave is disgusting. If he tries it I hope he's struck by lightning or has a heart attack on the walk to the grave
@@danielburger1775 just a total obsession.... To hold a grudge that long on someone is utterly ridiculous.. it's not like Russo held a knife to this idiots throat
@@danielburger1775It'd only be sad if Cornette didn't have a ball hating Russo. You hear how the guy has fun doing it these days. Russo has way too many failures under his belt after leaving WWF to think about Cornette.
When Hogan, Bischoff came in I stopped watching TNA. RVD was bad for business too. I believe he beat AJ for the title. .
Abyss worshipping the WWE Hall of Fame ring of Hogan was the worst. Ridiculous!
I watched TNA when it frist started. I thought maybe with proper management this could have potential. As time went on I saw going it going down hill. The problem I see with any promotion is not with the wrestlers it's the upper ups as it is with with any job. As cornette quotes a s**t stain can ruin for everyone
I watched TNA religiously in the 2000s. I think it started going downhill around mid to late 2007 when they started hiring too many ex-WWE guys. It was so good from 2005-2007. It was fine with one or two ex WWE/WCW guys i.e. Kurt Angle & Sting, but then it got overkill.
They hired vince russo , Eric bishoff and hulk Hogan its like they wanted to go out of business. Tna used to be great i loved tna especially in 2008
I'm surprised he didn't say it was the young bucks.
Why would he say that? When it comes to problems in TNA, they're miniscule compared to the rest of their issues.
What Im really worried about is now TNA are doing OK, practically making tbe other two look bad. They wanna play Forbidden Door, last time Kenny Omega walked away with their own World Title. which ,bottom line ,says to the fans ,nobody on your roster is as good as AEW.
Hogan and his crew is what killed TNA
Dixie Carter & removing the 6 sided ring was the downfall of TNA.
Russo, bischoff, hogan. There’s a good start.
They brought in the same people who ruined WCW…
Having AJ styles as a ric flair jr was sickening.....RVD debut 🤦♂️ then the 1st time ever RVD vs AJ styles on free TV no build up at all.....then made abyss a hogan wanna be🤦♂️ didnt know what to do with samoa joe.....too much hogan on screen 😒🙄 abandoned the X division.......when those idiots showed up it was👎👎👎👎👎hill
300% hogan and bischoff.
Vince Russo killed TNA!
hulk was in heat w dixie
Hogan killed tna and wcw but got those paychecks ,hulkmania needs wwe ,the Vince doesn't need Hogan since 93,Hogan was getting paid off the past for 20yrs
I sure did back in 2006
Fast forward 5 years at best and we’ll have the exact same videos about AEW cropping up on TH-cam. Tiny Khan is the biggest joke of any business he runs, just ask Fulham FC fans and how he’s managed to ruin an already established top flight Premier League club. If anybody in their right mind thinks that this clown could therefore start his own company and make it successful, then I can only pity them. The guy is the true definition of ‘Silver Spoon Manchild’.
credit where credit is due.....from there start to about 2015 ....there product [ IN RING ] much like wcw 1989 to 1999 was better than WWE
They wouldn't buy a whole network to put one show on thats a dumb assumption anthem owns several networks in Canada they were looking to buy us network for years
Actually i think tna was at its best, quality wise, both in the 2008-09 period and in the 2011-14 period.
i fell for hogan to..........
I enjoyed TNA wrestling it's way better than that AEdubya crap on TNt
Impact (TNA) is still thriving and has outlasted SMW, WCW, ECW,etc.
I'd say thriving is a bit of strong word considering the ratings they draw nowadays. I'd say they're hanging in there better than any of those promotions you mentioned, but that's about all the credit I can give them, lol.
Saying they outlasted those promotions by being the basement dweller of pro wrestling wrestling in front of 50 people isn't something to brag about.
@@christophermarriott1681 well other then WCW the companies he mentioned were kinda basement dweller's too so
How old are you lol? WCW had been around since the 1950's. It was called NWA (national wrestling alliance). In territory terms it was the mid south, mid atlantic region. The WCW name didn't stick until the 1980's but the company had been around.
@@acehigh79 WCW broke off from the NWA, in September 93.
The best part about this podcast is I don't have to listen to Conrad Thompson's fat weasley voice.
People are so obsessed with wrestling that I just get mad I love it but why it's not real like people say so should I be a fan rar!!!!!!!!
But I always say they get hurt and die from by on the road and not spending time with the family
Russo booking was when TNA was at its most successful ever.
Russo, Trump, Omega and Meltzer all live rent-free in Cornette's head.
No it wasn't..why lie
@@northleedspoppa Uh, but it was.
Same with WWF/WWE.
What is hilarious is that Cornette is constantly pointing out how much better the overall format of RAW was in the Attitude Era, yet won't say who it was putting together that format...
I mean technically that's true but that was almost in spite of themselves
@@andrewdunn5568 Russo actually spent a lot of time researching what fans wanted to see, and what made fans change the channel. The fans at large, not internet smarks.
Then, and here's something strange, he wrote a format that had more of the stuff people want to see, and less of the stuff that makes people turn off. Instead of just forcing someone down the fans' throats, whether they like them or not.
TNA/Impact is the genital warts of wrestling
AEW = TNA
Lol! Youre late for the party.
AEW is what TNA wishes they were. AEW is a legit number 2 promotion and has already expanding globally in under 5 years. TNA is the basement dweller of pro wrestling. Get out of your mom's basement more often.
AEW isn't anywhere near a popular as TNA used to be.
But much worse
@@danielburger1775 AEW is even more Popular than TNA ever was......and i hate to say it but its true, Tna never had the money sustain for great venues as aew has
Cornette is just bitter because wrestling isn't what it "used to be" . Bull$hit !
Yeah and how's the ratings when Jim was in the business 25 million people watched in the 80s when Jim was in the business in the 90s 10 million people watched on Monday night. This generation you can't get 10 to watch in a week who's the problem him or the current
If he's wrong whered the fans go?
Wrestling's a bunch of guys doing gymnastics they think everybody should be included and it's offensive to watch I'm embarrassed to be a wrestling
What does this comment have to do with TNA though? There's very well documented issues with how TNA was run from Russo's shitty writing to Dixie Carter's absurd demands for the tv deal. Cornette is pretty far down in the list to blame for tna's failure
@@rc8657 if he's right then why are people not watching NWA and Smokey Mountain wrestling ? People don't want to see that $hit either . WWE is still a multi Billion dollar business . Why is Cornette not on the creative team ? If he knows so damn much . I don't watch wrestling any more either but I am damn sure tired of Jim Cornette and his wrestling ain't what it used to be bull$hit . Wrestling is going to evolve and change cause people get tired of seeing the same old thing over and over . Triple H is doing a good job and if Vince will stay out of it I think it can go places .