10 Unpleasant Alien Civilization Scenarios
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- And exploration of 10 Unpleasant Alien Civilization Scenarios and speculation on what they might mean.
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Unpleasant Alien Civilization Scenario: Really Smelly Aliens.
Like, REALLY smelly 😉😂
What about if it's us whos smelly? And it makes them go isane and kill us? Thats unpleasant.
In his book communion, Whitley Strieber said the beings he's had contact with did smell bad. He described them as smelling of rotten cinnamon.
Hilary Clinton?
If we are to interact in person with the aliens, this is an eventual concern. Stinky, indeed.
Isn't it crazy how the human brain is capable of thinking this deep when, we've never left our solar system?
Going fast is hard man , even when we get large enough, Lightspeed is still too slow , it's a sad tought that most areas of the universe will never be explored
"The human brain is capable of thinking so deep"- the human brain
@@velimirjuradin8764 The Alcubierre drive was proved to be possible using only positive mass, still incredibly difficult but we have invested almost zero resources into making that thing a reality.
I bet gold fish think they have deep thoughts too. That’s what happens when a species reaches the climax of its intellectual glass ceiling. Even the most intelligent of us are only half a step above crows and octopus. Our egos on the other hand are miles above.
Never left the planet
I always liked the idea that aliens are just studying and observing us instead of the common thought that aliens want to destroy the Earth.
I know right like what would they get out of it
It’s pretty much all of the above. Some aliens want to help humanity, some wants to study us, and some just simply want to take earth’s resources and exterminate humanity.
The logic “not all people are bad/evil” can still be applied to extraterrestrials. Not all aliens are bad/evil.
@@theend-nz6vshumans don’t spread throughout the universe like a plague
They have their own planet earth series, the alien ships we see are just camera men
Really? U don’t think aliens don’t want to destroy the race that doesn’t work together ? So much negativity so much hate? Probably the only ones in the universe who have leaders who purposely kill us , hate us , want control and other shit i mean big named leaders and celebrities that we look up to and control us all went Epstein island😂😂😂 so idk why u would think aliens wouldn’t wipe us out
V2 rockets were made before space rockets, atom bombs before nuclear power, and I imagine sticks or stones were used in combat before they were used as tools. Aggression shaped our destiny and if some aliens are out there in space, you can be fairly certain they will be aggressive too.
They definitely were! Some of the earliest fossils found had spear marks on them
@@xparzival80x18dinosaurs did not have spear marks🤣🤣🤣
@@xparzival80x18you realize humans have been around for maybe a million years while life has been around for 3.7 billion years
Agreed, intelligence is an aggressive trait
Because surviving comes before exploration
Unpleasant Alien Civilization Scenario: They contact us, and all they want to do is talk politics and religion.
What if *they are already here?*
And have _infiltrated the internet…_ 👽😱🙀
Or inquire about our extended auto warranties..
Given the current state of Humanity, I don't think we need aliens for that... 😂
Ah yes, the interstellar language of all species.
As long as, they are not selling insurance. I’m good.
I love the point you make about in what form a dying civilization might leave their archives for the universe. I instantly thought of the Star Trek episode The Inner Light, where the Enterprise finds a probe floating in space, which zaps Picard and he lives an entire lifetime as a member of their society as they observe their own sun destroying their world, but are unable to save themselves from it.
I've just searched it, it's awesome, ty for your comment
It's a wonder Picard didn't lose his mind after that one
Love it, it’s in my top 10 alongside The Measure of a Man and Darmok. Really any TNG episode where they face adversity in what could be a real life dilemma for us some day.
That was my first though too. Perhaps we should be looking for ornate flutes?
"Footfall" by Niven and Pournelle.
The aliens who find us are from a planet that had held a previous civilization, but which were destroyed by cataclysmic pollution. Before they died, they left messages, hoping in time that another species would arise and gain intelligence. The messages are not historical, but strictly technological.
Much more to the novel, highly recommend it.
I really liked the analogy of the ants and humans being them. Also alien warfare in distance gamma ray bursts. I guess what makes it really scary and intriguing is the size of space is so vast that every single sci fi tech, world,species, weapon from movies games and books is all possible merely based on the fact how vast the universe is.
warhammer 40k
People forget how vast the univers is, the Milky Way stretches between 100,000 and 180,000 light-years across, depending on where you measure, which means a signal broadcast from one side of the galaxy would take 100,000 years or more to reach the other side. Now consider that our species started broadcasting radio signals into space only about a century ago. That's represented by a small bubble measuring 200 light-years in diameter surrounding the position of the Earth. For any alien civilizations to have heard us, they must be within the bubble.
I've never been persuaded by the "ant colony" metaphor, simply by virtue of the fact that we're likely about the same size as the aliens physiologically. We are also capable of technology and communication even if it's orders of magnitude below their own. The exception to this would be if the aliens are a hive mind or many many times physically larger.
Clapdrix it's about intelligence and behavior not size
@@yayazowhow many miles is that?
The idea that they are beings that if we saw we wouldn't be able to comprehend what they are, as well as the idea of them dealing with us like how we deal with bugs has to be the most terrifying way to think about aliens
I don't kill all bugs I just move them out of the way
@@theend-nz6vsbut sometimes you have to kill them for the health of your household. You can’t let a wasp nest exist inside your bedroom, or an ant colony in your kitchen. That we may be so insignificant as to be ignorable unless inconvenient is humbling.
@@theend-nz6vs
'you' are not aliens
@@SMGJohnWe would be considered aliens to a species from another planet
That's how angels are described in Bible
Great video as always. 17:35 That’s essentially the twist of Ender’s Game. An ant like alien species attempts to communicate with humanity by destroying a few cities, assuming that humans work as a hive-mind like themselves and the deaths of a few million drones would get the hive’s attention, without retaliation, as who cares if some drones are killed? They accidentally trigger a intergalactic war that results in the near total genocide of their species. Communication is hard, man.
fat L to the aliens get absolutely ratiod
Aggressively Self hating Closet Case Aliens:
They show up acting kind of normal then project their closeted fear/fetishes onto you… then hate you for causing them to have thought those “taboo” thoughts and want to “gay bash” your civilization for making them think those “abhorrent” fantasies about you.
We need a really big magnifying glass near the sun asap
+Ben Twineham someone actually remembers Enders Game! Rejoice! What an underrated movie
"Ender’s Game" is one of the most thoughtful sci-movies. Especially the end was commendable.
One of my favorite theories is that *humans* are the super advanced precursors and that we just haven't gotten to that point yet. (I mainly like it because it's one of the only ones where humans don't end up alone or in constant danger)
In this scenario we often end up becoming something horrific that doesn't even resemble humanity anymore tho.
@@kp-legacy-5477 So? Few of us despair that we no longer resemble australopithecus, why should it matter whether future humans resemble us? I would be far more disappointed personally by the idea that this is as far as we can get. We should take pride in the fact that we would be incomprehensible to our ancestors, and hope for our descendant's sake that they can regard us in the same way.
I wonder if we are the precursor to advanced machine life that will slowly spread throughout the universe, especially with the advancement of AI. Even in AI's infancy they are already incredibly complex and capable. There's really no telling how AI will eventually evolve. I'm sure it'll be into forms beyond our current comprehension. There could eventually be singular AI entities that grow into super beings the size of entire galaxies.
@@Chad_ThundernutsI really hope that if this is the case we’re able to instill some sense of humanity and individuality into these AI systems, even if they might never fully comprehend it in the way that we do. Sure, maybe humans can’t conquer the galaxy, but why have unthinking probes do it when we could instead attempt to create artificial general intelligences with their own social systems and personalities
This is the plot to Interstellar
This reminds me of that one scene from The TItanic where a giant red flare is sent in the air, but then the camera cuts to a far out view where the flare is only a silent blip in the distance.
Help! Theres a secret plan!
Most terrifying scenario: any civilization advanced enough to explore & visit planets inside their own galaxy is capable of rendering humanity technologically indefensible in any military context. A civilization capable of intergalactic travel cannot be defeated militarily by humans, at all.
It’s okay, we have David goggins
Reminds me of the Combine from Half Life. Such a quick and brutal takeover of earth.
Sounds like a defeatist. Humanity First, Terra firma!
Their ethics will be so advanced they wouldn't;t lower themselves to harming us.
Even here on earth the more civilised we get the more seriously we take the murder of others.
@@toi_techno I'm not sure that I agree with that. Seems to me that as our population grows, the more expendable the individual becomes. That's especially true for the ruling class who tend to view the rest of humanity as either slaves or else mere obstacles standing in their way.
The most unpleasant reality for me would be finding evidence of the Great Filter in the form of self-annihilation, and a universe riddled with dead alien civilizations. Maybe the anarchy-technology dilemma is a far greater hurdle than the earlier evolutionary transitions; such as: abiogenesis, eukaryogenesis, sexual reproduction, multicellularity etc
It’s makes me wonder if the most abundant types of civilizations we find out there are ones that are Hunter gatherer to pre industrial since those have minimal risks of self annihilation. We wouldn’t have the tech to reach them and enter their atmospheres to notice them for quite some time so for hundreds if not thousands of years will pass by before we get the chance to look. IF we’re still around.
Captain Crunch
The big issue with the OP and this theory is that we DO have proof that Tribal society is very prone to self-destruction and that more advanced societies tended to last longer. In North America alone, we have proof that certain Native American cultures went extinct on their own yet more advanced Native american tribes that had access to Spanish horses lived even longer somehow. There’s also the additional fact that we’ve never seen an industrial state destroy itself without the interference of another.
We may go extinct the further more we drain the world’s natural resources without making reserves, but that would take a few more hundred years down the line. Even then, it would still prove that industrial society as a whole is easier to transition into than say the Stone age, which completely contradicts the Great filter theory’s “every phase of civilisation is harder than the previous one” statement.
Spot on. Couldn’t have described it better myself.
Taking a college class in cellular and molecular biology really doesn’t help in wondering about why a bunch of atoms and molecules said “fuck it, let’s work together.” You’re shown how they do it, but there’s not a solid reason behind it at least at the molecular levels
"big word = smart"
Another interesting but troubling idea on alien civilizations, was covered in an episode of Star Trek Voyager. Early warp capable humans sent a Probe out with the best of intentions but that Probe found an less advanced civilization and radically altered their life, eventually for the worse. Imagine our first contact being something like this. A Probe sent with good intentions crashes or explodes in our atmosphere causing catastrophic damage that we have no idea how to combat. Or it's technology leads us even faster down the road to our own destruction.
That was what the lost in space reboot did. Alien ship crashes on Earth causes global disaster, humans reverse engineer alien engine and have now got ftl travel by cheating because they didn't really invent it by themselves but stole it.
@@Johninadelaide2022 this kind of also happens in Niven & Pournelle's book Footfall
That was one of the dumber episodes. I thought it was quite unrealistic, the extent to which they refused to take responsibility for their own actions, and tried to lay the blame on humans. Their expected response would in fact be extreme embarrassment, that they would say "we have disgraced ourselves, you gave us this gift, and look what we did with it". Think about how humans' science fiction has had that as the theme when we were on the receiving end of such gifts. Have you ever seen such a science fiction where the humans legit lay the blame on the aliens for OUR misuse of their gift? Of course not. If anything, it is framed in terms of a sort of test from them, if we misuse their gift and use it for war, that we deserve what we bring upon ourselves. I have seen that in sci fi plenty of times.
Honestly that whole series was bad. Star Trek Voyager, the only thing good about it was the doctor and 7 of 9, those two literally carried the series. That was the worst star trek series up until then. Of course it's the best one since then.... it was all downhill from there.
Ha kinda reminds me of dead space what if the technology we think is good is just some crazy beacon we reverse engineer to our own demise.
Or maybe they just send some fentanyl down and wipe us out that way
It was once explained to me that trying to understand some of the things that goes on outside of our planet is as comprehensible as building a highway over a ant hill and trying to explain it to the ants.
Why do you think ants can't understand transportation pathways or construction? Ever watched a documentary about leafcutter ants? In this scenario the only challenge is establishing a common language.
@@leeow3n might've missed the point there. In any case, a more apt comparison would be building bridges over a pond and attempting to explain it to fish.
how do i know you take psychedelics
@@leeow3n Exactly comparing humans to ants is so dumb, humans are capable of reasoning understanding, LEARNING NEW THINGS, why is is so hard to imagine a different species communicating with us.
Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy reference
As long as they come here legally then I don't have a huge problem with it.
Lol
😂
You don't know if UFOs are the galactic equivalent of a dinghy
0:00 start of video
0:53 All Alien Civilizations are Necessary Aggressive
2:44 The Civilization Literally Next Door
4:49 The Technosignaturs of War
7:52 The Galactic Necropolis
9:57 The Warning Signal
11:59 Identical to Humans
13:54 The Enforced Great Silence
16:00 They Work Like Ants
18:21 The Universe was Created by Aliens
20:17 Berserker Machine Intelligence
Thanks bud. Doin the lords work, are ya
this list is horribly Amazingk!
Thanks!
Thank you
These type of comments are the pet peeve of TH-camrs
my take on the "paradox" of why we dont see alien life all around us in the galaxy is:
you have to take into account all of the possible scenarios which includes all of the time in which civilizations could arise. in theory a civilization similar to us could have started perhaps 4 or 5 billion years before ours, although the likelihood drops the farther back in time you go. also civilizations could arise in the future for another perhaps 200 billion years before the age of stars starts to die off and it becomes more likely as time passes due to the increase in heavier elements from supernova and white dwarf collisions. even without the increased likelihood from heavy element creation over 95% of all civilizations that will exist have not started yet (with it it's over 99.9%). many of the stars that they will arise around have not started forming yet. we are just a bit early, we should find a couple in the next 5 billion years be patient.
The main problem is that current searches would only be able to find civilizations that are *very* close to our current level of development. The chances of finding a civilization a few centuries behind or ahead of us (technology-wise) are very, very slim. Sufficiently advanced civilizations (a hundred years or so ahead of us) would likely use means of communications that we cannot even begin to start to imagine as being remotely possible.
I think it's absolutely the point. We developed a technosignature about a hundred years ago, less than a blink of the eye on universal terms, and we barely survived. If a civilization is not intelligent enough to survive to itself, it may survive a bilnk of an eye or little more. It's impossible to be perfectly simultaneous. The question Fermi asked "where's everybody?" may perhaps mean that intelligent life is always stupid enough (pun intended) to destroy itself in a short time? Spindoctor post here and its 82 likes seem to confirm this.
Everyone seems to be buying this post-Hubble, how huge the universe is, therefore we should re-orient. We already did this several times from animism through single galaxy limitations, trouble is, these absolute statements from our own time are pointless, and we should give them up in favor of what we can take on, i.e. the solar system.
IDK, do realize you're assuming some sort of Great Filter? You seem to be making an assumption, perhaps correct, that most all civilizations die just as in 9:00 in the video. Even if there were only a handful of civilizations arose within the past billion years, even if only one survived, it would have millions of years of technological development! That's a lot of tech!!! We hardly have a couple of thousand years tech, and only a hundred or so years of knowledge of astrophysics. I think a civilization even a thousand years ahead of us would be very, very visible in the galaxy.
'Grabby Aliens '
Also, there’s been a lot of talk on the topic of panspermia- that life on earth could have arrived here from somewhere else.
If that’s the case, then it shouldn’t be too surprising to find life nearby, likely in our own galaxy.
I truly believe we were brought here, this is just me thinking up a reason. Maybe human kind came from a dying world and we got seeded here with no technology in hopes we won’t repeat past mistakes, and we’ve advanced so far that we now are
@@etholus1000Adam and eve were the couple we dropped off on earth 👀
But I've thought of this too, imagine if we found human remains on another planet that were much thousands of years old. Now that would stir up some drama
@etholus1000 you would the ancient Sumerian cuneiform texts, that's what they say our history is
No evidence for panspermia
@@etholus1000 not trying to be rude but why believe that instead of creationism or evolution?
#8 is basically the origin story for the Tyranids in WH40k, in the midst of a massive war Humans sent off a massive energy flare that caught the Nids eye from outside of the galaxy sparking a multi-millennia long invasion
Some say aliens are already here to protest and prevent our use of nukes, claiming that the byproducts fly out into multi-dimensional Space and poison them. There are a number of UFO reports that suggest 'they' are monitoring and intervening in our warlike relationships with each other.
The bloody bugs
Massive incel alert 😂
A highly advanced, space faring civilization would most likely have transitioned to advanced robotic exploration considering how vastly more suitable self-repairing AI robotics are for such pursuits with no need for food and atmosphere, just energy, and far more radiation resistance.
As such a species advanced, they would likely combine organic and inorganic technology, using the best of both. Aging would not exist, as parts wore out they would simply be re-grown or replaced. The problem we have from aging, would simply be solved by designing genetically automatic repairing of any damaged organic parts.
@acedudeism the highest technology available might be undistinguishable from nature. The "mind" controlling such a race would be autonomous from any one physical form but it would use different bodies as vehicles. It would be more or less immortal and not necessarily the evolved ancestor of a race of aliens originating in 3 dimensional space.
@acedudeism also Masamune Shirow's Appleseed and GITS are the greatest Manga
Ok. With settled people too.
The most important thing though is whether consciousness can really be transferred? Or maybe a way to isolate the brain to a machine in some way. It would be awesome to experience living millions of years
Cool video! 2:57 I always disagreed with the notion that a star system nearby is unlikely to be inhabited. There is the concept of a 'galactic habitable zone' that's more complex and nuanced that we understand.
Our Sun is unusually metal-rich for a star of its age and type. Other stars nearby plausibly have comparable levels of rare and heavy elements as Earth and Sol, but that doesn't hold for other areas of the milky way that had different distributions of gasses.
I suspect that life bearing solar systems develop in 'small' groups about the same age. A huge supernovae might spread heavy elements in a ring of life bearing systems. multiple 'nearby' oasis of life in an otherwise almost lifeless desert.
Our 'region' of the milky way likely hasn't seen major sterilization events such as nearby supernovae. Radiation levels, metal richness of stars, lack of disruptive gravitational forces, a galactic orbit that doesn't cross any spiral arms, et al; All of the same variables that conspired to make our Sol system what it is, are likely to hold true in a local swath of space; If there is alien life in the milky way, looking nearby is a very good place to start, especially around nearby yellow dwarf stars of a similar age.
Great point. I'd never considered that. It seems like a likely possibility.
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Wouldn't it be exciting to explore an alien derelict? I know it would be like nothing we see in the movies, with furniture and decorations being the most interesting peek into how they lived. Imagine exploring their galleys, their recreation rooms, the bridge setup, their bathrooms, their workstations, and their labs. I could go on. The thought makes me feel young!
Sorry, that's not where you were going, was it?
U are projecting way, way too much humanity into these scenarios. Too many people picture aliens being pretty much the same as us. Like something out of Rick and Morty. Why is that so prevalent? It lacks so much imagination.
Worst possible outcome. Great filter would be ahead of us.
@@DonRoyalXAll intelligent biological species (that we know of) have a tendency to form cultures, mostly on a tribal level of sorts.
Would it be a stretch to that any biological species, even on other planets, also would have cultures?
@@johnkramer2144 not a stretch at all, in fact a probability, but I’m not arguing against aliens having “culture”, I’m arguing against their culture and mannerisms being imagined so close to humanity’s. Like damn man, every sci-fi game and movie have bipedal organisms that stand straight with faces similar to ours, that speak, and that can LEARN OUR FRICKIN LANGUAGES. Why is that so prevalent? Bcoz of lack of imagination
I’ve tried to imagine just how strange aliens could get, and to do that I looked at ourselves and worked backwards. Imagine an alien species that find us using tools absolutely bizarre. Not just utilising tools, but creating physical objects, from the humble hammer all the way to enormous starships, using physical matter mined and processed from our own planet to contort into whatever our will desires. What kind of species would find this kind of behaviour completely newly-discovered, baffling and unique?
Imagine this same species did not need to eat, or sleep, perform intercourse or wage war (on its own planet). Imagine it never considered a spiritual concept, imagine it didn’t require mathematics and science in order to access space.
It doesn’t cry or love or feel hunger or anger.
All these things have completely shaped us into modern humanity.
Why would an alien species, who are not human, be anything like us?
OF COURSE due to the practically infinite scale of the universe, conditions on some planets would exist where a species would be almost exactly like us.
But, I’m just sick of seeing he same trope over and over and over again, that’s all.
@@johnkramer2144 even the perception of sentience, why do we so often think aliens would see and hear and THINK like us ? Their consciousness, their sentience, could very well be a complete paradigm shift to something we could never imagine. Their entire perception of reality, of existence, utterly and absolutely unlike our own. We are so arrogant, thinking our sentience is the only one that could exist. Like I said…lack of imagination lol
right after the ant analogy i got an ad for raid spray
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No you didn’t
We really shouldn’t be trying to contact other life forms. The chances that it could trigger an aggressive response is just as likely as the chances to trigger a positive or neutral response. Those odds make it not worth the risk in my eyes.
True we could contact a deadly alien specie.
Reminds me of the old phrase,
" Be careful what you wish for, you just may get it"
LOL
We defiantly don’t want to now. Humans aren’t advanced enough in my opinion. If we were advanced as much as Star Trek and could defend ourselfs then maybe it would be ok.
@@GrumpyCat-mw5xl That's how I feel. If we can barely get off our own planet and haven't even stepped foot on the one right next door to us, we're essentially a stranded hitchhiker on foot wielding a stick for protection hoping a stealth bomber sees us but doesn't do anything nefarious. It's a retarded idea to do such a thing. I do think however that if they are detecting intelligent life on our planet only because we are intentionally doing it ourselves that they might not be that advanced to travel such distances. Ones that actually can travel the stars probably already knew we were here thousands of years ago. Regardless, it's dumb to take that chance given our primitive state of technology. The more I think about it the more I want to facepalm over the naivety of the folks who have decided to do such a thing. They really don't have a right to make that decision.
Good thing we are never leaving our solar system
I find it fascinating that this channel can be terrifying and relaxing at the same time.
Liu Cixin’s “Dark forest” hypothesis is to me a terrifying and very plausible answer to the Fermi paradox… and a reason why we should listen carefully, and NOT make our presence known to the rest of the universe.
deaths end was existentially terrifying and made me feel insignificant in a way I haven’t felt before
That's impossible though,, unless you can somehow force humanity to stay in the pre-industrial era. We're emitting radio noise and marking the Earth with biosignatures just by functioning as a civilization.
Just wanted to say, I love this channel and Event Horizon so much. Thanks for all the amazing free content. I'm going to become a patreon member soon.
I'm not gonna lie, the Alcubierre Drive as a weapon idea is pretty damn scary. Great video, John!
Look up relativistic planet killer
Look up The gift of Mercy story...
Yeah!? The drive from Chicago to Rockford isn't too nice either this time of year!
@Tejesh Patel a lot of series did that before, it was SW the only franchise that did it after like 30 years of the same old fashioned lasers
@@troloinkto Yeah but the problem is that it is inconsistent with the SW universe. If such move was possible, using a single ship to destroy a whole fleet, how comes it haven't been made as a weapon already ?
I mean, what's the point of building a moon-sized weapon ? Just accelerate a chunk of metal to near light speed, and here it is, your very cheap own planet buster !
"what if aliens printed out a human to be its alien liaison with us and didn't tell us?"
Exhibit A: Mark Zuckerberg.
Don't you think, an advanced civ could do better? I mean we already have robots more convincing than Zuckerbot.
Their printer was nearly out of toner and their intentions are certainly hostile.
@@daisiesofdoomWho said human replication would be easy once you get ftl? Gene crafting humans can't be easy
22:33 my guy just described the Sentients from Warframe. They are self-replicating terraforming machines that are both biological, and technological. They also have the ability to adapt to whatever damage type or element is affecting them and become immune to it. They were designed to terraform a distant system for a super advanced human-like species named the Orokin. They later gained sentience and waged war on their creators, even thinking out ambushes and war tactics years in advance
7:52 The Galactic Necropolis, a concept I've shockingly never heard of but am so glad I have now. very fascinating!
Help! Theres a secret evil plan
Parasitic aliens like in the movie “The Thing” must be a living reality out there in the universe.Perhaps the vast distances between planets and between galaxies are meant to keep us safe from each other.
Or is it that space is just so vast it’s just nature without any rhyme or reason
@@harrylitzler7086 Yes quite possibly so as well
@@harrylitzler7086 I prefer to think EVERYTHING happens for a reason, whatever it may be.
Let's be real here, nothing is REALLY just RNGesus.
I mean, really think about it for a minute.. Do trees just spring up out of the ground completely randomly, without any outside influence? Of course not, trees don't grow without basic needs like water and sunlight. What about the GENIUS biomechanics of the human body?
Why did we lose most of our body hair? IF you thought "because we started wearing clothes" I'm gonna have to give you 1 strike. Turns out it was shitcanned because less hair allows us to sweat more. No other animal on the planet has a water cooling system as good as Mankind (except maybe camels)
Why are we the only running land animal that can WALK with our feet, bones and all parallel to the ground? (We really are, pretty much all running animals walk and run on their toes. Basically they're 1 Gear whereas we're 2 Gears)
There's a REASON for these particular evolutionary traits. They make us humans the best endurance runners on the planet. The water cooling, the 2 speed "transmission", and being bipedal with relatively long legs allows a human to run even at top speed for several hours without rest
While a lion or gazelle have to stop and recover less than an hour into the chase.
This is getting old quick, ALRIGHT point is..
Everything happens for a reason, whatever it may be. The universe is built on cause and effect, not random chance. Whether the forces which drives happenings in the universe is a cosmic consciousness, or just nature finding order amongst chaos, is all up to you. Either way, there is clearly more to reality than just chance.
Aliens with technology that advanced don’t need to be parasitic. They can probably manufacture, create or find whatever they need in great quantities without the need to disturb us in any way.
@@harrylitzler7086yeah, I think it’s just so vast it’s random.
High powered radio transmission could be phased out in the next 50 years. Satellite comms may be laser, other comms may have much more sensitive receivers so that transmitting power is cut way back. So the use of high power radio transmission maybe only exists for 150 to 200 years then basically vanish. So looking for radio transmissions from neighbors is probably a waste of time. We need big telescopes! We may have neighbors and just don't know it.
I agree. Radio might be very short lived technology. Light is way faster to transmit data, just not the simplest to intercept compared to radio.
Laser communications are functionally identical to radio communications except that the beam spreads-out more slowly.
@@cactuslietuva Radio travels at the speed of light
Yes, I think we are transmitting much less radio frequencies as we move onto stuff like lasers and fibre optics, so it's rather safe to assume other civilisations would do the same unless there was some limitation.
For example, I've heard of hive-mind species maybe having to use RF tech for an extended time because of how they communicate, but that was entirely theoretical. Who knows.
@@cactuslietuva radio waves travel at the speed of light.
I read an Andre Norton short story years ago, where contact with advanced Aliens leads to subservience and lethargy in many humans because our species is so far "behind" so to speak. Like it's not even worth it to compete with them since they are seen as more actually beautiful and accomplished than us.
There always seems to be the assumption that we would be able to detect energy signatures from alien technology, but in order to detect them we'd first have to know what kind of energy systems they implement and have the tools to detect them.
Honestly , I'm happy that Isaac helped me stumble onto this channel . I love both of your works , keep it up .
Event Horizon episode with Isaac coming in December.
Ya , probably gonna be the highlight of the month .
@@JohnMichaelGodier I suggest that you and Isaac invite an alien to yours studios, and make an funny interview with that alien. The comment field here will got crazy. :-)
@@JohnMichaelGodier yeeeeeees!
You need to fall in to JMG Event Horizon Channel as well. Great content and Isaac is a frequent guest
11:50 In the movie Alien a radio broadcast is picked up that causes the ship to wake the crew. They don't understand the broadcast but assume it's a call for help. It turns out that the broadcast is actually a warning.
For a warning to be effective it must be carefully designed so it is unambiguously a warning. Doing this is not as easy as it sounds.
I saw a video about warning the future of the danger of nuclear waste when it will be millions of years before it can be safely handled. Long enough that humans may evolve into something else or for humans to become extinct and a new sapient species can evolve.
I'm sure our solar system has a few beacons around its edge to say "keep out at your own risk"
I watched that video from Real Life Lore
Great video
About hundred thousand years, not millions
Around 15 minutes in you start basically describing the Reapers from the mass effect series so accurately I was waiting for you to mention them🤣 Scary to think that a civilization like that could even exist, solely existing to reset civilizations that get to technologically advanced.
The Mass Effect trilogy is in my opinion the best sci fi game of all time. The writers were clearly aware of a bunch concepts in speculative astrobiology, like the idea of the reapers, and used them to great effect.
What if intelligent life is out there but they're behind us like their equivalent to roman/mideval times and we just pass them by without ever knowing
They would be fun to discover. We'd blow their frickin' minds! They'd freak out if you showed them a cigarette lighter, so imagine what would happen if you got your cell phone out?
We'd really have to leave them alone. It would be mutual destruction because of microbes. True?
@@brianchristopher3816no one knows if extraterrestrial microbes could even affect us in any way considering we would be completely different beings of different origins and evolution
Our nearest stars share the same events or lack of events that effected our solar system. That would make them an excellent place to start looking for alien life.
That is incorrect, it is a misconception to think that when a galaxy rotates all the stars remain in their fixed positions relatively to each other. Each star in the Milky Way has its own orbit around the center and orbits it with its own speed, thus just 100 million years ago we were close neighbors with a completely different set of stars than today. Now consider the fact that the start of the life on earth dates back all the way to 4 billion years ago. Sadly, currently it is impossible to know which stars were nearby the Solar System when it got "infected" with organic matter, as now they are probably scattered across the whole galaxy, each one following it's own path.
@@Kakot_ that is actually not possible. You orbit at a fixed speed around an object of a particular mass at any one distance. there can be different inclinations that effect that but still you would cross paths every few orbits. Any star in the same orbital path as us will stay in relatively the same location to us as it was a long time ago.
@@atashgallagher5139I don't know who to believe
To be fair all alien civilization scenarios would be quite unpleasant and unsettling. At least in the beginning. On that day, everything changes.
Who’s to say our government don’t already know things about this.
@@napoleondynamite4148 Who's to say they do?
@@norlanderduwallis9074 off topic but I like your pfp
Stephen Hawking warned against attempting to make contact with aliens, believing that it wouldn't end well for the human race.
This has been one of the most concise, but deep an informative videos I have ever seen on this subject. Amazingly well documented and presented!
I find it interesting that common ideas about how aliens would react to us reflect our relationship with animals. For instance, the idea that they would abduct us and do strange things to us, how people see them as hairless animals with large heads and eyes, thats just how we appear to other animals. Some see us as potentially useful to the aliens and that they would guide us, like we lift certain animals above others for further domestication
I think they are more compassionate & empathetic to fellow beings.
Actually... It might not be so surprising to see life at least, if not a civilisation, in one of one's close neighbour stellar system(s). There's a reasonable chance that the neighbour formed close by in the same nebula and has a similar distribution of isotopic ratios, is about the same age and may have had its formation kickstarted by the same event.
if you think about it, there's a 50/50 chance there is lol
Personally suspect we are going to find it in the near future right here in our solar system either on a moon somewhere or more than likely Venus. Might not be technical however life none the least.
So earth got lucky we have a solid core of iron that's generating a magnetic field. Than the Mars sized object hitting us then creating our moon which in turn caused our seasons and our tides. Mix that in with the earth being roughly 5 billion years old. We got extremely lucky in how our planet formed.
@@unclerico1106 luck is a human concoction. It doesn’t exist outside your mind. It’s ego driven bs.
There are no aliens in the outerspace. Thats just fiction, sci-fi. Its actually for kids, alien stuff... Its all a psyop for fuck sake's. Americans are the only people who believe in aliens, its cartoonish... Get out of this bubble..
Whenever I'm feeling a bit low on existential cosmic dread. Thanks John.
You final thoughts on this segment were extraordinarily significant. Touché!
First video of yours I’ve ever watched man, excellent video. I have ideas to contemplate for days now🚀
I feel like octopi would be good aliens. Super intelligent creatures, very able to observe animals and such here on earth, at least in the sea. Not sure how the aliens would get that information back, but it's interesting to think about.
they would need longer lifespans for it though, they can't even live for more than 5 years to make use of their intelligence
Reminds me of the aliens from Arrival. They were essentially giant super intelligent octopus/squids.
They could be good but they probably would be hostile to humans given that we kill and consume them.
Most lifeforms exhibit either bilateral or radial symmetry. That could be the main distinction. Radial symmetry seems to be better suited for liquid environments, although it's not exclusive to it (spiders).
However, I think that it's harder to start an industry living in a liquid environment (whether it's water or methane or whatever), so it could be that radial sentient creatures are more common, but bilateral sentient creatures are more likely to develop advanced technology.
It's interesting to think that there are many thousands of different species on this planet, and yet only one developed technology. And even then, that specie has only just managed to do anything in the last couple of hundred years.
Could there not be an abundant amount of worlds like Earth with hundreds of thousands of species like Earth but with no technological specie at all?
Just thinking that we, humans, seem to be a fluke on this world.
I've wondered this. For me the discovery of a blue planet with just mammalian like animals would be wonderful. One techno specie has only occupied this Earth really for a few years. Even our tech at the end of the 20th century seems crude now.
Yo be fair there used to be many different types of human we just killed everyone else imagine if we never killed all the other types of humans tho
That's why I think humans might be alone in this galaxy at least. Intelligent life took billions of year to appear and only under specific conditions. I think planets capable of sustaining multicellular life or civilizations might just be kind of rare. I think microbial life is probably pretty common though considering it appeared on Earth almost immediately after the oceans formed.
When you consider that earth has had a technological civilization for only a tiny fraction of the time that it’s had complex life in general, it seems very likely that there are way more planets that are like earth but without humans, than ones that do have civilizations.
We are the unpleasant alien civilization
This is true. But we shouldn't think ourselves as greater than thou. If anything our unpleasantness means aliens might be even less present. Or maybe they've overcome the aggressive hangups us as talking chimps still struggle with
Nightmare scenario: alien civilizations watch "Friends"
No one told me life would be that way
This’ll probably keep me awake for a while.
Best wishes and greetings from the west of Ireland 🇮🇪🇺🇸
As an Irish Descendant living in America I'd like to send you a warm hello and hope all is well!
@@Hu-WhyteMan cringe
also west!!
Your videos are a gold mine of ideas for sci fi and speculative non-fiction authors. Thank you JMG.
If I remember correctly Frederik Pohl's Man Plus and Clifford Simak's City posited restructuring bioengineered humans to live on other planets (I think Mars, initially). The Pohl version was a bit extreme. Whereas Simak's version (living in Jupiter) seemed more fun.
I really hope this guy gets even more time on his hands... these videos are so awesome!
The problem with the "universe is a simulation run by aliens" scenario is evident when you ask the question "Okay - who's running THEIR simulation?"
me 😈
Nope
@geckoed132 do u trust me
The theory is it is a simulation In a simulation and it just repeats forever until you reach the original universe they think that each time a universe is made via simulation it distorts time so like 1 sec in the real world could be 100 years in the simulation but it stacks on itself if that makes sense so like 3 layers in would be 1 sec would be 300 years
Number 10 rings true to me. The single biggest driver of technology on Earth is conflict.
Without the cold war we probably still would not have put humans on the moon.
Hundreds of years ago advances were made on horse chariots, trebuchets, catapults.
Thousands of years even something as simple as building a strong wall was mainly important because of conflict or potential conflict.
It is obviously not impossible to imagine technology for other reasons but something strong has to be the driver for that. What is stronger than the need to be able to get resources for survival and defend the resources you already have?
And don't forget the first big tool of astronomy, the telescope, was advanced to get a better few of distant battlefields
I am an avid history as well as science buff and you are quite correct. The vast majority of technological advancement has been driven by war in nearly every field of science.
You’re thinking very primitively. All of that was out of necessity but there comes a point where the intelligent beings of a civilization understand the need for advancement in order to SOLVE conflict. I don’t think a civilization as a whole can ever make it past where we are today. I think it takes minds like Elon Musk to decide "the entirety of this civilization is never going to amount to anything, so let’s take my brain and other qualified intelligent individuals and start a new faction of our species on a different planet".
Just so you know though, the ‘conflict’ you speak of is purely due to some having more than others. At this point it’s not possible for our civilization to correct that. However, if a group of our species branches off and does their own thing, they can easily breed their society to have almost no conflict that could otherwise hinder progress.
VR and AR will be our great filter for space travel. It will be more interesting and cheaper to manufacture space travel from the comforts of your homepod than painstakingly engineer spacecraft and stations for outer space conquest.
Conversely, we're never going to colonise our own solar system without massive international cooperation. Putting a human on our closest satellite is one thing; colonising a different planet is going to require us to work together. Even if it were just NASA that sends a human to Mars, for instance, it's not going to come from resources and technology entirely built and developed by Americans, nor from launch platforms or control centres. An entire colony is another thing entirely.
Also, aggressive, war-like civilisations that conquer all just don't last all that long. Eventually, they crumble from inside, no matter their strength. That's obviously only based on humanity, but I personally believe that those civilisations who manage to reach into the stars will largely be peaceful and cooperative.
Freaky scenarios, mind blowing ideas, hazardous aliens. Im always left w excitment for the next video to come. Imagination at its best, awesome video my boy keep em coming. Please 🙏 👍
Every video of yours that I've watched so far cover things that i think about way too much 😁
I found a new obsession ❤️
The "Lost Colony" scenario would be interesting , mankind contacts an alien civilization and they want to know what happened to us, and they are humans.
This one seems unlikely since we’ve found fossils of multiple species of hominids that are related to us. For the lost colony scenario to work we would not expect to earth to have any fossils or animals anything like us.
@@SashazurVery good point.
That’s not possible
Simulation theory is giving me existential dread.
Thats because contemplating it is outside your operating parameters.
It's more of just a thought experiment,it's a very lofty theory.
Why would it matter if it was true?
It gives me existential hope.
It can't be proven, and could very easily be disproven in many ways. Also, get checked for OCD. You may just be having a hyper-fixation or compulsion regarding the popularization of simulation "theory".
I put quotations around "theory" as it cannot be a theory if it can't be adequately tested. I prefer the term "simulation speculation", which also happens to rhyme.
This channel is inspiring and spooky. I love it.
another unpleasant scenario could be something like in HP Lovecrafts ''shadow out of time'' where alien beings use their arcane technology to gather information and swap consciousness with civilizations they deem stable just as their own is about to collapse, not even out of any malicious intent since they otherwise regulate heavily the treatment of other beings and very carefully observe in order to do that as few times as possible, it just boils down to ''we cant stop this crisis from happening so its us or them''.
Not a video to watch if you are going to bed
Some very scary scenarios
Thank you John for another thought provoking video
Always fascinating and unique
I love them
I am watching this as I try and fall asleep. Oddly enough, the vastness of the universe and our likely inconsequential existence brings me calm.
@@Gilgamesh2010me too! I find it soothing
One thing I will say is that if complex life is rare and aliens have come across us. They might think we are worth looking out for even if we just have a fraction of their intelligence. They may even try to assist us in getting to the peak of our potential with training wheels.
The space comrades need to help us get rid of the bourgeoisie so we don't end up another fossil in a museum, another dead end. Beyond that, we can figure it out ourselves.
@@StatiCRjmone year ago
aren't angels aliens? what about the devil. he was a fallen angel kicked out of heaven and lives on earth. what if aliens are already here?
@@user-ejxomyqWhere are the angels and the Devil? I haven't seen them yet
Holy crap never even thought about #4. That scenario is scary
'The Star' is one of the best exo-archaeology short stories. The religious aspect is tedious but the description of finding an alien archive is deeply haunting.
Just refreshed youtube and spotted this. Not watched it yet but this is 24 mins of perfection for me, i know it. When i spotted it i made an actual groan of pleasure sound sat here on my own, just wanted to share that.
Always interesting topics John. Love to sit back close my eyes and listen.
Love these videos!!! Excellent.
The idea that humans are the most advanced civilization in the universe and that we will subjegate other aliens instead of the other way around is also possible
I'm 99% sure thats gona happen.
I love these lists! always good stuff to ponder over :D
I love the scenario you gave for reason #9 about ants and the technology we have to take care of them when they become a nuisance .... As usual always enjoy your videos. JMG
Scifi-BBC made a miniseries in 1997 I think it was. There was a very terrifying scenario and a seemingly unbeatable enemy and the series ended on a cliffhanger. Show was called Invasion Earth. I highly recommend it but there's only a crappy bootleg here on TH-cam but it works.
watching this on acid
You're pretty
Haven't watched it yet I'm gonna save it for later it's my birthday today and this is a gift and yes I already gave it a thumbs up. Thanks John
I look forward to your videos, JMG. Thank you for your content. Can't wait to see what comes next. Here's to closing in on 300,000 subs 🤘
This is the perfect video to calmly fall asleep
Great start. Love that truth was the first thing stayed, because it most Definitely needs to be understood but is most under thought.
Nice video but I think a lot of it is far fetched, especially when it comes to the way aliens behave. The thing is that if they can build warp drives, they've probably got access to a level of intellect way above ours. When people speculate on technology, they tend to keep the species (and the way it behaves) in a vacuum, while the technology advances. That's not what happens though. If we can speculate on how they would behave now, then they can speculate on how we would behave - and so unless they're thick as shit, they're not going to do anything presumptuous, like, "oh we'll do our greeting ritual which they know nothing about, and expect them to appreciate it and respond in the correct way". It's more likely that as a species gains more and more technology and intelligence, they become kind of like the brown paint that you get when you mix all the different paint colours - they become so hyper-versatile that the idea of them being a unique species loses meaning. Essentially advances in intelligence and technology ultimately result in the same species as it would with very different beginnings, eg. an ant race would eventually subsume human (and other) abilities/desires etc, as part of a natural widening of its abilities and understanding. This is why I don't think there are any intergalactic wars out there - wars seem pretty natural to us, but they are usually caused by the same kinds of things, like resources, or just plain because the enemy is "different" - be that in race, religion, society etc. I just think its unlikely that any of that exists out there in the super intelligent alien races. Its like children not understanding why adults don't like kids toys - its because they simply grow out of it. So, I do think there are aliens out there, and I think they may have visited, but I don't think they really care that much about us, they just leave us alone to do what we want, we're not a threat to them - they know where we're going, if we get there - and if we don't get there, then that's fine too.
I liked this comment a lot
This is also far fetched in a way. Assuming every civilisation acts on similar principals and mindset is always just silly to me.
@@Blowtorch87well I think the idea isn’t that civilizations all begin with certain commonalities, but rather that as civilizations advance they become increasingly defined by their scientific capabilities and knowledge, and that given we all live in the same universe with the same laws of physics it’s possible that differences in species just dictate where that species starts off their journey to solve a much more universal puzzle.
I’d even take it in a reversed direction and suggest that if we started exploring the universe we’d likely develop alternate means of communication including pheromones and physical connections in order to interact with more primitive creatures who are limited to just a few means of communication
Intellect and pacifism don't necessarily coincide, and even a hyprrintelligent alien race may be psychologically or physiologically more prone to aggression than humans anyways.
I'm not sure why you would believe this. It sounds like wishful thinking to me. Our increases in knowledge, culture, and technology have not appreciably reduced our conflicts. Why would it have that effect on other life forms?
JMG! The quality of your narration is always excellent. In fact, I use it as a benchmark for delivering my weather forecasts on radio. Time for me to divert some Patreon funds your way.
Imao, he cucked you
I really enjoy your videos
If you can accelerate an object with mass to relativistic speeds, it could become an incredibly powerful weapon. Imagine capturing a 10km asteroid, increasing its speed to 15% of the speed of light, and then directing it towards a planet. Such an impact would result in an extinction-level event. The capability to hurl rocks at high velocities has the potential to obliterate planets, given sufficient speed
Space trebuchet when
I’m so glad you’re alive John. I’m thankful for your voice and the amazing.content you keep releasing. Been a sub 40k subscriber and I still think you deserve so much more subs. It will happen.
Happy belated Thanksgiving John, thanks for the Friday evening video treat. Have a great weekend. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Unpleasant alien civilization scenario: we cant bang them
😢 the true dystopia
@@liamlol1539 the prove that god isnt real
This is an absolutely brilliant video. You're 10 scenarios would make 10 fantastic science fiction movies. All starring Tom Cruise of course.
Gotta love the long form videos, my man John never misses
Nown this is a true Creepypasta material!
Number #1 - Brethern Moons/Markers
Number#2 - Intergalactic Monoliths
Unpleasant alien's: like dolphins, alien's that think we are sexy.... And we don't return the sentiment
What if our ancestors were genetically engineered to be tool users in order to serve our creators. This would explain why there were so many variations of humanoids in a relatively short period of time. After they were done with us allowed us to just go feral. Now they may just be keeping an eye on our, progress.
Keep up the excellent content John. Your content has helped keep me sane during all the crazy the past few years.
And just when you thought the world could not get any crazier
Russia starts world war 3
Back to back bangers, back to back days from JMG
12:00 this is something I always wonder about imagine an alien civilization identical to humans coming across the voyager and seeing the pictures of stuff familiar to them
this was an excellent documentary
Have you forgotten one scenario? Where we are visited by aliens claiming we are their property, that they did seed life on earth and nurtured it to what it is today, and now it is harvest time, perhaps they live in deep gravity wells and 4 billion years on earth are only a few million where they live, visiting us with big fishing boats and harvesting machines
Ah yes “The Reapers” we have discounted that theory!
That's the plot to Jupiter Ascending......... Advanced human life is everywhere but rich families grow planets and harvest the population to make life extending elixirs from the dna of harvested humans
That is just another hypothesis, which assumes that humans are important. It's caused by our own ego. WE have not advanced, nor civilized; as such, we would have no value to an advanced alien civilization. No one would want to 'own' us.
@@d.e.b.b5788 - yes, just another hypothesis, but I did not notice it was meantioned? And 'important', do a cow think it is important when it is a sausage?
@@Razgar_Voxel - theory, not scenario?
Your content is amazing and I greatly appreciate the work you put into each video. Thankyou for everything you do! ❤️ 🙏 Please keep doing what you do best!
Some very good points in this video.
I finally started reading Cixin Liu’s The Three-Body Problem