You guys nailed this review. Sometimes BRS is late to the game with new products, in this case it really helps people who are concerned buying new products. Now we need to see AI hydra 32/64
Uh oh... Do Ecotech, and Kessil finally have another competitor for less $$$. $50 less for multiple fixtures is up to a couple hundred dollars less for similar performance. I smell a price drop on AI, Ecotech and Kessil once Reefers show their results with this light. Good job Red Sea and BRS team.
Great review Randy. Red Sea has really entered the LED game with a bang. I would love to see a review of the Rapid LED Corona light fixture. Its not a top manufacturer however I think they are worth a review.
I bought one of these redsea 90’s and fabricated onto the aquatic life t5 hybrid. It’s beautiful. I was able to do a comparison in store between radion, kessil, and redsea, the redsea led provides a great look and combined with 2 blue plus and 2 coral plus t5 bulbs it spectacular. The ReefBeat app was a breeze, and also part of my decision to go this direction. I didn’t have to buy anything else to hook up the led. And the other brands sure have some bad reviews as far as Wifi connectivity. So far I’m very impressed
Thanks for doing this review, it was much needed. So many reef keepers are afraid to try new things because they're new...which is why some people still insist on halides or insist that Kessils, etc are still the best. However, I believe in scientific results, and they show these lights are on par or even better than existing LED fixtures. I wish it was compatible with Neptune though.
I have three on my tank and except during moonlight mode, my tank is not overly blue. And while yes I’m newer to the hobby, I do appreciate its simplicity.
I think these will blow the AI prime out of the water. I love the simplicity of the light. Very easy to set up with the app. The fact this is stronger than all the other lights around the same wattage is impressive. I have one on. 2ft X 2ft cube and I couldn’t be happier. I’ve had this light up and running for about a week after it was released. The colors that have come out of the corals is amazing. I use to run a Chinese black box before this and that light worked pretty well but nowhere near the Red Sea led 90. Please keep us updated if you go this route. Good luck and happy Reefing.
I wonder if one could add a daylight strip to make the pinks and purples come out better. My big wish for my new tank is bartlett's anthias, which are quite literally my favorite color, so you could see how that would be important to me.
Great video as always gents. Good to know that that other companies are chiming in on developing affordable lighting. Hence us as hobbyists to save money and have more options to setup different tanks etc...
I just received my new RSR 425XL Deluxe with the Red Sea ReefLed 90s. Since I am moving my mixed reef from a 20x20 cube with Chinese Black Box, I will be extremely interested in how my corals respond. Thank you for this review Randy.
Led lights have come a long way but I'm still a massive t5 fan, I love the spectrum of the office cube tank that's aways shown in light reviews that runs the ati t5 unit (15:14) do you know what combo of bulbs it was running at the time it was filmed?
I have 3 RSR 90 over my 4’ RSR 425. The color is blended well with no disco effect. The color is very blue; if I crank my whites up I get more of a pink coral+ bulb color. I’m using mine at 70% and my Acros are encrusting and have polyp extension. I’m apprehensive about the Marketing term “Reef Safe”; I still believe you can bleach your corals out if you max these lights out. In regards to connectivity, I have had numerous problems. My schedule runs from 15:00-02:00. About once a month, I’ll come home from work at 06:30 (always on a Sun morning) and my lights will still be on.
I was having the same problem. Then after the last update I did I haven’t had one problem at all with the connectivity. I can’t say it enough how much I like this light. Especially with the tank mount arm that you can fold up.
You guys only measured to 18 inches high, but I want to know how much lights I will need for a 24 inch deep tank. It is a 48x24x24 inch mixed reef tank. Also how many will I need for an sps dominated tank?
Re: Moonlight, does it even do moonlight right? Like does it only show it when that phase of the Moon is actually up in the sky? (hint it's not up all night long in most cases) Or does it just try to mimic intensity (which even a full moon is so much less bright than daytime that 1% intensity is orders of magnitudes brighter than what it should be. So to make the claim that it could start coral spawning and what not is a bit of a stretch.
I run the moon cycle at 2% percent intensity and it looks phenomenal. Also it really doesn’t look too bright. I think the moon cycle is a great application on this light.
Super impressed! I am having a hard time chosing a light for a 12 x 24 wide nuvo! I was worried that I couldnt get enough spread to cover 24 inches so I bought a aquatic life edge strip light and it sucks! It grows NOTHING but algae, maybe because the white channels warm white is way to yellow! I am replacing it and was considering this, ai prime 16 and believe it or not 2 fluval 20 watts that are very cheap, cute and come with a mount! They cant be mounted high though which I only have about 5 inches on top anyway If I use 2 lights! If I mount from the side I can still center it and be able to access my kitchen cabinets! What would you do? Can I get a 24 inch spread from a1 prime? Do you think that two 20 watts mounted 5 inches up will give me enough spread being I am using two? I love the price of the fluvals (85 a piece on ebay)but just dont want to throw money away again! I dont know much about them and everyone knows that red sea and a1 primes are big names
im using a 40 Gal cube and i have my plating monti about 6 inches from the surface and i think i fryed it. Only the new growth is still red. i was using acclimation mode and the blues were at about 82% and the whites at 50%. anything i should be noting here? i have a chalice about 2 inches lower then that, i lke it alot. i have since turned the lights down
Can the blue channel be dialled back a bit via the app? I think I would prefer somewhere between the 15k and 20k presets. Great review and useful information. Much appreciated.
@@BRStv Thank you for your reply. I like the simplicity of this light I think its the way forward. Much like the Kessils we don't need access to every single colour combination. Anyway that's my mind made up Red Sea 90s it is. Thanks again.
Could the same PAR test be done over a Red Sea 170 tank? It would be to see the difference from the 24” cube and to check what Red Sea claim is correct?
Just put 2 of these on our reefer 250 :) great leds easy to use and set up also the look of the corals is brilliant :) Love the shimmer and colours :) Have happy sps and lps 4 weeks in and all growing well !!! :) see my videos for my reviews
Nastynemo I have the same setting as yours. But I only have LPS and most are at the bottom end of the tank. Can you please share you Reefled profile and do you know what your PAR range is?
Which reefled would you guys opt for in a red sea max nano with standard mounting height & frag height of just under half way point on the tank for that 250-350 par range. From what I’m seeing 160s seems to be the go for ideal par at this depth & a reef led 90 wouldn’t be strong enough.
For a max nano, the ReefLED90 will likely hit the low end of your desired range. The 160 is overkill, but the nice thing is that you can always turn it down in intensity as needed to fine tune the intensity
I still believe the mark up on LEDs is nuts. There's probably $40 worth of led diodes, $20 case, $10 R&D , $20 manufacturing. This can be a $200 light. This could wake up ecotech and bring down the cost of quality led.
We haven't had a chance to play around withe the 50w version, but if it's anything like the 90w, it's a great option. The Reef LED fixtures seem to have much less of that disco ball effect than other LED fixtures out there, so if that's important to you, the 50 would be a better choice.
@@BRStv thanks for your reply I have looked on redsea website and the par output of the 50 and 90 are very similar if not better from what I understand on some settings I would be great if you could do a quick par comparison. Thanks again
We unfortunately couldn't test every last light on our website, but I'll never say never! The A160's are great lights and we have a lot of experience running them. If you have any questions about them, ask away and we're happy to help!
@@BRStv Yes that would be great as it is a special led. I think the spread should be even better than 90. Do you have good results with it even if they have a narrow spectrum? How are they compared to the kessils?
Hi. What light solution would you recommend for a 72x30x24 tank. Lps the odd sps. I can't find a decent solution that doesn't cost the earth or look very busy.
Ok brs .... I know there is 3 sizes to this lights mounting arms... my aqua medic XENIA130 is 25 inches from front to back... the smallest mounting arms are no use... but I can't decide if the 2nd or 3rd biggest arms are a better suit as I prefer my light to be as close as possible to the centre of the top surface area of the tank .. help guys thanks
If I were in your shoes, I would select the mid-sized mount for one main reason. That is that the rockwork of your tank is likely to be tallest towards the back. So, even though this option won't be perfectly centered, it'll be ideal for a vast majority of the aquascapes out there. If your aquascape is built differently than that and you have a very specific lighting need, then you may want to reconsider that suggestion. At the end of the day, you're right on that boarder between the two sizes and I don't think you can go wrong with either one given your tank's dimensions.
I have been reading about multiple complaints, explaining how the power supply is "Too hot to handle", with temperature readings between 170 to 190 plus degrees. Oh the growing pains of the first of anything... let me know when the 2nd generation is released.
They do make a dimmable model now, however, it doesn't have built-in control. That said, it can be hooked up to popular aquarium controllers like the Neptune Apex.
I believe they accidentally quoted the size for the reefled 50, not 90. I will gladly taking a larger sized light fixture to ensure it has a large heatsink and good fan. The additional mass will help keep the led's cooler improving their lifespan.
Still think the kessil A360x is better even dearer yes , but who wants a full blue tank from Red Sea , I may has well buy actinic t5s lol No Ryan , good review Randy , thanks , always clearly explained 👍
While we haven't tested on a 30" tank ourselves, I wouldn't expect this to be an issue. You may have to run an extra light or two, depending on your par goals at that 30" depth and your tank dimensions.
@Bulk Reef Supply totally agree. They knocked this one out of the park. I really like the shimmer, the mounting arm, and the app. I just wish they would make a bigger option how radion does the 15s and the 30s. I can’t stress how much I like these lights. The whole reason I went this route instead of radion or hydras because this review. Great in-depth review.
I'll take the zetlight Q maven II over these lights. Would be nice if you guys updated your stock in the latest of zetlight. They've been out for 5 months already. Fanless and waterproof. With new lens system. Probably the most underrated light out there. and under talked about
Hello love the video i have a aquarium of 120 cm 50 cm wide and 50 deep can i keep 2 of these i have a mix reef but im only 17 so its a big upgrade for me i have a lancia 2 right noe could you make a video on it I haven’t found any video of thx ☺️ 🤗. Because 760 euros is a arm and leg for me xD
Both are similarly sized lights in terms of overall power (both 90w). I'd encourage you to watch the A360X investigates video, look at the data, and make the determination of what would better fit your setup/goals 🙂
I'm configuring a Hamilton Cebu Sun fixture with 2x 250 watt Radium bulbs and 4x T5s at 10,000K. The cost will be around $850 including bulbs. That is maybe $600 less than these LEDs. Of course, Kessil, et al. are even more expensive. Edit: I revised the language to eliminate any thought that I was trolling. I remain bewildered. BRS posits elsewhere that halides+T5s are the standard to be met for SPS. T5s alone, with enough quality bulbs and a quality fixture, are the easiest bulletproof approach for SPS. LEDs are problematic in getting the spectrum right and getting the right intensity. The former is being addressed lately, but the latter is inherent to the technology. Let me explain. For T5s and metal halides, a large aquarium is not that much more expensive to light than a small one. Longer or more powerful bulbs are only modestly more expensive. But for LEDs, if we hold the fixture constant, the cost for more light coverage or punch at depth is directly proportional to the number of fixtures. Go beyond 3' long and you'll be bleeding money in comparison. While I see the appeal in playing with spectrum on one's phone, this technology seems to be a dead end for SPS except in very small tanks. For example, for a 2 foot frag tank or coral quarantine, dimmable LEDs would be hard to beat.
BulkReefSupplyCom I appreciate your reply, and it's obvious that my current view is strongly influenced by BRS's own videos! You see, some of us do pay attention. Support at Hamilton claims that the heat issue is overblown, particularly for ballasts under 400 watts and in units with active cooling. Of course support is not unbiased (though Hamilton sells various kinds of lights). Randy, one other change is the widespread use of screened or open tops. That allows the use of fan cooling. The widespread use of ATOs allows us not to worry about evaporation. One more thought, this time about energy usage. The XR15 uses a max of 95 watts. But I would consider only 4x this unit for hard core SPS. That *will* be less than the unit I am configuring, but ... it's not *hugely* less. I wish you would evaluate the Hamilton Cebu Sun unit. Based on what I have seen on your channel, it sure looks good. Not very pretty, though.
I was pretty much sold on these! Seem to be exactly what I am looking for! I hate a lot of shimmer, kessil has the least i think but I dont like a tiny little light either. My hubby hates the look of them as well. Men love big toys..hahah. But whats holding me back is the spectrum. If I am understanding this right there is no red and green ect? Just 2 channels whites and blues! Or maybe very little. I know you said you didint know the end out come of growth and colorization, I hate for my corals to be guinea pigs! . I would go with radions if they didint make you choose pro or blue Starting to look like hydras for me and I saw them at my lfs the other day and the one lfs that was brightly lit the shimmer wasnt so bad and I went to another and its very dark in there and it was as if someone placed a strobe light in the tank! I do plan to add a Hybrid ty5 later on but not until I upgrade my tank to a bigger size, so I guess I have to endure the shimmer. Anyway to dyi a diffuser for a hydra? Can you tello me of another brand. I also dont like kinds you hang from ceiling until I upgrade my hubby might build a canopy for my t5 hybrid. I was looking for something that will fit in the ai hybrid fixtures or as a stand alone light was on the larger side, dosnt need to be hung from ceiling and not a ton of shimmer. This is small but at least its very thick.
If you hate a lot of shimmer have less disturbance on the top of your water that will solve your problem with that. Also from what I’ve heard from others these reef leds are better than hydra. Corals in the ocean get more blue light cause that’s the spectrum that goes through the water the best and furthest. My friends run leds but I still run 20k halides and a couple of fluorescent bulbs. Also there is a video somewhere I seen with before and after from this channel I think with these leds and the coral growth of so many months was astounding.
I’m having a lot of issues with the connectivity of this device. I tried everything! Even deleted the app and restarted the whole thing and now it won’t connect to the wifi at all. I know it’s not the wifi because everything else works. Anyone else having this issue? I know I’m not the only one because my buddy at work receives no connectivity alerts on his phone
Sorry, just seen this, I had the same issue, I still can't get the light to connect through my phone, however I did have an older tablet (still running the latest Android build) and it had no issue connecting, not much help I know, but try a different device.
dave smith I was having the same issues. After the last update I haven’t had one issue. It’s been up and running with zero issues for about four or five minutes. Hopefully it ends up working out for you.
So its $1400 for a 4 foot tank how much did it cost them to make it thats what i want to 👂 so i no how much im getting ripped off cant wait for thease lower brands to take over the market so reefing can be fun again for $350 for 1 ⬛ foot i dnt think so
Well they're not going to let you know what their manufacturing cost is, and to be honest between two separate identical looking figures there can be a huge range of cost associated with them based on tolerances, it's just the nature of the beast when it comes to the Chinese manufacturing behemoth. That said, just the look of the LED die doesn't strike me as super high end, again there could be different tolerances etc, but compared to something like the Kessil array where everything is spaced out evenly, it just looks more professional/high end. Now whether or not that is simply a feel for what's going on and not reality I can't say.
Once you've used a premium brand, such as Ecotech in my case, you'll never go back to your cheap Chinese black box fire hazard. There is just no comparison in terms of quality, looks, functionality and most importantly being customer support.
@@andeyking i have ecotechs on my 120 nobody's using black box what im saying is that thease high end brands are killing us on cost and it probably takes not even half of what it costs to make them me personally i prefer kessil over these for the 💰
Yep there's some insane black box reef tanks out there, don't be fooled by big brand led if your on a budget. Fire hazard is a common response but an extremely uncommon event.
Metal halids looks the most natural to me. What's up with those led's like this one that looks like you're in a blue nightclub? I don't get it why people like this. It has nothing to do with the light you see when diving.
I would give it more time. I think you will be pleasantly happy with these. The colors that has emerged from these lights are stunning. Also if you look at the LED cluster there is many different blues and purples. It’s not just one or two blues and one or two whites. I was skeptical about just having blue and white but I think the colors in this light are great.
You think so? The kessil a360x has the same power. Plus the red sea comes with controllability in the fixture. The kessil requires a seperate controller for extra money looking at 900 for a 4 foot tank. 700 for two red sea reefleds.
This unit is inadequate for SPS, judging by the PAR numbers, until 4 units are used. At 3 units there are areas throughout the tank where PAR is a bit low, or so it seems to me. That this unit is good for LED lighting points to the problem with this technology. BTW, Randy, a reef does *not* look like these Windex tanks.
The optics look too blue - which may be great for coral health - but gives the tank a bit of a highlighter feel that doesn't replicate what one sees when diving. Unfortunate because it sounds like the quality and ease of use of this unit is noteworthy. I'm looking at the Orphek unit instead.
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Sweet. This is the review I was waiting for!
you've come a long way randy!
Thank you sooooo much for these type of videos!! Very informative and very very helpful!! Keep up the good work BRS!!
You guys nailed this review. Sometimes BRS is late to the game with new products, in this case it really helps people who are concerned buying new products. Now we need to see AI hydra 32/64
Just bought two of the 160s. Love these lights.
Uh oh... Do Ecotech, and Kessil finally have another competitor for less $$$.
$50 less for multiple fixtures is up to a couple hundred dollars less for similar performance.
I smell a price drop on AI, Ecotech and Kessil once Reefers show their results with this light.
Good job Red Sea and BRS team.
One year later: nope.
3 years later: nope :/ people just assume it’s garbage since it comes with the tank kit.
Great review Randy. Red Sea has really entered the LED game with a bang. I would love to see a review of the Rapid LED Corona light fixture. Its not a top manufacturer however I think they are worth a review.
I bought one of these redsea 90’s and fabricated onto the aquatic life t5 hybrid. It’s beautiful. I was able to do a comparison in store between radion, kessil, and redsea, the redsea led provides a great look and combined with 2 blue plus and 2 coral plus t5 bulbs it spectacular. The ReefBeat app was a breeze, and also part of my decision to go this direction. I didn’t have to buy anything else to hook up the led. And the other brands sure have some bad reviews as far as Wifi connectivity. So far I’m very impressed
How difficult was it to hook up to the T-5 hybrid ? I’ve been wanting to go with this route for a while.
you find it better than the radion?
Thanks for doing this review, it was much needed. So many reef keepers are afraid to try new things because they're new...which is why some people still insist on halides or insist that Kessils, etc are still the best. However, I believe in scientific results, and they show these lights are on par or even better than existing LED fixtures. I wish it was compatible with Neptune though.
I like what I see. Nothing complicated about the fixture. Does its job for the wattage it is and at a reasonable price point. Thanks BRS.
I have three on my tank and except during moonlight mode, my tank is not overly blue. And while yes I’m newer to the hobby, I do appreciate its simplicity.
Need a video like this on the 160s
what about testing the 50w version?
love to see this. This is more par than I need but love the light! Like to see compairson to an ai prime! ai prime being 60 !
I think these will blow the AI prime out of the water. I love the simplicity of the light. Very easy to set up with the app. The fact this is stronger than all the other lights around the same wattage is impressive. I have one on. 2ft X 2ft cube and I couldn’t be happier. I’ve had this light up and running for about a week after it was released. The colors that have come out of the corals is amazing. I use to run a Chinese black box before this and that light worked pretty well but nowhere near the Red Sea led 90. Please keep us updated if you go this route. Good luck and happy Reefing.
@@mikeremington7063 how do you like the light now?
Brian Walsh absolutely love it. It grows sps at the bottom of my 50g cube. Which is 20” deep
Outstanding review. I want to love this light...if only they had some universal mounting options for those of us with canopies or real tank trim.
I was wondering that. I can't just use cable and hang them myself in a canopy
Very in depth review - Thanks !
Absolutely fantastic! Good job red sea you are going to kill the market. Good job brs
What about compatibility with AquaticLife DX18 hybrid fixture?
I wonder if one could add a daylight strip to make the pinks and purples come out better. My big wish for my new tank is bartlett's anthias, which are quite literally my favorite color, so you could see how that would be important to me.
thanks, BRS!
Awesome video as always 👌 👏 👍 I would really love to see some decibel ratings done on these reviews too....especially when using high intensity.
Since this covers UV range does that mean you don't have to add a separate UV light that does Sterilization?
Any plans to do a review of new Reef Led160?
We're done with light testing for now, but we may do another round in early 2021
Great video as always gents. Good to know that that other companies are chiming in on developing affordable lighting. Hence us as hobbyists to save money and have more options to setup different tanks etc...
Its literally the second most expensive brand
When are you going to do the Red Sea 160 led?
It's not on the schedule yet, but we'll have another round of lighting tests in the not so distant future 🙂
I just received my new RSR 425XL Deluxe with the Red Sea ReefLed 90s. Since I am moving my mixed reef from a 20x20 cube with Chinese Black Box, I will be extremely interested in how my corals respond. Thank you for this review Randy.
How does it look now?
Led lights have come a long way but I'm still a massive t5 fan, I love the spectrum of the office cube tank that's aways shown in light reviews that runs the ati t5 unit (15:14) do you know what combo of bulbs it was running at the time it was filmed?
How many of these would I need for 55 gallon tank if wanted to grow sps?
Thanks
I have 3 RSR 90 over my 4’ RSR 425. The color is blended well with no disco effect. The color is very blue; if I crank my whites up I get more of a pink coral+ bulb color.
I’m using mine at 70% and my Acros are encrusting and have polyp extension. I’m apprehensive about the Marketing term “Reef Safe”; I still believe you can bleach your corals out if you max these lights out.
In regards to connectivity, I have had numerous problems. My schedule runs from 15:00-02:00. About once a month, I’ll come home from work at 06:30 (always on a Sun morning) and my lights will still be on.
I was having the same problem. Then after the last update I did I haven’t had one problem at all with the connectivity. I can’t say it enough how much I like this light. Especially with the tank mount arm that you can fold up.
You guys only measured to 18 inches high, but I want to know how much lights I will need for a 24 inch deep tank. It is a 48x24x24 inch mixed reef tank. Also how many will I need for an sps dominated tank?
Re: Moonlight, does it even do moonlight right? Like does it only show it when that phase of the Moon is actually up in the sky? (hint it's not up all night long in most cases) Or does it just try to mimic intensity (which even a full moon is so much less bright than daytime that 1% intensity is orders of magnitudes brighter than what it should be. So to make the claim that it could start coral spawning and what not is a bit of a stretch.
I run the moon cycle at 2% percent intensity and it looks phenomenal. Also it really doesn’t look too bright. I think the moon cycle is a great application on this light.
Wil you guys do the 160s at some stage? @ 60cm depth 😄
Super impressed! I am having a hard time chosing a light for a 12 x 24 wide nuvo! I was worried that I couldnt get enough spread to cover 24 inches so I bought a aquatic life edge strip light and it sucks! It grows NOTHING but algae, maybe because the white channels warm white is way to yellow! I am replacing it and was considering this, ai prime 16 and believe it or not 2 fluval 20 watts that are very cheap, cute and come with a mount! They cant be mounted high though which I only have about 5 inches on top anyway If I use 2 lights! If I mount from the side I can still center it and be able to access my kitchen cabinets! What would you do? Can I get a 24 inch spread from a1 prime? Do you think that two 20 watts mounted 5 inches up will give me enough spread being I am using two? I love the price of the fluvals (85 a piece on ebay)but just dont want to throw money away again! I dont know much about them and everyone knows that red sea and a1 primes are big names
im using a 40 Gal cube and i have my plating monti about 6 inches from the surface and i think i fryed it. Only the new growth is still red. i was using acclimation mode and the blues were at about 82% and the whites at 50%. anything i should be noting here? i have a chalice about 2 inches lower then that, i lke it alot.
i have since turned the lights down
Love it
Question... @7min you said it's a 2x4 foot tank but in the upper right corner is says 40x20 test tank. Whats the correct measurement of the tank?
I don't think they were testing next to the walls of the tank .
My same concern. Brs??
Wow stronger than the A360X for less of a price
Can the blue channel be dialled back a bit via the app? I think I would prefer somewhere between the 15k and 20k presets. Great review and useful information. Much appreciated.
The Reefbeat app gives you full control of the white vs blue spectrum.
@@BRStv Thank you for your reply. I like the simplicity of this light I think its the way forward. Much like the Kessils we don't need access to every single colour combination. Anyway that's my mind made up Red Sea 90s it is. Thanks again.
Could the same PAR test be done over a Red Sea 170 tank? It would be to see the difference from the 24” cube and to check what Red Sea claim is correct?
Hi, very good Video 👍 can you test please the new maxspect jump LED 💐💐💐
We don't carry that light, so I'm not sure you'll see us do a video on it. But I'll never say never!
Just put 2 of these on our reefer 250 :) great leds easy to use and set up also the look of the corals is brilliant :)
Love the shimmer and colours :)
Have happy sps and lps 4 weeks in and all growing well !!! :)
see my videos for my reviews
Nastynemo I have the same setting as yours. But I only have LPS and most are at the bottom end of the tank. Can you please share you Reefled profile and do you know what your PAR range is?
Which reefled would you guys opt for in a red sea max nano with standard mounting height & frag height of just under half way point on the tank for that 250-350 par range.
From what I’m seeing 160s seems to be the go for ideal par at this depth & a reef led 90 wouldn’t be strong enough.
For a max nano, the ReefLED90 will likely hit the low end of your desired range. The 160 is overkill, but the nice thing is that you can always turn it down in intensity as needed to fine tune the intensity
I still believe the mark up on LEDs is nuts. There's probably $40 worth of led diodes, $20 case, $10 R&D , $20 manufacturing. This can be a $200 light. This could wake up ecotech and bring down the cost of quality led.
Is there any way to mount these on the aquatic life T5 hybrid fixture
It takes some DIY with changing out a few screws to get it to mount properly, but we've seen it done by other reefers in the past.
My budget means I can get 2 x ai prime hds or 2 x reefled 50 what would you recommend?
We haven't had a chance to play around withe the 50w version, but if it's anything like the 90w, it's a great option. The Reef LED fixtures seem to have much less of that disco ball effect than other LED fixtures out there, so if that's important to you, the 50 would be a better choice.
@@BRStv thanks for your reply I have looked on redsea website and the par output of the 50 and 90 are very similar if not better from what I understand on some settings I would be great if you could do a quick par comparison. Thanks again
Bulk Reef Supply can you review the 50?
Why you not tested the 160s?
We unfortunately couldn't test every last light on our website, but I'll never say never! The A160's are great lights and we have a lot of experience running them. If you have any questions about them, ask away and we're happy to help!
@@BRStv Yes that would be great as it is a special led. I think the spread should be even better than 90. Do you have good results with it even if they have a narrow spectrum? How are they compared to the kessils?
Hi. What light solution would you recommend for a 72x30x24 tank. Lps the odd sps. I can't find a decent solution that doesn't cost the earth or look very busy.
I think 3 of these will work just fine. Especially if you did a t-5 and led combo.
Ok brs .... I know there is 3 sizes to this lights mounting arms... my aqua medic XENIA130 is 25 inches from front to back... the smallest mounting arms are no use... but I can't decide if the 2nd or 3rd biggest arms are a better suit as I prefer my light to be as close as possible to the centre of the top surface area of the tank .. help guys thanks
If I were in your shoes, I would select the mid-sized mount for one main reason. That is that the rockwork of your tank is likely to be tallest towards the back. So, even though this option won't be perfectly centered, it'll be ideal for a vast majority of the aquascapes out there. If your aquascape is built differently than that and you have a very specific lighting need, then you may want to reconsider that suggestion. At the end of the day, you're right on that boarder between the two sizes and I don't think you can go wrong with either one given your tank's dimensions.
@@BRStv thank you brs... I actually have ordered the mid sized lads so thank you kindly ..
I have been reading about multiple complaints, explaining how the power supply is "Too hot to handle", with temperature readings between 170 to 190 plus degrees.
Oh the growing pains of the first of anything... let me know when the 2nd generation is released.
Is there and adjustable & progrmable aquatic life t5 fixture yet?
They do make a dimmable model now, however, it doesn't have built-in control. That said, it can be hooked up to popular aquarium controllers like the Neptune Apex.
Bulk Reef Supply do you guys carry this model?
6.1x5.3x2.2 is not 5x5x2. It is 42% bigger. It may not seem like a big deal to round down like that but it adds up quickly when short on space.
I believe they accidentally quoted the size for the reefled 50, not 90. I will gladly taking a larger sized light fixture to ensure it has a large heatsink and good fan. The additional mass will help keep the led's cooler improving their lifespan.
Nice
Still think the kessil A360x is better even dearer yes , but who wants a full blue tank from Red Sea , I may has well buy actinic t5s lol
No Ryan , good review Randy , thanks , always clearly explained 👍
How many of these for 36" x 30 x 36" (length, height, width) 160 gallon?
You're looking at at least four. Probably best in a square pattern (two rows of two fixtures).
@@BRStv thank you for that. I went with the giesemann vervve plus in the end how many of those would you suggest? I know you did a video on those to.
hi would this light work on a 30inch deep tank thanks
While we haven't tested on a 30" tank ourselves, I wouldn't expect this to be an issue. You may have to run an extra light or two, depending on your par goals at that 30" depth and your tank dimensions.
ahh ok cool thanks 👍
How is this compared to the AI prime 16HD?
The ReefLED90 is a more powerful light. It's a 90w fixture vs the Prime at 59w.
Is it possible to control with a Neptune Apex?
@@BRStv Has either Red Sea or Neptune announced planned integration?
Do these have a shimmer similar to kessil? If so then I might be sold on these. My current a360w is going bad so I'm in the market
Not quite as pronounced, but pretty close to the shimmer of a Kessil actually. They did a good job with this fixture!
@Bulk Reef Supply totally agree. They knocked this one out of the park. I really like the shimmer, the mounting arm, and the app. I just wish they would make a bigger option how radion does the 15s and the 30s. I can’t stress how much I like these lights. The whole reason I went this route instead of radion or hydras because this review. Great in-depth review.
I have a five foot tank, would three of these be enough?
This would be great for LPS, and Softies. For SPS you will want to center these in the tank, and positions them under the light fixtures. (:
Thank you!
Yes i have 3 over my 5ft mainly SPS and even growing sps on the sand bed
how it is against the radion?
We'll let you decide 😉 Here is the link to the Radion XR15 video that we did.
th-cam.com/video/rl5826ZkiIg/w-d-xo.html
I'll take the zetlight Q maven II over these lights. Would be nice if you guys updated your stock in the latest of zetlight. They've been out for 5 months already. Fanless and waterproof. With new lens system. Probably the most underrated light out there. and under talked about
Hello love the video i have a aquarium of 120 cm 50 cm wide and 50 deep can i keep 2 of these i have a mix reef but im only 17 so its a big upgrade for me i have a lancia 2 right noe could you make a video on it I haven’t found any video of thx ☺️ 🤗. Because 760 euros is a arm and leg for me xD
Two should do the trick for LPS and softies. Any SPS would have to be placed up towards the very top or you may struggle to get enough intensity.
@@BRStv thank you for answering quick 🙃
Fixture is definitely better than expected, cost and par, I have xr15’s, who uses the red and green really great vid Randy as always,,,,,,!
Looks like a Kessil dense matrix led
I'm sticking with Two xr30 for the price
Better than Kessil A360?
Both are similarly sized lights in terms of overall power (both 90w). I'd encourage you to watch the A360X investigates video, look at the data, and make the determination of what would better fit your setup/goals 🙂
@@BRStv Think we are going with the Ecotech Gen 5 Pro with the ReefBrite XHO-K15’s
Royal blue LEDs are very efficient so no wonder that this fixture has a good PAR output but I simply dont like this high RB look. So no lamp for me
I'm configuring a Hamilton Cebu Sun fixture with 2x 250 watt Radium bulbs and 4x T5s at 10,000K. The cost will be around $850 including bulbs. That is maybe $600 less than these LEDs.
Of course, Kessil, et al. are even more expensive.
Edit: I revised the language to eliminate any thought that I was trolling. I remain bewildered. BRS posits elsewhere that halides+T5s are the standard to be met for SPS. T5s alone, with enough quality bulbs and a quality fixture, are the easiest bulletproof approach for SPS. LEDs are problematic in getting the spectrum right and getting the right intensity. The former is being addressed lately, but the latter is inherent to the technology.
Let me explain. For T5s and metal halides, a large aquarium is not that much more expensive to light than a small one. Longer or more powerful bulbs are only modestly more expensive. But for LEDs, if we hold the fixture constant, the cost for more light coverage or punch at depth is directly proportional to the number of fixtures. Go beyond 3' long and you'll be bleeding money in comparison.
While I see the appeal in playing with spectrum on one's phone, this technology seems to be a dead end for SPS except in very small tanks. For example, for a 2 foot frag tank or coral quarantine, dimmable LEDs would be hard to beat.
BulkReefSupplyCom I appreciate your reply, and it's obvious that my current view is strongly influenced by BRS's own videos! You see, some of us do pay attention.
Support at Hamilton claims that the heat issue is overblown, particularly for ballasts under 400 watts and in units with active cooling. Of course support is not unbiased (though Hamilton sells various kinds of lights).
Randy, one other change is the widespread use of screened or open tops. That allows the use of fan cooling. The widespread use of ATOs allows us not to worry about evaporation.
One more thought, this time about energy usage. The XR15 uses a max of 95 watts. But I would consider only 4x this unit for hard core SPS. That *will* be less than the unit I am configuring, but ... it's not *hugely* less.
I wish you would evaluate the Hamilton Cebu Sun unit. Based on what I have seen on your channel, it sure looks good. Not very pretty, though.
I would love to see these beside Kessils. Theese look way to pink/purple for my taste but I might be wrong.
I feel the same. Have you made some real life comparisons in the meantime?
Found some comparison pictures on reefbuilders dot com in their Reefled 90 review. And yes, the Reefled has a way more RB look than the Kessil.
@@Harolddespui don't know what RB means. But Kessil it is!
@@andreasmithander314 Royal Blue, deep blue with a purple-ish hue. Kessil has more "normal" blue.
@@Harolddespui ah! I see..
shit my nose is bleeding with all that information
6:26 the par reading looks like a face
Do the red sea 50
I was pretty much sold on these! Seem to be exactly what I am looking for! I hate a lot of shimmer, kessil has the least i think but I dont like a tiny little light either. My hubby hates the look of them as well. Men love big toys..hahah. But whats holding me back is the spectrum. If I am understanding this right there is no red and green ect? Just 2 channels whites and blues! Or maybe very little. I know you said you didint know the end out come of growth and colorization, I hate for my corals to be guinea pigs! . I would go with radions if they didint make you choose pro or blue Starting to look like hydras for me and I saw them at my lfs the other day and the one lfs that was brightly lit the shimmer wasnt so bad and I went to another and its very dark in there and it was as if someone placed a strobe light in the tank! I do plan to add a Hybrid ty5 later on but not until I upgrade my tank to a bigger size, so I guess I have to endure the shimmer. Anyway to dyi a diffuser for a hydra? Can you tello me of another brand. I also dont like kinds you hang from ceiling until I upgrade my hubby might build a canopy for my t5 hybrid. I was looking for something that will fit in the ai hybrid fixtures or as a stand alone light was on the larger side, dosnt need to be hung from ceiling and not a ton of shimmer. This is small but at least its very thick.
If you hate a lot of shimmer have less disturbance on the top of your water that will solve your problem with that. Also from what I’ve heard from others these reef leds are better than hydra. Corals in the ocean get more blue light cause that’s the spectrum that goes through the water the best and furthest. My friends run leds but I still run 20k halides and a couple of fluorescent bulbs. Also there is a video somewhere I seen with before and after from this channel I think with these leds and the coral growth of so many months was astounding.
Why does it look so big and bulky for a single cluster of leds?
I think the other brands look better, and hydras are also simlar price.
I’m having a lot of issues with the connectivity of this device. I tried everything! Even deleted the app and restarted the whole thing and now it won’t connect to the wifi at all. I know it’s not the wifi because everything else works. Anyone else having this issue? I know I’m not the only one because my buddy at work receives no connectivity alerts on his phone
Sorry, just seen this, I had the same issue, I still can't get the light to connect through my phone, however I did have an older tablet (still running the latest Android build) and it had no issue connecting, not much help I know, but try a different device.
dave smith I was having the same issues. After the last update I haven’t had one issue. It’s been up and running with zero issues for about four or five minutes. Hopefully it ends up working out for you.
I’d buy it if it weren’t for the low amount of light preferences.
So its $1400 for a 4 foot tank how much did it cost them to make it thats what i want to 👂 so i no how much im getting ripped off cant wait for thease lower brands to take over the market so reefing can be fun again for $350 for 1 ⬛ foot i dnt think so
Well they're not going to let you know what their manufacturing cost is, and to be honest between two separate identical looking figures there can be a huge range of cost associated with them based on tolerances, it's just the nature of the beast when it comes to the Chinese manufacturing behemoth.
That said, just the look of the LED die doesn't strike me as super high end, again there could be different tolerances etc, but compared to something like the Kessil array where everything is spaced out evenly, it just looks more professional/high end. Now whether or not that is simply a feel for what's going on and not reality I can't say.
Once you've used a premium brand, such as Ecotech in my case, you'll never go back to your cheap Chinese black box fire hazard. There is just no comparison in terms of quality, looks, functionality and most importantly being customer support.
@@andeyking i have ecotechs on my 120 nobody's using black box what im saying is that thease high end brands are killing us on cost and it probably takes not even half of what it costs to make them me personally i prefer kessil over these for the 💰
You can DIY your reef light. Get some Cree XHP50 6500k. Your SPS will grow like weed. Can be done less than $100
Yep there's some insane black box reef tanks out there, don't be fooled by big brand led if your on a budget. Fire hazard is a common response but an extremely uncommon event.
still missing the green and red spectrum?
@@BRStv well they say the corals doesnt need it is that true? also the t5 bulbs has also red spectrum so iam confused
Well the Kessils with exception to 360X don't have red or green spectrum either & seem to grow corals well so I'm inclined to agree.
Metal halids looks the most natural to me. What's up with those led's like this one that looks like you're in a blue nightclub? I don't get it why people like this. It has nothing to do with the light you see when diving.
I still run halides and a couple of fluorescent bulbs. 3 20k 250w Hamilton halides. Love them and grows corals like crazy.
I bought this but I'm a sucker for color reproduction :( now I'm thinking of just eating up the cost and getting an rx15 G5
I would give it more time. I think you will be pleasantly happy with these. The colors that has emerged from these lights are stunning. Also if you look at the LED cluster there is many different blues and purples. It’s not just one or two blues and one or two whites. I was skeptical about just having blue and white but I think the colors in this light are great.
This or kessil a360 ?
Go Kessil A360x smaller looks better, then a breeze block (red sea make
@@simonthompson22-ex33 A360X cost more and you need a separate controller
The spectrum of this light seems to be what the LED industry offered 6 to 8 years ago, when it was more fails then success...
Not going to lie, not a big fan of this light. I feel it's super simple sure, but that price point really should be a bit lower all things considered.
Agreed, 299 would be the sweet spot IMO.
You think so? The kessil a360x has the same power. Plus the red sea comes with controllability in the fixture. The kessil requires a seperate controller for extra money looking at 900 for a 4 foot tank. 700 for two red sea reefleds.
yip went orphek v4
This unit is inadequate for SPS, judging by the PAR numbers, until 4 units are used. At 3 units there are areas throughout the tank where PAR is a bit low, or so it seems to me. That this unit is good for LED lighting points to the problem with this technology.
BTW, Randy, a reef does *not* look like these Windex tanks.
Kessil knockoff
How does the reefled 50 perform looking to us one on a nuvo 20 drop off tank ?
That would be plenty of power for that tank IMO. GL with whatever you choose. If you go this route post a video and let us know how you feel about it.
The optics look too blue - which may be great for coral health - but gives the tank a bit of a highlighter feel that doesn't replicate what one sees when diving. Unfortunate because it sounds like the quality and ease of use of this unit is noteworthy. I'm looking at the Orphek unit instead.
got a v4 on the way and 2 bars one blue one Uv =)