Harlan Ellison's Watching 36
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- Harlan on A. E. van Vogt and the absurdity of the SFWA's lifetime achievement award rules.
In 1995, the rules were changed, and in 1996, it was awarded to A. E. van Vogt.
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Well, they must have listened to Harlan Ellison, because every writer whom he brought up got a grandmaster award, save for Robert Sheckley I believe. Right on, Harlan!
RIP Harlan Ellison.
Half-Full Update: According to Wikipedia's link to the SFWA site, "The award was originally limited to six per decade and twelve were presented in the twenty years to 1994. From 1995 it has been conferred annually except in 2002." Eventually, they relented and did the right thing and even Harlan received an GM award in 2006! Sadly, Bob Sheckley died on December 9, 2005 at Age 77 but Kate Wilhelm is still alive at Age 85. The squeaky wheel got most of his grease at least! Way to go Harlan!
Update, Kate Wilhelm passed away in 2018, STILL with no SFWA Grand Master award for her. Here's hoping!
Like the way the books behind him are bracketed in case of a California earthquake. Smart.
Having read 'Space Beagle' only recently,Grosvenor was clearly the template for 'Mr. Spock' from Star Trek and other analytical characters.Give him the award.
Not only that but Philip k dick took huge influence from AE Von vogt. So blade runner, minority report and many others wouldn't exist without Vogt. AE deserves more recognition without him sci fi would not be where it is today. I to my shame only discovered Von Gogt a while ago.
Today's SF writers stand on the shoulders of giants and their fans barely understand where the wealth of this genre has come from. A time when the exercise of imagination and wonder was considered perverse and childish, but which now fuels a multi-billion dollar a year industry that churns out so much crap that the rare treasures of the Masters are lost in a avalanche of dreck. Harlan performs a terrific service in this commentary and in his championing of work that challenges the imagination.
"Any rules that people make can be put aside. They're just words!!" What a quote to remember when one thinks how many times people don't do the right thing because of words.
Words that people write and live and die by. But yes they can be changed. Most of us write and will NEVER live as they.
Harlan you were one fine mench . your writing was always award winning
Before Ellison was a Writer, he was a FAN, and it's what got him into writing in the first place.
Obviously, the most (professionally) honored SF Writer of All Time (at least up until the time of this piece) never stopped being a FAN.
Thank-you, Harlan Ellison.
Slan made me an Insomniac. Rendezvous with Rama put me to sleep.
And SFWA still drags its feet. As does World Fantasy. There are many who deserve tis recognition.
Какой же он был все таки замечательный человек...
I am loving this channel! Go get 'em, Harlan.
SIX per DECADE? I thought a DECADE was TEN YEARS...🤦♂️
RIP Harlan you beautiful sewer mouth saint.
Well said.
Anyone else that read Slan after seeing this video?
im finishing the man with a thousand names,,, AHMAZIN!
@@johnnyguitar7921 I'll look that one up too!
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Bester also went away just like van Vogt, did a travel magazine for 15 or 20 years after Stars My Destination
Af is so marginal yet by thr power of its content of ideas and culture its very universal.
Poul Anderson is the best, most influential writer you probably haven't read.
1:30 Poul Anderson eventually won in 1998.
David T. Smith Did he live to get it?
Yes.
We lost Poul in 2000
All but two authors (Joe Haldeman and Bob Silverberg) referenced in this video, along with Harlan himself, are now gone.
only six awards every decade --- That's the rule ! ... dumb rule.
Bob Sheckley was totally ripped off by Douglas Adams and his 'HItchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'.
I adore Harlan Ellison. He's absolutely right!
damn right.
Did Ellison receive the award before he died? would be kind of ironic if he got it posthumoiusly
He got it. They also made him a grand master in 2006.
although "slan" and "voyage of the space beagle" were excellent stories, do not forget that one of the greatest science fiction persons of all time described a.e.van vogt as a "pygmy using a giant typewriter." who was that person? why, damon knight himself!
I'm with Cordwainer and Dick concerning Vogt
He changed his mind during his life
Haldeman? Oh, no you don´t, man.
how Sci-Fi ruined my life
So what happened with this? Were the awards given out? Did the association to which Ellison refers retaliate against him in some way? Just curious.
Did he get the award Harlan?
He did, in 1996. It's in the description.
Rick CG Well that is good to hear. People do deserve their due.
didn't Harlan write terminator?
Jim Cameron was inspired by-- among other things-- two of Ellison's Outer Limits episodes.
hmmm. I wonder where I got that. I thought it was Ellison's original story.
Cameron admitted to someone that he "ripped off a bunch of Harlan Ellison short stories".
Ellison sued him and Cameron had to add him to the credits, which a decent guy would have done in the first place.
Mychael Darklighter *****
in other news...any one read his TIK-TOK...harlequinn man? ...very spazzy wierd tale, I heard the audiobook. Prob wouldnt listen to it again,,,,
...HOw about DREAM CORRIDOR?...I saw that it's a graphic Novel now...anyone read the Comic or the UNABRIDGED book...? Likes/Dislikes?
Ellison did write Demon With A Glass Hand (with Robert Culp) for The Outer Limits. Pretty decent episode (I think it was a two-parter) if you can catch it on a re-run channel. There are some interesting Burke's Law episodes too.
Me view on totalbisuit did not get a legend of the internet Episode
Here are the winners as of this year:
sfwa.org/grandmaster/
Harlan Ellison -- eternally insufferable.
Well said.