I actually very enjoy the sim battles. I would definitely play a lot more if not for the crazy waiting time, at this point I only play sim when at least 2 friends are queuing together with me.
Ground sim would be SO GOOD if it was actually payed attention to and the developers turned it into an actual tank simulator. I hope one day that it will be fixed.
Sim air is actually one of the more enjoyable gamemodes, its not as complicated as DCS but also a little less immersive, would be nice if they add multicrew for sim.
Sim air is definitely my favourite gamemode, if I put aside the fact that my F-5C doesn't have a radar and most planes at my BR have one, it's pretty enjoyable, especially with a hotas.
The only thing im distasteful about in simulator battles is that in ground sim you can only play certain battle ratings on certain days, otherwise its a fun game-mode.
yep...also they allow captured or landlease vehicles too sometimes which is fucking stupid if you need to ID a bmp as an american before shooting it lol
How to make sim more enticing: 1. Use realistic battles BRs (like i though the whole reason for that was to not have copy paste vehicles fight each other but they allow it?) 2. Remove all copy paste vehicles from the team opposing the country that manufacturers them 3. Put aircraft behind an SP AND kill limit (do this for RB too) 4. Remove hit cam entirely 5. Remove the death shot camera 6. Remove the few seconds after you die where you spectate the enemy I understand the last 2 were ADDED to sim because people would cheat and be hard to detect but that's why we have the replay system, if you felt like someone was cheating then just watch the replay after the match. Right now sim is just a war crime try not to TK while you aim from your gunner sight realistic battles, not different enough to justify it's existence.
For the copy paste ones I disagree a bit. Captured or lend lease tanks should stay in their side, but tanks such as the East German T72 should go to the opposite side instead of on germany.
Sim Air is where you can easily and nicely grind the event points for the star! So since getting into that for the event, I enjoy it much more. Even with the wonky flight controls
I remember when sim battles were part of the normal matchmaker. I was actually able to play it back then. Now the vehicles in rotation on the playlist are usually something I don't have because of how high the BR bracket they've chosen is, or they're from a tech tree I'm not very far down, if at all.
The reason I stopped playing sim battles was because of how often I would get team killed. Even if I made it stupidly obvious that I was an allied tank with allied markings, some mouthbreather is still gonna go "HUUURR DURRR THAT'S AN ENEMY, HE HAS NO PLAYER TAG"
On modern tanks, the gun is not slaved to the gunner optics. This means that, when you use the LRF to aim at something, the gun will correct itself not only vertically, but also horizontally to hit exactly where you aim. This works really well at 500m and above, but you can LRF a random distance like 300 and something just for that horizontal alignment. It makes it much easier to shoot at close range from optics, you would probably have hit that T90M lower front plate (actual skill issue 🤓).
when using modern tanks with laser rangefinder in sim, the gun sight will automatically compensate for both range and paralax, so where you point is where shot will land and u wont have an encounter like with that t90m
I think sim battles would be more fun if you didnt get confirmations when you killed someone or didnt know what parts you damaged when you hit them. It should be as realistic as they can make it while still being playable on mouse and keyboard
SB was better when you had the choice of one type of ground vehicle and only two guaranteed spawns in it, while simultaneously only having one guaranteed spawn in an aircraft. . . This system gave reason and being to not dying in an aircraft, even if you spawned with a full loadout of weapons, since when you died. You died. And thus were stuck in a tank, and vice versa with ground to air. . . The entirety of ground modes also prevailed with the prevalence of cover and such locations that could be fought over rather than destructible concealment, but whatever lol. . .
Its been a while since I've played sim battles but I used to enjoy it a lot. I've always felt that RB should be how sim plays; camera view above the tank, off-set optics, etc (excluding friendly-fire, tho i think RB used to have it waaaay back). But thats just me.
I think if they re-upped sim battle rewards or at least let them influence the battle pass more, AND make them a little more open with multiple BR ranges playable instead of just a set every 24 hours. Then Sim would get its community back. I have nearing 600 hours in the game and i pretty much have been playing on and off since the beta, and i barely this year got into 1 singular sim battle. The appeal never got me but its intense fun and I would love to try again but i always see high BR matches only
I really only want to play top tier in sim, because of the rotation, it stays on the shelf for me, except air sim, top tier air sim is always available.
Because Sim battles the planes are tough to pilot, I only do bombing runs on simulator matches, any fighter maneuvers, my plane spins out for the minimal input. And for tanks it's hard to tell who's on your team or not, plus the fact you get killed at spawn by your own team a lot. Also the not being able to use the third person camera makes me sick
Gaijin messed up sim mode when they changed xp and silver lion boost for sim battles. I used to play sim battles a lot and it was really nice experience as I was progressing faster than or realistic battles.
I disagree. I have been enjoying sim for a while, and I think the Iranian F-14 event ruined air sim. I am so glad they nerfed the rewards, because the zomber invasion litteraly broke the game mode.
@@DirectorX59 "zomber invasion"....my guy that shit was a free meal on the way to a fun dogfight. The rewards currently make sim RNG if you get any RP or SL. the 15 minute timer shit is BS and an awful change. It also did nothing about the "zomber invasion". Those people still play fine and well. It just made the mode more unfun for everyone else.
U should play lower tier sim so you can have the experience of realising the panther you just killed was soviet and the m18 it was fighting was italian
the problem of sim mode, the vehicle list is totally unbalanced. and they refused to apply the BR rating into the sim mode and too lazy to adjust the vehicle list.
that teamate who tk u straight away are the problem, the type59 looks exactly like the t54 and t55 yet he still tks you, whilst ur on the cap, 2 indicators that you are a friendly but well he still does
BTW most nato tanks have its optic offset and u have toi compensate cuz where the retiucle is when scoped i isnt going to shoot where u aim in close distances
not forgotten, but its just same as realistic. Legacy is better, auto-Adjust rengefinder only able in Simulator, and Realistic you just find the range.
4:14 skill issue, even if you shot, you probably hit destroyed tank with parallax 3:35 leopard PL got 3rd gen termals, not 2, and in sim you got parallax from gunner anyways, so you can use commander sight for leopards 2a5/2a6/pso which got 2nd gen thermals unlike gunner
Sim would be good if it actually had balance in battle ratings, not just random 11.0 in an 8.0 lobby, also if they stop giving everyone copy pasta war crime vehicles... also these city maps are terrible, needs to be huge maps for sim and actual balance to air, top tier is just cancer whatever you play... drones need to be deleted such as arty too.
The problem with sim battle is the control of aircraft. If they make it control like realistic battle but remove any player name would be much better, because not everyone have gear to play sim air
its not exactly difficutl to control the plane, you just cant see shit because of the cockpit view. my fav plane mode is in realistic ground where there are no markers but you can still look around more easily.
I actually very enjoy the sim battles. I would definitely play a lot more if not for the crazy waiting time, at this point I only play sim when at least 2 friends are queuing together with me.
Totally agree, sim is more fun when you’re with friends and people are actually playing
Where you located? I usually find games pretty quickly, but I'm CET zone.
But tbh, I don't mind waiting for a good experience.
It's nice but when your teammates don't know the tank models and you do 💥
@@jgripen969 I’m in NA EST, and I usually play late at night around 11pm.
Ground sim would be SO GOOD if it was actually payed attention to and the developers turned it into an actual tank simulator. I hope one day that it will be fixed.
So true
Imagine if tank sim was like Gunner Heat PC. With yoke controls and huuuge tactical maps. No one would play it tho.
@@makarevychit would be sooooooo fun tho
Sim air is actually one of the more enjoyable gamemodes, its not as complicated as DCS but also a little less immersive, would be nice if they add multicrew for sim.
Imagine multi crew bombing
Sim air is definitely my favourite gamemode, if I put aside the fact that my F-5C doesn't have a radar and most planes at my BR have one, it's pretty enjoyable, especially with a hotas.
The only thing im distasteful about in simulator battles is that in ground sim you can only play certain battle ratings on certain days, otherwise its a fun game-mode.
yep...also they allow captured or landlease vehicles too sometimes which is fucking stupid if you need to ID a bmp as an american before shooting it lol
How to make sim more enticing:
1. Use realistic battles BRs (like i though the whole reason for that was to not have copy paste vehicles fight each other but they allow it?)
2. Remove all copy paste vehicles from the team opposing the country that manufacturers them
3. Put aircraft behind an SP AND kill limit (do this for RB too)
4. Remove hit cam entirely
5. Remove the death shot camera
6. Remove the few seconds after you die where you spectate the enemy
I understand the last 2 were ADDED to sim because people would cheat and be hard to detect but that's why we have the replay system, if you felt like someone was cheating then just watch the replay after the match.
Right now sim is just a war crime try not to TK while you aim from your gunner sight realistic battles, not different enough to justify it's existence.
For the copy paste ones I disagree a bit. Captured or lend lease tanks should stay in their side, but tanks such as the East German T72 should go to the opposite side instead of on germany.
Sim battles in the object 279 have been and continue to be the single greatest joy I've felt playing war thunder.
Ground sim at reserve tiers is hilarious, well worth playing and you can get quick matches
Sim Air is where you can easily and nicely grind the event points for the star!
So since getting into that for the event, I enjoy it much more.
Even with the wonky flight controls
music fits really well
also just the right volume, for it not to cover up any game sounds
Thanks
playing sim with friend, is the only time i actually have fun playing war thunder
I remember when sim battles were part of the normal matchmaker. I was actually able to play it back then. Now the vehicles in rotation on the playlist are usually something I don't have because of how high the BR bracket they've chosen is, or they're from a tech tree I'm not very far down, if at all.
Unironically, ground sim is the best and most immersive air combat you’ll get at any tier
I mean sim battles arent a forgotten mode. Its just that most people jump after ussr and almost none want to take germany or other
True
The reason I stopped playing sim battles was because of how often I would get team killed. Even if I made it stupidly obvious that I was an allied tank with allied markings, some mouthbreather is still gonna go "HUUURR DURRR THAT'S AN ENEMY, HE HAS NO PLAYER TAG"
So real
On modern tanks, the gun is not slaved to the gunner optics. This means that, when you use the LRF to aim at something, the gun will correct itself not only vertically, but also horizontally to hit exactly where you aim. This works really well at 500m and above, but you can LRF a random distance like 300 and something just for that horizontal alignment. It makes it much easier to shoot at close range from optics, you would probably have hit that T90M lower front plate (actual skill issue 🤓).
when using modern tanks with laser rangefinder in sim, the gun sight will automatically compensate for both range and paralax, so where you point is where shot will land and u wont have an encounter like with that t90m
Yeah it was first time playing sim in awhile, I’m make sure to next time, thanks 🙏
Used to play ground sim a lot, then the KA52 became a thing.
well after a point arcade becomes painful
great quality video, keep it up
Thanks I appreciate it
@@personwithears nice
Damn, this video is blowing up, congrats
Yeah it is, and I’m super happy, thank you!
WW2 sim with tanks like the stug 3 is insanely fun
I’ll probably do a video about that in the future
I think sim battles would be more fun if you didnt get confirmations when you killed someone or didnt know what parts you damaged when you hit them. It should be as realistic as they can make it while still being playable on mouse and keyboard
SB was better when you had the choice of one type of ground vehicle and only two guaranteed spawns in it, while simultaneously only having one guaranteed spawn in an aircraft. . . This system gave reason and being to not dying in an aircraft, even if you spawned with a full loadout of weapons, since when you died. You died. And thus were stuck in a tank, and vice versa with ground to air. . . The entirety of ground modes also prevailed with the prevalence of cover and such locations that could be fought over rather than destructible concealment, but whatever lol. . .
Its christmas no need to put us in a deppressive mood
Its been a while since I've played sim battles but I used to enjoy it a lot. I've always felt that RB should be how sim plays; camera view above the tank, off-set optics, etc (excluding friendly-fire, tho i think RB used to have it waaaay back). But thats just me.
They need to make friendly fire penalties more severe to discourage players from shooting everything that moves. it's not that hard gaijin.
I like sim battles and custom sights make it 100 times better cuz of all the city maps with
Just take the time to LRF every time you shoot if you dont yet know where the round will come into view in the gunner's sight.
I stopped playing sim when they switched from the two spawns with single vehicle system to the current one
I think if they re-upped sim battle rewards or at least let them influence the battle pass more, AND make them a little more open with multiple BR ranges playable instead of just a set every 24 hours. Then Sim would get its community back.
I have nearing 600 hours in the game and i pretty much have been playing on and off since the beta, and i barely this year got into 1 singular sim battle. The appeal never got me but its intense fun and I would love to try again but i always see high BR matches only
Sim would be way better if more people played, i just struggle with finding games.
I really only want to play top tier in sim, because of the rotation, it stays on the shelf for me, except air sim, top tier air sim is always available.
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
I didn't forget it. I just hate it because it's even slower than realistic.
Because Sim battles the planes are tough to pilot, I only do bombing runs on simulator matches, any fighter maneuvers, my plane spins out for the minimal input. And for tanks it's hard to tell who's on your team or not, plus the fact you get killed at spawn by your own team a lot. Also the not being able to use the third person camera makes me sick
mac demarco and war thunder 😍😍😍
Gaijin messed up sim mode when they changed xp and silver lion boost for sim battles. I used to play sim battles a lot and it was really nice experience as I was progressing faster than or realistic battles.
I disagree. I have been enjoying sim for a while, and I think the Iranian F-14 event ruined air sim. I am so glad they nerfed the rewards, because the zomber invasion litteraly broke the game mode.
@@DirectorX59 "zomber invasion"....my guy that shit was a free meal on the way to a fun dogfight. The rewards currently make sim RNG if you get any RP or SL. the 15 minute timer shit is BS and an awful change. It also did nothing about the "zomber invasion". Those people still play fine and well. It just made the mode more unfun for everyone else.
@@kattkatt6961 amen!
Top tier ground sim is broken because of CAS, air is good though. The true forgotten modes are either campaign or world war
Sim Battles never felt warthundery for me
U should play lower tier sim so you can have the experience of realising the panther you just killed was soviet and the m18 it was fighting was italian
In the future I will 🙏
the problem of sim mode, the vehicle list is totally unbalanced. and they refused to apply the BR rating into the sim mode and too lazy to adjust the vehicle list.
that teamate who tk u straight away are the problem, the type59 looks exactly like the t54 and t55 yet he still tks you, whilst ur on the cap, 2 indicators that you are a friendly but well he still does
I honestly never got into the Simulator mode but isn't "unrealistic" that you can't tell your teammate from the enemy in modern vehicles?
if you range them you will get ID after ~1s, maybe to simulate IFF
Ever heard about attack, ground arcade?:D
Yea thats another thing with same tanks in all the nations u have to guess at a distant well is that my teams m60 😂
Ideal War Thunder player based on your username
Do you use a sound mod? And if yes, what is it?
IWSM
is this some sound mod or sim battles just sounds different?
IWSM sound mod
What sound mods you use
IWSM
Do you run Nvidia or AMD? They both have some kinda anti-lag thing you could try
Nvidia, I’ll check it out!
That's the best mode of the game in my opinion
It’s super fun sometimes
that shot audio mod goes hard what is it?
IWSM
What sound mode do you use?
IWSM
@personwithears link
BTW most nato tanks have its optic offset and u have toi compensate cuz where the retiucle is when scoped i isnt going to shoot where u aim in close distances
Yeah I learned that the hard way
whats this sound mod?
IWSM
Can you get the reloading sounds shown in ground RB? I play on Xbox so I wasn’t sure if they were custom or the game
IWSM, it’s a sound mod for pc
Wait what...they nerfed the rewards? Lions or RP?
It was awhile ago
I only play Air Sim and RB Tank
Ive been wanting to try them for a while but seems intimidating..
Ground sim is pretty easy compared to air
what sound mod are u using ??
IWSM
Doing good
Why does your gun sound like that? mod?
IWSM is the sound mod
Subscriber 300 🗣‼‼
Thank you so much 🙏
not forgotten, but its just same as realistic.
Legacy is better, auto-Adjust rengefinder only able in Simulator, and Realistic you just find the range.
4:14 skill issue, even if you shot, you probably hit destroyed tank with parallax
3:35 leopard PL got 3rd gen termals, not 2, and in sim you got parallax from gunner anyways, so you can use commander sight for leopards 2a5/2a6/pso which got 2nd gen thermals unlike gunner
Yeah I messed up, thanks though for bringing this up, I always hope to improve for the future
do you have a sound mod bro
nvm found it
IWSM
I just wish i don´t meat a puma frop 1944in a B1 bis from 1939
I like sim but for me its always low tier like 5.7
at 3:15 your shot wasnt counted because you died before the projectile you fired hit your target. this game does bullcrap like that ALL the time.
can u give me the link of crew sound mod
I’m not using a crew sound mod, but the sound mod is IWSM
@personwithears but radio chatter
So what or you doing of the day
Sim would be good if it actually had balance in battle ratings, not just random 11.0 in an 8.0 lobby, also if they stop giving everyone copy pasta war crime vehicles...
also these city maps are terrible, needs to be huge maps for sim and actual balance to air, top tier is just cancer whatever you play... drones need to be deleted such as arty too.
Nah 90% of players just camp so why would anyone play that mode. Plus the 5 year wait limit😂
play this toptier and everyone is in plane or heliopter
Yeah CAS kinda ruins it sometimes
4:13 It's Neither. Russian bias isn't real. but it's just gaijin being gaijin aka shit, and in this case servers
True
and here I thought you meant Naval.. disappointing
Eck specially
Additional info: you barely see any RNG & cheater in Sim unlike groundRB
This is clickbait. Also a more forgotten game modes is Assault Arcade
Had to think of some kind of title, but yeah assault arcade is in such a poor state 😔
The problem with sim battle is the control of aircraft. If they make it control like realistic battle but remove any player name would be much better, because not everyone have gear to play sim air
And ofcouse only cockpit view
its not exactly difficutl to control the plane, you just cant see shit because of the cockpit view. my fav plane mode is in realistic ground where there are no markers but you can still look around more easily.
Arcade on top
😭