I wonder if you turned off the corrections on the SE if you would have had different results. I like the non-D because it oozes character, but it would be my choice for a vintage raw look. The SE is clinical and the AI-S does seem to be the right mix of character and quality. Nice and interesting video as always👍
Everything was turned off except auto distortion on the SE. Its probably the coating doing the magic since its a Z lens and the sizing of the elements which is significantly smaller. No lens hood was used.
Same here. I like the AI-s version. I use that a ton over the past years. I will look into the 28mm F2.8 voigtlander and do a side by side review. So curious about that lens.
The D (non-D) version is known for being somewhat of a dog, don't really like 28mm that much, but here it is tough to see as it really shows it should be used with a hood or against the sun. Shame because theoretically it should be the one with the most natural looking image with 5 elements. Loving these test as always, a 50mm 1.8 would be killer.
The AI-S for both sharpness and color, the SE for sharpness, the AF sucks. If the AF and SE had a baby it would be the AI-S which the better of the bunch if you don't mind manual focusing
I agree with Yamen's comment the SE is far too clinical, quite like some of the non D faults adds a bit of character which modern lenses have lost. Pentax /Takumar next Li😉👍👍
@@theCameraVille I remember you saying it a few times, modern lenses have their place, but I do like the old vintage ones which give a look hard to replicate.
Thé non D version is bad (less than the AI version which was not quite good), the SE is ok but WTF did they put a plastic ring on it ( boring is ok for me if it s boring in its regular quality ) so the best is probably my the AI - S that you can get between 150 - 200$
You've shown a typical example of 28SE under strong sunlight, cold and high-contrast, not vivid. Mirrorless compact wide angles are prone to little front glass, and use complex aspherical surfaces, which for Nikon probably the hybrid resin on glass (replica on Canon side) or similar to Canon's PMo plastic moulded, to correct all sorts of aberrations. Then the actual result is still not that good (cornor coma, 28SE weak mfd performance, etc.) Considering AI-S CRC version even doesn't contain the glued lens group, it will last longer than 28SE if preserved well, already famous one in history.
The non D is one of Nikkon's weakest lenses but perhaps unfair to test it on its weakest point which is flair. Keepthe sun out and use a middling aperture and it is adequate. Many zooms are worse.
Lee, LoL @ 'dunno if people care about my favorite...' Fellow Nikonians and photogs, use a lens hood, works wonders on flare; protects your glass just in case you drop. AI-S for sure!!! I dislike using anything below 35, only have one 28 which is the PC; the others are inclusive with my short tele's.
D stands for depth and it relays the focus distance to the matrix metering. I don't believe the is a difference in the optical elements between the Non-D and D version.
@@theCameraVille 10 seconds, tops. Each time. If you seeinteresting things with 28mm - use it. Ihave 24 , 35 and 40mm wides. I usedto have the 16mm ais fisheye but I hardly ever used it.
@@413TomaccoRoad So 28mm is your favorite. Its no accident that Nikon made the 28mm as their first SE for Z mount. Leica Q series also a 28MM. Its not doubt that you are outside looking in, resisting the best focal length :D And seeing your prime collection, a 28 mm will fit perfect. No one leaves a message like " 28 mm is useless", because its like someone still talking about their EX from years ago. Deep rooted feelings. Cheers :D
My choice is 28 AIS.
I love that one~~!
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I wonder if you turned off the corrections on the SE if you would have had different results. I like the non-D because it oozes character, but it would be my choice for a vintage raw look. The SE is clinical and the AI-S does seem to be the right mix of character and quality. Nice and interesting video as always👍
Everything was turned off except auto distortion on the SE. Its probably the coating doing the magic since its a Z lens and the sizing of the elements which is significantly smaller. No lens hood was used.
Agreed. Great content. 👌
@@theCameraVille quite interesting and good to know. Thanks!
These are all good lenses, but I still love my Nikkor-auto 28/3.5 for its vintage Nikonish output .
Ill take a look!
The most wonderful thing shown in this test is your beautiful F2Sb! What a camera! 😊
I wasn't surprised that the SE and the AI-s are good. But I am surprised that the AI-s holds up so well vs. a modern lens 40 years later!
Same here. I like the AI-s version. I use that a ton over the past years. I will look into the 28mm F2.8 voigtlander and do a side by side review. So curious about that lens.
The D (non-D) version is known for being somewhat of a dog, don't really like 28mm that much, but here it is tough to see as it really shows it should be used with a hood or against the sun.
Shame because theoretically it should be the one with the most natural looking image with 5 elements. Loving these test as always, a 50mm 1.8 would be killer.
The d version is slightly sharper than the non-d and was redesigned, but still lags behind the Ais version
28 AIS for me adapted to my Sony. Oh yeah! I love this lens.
🫡🫡🫡🫡 Still got mine🫡🫡🫡
The AI-S for both sharpness and color, the SE for sharpness, the AF sucks. If the AF and SE had a baby it would be the AI-S which the better of the bunch if you don't mind manual focusing
Yup sergio~!
I agree with Yamen's comment the SE is far too clinical, quite like some of the non D faults adds a bit of character which modern lenses have lost.
Pentax /Takumar next Li😉👍👍
I also said that too Ian 😂😂. This is what folks mean when they say too digital. Lose a lot of the flavor 😂🙅♂️
@@theCameraVille I remember you saying it a few times, modern lenses have their place, but I do like the old vintage ones which give a look hard to replicate.
@@ianmilne655 Yup! I still use a lot of vintage lens. Need to get that Takumar 🫡🫡
@@theCameraVille ah yes, the 24mm👍 brilliant lens Li.
@@theCameraVille Vintage is where it's at! Most of the new glass sucks.
Happy to share your review! :)
Thank you🫡🫡 feel free to do so🤝🤝
@@theCameraVille 👍
Welcome back! Love that Lenz!
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Thé non D version is bad (less than the AI version which was not quite good), the SE is ok but WTF did they put a plastic ring on it ( boring is ok for me if it s boring in its regular quality ) so the best is probably my the AI - S that you can get between 150 - 200$
You've shown a typical example of 28SE under strong sunlight, cold and high-contrast, not vivid. Mirrorless compact wide angles are prone to little front glass, and use complex aspherical surfaces, which for Nikon probably the hybrid resin on glass (replica on Canon side) or similar to Canon's PMo plastic moulded, to correct all sorts of aberrations. Then the actual result is still not that good (cornor coma, 28SE weak mfd performance, etc.) Considering AI-S CRC version even doesn't contain the glued lens group, it will last longer than 28SE if preserved well, already famous one in history.
I love you. Thank you. That was very informative:D
4:40 Z SE with zero vignetting at f/22 🥳
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Hey, I enjoy watching your videos! Are you in audea btw?
Thanks for the view~! Not at all.
It would have been nice if you had some shots with the sun at you back.
I will look too amazing. That would be distracting Gordon .❤️
Do you not mind the plastic man distortion that lens you're using gives you?
Plastic distortion? Let me know what you are referring to?
Nikkor 28mm ais!👍
YES~!!!
The non D is one of Nikkon's weakest lenses but perhaps unfair to test it on its weakest point which is flair. Keepthe sun out and use a middling aperture and it is adequate. Many zooms are worse.
🫂🫂 I understand ❤️🫂
28 mm ai-s👍
Ai-S got some character. I still use it~!
Lee, LoL @ 'dunno if people care about my favorite...'
Fellow Nikonians and photogs, use a lens hood, works wonders on flare; protects your glass just in case you drop.
AI-S for sure!!!
I dislike using anything below 35, only have one 28 which is the PC; the others are inclusive with my short tele's.
Bahahha " dunno if people care about my favorite " LOL!. That was uncut! :D
Woo, let me give the 35mm a shot my man. Stay tune~!
@@theCameraVille How do you correctly spell your name?
@Michael M. Piano its Li boss~~!
@@theCameraVille When are you planning to do a comparo with different Nikon DSLR bodies?
@@MMPAspergerian That has trigger my head. Started to look at the older gen nikon dslr
I have the AF (non-d) version. I got it a couple months ago, but haven't been able to really use it yet.
I hope you enjoy your shooting experince!
Hi, do you know what is the difference between the "D" version and the "non D" version?
Thanks.
I believe the D and non D has something to do with the chip for metering .
D stands for depth and it relays the focus distance to the matrix metering. I don't believe the is a difference in the optical elements between the Non-D and D version.
I was wondering if he was gonna mention what non D meant, I guess he didn’t know either lol
Ais is the best
I love the Ais. ❤️❤️❤️❤️👍
Most useless focal length. 😅
Says the guy who clicked on a video that is only about 28MM lol
@@theCameraVille Yes. I did. Just to say it. 😁
@@413TomaccoRoad Sounds like a wate of your time.
@@theCameraVille 10 seconds, tops. Each time. If you seeinteresting things with 28mm - use it. Ihave 24 , 35 and 40mm wides. I usedto have the 16mm ais fisheye but I hardly ever used it.
@@413TomaccoRoad So 28mm is your favorite.
Its no accident that Nikon made the 28mm as their first SE for Z mount. Leica Q series also a 28MM. Its not doubt that you are outside looking in, resisting the best focal length :D And seeing your prime collection, a 28 mm will fit perfect.
No one leaves a message like " 28 mm is useless", because its like someone still talking about their EX from years ago. Deep rooted feelings.
Cheers :D
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