Joola Ben Johns Hyperion C2 14 & 16 Pickleball Paddle Review
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The JOOLA Ben Johns Hyperion C2 16 blends together the best qualities of the Perseus to update the performance of the entire family of Hyperion paddles! Retained are the Aero Curve Head Carbon Friction Surface (CFS) and Hyperfoam Edge Wall Technologies which provide industry leading spin potential, comfort and realistic power. Borrowed from the Perseus, is the Charged Carbon Surface which combined with the CFS improves paddle face durability, and delivers even easier access to spin. In addition, the 16mm. Reactive Honeycomb Polymer Core of the Hyperion C2 is encased by the same ultra-durable Fully Encased Carbon Frame design as the Perseus. This noticeably improves overall paddle stability, and leans power in the direction of precision, which green-lights full swings from the baseline without compromising on the quality of long, patience testing rallies near the NVZ. As with the Perseus and original Hyperion's, a grip diameter of 4.125 in. is also standard with the Hyperion C2 16. And to further its all-court versatility, JOOLA pairs the Hyperion C2 16 with a 5.5 in. handle which encourages players to power or finesse their way to the NVZ and on to the podium, using one or two hands on the paddle.
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the production quality is insane
"best of both worlds" based
INCREASED POWER AND CONTROL!!!!
I currently play with a 16mm Hyperion (original) and love it; however, it’s starting to show wear on the surface. So pondering one of the new C2s. My question: Since most pros add perimeter tape to improve performance/feel, wouldn’t it be better to start with the 14mm, and adding lead tape would bring the weight up to match the 16mm? Thanks for your thoughts…
Good question, and thanks for taking the time to aim it in our direction. The short answer is, yes, but with some caveats! Up until recently, I have been describing paddles as featuring weight based power, length based power, along with core based power. These days I am now factoring in whether the construction is "old school" cold pressed, or thermoformed. Explained another way: We feel that two paddles which are identical with the exception of one being cold pressed, and the other thermoformed, the latter will get the power award. You are coming from the original cold pressed Hyperion 16mm. and are considering the thermoformed C2 14mm. as a platform for modification. Thicker 16mm. polymer cores absorb a little more energy of the ball, compared to a 14mm., so keep in mind that the thinner 14mm. core, and thermoforming the C2 Hyperion makes it livelier to begin with. I hope the details help, and of course if you have any further questions, and/or feedback, feel free to send another message, and we will certainly reply.
Cheers,
Mark-TP
@@pickleballwarehouse - Thanks for the reply, Mark! Sounds like the 16mm C2 would offer better control due to superior absorption? While at the same time increase power over what I’m used to in my original cold pressed Hyperion. Am I understanding correctly? If so, then perhaps the 16mm C2 would be the way to go for me, especially since I’m already used to that weight, which includes a little additional perimeter weighting.
Hi Danny, and thanks for the additional feedback. If you are a pretty good source of power yourself, I would agree, or suggest that you go with the 16mm. example of the Hyperion C2. Adding weight will not mess with the level of core power, but will increase plow through stability (like a heavier bowling ball). So between the inherent increase in power afforded from thermo-forming the C2, you being used to the conservative return of energy from a 16mm. polymer core, and the fact that you intend on modifying the C2, my money would be on the thicker 16mm. C2 Hyperion.
Cheers,
Mark/TP
@@pickleballwarehouse - Perfect! Thanks again, Mark!
Is Ben going to be playing with this one now instead of the Perseus?
I believe only Simone is playing w the C2
Not a chance.
Quick question here. The backhand roll you demonstrate in the video. Is the motion coming primarily from the shoulder, elbow or forearm/wrist?
All of the above! Brittany is initially a tennis player and has adopted a similar style with her pickleball backhand. So she loads the body by turning her shoulder and drops her wrist to generate spin and plow through the shot!
Michelle, TW
Could you share some thoughts of comparing the Hyperion C2 16mm to the Colin Johns Scorpeus 16mm?
Ahh, differences between two premium paddles that share the same technologies, but utilize different shapes. If we are comparing the specific example of the Hyperion C2 with the same run of Scorpeus paddles, here is what we can say: Both paddles feature the combination of JOOLA's Reactive honeycomb core (14 or 16mm), Carbon Friction surface, and uni-body construction. So unless we are comparing the new 3S series of paddles, their differences are entirely shape related. The Aero-Curved tip of the Hyperion C2 broadens the sweet spot out towards the tip of the paddle, with the narrower paddle face making it more prone to move side-to-side. This lateral instability in rectangular paddles is actually a benefit for those who like to roll their shots (speed-up volleys, etc.). The Scorpeus uses more of a square shaped face, which perhaps produces a larger sweet spot overall; or maybe the wider shape has tricked my brain in to believing so. I can still roll my volleys with the wider face of the Scorpeus, but where I really feel effective with that shape is on serve, and return of serve.
Mark/Pickleball Warehouse
@@pickleballwarehouse thanks Mark for your response. So you have a better serve with the Scorpeus vs the Hyperion? I really thought it would have been the opposite…
I’m definitely asking about the C2 (Gen 2) variations. The Gen 3 and upcoming “3S” are a little too expensive without enough real life reviews out there for me to invest on those, at least for now 😃
Trying to decide between paddles and looking to get the Hyperion C2. Currently have the DBD, but looking to get a new one. Is the Hyperion C2 worth it?!
You mentioned that you are considering making a switch from the Six Zero DBD to the JOOLA Hyperion C2, and wonder if it is worth it. Good question, and I suppose it boils down to what you mean by "is it worth it?" Cost wise, they are now pretty close, so that would not be a deciding factor for me. I like elongated designs, and play well with both paddles, so if price is not a consideration it would come down to whether I felt more comfortable (overall) with one or the other. We have examples of both paddles here, they are very popular, and definitely have quite a bit of play on them. Our consensus, is that the slight taper of the Six Zero DBD's face makes its sweet spot a little bigger, and more forgiving out towards the tip end. Both are still easy to develop spin with, but the grit level of the DBD maybe stays put a bit longer, compared to the Hyperion C2. Lastly, the Six Zero's handle and over-grip feel more premium in my hand.
Mark/TP
What’s the difference between the Ben Johns model and Simone Jardim C2?
Both the 14 and 16mm versions of both C2 Hyperions feature the same build and materials. Aside from the cosmetic on the hitting surface, grip diameter may be the biggest (sort of unlisted) difference. All of the C2 Hyperions are officially listed as having a 4.125 (4 and 1/8) inch grip diameter, but after measuring quite a few of them, it seems the 16mm version of the Ben Johns Hyperion C2 has a grip size closer to 4.25 (4 and 1/4). JOOLA does indicate on their site that you can expect some variation in handle diameter.
Cheers,
Mark/Pickleball Warehouse
@@pickleballwarehouse Thank you for the response! One more quick question I had was about the Hyperion C2 and the Perseus. Do they share the same surface texture or do they different surface technology?
Loved this paddle at the kitchen but the weight was too much of a factor for me. Too light compared to the original Hyperion and I missed the plush feel
You don't know about lead tape? Practically every serious player uses it
I’m trying to find a paddle similar to the OG Hyperion but I honestly can’t find one yet
Can you tell me the average swing weight is on the 14mm’s please?
There is always a little over/under in terms of a paddle's average weight. That said, the 14mm Hyperion C2 tips the scales at around 7.8 ounces. As light as 7.6, or as heavy as 8 ounces is not out of the question either. The average of the 16mm version is 8 ounces, and my guess is that the disparity in weight relates to the slightly smaller handle of the 14mm Hyperion C2.
Mark/Pickleball Warehouse (formally Total Pickleball)
The aero shape adds nothing and probably takes away some small measure of inches in the total paddle surface. Even Ben is not using it anymore.
Guarantee you haven’t tried a hybrid shape paddle