How Kids Cope On Horror Movie Sets & Hollywood's Nostalgia Problem
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ส.ค. 2024
- How are child actors protected while acting in horror films? What's the reason for Hollywood's obsession with de-aging actors, and is it tied into their obsession with nostalgia - as demonstrated in the new Gladiator II trailer? Which of Steven Spielberg's legendary catalogue of work makes Marina and Richard's Top 3s? And, how do you film ‘film’?
Richard and Marina answer your questions in the latest Questions and Answers episode of The Rest Is Entertainment.
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00:00 Intro
01:55 Top 3 Steven Spielberg Movies
11:10 How are horror movies with children in them filmed to protect them from scary scenes?
18:20 Why do TV shows have different names in different countries?
24:57 Why do movies keeping de-aging older Hollywood stars?
30:25 AI firm buying rights to dead actor’s voices for audio books
32:30 Top 3 Shows everyone seems to have forgotten
37:12 How do you film a film within a film
40:22 Outro - บันเทิง
I saw a sign saying Strictly No parking and i thought they make a tv show about anything now days
😂
A long wait for a 'By and Large' but we got there in the end.
Richard 3 Marina 1
By and large Richard will say by and large, largely more than Marina. By and larger there were more by and larges in this video than usual. By and large of course.
I had no idea Marina was bi.
Jaws has one of my absolutely favourite scenes in cinema history. Chief Brody is sitting at the table, feeling the pressure, so he's sighing and rubbing his face when he notices that his little boy is mimicking him. Every time I see it I marvel that it didn't end up on the cutting room floor. I certainly can't imagine any film getting away with it these days, let alone a thriller, but it is such a lovely, tender little scene that tells you so much about the character. One of many reasons why Jaws is my no. 1.
10 dollar shirt with a 20 dollar crocodile...
All the best Spielberg movies have John Williams doing the music, just magic when they work together.
A show I remember enjoying was a mini-series called 'Private Schultz' with Michael Elphick as the hapless eponymous lead. Others in the cast included Ian Richardson and Bille Whitelaw. I haven't seen it in over 30 years and worry that it won't have stood the test of time. But I loved it.
@32:15 "See you in the catacombs"!? That's brought the mood down a touch. Dark Marina, dark. Love the show!
Upright! Great call, Richard. Loved that!
Big Brother is called Bigg Boss in India. Who wants to be a millionaire?'s title in India is its Hindi translation.... except the million part...it is called crorepati here....but crore is 10 million....so it is who wants to be a 10millionare. Dancing with the Stars was called Jhalak Dikhla Ja...and they used the original title as a subtitle....so it was Jhalak Dikhla Ja: Dancing with the Stars. Btw Jhalak Dikhla Ja translates to Show a glimpse.
"Show A Glimpse" 😂😂
On the subject of shows changing their names, “Bake-Off” is a registered trademark of the Pillsbury company which is why in America it's been rebranded as the great British/American baking show. The corridor crew channel did an episode on how this meant the glass trophy had to be CGI'd to change the engraved name
In Australia countdown is called Letters and Numbers because Countdown was an existing Australian show akin to Top of the Pops, which ironically made it more similar to ORIGINAL French version Des Chiffres et Lettres
It's TV but the Columbo episode Murder By The Book was directed by Spielberg and an absolute classic. Do a deep dive on Columbo PLEASE. The guests alone are a fantastic talking point.
Memories of pirate videos come flooding back. A record shop owner in our town used to be able to obtain them. I particularly remember having the Star Wars trilogy on Betamax! (Yes, Betamax ffs). My nephew, who was about 3 at the time, used to watch them back-to-back every day, sometimes in the wrong order. He inevitably became a film & TV addict and 40-odd years later won a Sports Emmy for editing.
This is a great podcast!
It is absolutely essential to cast the correct person to narrate an audiobook. In my mind the narrator becomes an integral part in the actual plot of the book. For example, Lesley Manville was a superb narrator of the first two Thursday Murder Club books and essentially became Joyce. I thought I would struggle to accept Fiona Shaw into the role but she has a similarly warm tone and empathy for the characters that she, too, became Joyce.
3. Saving Private Ryan
2. Color Purple
1. Schindler's List
(Raiders would have probably been number 3 if it hadn't given me nightmares as a small child!)
Idea for a TV special... A behind the scenes series of a film crew making a show about a behind the scenes film about the making of a franchise movie ( possibly Inception 3). A winner with lanyard producers everywhere.
But in the style of the Office 😂
I was 12 when family friends took me to see Jurassic Park whilst on holiday in Torquay. Sat open-mouthed for the whole duration and we were buzzing for days afterwards. Too young to have seen any of the others in the cinema or things might be different but that would be my number 1.
Richard’s level of sarcasm is top tier! 😅
My top 3 Spielberg films. 3) Hook (so underrated) 2)Jaws 1)Jurassic Park
i remember the IT miniseries from the 90s traumatized me as a kid along with Child's Play. To this day I still find myself looking briefly at sewers as I walk by. Funny thing is I've seen the remake and its sequel in theaters and had absolutely no problem.
Just an aside JAWS is terrific, the music, increasing tempo just heightened it to perfection, it is a great movie without the score but that score is intrinsic and instantly recognisable.
E.T. was also the first pirate video I saw.
Top 3 Spielberg movies: 3) Raiders, 2) Jaws, 1) Close Encounters
I saw Jaws at the shore, Ocean City, New Jersey.... never went in that summer...
"That's some bad hat Harry" is the line from Jaws that's always stuck with me
But it did work! Dan Smith and Gary Wilson got mentioned many times.
Oh, International King of Sports was magic and I had no idea that Richard was involved. What a show it was!
3. Schindler's List
2. Jurassic Park
1. Jaws
Honourable mentions to 75% of the rest, he's a stunning filmmaker
22:56 - I think Shark Tank, the US title for Dragon's Den, is a great example. Dragons hoard wealth in Tolkien and other tales, whereas a Shark is a US idiom for a particularly clever businessperson. But the Japanese original show title "Tigers of Money" was a pun on the name of a famous general, and, as Richard pointed out, puns dont translate.
"The Lion's Den/Cave" (Løvens Hule) in Denmark.
Love the "Jaws " Dolly Zoom shot
International king of sports was an absolute gem, loved that the guy who was best at jumping into the swimming pool couldn't swim.
In Australia, Countdown is called Letters and Numbers, because we already had a music show called Countdown. Although this is just a translation of the original French
My first pirate video was The Phantom Menace. It was so funny watching people sitting in the theater.
My God, for a second I thought Marina said Jaws 3. Nearly died. Also, as a kid I saw The Blob and had a red bedspread on my bed. It had to go!
Voice swapping is a thing. They didn't just replicate James Earl Jones' voice in Star Wars. They got an actor to perform the scenes, and then digitally transformed the voice to sound like him. So that's how they can get Judy Garland to read the Wizard of Oz. Get a skilled voice artist to perform the book, and then map the cloned voice onto that performance, creating a digital sound alike that has an underlying, high quality performance.
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*Independence Day* was the first pirate video I saw.
It was also a very poor NTSC/PAL transfer. It was a bit surreal experience.
The scariest movie I saw as a kid was "Invasion of the body snatchers", the one from 1978 with Donald Sutherland (RIP)
The thought of "them" getting you when you were sleeping, and thin cobweb threads reaching for you in your bed, made me scared of going to sleep. For a while.
Top 3 Spielberg films is extremely hard, but for me: 3. Jurassic Park - CGI, of which there is remarkably little, still stands up 30 years on, and I still sometimes find myself wishing and dreaming like Hammond (and hating being brought back to reality by Dr Malcolm: "Your Scientists Were So Preoccupied With Whether Or Not They Could, They Didn’t Stop To Think If They Should "); 2. Raiders of the Lost Ark - as Richard said, it's breathless action - when Indy is asked what his plan is, he replies "I don't know - I'm just making this up as I go" - and it feels just like that's what's going on as it's made to me! 1. E.T. - stunning, beautiful, touching, tear-jerking, joyful. And as with all of these films, a stupendous soundtrack. One of its best features: *no sequel* (I know he's made some noises, but really, please, no)
Richard, i understand the Tales of the Unexpected thing. I still have an irrational fear of the closing theme to Jim'll Fix it, Dr Who came next. of course, turns out it may not have been an irrational fear..
Saw Jaws when I was 11. Have loved shark soup ever since.
1 raiders of the lost Ark
2 Jaws
3 jurassic Park
But I’m old and these were all so ground breaking and Impressionable
I must be strange, there is nothing that scared me as a child that scares me now.
Yay, got a question in finally
Listening to the man who died twice today in the car and laughed out loud at Joyce recounting Johanna going to a neighbours to watch ET on a video recorder. Must be loads of your own anecdotes to find in the books
Fleabag creator Phoebe W-B stated that when they filmed season 2, they shot out of sequence with the sex scene first and then the next day was the ‘if I have sex with you I will fall in love with you.’ Scene and P W-B Said that Andrew Scott did 2 incredible takes and then the 3rd floored everyone and made crew cry and at that point she knew they had a series. Some people just have IT whatever that X factor is and A Scott is just made for theatre, tv film etc to embody such empathy and heartache on the second day of filming. He is extraordinary. V proud of him and her of course.
The best entertainment podcast ! Love listening to both your opinions especially when you differ!
Two under rated films (in my opinion) .. lucky number sleven and 7 psychopaths
Underrated tv…
Due South,
and the best program ever (obviously) Banshee !
Opinions ?
Top 3 based on what I would watch right now at lunchtime on a Friday. 3) Men in Black. 2) Jurassic Park. 1) Catch Me If You Can.
I saw Jaws as a 12 years old on holiday in Aberystwyth, and it scared me so much, that I just had to go back and watch it again.
Did you also avoid the sea for that holiday?
@@ticketyboo2456 😄
Porkys and Goodbye Porkpie (both on the same VHS) was my first pirate video. And I’m thinking this was 82 or 83 so I would have been 7 or 8.
regarding De-Aging: the Han Solo Solo Movie gives us a modern example on how well it works to just cast different people.
Like it's a role and in other Media it's normal that the actor portraing that role changes and Bonus Points for that they found an voice actor for the german dub that sounded like the old Harrison Ford in the 70/80s
The one where Richard shops the Witchells. You know what snitches get?
Schnitzels?
I was eight when I watched jaws hiding on the staircase… my parents didn’t know, but I would not enter a pool, a bathtub or even close my eyes in the shower for over a year.
In Australia they had Jaws screening in pools. Imagine that!
Speaking of tales of the unexpected, I vividly recall Armchair Thriller (ITVs version of TOTU) and the episode Quiet As a Nun which aired in 1978 before the watershed and was utterly terrifying TV - what TV impacted on you both growing up?
There is no way I could limit favorite Spielberg movies to only 3 and any kind of ranking.
And yet Dan Smith and Gary Wilson got their names mentioned multiple times more than anyone else in the video
Bill Skarsgård tells the story that after filming a particularly intense scene in “It”, he approached the child actor after the director called “cut”, to check the youngster was ok and not too freaked out, only to be told by the super-confident young man:”I love what you’re doing with the character!”
Question for you both, for the brilliant Diane Morgan’s “Cunk on” series, do the experts who appear on the programme’s understanding that it’s a comedy spoof, or are they going cold into the questions asked by Cunk??
I saw the little girl in Evil Dead Rises and thought "Blimey. That kid's gonna need therapy after this".
3. Jaws.
2. Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
1. Saving Private Ryan.
Honourable mentions; War Horse.
My Spielberg top 3:
1: Jurassic Park
2: Saving Private Ryan
3: Schindler’s List
And now he is directing James Bond as Arthur Scargil, and Lady Prime as Stella Rimmington
Jaws shows Spielberg’s genius. The shark did work, but he still made a masterpiece on the fly.
Regarding not ever knowing who is whom in the Olympics, there is a great documentary about 1980s double gold medal decathlon winner Daley Thompson on BBC 2 at 9pm this Tuesday! Now there's a sporting superstar right there.
Thanks,definitely going to watch that !
The repeats of Tales of the Unexpected are close to being the best thing on tv at the moment. Amazing guests too. Just saw Eli Wallach being not so much ugly but quite bad.
Drag Race UK missed a trick by keeping their challenge as the "Snatch Game" (play on the US Match Game) when Wankety Wank was right there!
I mean it is Questions AND Answers
When i was a kid i my dad watching a horror movie i sneaked downstairs and then saw the scene....now the movie is called The guardian a 90s movie made by the guy who did exorcist and there is a scene in it with a chainsaw and a blood filled tree and that will stick in my mind forever lol
As a kid I crept downstairs to watch Alien on it's first TV airing. Lay there on the settee, lights off and watch the whole thing into the early hours of the morning. When it was over I didn't dare move my feet to the floor and I certainly wasn't creeping back upstairs in the dark. So I stayed downstairs until I was woken in the morning.
'By and Large' match bet:
8 or Over - 5/6
7 or Under - 5/6
I never knew the University Challenge originated in the USA as Cpllege Bowl. It seems so quintessentially British.
Filming scenes with film crews suffer from the actors being crew getting it wrong but in a way regular audience wouldn't notice.. Most obvious is terrible boom mic technique. That said, sometimes it is advantageous to have the real Boom operator in shot doing the real booming of the key characters in the scene because then you can get good tight sound. The giveaway will be a fluffy mic on a pole held at a funny angle is just an actor, if you see a boom up with his arms both up in the air properly and a small transmitter underneath the furry bit then it's real
I'm still not as convinced of AI as people who aren't tech savvy are. Scratch the surface and you see all the hallmarks of a technology that sounds better in theory than application. And scratch a little further and you realise that the current code is already running at its limit (it needs too much data - already there is not enough human data to feed the next iteration - and is incredibly power intensive and CPU hungry) so another big break through is needed to fulfil all the promises being made right now.
When you take the example of Wizard of OZ and Judy Garland your going to have to hire an actress/voice actor to read the book and do all the voices, and give a performance akin to Judy. But at what age Judy? a child as she was when she did the film? or the adult? How well would Judy do the various voices etc., would she do voice at all, would fans expect her to do voices? Add to this that Wizard of Oz is public domain, and that the market for this sort of adaptation is probably fairly small (the people who know Judy and remember her will are now all well into their 60s, 70s and 80s, , and that AI is still fabulously expensive - I think the instance it will be deemed worth it are vanishingly small.
Its also worth remembering that studios aren't making new movie stars because they find them an expensive pain in the ass, so they probably also hate the estates but use them when needed.
Also - please expose your kids to better media - those poor souls being allowed to hear AI versions of anything -eek!
Towards the end (after 10 years or so) "Strike It Lucky" in the UK reverted to the original US title "Strike It Rich" - why was this? Was it decided wanting to be rich was felt to be less vulgar in Britain by then?
1 Saving Private Ryan
2 Sugarland Express Because of childhood memories of watching it with my grandmother.
3 Minority Report
Spielberg/horror thread convergence! Whilst child actors may be shown exactly how horror scenes work, the complete opposite happened to Drew Barrymore on E.T., where she was never permitted to see how he was operated, only ever as a "living" and "real" creature to help her give a believable performance.
Hello. I would love you both to examine why people talk so differently on TV to how people speak in real life. I'm talking about things like Ross Kemp putting arbitrary. full stops. In the middle. of his sentences., etc. I've never heard anyone do this in real life, and find it weird and hilarious. Thank you x
crew shirts?
My problem with the de-aging prcocess, particularly in The Irishman, is that the de-aging is focussed on the face of the character. When the camera takes in a wider shot, the actor still has the arms of an 80 year-old!!
I'll do the question at some point: Why do some shows and films include the word 'The' at the beginning, even though Every instance it is refered to as what comes after.
23:38 Richard says 'Traitors', only to correct himself to "The Traitors" in the next mention
I've never heard Zemeckis pronounced that way; 25:28
Richard, when it comes to AI and Audiobooks, you are dead right. As a narrator, AI narration saddens me. It doesn't how clever the tech gets, there will always be a HUGE missing element - AI can't understand the story. When I narrate a story, I have already read it, made notes, and understand all the ins and outs of the story. That goes into my read. As a human, I understand the story (hopefully like it too!) and I don't just read it aloud, but interpret it with all the ups and downs, speed changes, and subtlety of tone that goes with a performance.
AI is not always threatening my industry, and the careers of some very good narrators, but is undermining what performance should be. Worse, the AI developers are lying to potential clients, promising their AI engine can do things it simply can't. Artificial Intelligence is NOT trying to become human, it is not possible. At best, it is a bad impersonation. Keep it for doing things humans can't and keep it away from the things that humans can not only do, but do better.
How have you guys not included Schindler’s List?!
Oh Christ, the Olympics, I'd forgotten about that. What with Football, Tennis and Politics I've not switched the TV on for a month. Might as well sell it.
As a Dan Smith I feel very attacked Richard..
The story of the little girl in "The Baron Munchausen" is worth a google. Apparently, it scarred her in multiple ways. I love Gilliam movies, and I'm sure he was under a lot of pressure, but he does not come out smelling sweet.
Agreed. For anyone interested, searching "Sarah Polley: ‘It took me years to see how responsible Terry Gilliam was for my terror’" will take you to the very detailed article in The Guardian about the story.
Guys, I love the show but must we have all these top threes and random opinions ? It really feels like what it is - padding.
I miss the days of the earlier episodes where lots of viewer questions were answered and not just 3 or 4 questions needing long form answers.
Ny top 3 forgotten shows. 1. In Bed With Me Dinner. 2. Game On. 3. 15 Storeys High
I wish there were easier ways of protecting kids form the horrors of social video! I'm an editor so have ways of pulling apart the videos my kids are exposed to, to show them it isn't 'real' - but I'm in the vast minority!
Jaws was the worst bit of PR that ever happened to Sharks. Sharks aren’t as big as killer as you’d think.
(Love Jaws to death btw)
Ask TRIP about T Dan Smith and associated scandals.
Your the Mayor of shark city Larry, sign it.
"There are worse things in our sea"😃
I was a child actor and honestly think I wouldn't have been phased is I'd made a horror film, even though like Richard things like Tales Of The Unexpected were too creepy for me to handle. It takes a lot to make a horror film scaring and the things that scare us in context are not at all scary in context. One scene can take days to film, everyone knows what's going to happen beforehand and that everything is for the audiences benefit. It's a testament to actors that they can do this stuff and make it look like it takes place in real time.
When I was old enough to watch horror remembering that it was just a bunch of people making a film was my technique to make it bearable
two sets of top 3?? Nah, I wan't more insight into Q&A behind the scenes than just opinion...
Did I miss Marina's number two favorite?
38:29 surely they are allowed to say headfuck.
Great film though......!
Saving Private Ryan 1 Catch me if you can 2 Empire of the sun 3
They don't need to de-age Denzel. They should just use his son.
Jaws: The Revenge
Jaws 2
Jaws
In that order.
Can’t knock the Spiel for his films but I think that if the shark had worked as it should have then it would have been a different film. Fact is he had to do many scenes sans shark because it wouldn’t play ball and is all the better for that. The thought of it is way better than when we actually see it. Because it was a bit shite. I can’t swim in the sea directly because of the film.