No. Shes right. Hes trying too hard instead of being himself. Real Arthur is like the original Lord Of The Rings trilogy. Its honest and not worried about audience retention or what will be the flashiest thing or how to create the most drama. Then there is the LotR tv show, or another example would be Marvel movies. You always want to Jump the Shark. it has to be bigger and better more dramatic. who cares if the story makes sense? who cares if its grounded in truth, somehow Palpatine returned. Arthur now goes for the cheap laugh ALWAYS. hes always farming, which ends up boring. He can pretend to seduce every woman he talks too and they can do the same but thats boring. its been done, and with him. its easy content too, clickbait. He is farming clips as in 30 secs of content divorced from reality, but in doing so he is sacrificing long form content, where real people talk to each other. Hes a tiktoker now. every 30 second clip and be stitched with a different woman where he says the same thing to each of them and then they respond. Trying to hard for the easier content is boring and lacks all depth.
If he's smart, he keeps her at arms length and moves on, nothing good can come from carrying on. The problem with farming is that for the farm to work there has to be some chemistry, but if there is some chemistry shit gets confusing.
Initially on the side of Fanfan, but she was clearly fence-sitting between wanting the farm to go on, but/and it not affecting her IRL relationship. She sadly can't get both.
Ahh Fan Fan was one of my favorite streamers, because she was funny and didnt have to rely on her looks, even though I wouldnt say shes ugly. Kinda disappointing cos 1. She was the one who initiated this kinda talk, and 2. The person I thought FanFan was would be to strong of a woman to let her bf control her streaming persona like that (although he might genuinely be hurt or uncomfortable with it, and not just trying to control her).
It would be unfair to expect either of these guys to keep up this act forever. Especially now that Fanfan is openly sharing that she has a BF (who may, or may not have a problem with this level of flirting publicly - whether fake or not). I think Arther should be extremely proud of how well he has grown as a streamer/entertainer over the past few months. And how far this "arc" has taken his career. There is so much to come from him and I cannot wait to see it. Thank you Mister Arther and Fanfan for the quality content!
First off, Arthur himself admitted he's different. Secondly, saying someone is a little bit more confident is still in an admission that they're different. And lastly and the most important thing is fan fan never attributed good or bad to him changing. People here someone say someone's changed and they automatically assume that they're saying they've changed for the worst. It's pretty obvious that she was trying to say that when Arthur used to say or do things that people looked at as farming, she felt that that was Arthur just being himself and that that would be something he would say or do if the stream wasn't on. She's saying now she feels that Arthur has changed in the sense that some of the things he says or does are different than what he would usually do when a stream wasn't on. You call it confident that's fine but that is a change that is noticeable.
Arther is VERY different compared to before. No idea how you can even argue otherwise. In the past, he had some banger farming jokes, but just sprinkled in here and there. Now, he does nothing but those jokes and then just laughs akwardly. It's obviously not a big deal and it's cool to see him gain more confidence, but he definitely over farming
Imagine a friend pointing at you publicly "You changed, you are going too far." Isn't that kind of wild? Dude, I rememer the first streams he had with Nick and he has always been like this, only difference is that he is now more confident with it.
As sommeone who isn't invested in the parasocial stuff but who likes watching otk because these people bounce off of each other well with their humor, i have to say both were farming soo hard for clips that it just feels disingenuous for Fanfan to say that it wasn't like that in the beginning.
Then again reading some of the comments and twitch chat i can understand why they are annoyed bei the shipping culture they both/all have cultivated over the last months.
The problem is that really the only thing they are all farming are pretend relationships. In gta you could still say "it's only in game", but now you are broadcasting your "real" relationships so of course soap opera contend will attract soap opera viewers
this made no sense to me cause like, beginning of fanfan arc she was layering it on REALLY HEAVY and arther would hit the woah and blush, and then arther progressively layered it on light then heavy the REALLY HEAVY and now hes disingenuous and forced. ive heard this kind of explanation of behavior before from people and its always so frustrating, like basically getting blamed for ruining the vibe when you slowly matched their energy.
Tbf she licked some other Asian guys spit wad from the palm of her hand. Shit was gross. Im all one for trading cleam spit with my girl but aint nobody finna see us do it! 😂 everyone does nasty things behind closed doors but KEEP IT THERE!
I know a lot of people are hating on Arther after this. But dude, he was always in his limits. He knew he was farming and he always did it for the content. As for him being innocent previously and being aggressive now, it's just how humans work. It's called getting comfortable with someone else
I dunno, so far the only one getting hate here is Fiona, apparently. At least from what I've seen in this comment section and comments on clips channels. I'm not sure that either of them deserves hate for this situation, but so it goes
@@keksuntee During the entire stream, People were calling out Arther like 'Nick 2.0, Fumbled, Blah blah'. Fanfan was my favourite during the road trip stream. I loved her vibe. Not exactly sure what's going on behind the scenes. But this definitely not was a farm, she was serious during this stream
@@leturdachi Nothing specific happened. She joined the stream just usually and the ship crashed hard. She might be too fed up with the shippers or it might have been causing problems in her real life relationships.
@@sambasiva1297 oh i see, I'm a yt frog I don't watch them on twitch, so thanks for clarifying. Idk if it's farming either, but Fanfan did say that she was feeling depressed and disconnected lately, so maybe this whole conversation was a byproduct of that. I'm no expert though - but I'm sure they're still good friends and will talk and stream together like always. I do agree with Fiona, some people have blown this whole shipping trend way out of proportion. Whether or not they "signed up for this" or "perpetuated it", as a lot of folks say, is a whole other conversation that we don't need to get into right now, me thinks
Yeah.. FanFan was the one who started with the over-the-top farming (being "in love", sexual comments etc), Arther just started matching her unhingedness after a while. And now she's trying to paint him as the one who took things too far? Sheesh. I hope FanFan can resolve her private issues and that they can continue being friends. Kodus to Arther for being the bigger man here and not throwing her under the bus like she did to him here.
she liked it more when he was submissively complimenting her without any real implications. she didn't have an issue with people calling him a simp or loser
@@sebbo1496 she has strong dom vibes that the problem she loves him but she also doesn't want to be on the losing end of things in other words she is not trying hard for her love
"My favorite phase", talking like it's nostalgic and like he's changed into some twisted vile version of himself. My god, that is a person living in the past and clinging to false memories. I had people like this infesting my space and almost destroying my life and confidence. Just keep going, Arther.
So basically, she got in a fight with her IRL Bf over the flirting, and to stop the arguing, she promised to make it clear to viewers that it's all fake. However, Fanfan didn't want to come off as rude to Arthur, so her awkward ass made this convo awkard for all of us.
Please Arthur don't change yourself. As a viewer, your character development is amazing. Please ignore what other people say. At the end of the day you are not happy if you are not who you are.
6:37 IT TAKES TWO TO TANGO, WHY'S MY PREDATOR BEING LABELED AS "CHANGED MAN" WHEN SHE'S THE ONE CHANGING FOR NOT ENGAGING WITH THE NORMAL AMOUNT OF FARMING AS BEFORE??? HELLOOO??
I cant lie fanfan exhausted me with this nonsensical blaming/non-blaming? Lol anyway keep it moving Mister Arther 💪 If i had to guess from an outsider's perspective her relationship is getting weird from the farming and now shes blaming you, instead of owning up to her part of the farming and just asking if you guys can stop. She literally licked your hand on stream but this is your fault for doing too much i guess?? Lol Anyway keep it moving :)
Is like to see an abusive relationship, somebody saying "im not mad at you. But you know whst you did, you are not the same, again in not mad at you, but i like you more in the past" like ..
She clearly has something going on with her personal life and doesn't want to farm. And now she's making it seem like they were never farming and Arthur is the bad guy. Dissapointed but not surprised
That's literally not what she said. Multiple times throughout the video she has admitted that they were farming. And she didn't even associate anything bad or good to Arthur's style of farming. She just said it felt more manufactured/purposeful.
@@Grimjr7 Well, no matter what they say, the streams are just a transaction. This is entertainment industry. The "real" things are happening off-stream. They both earn money from streaming. I think she could've handled this a better way. It's not about what she's saying. It's about what she's implying. Anyways, maybe I'm dumb.
I'm glad arther didn't agree with fanfan blindly and thought for himself. No lie I am also kinda confused why this seem to have come out of nowhere maybe something she's been thinking about for a while and sure arther has changed a bit but the change I see is him being more confident/comfortable which is a good thing so maybe she just prefers the shyer version of arther. Hopefully this doesn't mess with his head too much
any boyfriend would feel generally abit "mmm whats going on" when the chemistry between arther and fanfan was so genuine and real the flirting was real. this got too much and now fanfan is tryna calm it down and blame it all on arthur etc cus her bf is getting annoyed at it.
Haha, being super flirty with your male friend as a girl when you're in a relationship is certainly a way to live your life She is also basically saying "I liked it when you flirted with me and complimented me, but now that its obvious its only for farm and not genuine I dont like it anymore"
spot on. she's is very carefully dancing around the fact that she's kind of jealous and liked it when there was only benefits for her. she was totally fine with people calling him a loser and stuck in the friendzone. he tanked that shit and she's all sensitive
@@toptrends88 well you get turned off when the guy you're ''flirt/farming'' with is also doing the same ''flirt/farming'' with every girl he's live with it doesnt feel special anymore.
@@PublicPilll When it comes to streaming and specially "farming streams", almost everything is done for the purpose of content creation. It's just for entertainment purpose. The "real" things are happening off-stream. In this case, this could've handled it a better way if she did this talk off-stream.
@@toptrends88That's literally not what's happening and I noticed it super early when someone is getting, I wouldn't say criticized sure I'll say criticized they feel like the criticism automatically is that they're doing something wrong or bad. But she goes out of her way to say multiple times and she's not saying it's a bad thing. It's just an apparent change that she has noticed. But he can't wrap his head around him because he is in the mindset that she is saying he is doing something wrong. This is the reason every time she says that none of the drugs made her feel uncomfortable. He seems confused because he is in the mindset that she's saying he did something wrong while she's also telling him that he didn't do anything wrong. That's what's confusing him and you. Someone changing doesn't have to be a negative thing, but she is pointing out the fact that he is different than how he used to be.
That was strange, Arthur is just starting to come out of his shell content wise. This seems more like something you’d say to a friend off stream… instead. Like I understand some of the commentary from the parasocial’s can be overwhelming but still.
I don't understand much about this but the whole arthur is different conversation just seems like a natural transition of im comfortable with myself and people enough to say more, thats how ive always been making new friends quiet not too pushy mindful of what i say before i say it, than i let loose a little and become more open
What i got from this was she was trying to say she doesnt want to farm anymore because arther has gotten more confident and instead of the past where it was just innocent arther being bashful and fionna being classic fanfan, now its confident arther and fiona who has been lashing out at chat, constantly talking about quitting streaming altogether seems to not be as into all of this. She wants to stop but doesnt know to explain it. The dynamic changed on both ends in the opposite way. Best to just be friends offline and end the duo streams with fanfan and instead farm with people who are into it.
From 24:00 on Authur know, but want her to say it that she's the one changing it bc of having a bf now she just don't want to have it mentioned them to being together. Farming way of breaking up, but we can be friends
Fanfan’s the type to flirt with others while in a relationship, then blame them for responding or getting involved. It’s wild how she plays the victim, like she had no part in it. On top of that, she acts like Arther’s the only one gaining anything from this-whether it’s clips or attention as a streamer. Kinda funny, honestly.
She was doing ungodly levels of farming from the start, and is now complaining that he's starting to respond with the same thing. And he's so nice he's not calling all that out, on stream.
I feel like she just wants that soy boy, harmless and controllable version of arther. I don't think it has anything to do with her bf. Once he started developing more character, she wants to dip.
Bro no offense but you sound too invested. How would you, a viewer somewhere on earth, know what any of them want? The only thing anyone can go by is what the streamer says themselves.
@@fsn473bruh as if people can’t speculate on other peoples behaviors? You’re making it sound like magic when it’s in fact pretty normal human social interaction to try to understand how or what someone wants
Hard to watch comming from a mf who always know farm content is meant to be just that. Well at least after this upload people can see arther dont really give a fck obout any romantic thing and he is down to let a friend treat him like trash if that means she can be fine after that. Mf is the bigger person for not calling out fanfan at the moment or even now. She have her hown irl problems mixed and now she tried to blame the end on him, hope she get some help in this and csn recognice how bad this whas and who is the real one. Props to arther for having the balls to upload a video who is going to make many girls mad at him just to help the situation.
It’s pretty simple. Fanfan does this farming thing pretty comfortably with others. She was dominate with this little social game with Arther and he was more innocent about it, but he learned the game quick and just became more comfortable and confident. She is no longer in control and dominate.
I have to clarify this at the beginning “I am not a parasocial” I know they are farming for the bit. What I do believe started this is Fiona’s boyfriend got jealous and felt that it was too real so Fiona had to come out and do this
Even though I know this was more for the parasocials to stop shipping them. I feel this should have been an off stream talk, Arther comes off as a "bad guy" for having "content brain" when both were farming nonstop.
I get not wanting to farm anymore, but fanfan in the beginning always seemed to start it, now he matching your freak its bad?? Lets just say what we all know, its the 1%, and it got too real, do t blame MA
The actual truth is this is entirely her fault. She shouldn't have mentioned the other guy on stream multiple times when he wanted to stay private. Otherwise the farming on stream was fine. She had her entire discord simping for her delusions where she felt confident enough to bring this up on stream.
Having a full discord whit yes man really fuck up anybody reality. Arther literally whas fine whitout her all this time, she could say this off stream and stop colabs untill roadtrip and change their dinamic there, but well, some people cant think when they are heated
A true friend wouldn't bring this out on stream, blaming him like she wasn't making all these sexual jokes, she even licked his hand, she's just terrible, what a disappointment 😞😞.
Keep up the good work Arther! What she said didn't make much sense to me and you're definitely not in the wrong here! I'll keep watching no matter what you do and with who (or just you alone). Grüße aus Hamburg
Both have two “personas”- FanFan/Fiona and MisterArther/Arther. She likes the interactions between FanFan and Arther, when he is shocked by her over the top persona, but his MisterArther persona that takes situations and alludes to relationships/clippable moments affects Fiona’s personal life and actual BF. It’s tough, but the MisterArther persona has been really working for him and the growth of his channel, as long as both parties consent. And inherently ppl will “ship” a man and a woman that have good chemistry unfortunately.
...so why she started with the jokes then, because she was the one who started all this situation from day 1, we all knew that she was dating someone before meeting Arther... all of the sex jokes and etc ...90 % maybe 95 % they are all hers , even Arther told her to "Stop" or "Relax" ... laughing of course maybe to defuse the situation sometimes. We all sense something about her and we are not telling that she is emotionally unstable. This is the reality. Fanfan's community saw this and knew that for example: she's crying and laughing at the same time , or laughing and after 5 seconds shes starting to cry, what that suppose to mean ? Im not expert or something but sometimes shes having very weird behavior , even when shes alone during her streams... maybe shes not her fault or maybe she doesn't know that shes having a problem. Not blaming her or something, but ... we can't suddenly THROW MUD at Arther ... for what... because shes unstable emotionally ? come on guys... im risking my stocks here -.- (anyway im gonna be called parasocial and shit but idgaf), im here because i had a friend who did jail time being innocent... because of some fake sex jokes so ... P.S. my friend killed himself so this shit can be real, and we live in a fucked up world so ... i hope they gonna move on and be ok. wish all the best. peace!
I think I'm more understanding of Arther here. It's all fake so I don't really understand why she would feel the way she does. I mean all I can say is it's clearly gone too far for FanFan and she needs to step back which is fine! I hope behind the scenes you're taking care of your friends Arther!
Meh, she asks too much of you and now she is throwing you under the bus while doing whatever she wants. She wants to make you dance. Stop dancing. Stop being on the defensive. If she wanted to talk to you as "fiona" she would have done it offline. This is weird behavior.. Its obviously her bf that intervened or similar and wants to make a statement. Go next!
Lol telling someone whose ass you slapped on stream they are farming too hard is wild. Love the new Arthur keep it up! Fionna is having a bad day or something.
"You've changed" is an interesting way to say "Respectfully, my partner and I are getting uncomfortable with the shipping bleeding into our private relationship. May we proceed by toning back the pogo content? Sorry for licking your hand on stream BTW, I acknowledge my role in all of this and will not push it going forward"
People defending Arther and getting at Fanfan are being disingenuous. She didn’t say he took it too far she’s just saying the farming became less natural and less entertaining which is true! She even said she’s not blaming him for it cus it’s a 2 way street. I personally thought their first few streams were by far the best
She said that after literally blaming him. I made a comment about pretty much that before finishing the video and by the end, Arther was basically saying the same thing. It's like, she's telling him all these things he did wrong, but then saying he did nothing wrong. I also don't understand how she feels it's forced now when, early on, she was farming harder than he has been lately. All in all, I think this is just a sign to stop the farming all together. And he should maybe focus his streams elsewhere.
She's literally jealous that he flirts with other girls lmfaooooo. "I liked the old you better". This girl belongs to the STREETS. Hope her bf escapes in time before it's too late
Saying that she doesn't mind the shippers, but also basically blaming Arther for what comes with the territory of shipping, is confusing. Shipping will never be all wholesome no matter what anyone does. Once the shipping starts happening, the other stuff is going to come with it regardless. It's even more confusing considering she was heavy on the farming at one point as well.
This literally should have been like a two minute conversation. Fiona should have just said she doesnt want to keep ramping up the farming because it makes it so that she cant even interact with him anymore without farming every other sentence. Not everyone is always in the mood to farm 100% of the time. It gets tiring. Her mistake was phrasing it has "you've changed". Thats a phrase you dont say to people you care about. If you tell a girl "you've changed", you're done, cooked.
hope this doesn't blow up the friendship all together because that's what was actually entertaining to watch (my favourite moment was them discussing rom-coms during the korean dating game stream). in my opinion there's no bad guy in te situation, FanFan has every right to decide at any moment that what comes with the farming jokes got out of hands and she's not into it anymore and Arther is valid in getting defensive when he gets told he's changed in a not very positive way. to me as a viewer both seemed to partake very enthusiastically in the farming content up until very recently but it's okay to decide to stop. porbably a conversation to have off-stream to avoid all the collateral chatter (myself included) but too bad, hope they can both move past this and stay friends!
Feels like Arther is so nice that he doesn’t mind taking the blame, while fully knowing he didn’t do anything wrong and fanfan started everything. Arther doesn’t have to “stop farming”. He’s just being himself and now she’s uncomfortable with what she started because clearly her real life bf has a problem with their relationship. Anyone with eyes can see that Arther and fanfan have feelings for each other that happened naturally. I bet they definitely do not text as much anymore.
All i can think about when watching this is wtf didnt she just lick this dude not to long ago lol. They were both farming for crazy long before this and also take that fanfan thing down in the back lmao.
I think friendships can be complicated naturally, and adding farming, entertainment and public opinion can really heighten the positives, negatives and muddy waters. I think they should do whatever is healthiest for their friendship and mental health.
Idk whats more weird: viewers getting invested and shipping, streamers being confused/hurt that people are treating them like a reality show after farming or me somehow ending up on this video without much context but still watching it all and chiming in as if my opinion matters.
If my girlfriend pretended to flirt with another guy I would get annoyed sooner or later. No surprise Fanfan's IRL relationship and friendships were affected and she should have known better tbh.
When you match her freak and she freaks out
Damn actually
Making a video out of it the next day is insane. W farmer
Telling the guy you licked on stream he's doing too much is crazy work.
facts
No. Shes right.
Hes trying too hard instead of being himself. Real Arthur is like the original Lord Of The Rings trilogy. Its honest and not worried about audience retention or what will be the flashiest thing or how to create the most drama. Then there is the LotR tv show, or another example would be Marvel movies. You always want to Jump the Shark. it has to be bigger and better more dramatic. who cares if the story makes sense? who cares if its grounded in truth, somehow Palpatine returned.
Arthur now goes for the cheap laugh ALWAYS. hes always farming, which ends up boring. He can pretend to seduce every woman he talks too and they can do the same but thats boring. its been done, and with him. its easy content too, clickbait. He is farming clips as in 30 secs of content divorced from reality, but in doing so he is sacrificing long form content, where real people talk to each other.
Hes a tiktoker now. every 30 second clip and be stitched with a different woman where he says the same thing to each of them and then they respond.
Trying to hard for the easier content is boring and lacks all depth.
You can remove the fanfan sign now
yeah. lol
Best to remove it
I wouldn't, unless she asks for it.
remove
Νope..he should make a crack between the...fans like a thunder....and leave it there.... ..
Who knew that doing a live stream soap opera with a love triangle and people writing fan fics would result in someone's feelings getting hurt?
If he's smart, he keeps her at arms length and moves on, nothing good can come from carrying on. The problem with farming is that for the farm to work there has to be some chemistry, but if there is some chemistry shit gets confusing.
Initially on the side of Fanfan, but she was clearly fence-sitting between wanting the farm to go on, but/and it not affecting her IRL relationship. She sadly can't get both.
Ahh Fan Fan was one of my favorite streamers, because she was funny and didnt have to rely on her looks, even though I wouldnt say shes ugly. Kinda disappointing cos 1. She was the one who initiated this kinda talk, and 2. The person I thought FanFan was would be to strong of a woman to let her bf control her streaming persona like that (although he might genuinely be hurt or uncomfortable with it, and not just trying to control her).
It would be unfair to expect either of these guys to keep up this act forever. Especially now that Fanfan is openly sharing that she has a BF (who may, or may not have a problem with this level of flirting publicly - whether fake or not). I think Arther should be extremely proud of how well he has grown as a streamer/entertainer over the past few months. And how far this "arc" has taken his career. There is so much to come from him and I cannot wait to see it. Thank you Mister Arther and Fanfan for the quality content!
Oh they are young and dumb.... soon they will realize they are in love with each other...ships passing in the night
@@Cooptron stop
This was weird. And seemingly out of nowhere. Whatever - onward to the next adventure!
Yo arther got me dying bro he do not care
Im with arther on this one. IDK what she was talking about
Oh god watching it again, it really does feel like a car crash. I just can’t look away
We call this rubber necking where I’m
from
Yeah watched it live, but honestly fanfan has a point. The forced farming is getting boring at this point
@@surpoz4321yeah but FanFan ruined the illusion already like a month ago and ever since that FanFan and Arther content wasn’t nearly as interesting
Arther is still the same, just a little bit more confident. I don't know what she's talking about
@@PriestSecretnah you're something else
@@PriestSecretHow could you possibly know if any of what you just said was true?
First off, Arthur himself admitted he's different. Secondly, saying someone is a little bit more confident is still in an admission that they're different. And lastly and the most important thing is fan fan never attributed good or bad to him changing. People here someone say someone's changed and they automatically assume that they're saying they've changed for the worst.
It's pretty obvious that she was trying to say that when Arthur used to say or do things that people looked at as farming, she felt that that was Arthur just being himself and that that would be something he would say or do if the stream wasn't on. She's saying now she feels that Arthur has changed in the sense that some of the things he says or does are different than what he would usually do when a stream wasn't on. You call it confident that's fine but that is a change that is noticeable.
@@PriestSecretI don’t know what’s more insane…
Your level of parasocial brainrot or Arthur liking your comment 💀
Arther is VERY different compared to before. No idea how you can even argue otherwise.
In the past, he had some banger farming jokes, but just sprinkled in here and there. Now, he does nothing but those jokes and then just laughs akwardly.
It's obviously not a big deal and it's cool to see him gain more confidence, but he definitely over farming
I feel like this should be a private conversation
Imagine a friend pointing at you publicly "You changed, you are going too far." Isn't that kind of wild? Dude, I rememer the first streams he had with Nick and he has always been like this, only difference is that he is now more confident with it.
That’s clearly Dayman (Champion of the Sun) in street clothes and everyone is completely ignoring it. Ridiculous.
As sommeone who isn't invested in the parasocial stuff but who likes watching otk because these people bounce off of each other well with their humor, i have to say both were farming soo hard for clips that it just feels disingenuous for Fanfan to say that it wasn't like that in the beginning.
Then again reading some of the comments and twitch chat i can understand why they are annoyed bei the shipping culture they both/all have cultivated over the last months.
The problem is that really the only thing they are all farming are pretend relationships. In gta you could still say "it's only in game", but now you are broadcasting your "real" relationships so of course soap opera contend will attract soap opera viewers
this made no sense to me cause like, beginning of fanfan arc she was layering it on REALLY HEAVY and arther would hit the woah and blush, and then arther progressively layered it on light then heavy the REALLY HEAVY and now hes disingenuous and forced. ive heard this kind of explanation of behavior before from people and its always so frustrating, like basically getting blamed for ruining the vibe when you slowly matched their energy.
Arther you got to far.
Also fanfan: licks his sweaty hands on stream
yeah this kinda weird bc fanfan farmed it every bit as much as arther. she gaslighting the fuck out of arther here
Tbf she licked some other Asian guys spit wad from the palm of her hand. Shit was gross.
Im all one for trading cleam spit with my girl but aint nobody finna see us do it! 😂 everyone does nasty things behind closed doors but KEEP IT THERE!
@@FairtoCycloneI don't get why she even cares TBH
@@jasonbourne4784she doesn’t, but someone else might 😂
I know a lot of people are hating on Arther after this. But dude, he was always in his limits. He knew he was farming and he always did it for the content.
As for him being innocent previously and being aggressive now, it's just how humans work. It's called getting comfortable with someone else
What exactly happened? I haven’t been watching anything
I dunno, so far the only one getting hate here is Fiona, apparently. At least from what I've seen in this comment section and comments on clips channels. I'm not sure that either of them deserves hate for this situation, but so it goes
@@keksuntee During the entire stream, People were calling out Arther like 'Nick 2.0, Fumbled, Blah blah'.
Fanfan was my favourite during the road trip stream. I loved her vibe. Not exactly sure what's going on behind the scenes. But this definitely not was a farm, she was serious during this stream
@@leturdachi Nothing specific happened. She joined the stream just usually and the ship crashed hard.
She might be too fed up with the shippers or it might have been causing problems in her real life relationships.
@@sambasiva1297 oh i see, I'm a yt frog I don't watch them on twitch, so thanks for clarifying.
Idk if it's farming either, but Fanfan did say that she was feeling depressed and disconnected lately, so maybe this whole conversation was a byproduct of that. I'm no expert though - but I'm sure they're still good friends and will talk and stream together like always. I do agree with Fiona, some people have blown this whole shipping trend way out of proportion. Whether or not they "signed up for this" or "perpetuated it", as a lot of folks say, is a whole other conversation that we don't need to get into right now, me thinks
Yeah.. FanFan was the one who started with the over-the-top farming (being "in love", sexual comments etc), Arther just started matching her unhingedness after a while. And now she's trying to paint him as the one who took things too far? Sheesh. I hope FanFan can resolve her private issues and that they can continue being friends. Kodus to Arther for being the bigger man here and not throwing her under the bus like she did to him here.
she loves him that's the problem and she trying too hard to hide it ts is sad
she liked it more when he was submissively complimenting her without any real implications. she didn't have an issue with people calling him a simp or loser
@@sebbo1496 she has strong dom vibes that the problem she loves him but she also doesn't want to be on the losing end of things in other words she is not trying hard for her love
This editor is a menace 😂😂
"My favorite phase", talking like it's nostalgic and like he's changed into some twisted vile version of himself. My god, that is a person living in the past and clinging to false memories. I had people like this infesting my space and almost destroying my life and confidence. Just keep going, Arther.
Arther finally matched her jokes. BF got mad, shes trying to save face with her BF for the jokes she makes by making Arther the bad guy. To sum up.
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Guess it's difficult for some people to take responsibility and admit to their own mistakes.
She never said her bf got mad. You're making shit up. You're the kind of low IQ viewer who is making things worse when you invent these headcanons.
Astute.
Go outside more often
So basically, she got in a fight with her IRL Bf over the flirting, and to stop the arguing, she promised to make it clear to viewers that it's all fake. However, Fanfan didn't want to come off as rude to Arthur, so her awkward ass made this convo awkard for all of us.
Lmao didn’t wanna be rude? She basically shifted all the blame to Arther when he was only just starting to matches her energy with the farming
Yeah perfect way to put it
@@mambalevel1017yea she blamed him
Thats a bit of a reach, unless you specifically heard her saying that.
That's crazy, if I was Arthur I would just leave her to it if shes gunna blame him when all he's done is match her energy.
Please Arthur don't change yourself. As a viewer, your character development is amazing. Please ignore what other people say. At the end of the day you are not happy if you are not who you are.
We did it. They thought they were farming us but we were farming them.
Where's my money? 🤣🤣
6:37 IT TAKES TWO TO TANGO, WHY'S MY PREDATOR BEING LABELED AS "CHANGED MAN" WHEN SHE'S THE ONE CHANGING FOR NOT ENGAGING WITH THE NORMAL AMOUNT OF FARMING AS BEFORE??? HELLOOO??
I cant lie fanfan exhausted me with this nonsensical blaming/non-blaming? Lol anyway keep it moving Mister Arther 💪 If i had to guess from an outsider's perspective her relationship is getting weird from the farming and now shes blaming you, instead of owning up to her part of the farming and just asking if you guys can stop. She literally licked your hand on stream but this is your fault for doing too much i guess?? Lol Anyway keep it moving :)
Is like to see an abusive relationship, somebody saying "im not mad at you. But you know whst you did, you are not the same, again in not mad at you, but i like you more in the past" like ..
this ruined my entire day (parasocially)
lol at least you're honest
She clearly has something going on with her personal life and doesn't want to farm. And now she's making it seem like they were never farming and Arthur is the bad guy. Dissapointed but not surprised
Exactly
W take. Makes a lot of sense
yep
That's literally not what she said. Multiple times throughout the video she has admitted that they were farming. And she didn't even associate anything bad or good to Arthur's style of farming. She just said it felt more manufactured/purposeful.
@@Grimjr7 Well, no matter what they say, the streams are just a transaction. This is entertainment industry. The "real" things are happening off-stream. They both earn money from streaming. I think she could've handled this a better way. It's not about what she's saying. It's about what she's implying. Anyways, maybe I'm dumb.
I'm glad arther didn't agree with fanfan blindly and thought for himself. No lie I am also kinda confused why this seem to have come out of nowhere maybe something she's been thinking about for a while and sure arther has changed a bit but the change I see is him being more confident/comfortable which is a good thing so maybe she just prefers the shyer version of arther.
Hopefully this doesn't mess with his head too much
Yeah that was pretty based. Arther just act soy but he isnt
Probably has something to do with her private life, she's been saying a lot about being depressed lately. But I hate that she try to blame others
any boyfriend would feel generally abit "mmm whats going on" when the chemistry between arther and fanfan was so genuine and real the flirting was real. this got too much and now fanfan is tryna calm it down and blame it all on arthur etc cus her bf is getting annoyed at it.
this. People acting like it isnt exaclty that.
🎯 take
what kind of friend puts you on the spot like that on stream? No friend.
Many such cases with FanFan. Thought she was cool until she started putting Arther on blast publicly a while ago
Haha, being super flirty with your male friend as a girl when you're in a relationship is
certainly a way to live your life
She is also basically saying "I liked it when you flirted with me and complimented me, but now that its obvious its only for farm and not genuine I dont like it anymore"
spot on. she's is very carefully dancing around the fact that she's kind of jealous and liked it when there was only benefits for her. she was totally fine with people calling him a loser and stuck in the friendzone. he tanked that shit and she's all sensitive
@@sebbo1496 i mean also for the last 3 weeks no one talked about her and now she says its too much
Fanfan started this shit and is now acting like she aint part of it. weird
100% Also she's making it seem like Arthur is the bad guy. That's the disappointing part.
@@toptrends88 well you get turned off when the guy you're ''flirt/farming'' with is also doing the same ''flirt/farming'' with every girl he's live with it doesnt feel special anymore.
@@PublicPilll When it comes to streaming and specially "farming streams", almost everything is done for the purpose of content creation. It's just for entertainment purpose. The "real" things are happening off-stream. In this case, this could've handled it a better way if she did this talk off-stream.
@@toptrends88That's literally not what's happening and I noticed it super early when someone is getting, I wouldn't say criticized sure I'll say criticized they feel like the criticism automatically is that they're doing something wrong or bad. But she goes out of her way to say multiple times and she's not saying it's a bad thing. It's just an apparent change that she has noticed. But he can't wrap his head around him because he is in the mindset that she is saying he is doing something wrong. This is the reason every time she says that none of the drugs made her feel uncomfortable. He seems confused because he is in the mindset that she's saying he did something wrong while she's also telling him that he didn't do anything wrong. That's what's confusing him and you. Someone changing doesn't have to be a negative thing, but she is pointing out the fact that he is different than how he used to be.
@ it’s obvious they don’t talk much off stream
That was strange, Arthur is just starting to come out of his shell content wise. This seems more like something you’d say to a friend off stream… instead. Like I understand some of the commentary from the parasocial’s can be overwhelming but still.
She just can't say that her bf doesn't like it. That's all...
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y'know, maybe the real ship was the friends we met along the way 🫡
I don't understand much about this but the whole arthur is different conversation just seems like a natural transition of im comfortable with myself and people enough to say more, thats how ive always been making new friends quiet not too pushy mindful of what i say before i say it, than i let loose a little and become more open
This felt like it should’ve been spoken about off stream n fan fan should just been blunt about everything
What i got from this was she was trying to say she doesnt want to farm anymore because arther has gotten more confident and instead of the past where it was just innocent arther being bashful and fionna being classic fanfan, now its confident arther and fiona who has been lashing out at chat, constantly talking about quitting streaming altogether seems to not be as into all of this. She wants to stop but doesnt know to explain it. The dynamic changed on both ends in the opposite way. Best to just be friends offline and end the duo streams with fanfan and instead farm with people who are into it.
People who can take it and separate real life from stream
From 24:00 on Authur know, but want her to say it that she's the one changing it bc of having a bf now she just don't want to have it mentioned them to being together. Farming way of breaking up, but we can be friends
Fanfan’s the type to flirt with others while in a relationship, then blame them for responding or getting involved. It’s wild how she plays the victim, like she had no part in it. On top of that, she acts like Arther’s the only one gaining anything from this-whether it’s clips or attention as a streamer. Kinda funny, honestly.
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She was doing ungodly levels of farming from the start, and is now complaining that he's starting to respond with the same thing.
And he's so nice he's not calling all that out, on stream.
least parasocial viewer
Don't blame her nothing is that bad, it's just life.
She seems like the kind to blame Arthur if she cheats on her secret BF
I feel like she just wants that soy boy, harmless and controllable version of arther. I don't think it has anything to do with her bf. Once he started developing more character, she wants to dip.
Bro no offense but you sound too invested. How would you, a viewer somewhere on earth, know what any of them want? The only thing anyone can go by is what the streamer says themselves.
@@fsn473fanfan wanna marry nick n have babies i heard it
@@fsn473bruh as if people can’t speculate on other peoples behaviors? You’re making it sound like magic when it’s in fact pretty normal human social interaction to try to understand how or what someone wants
Hard to watch comming from a mf who always know farm content is meant to be just that.
Well at least after this upload people can see arther dont really give a fck obout any romantic thing and he is down to let a friend treat him like trash if that means she can be fine after that.
Mf is the bigger person for not calling out fanfan at the moment or even now.
She have her hown irl problems mixed and now she tried to blame the end on him, hope she get some help in this and csn recognice how bad this whas and who is the real one.
Props to arther for having the balls to upload a video who is going to make many girls mad at him just to help the situation.
she is a hypocrite.
and I'm being nice.
Friendly advice.
❤“😠TALK BEFORE STREAMING😠” ❤
You guys must talk it out before streaming. It’s very uncomfortable for both of you to communicate unless it’s private.
Unless if all of this is completely a joke😂 then you got me😂😅
its ok misterarthur u can be our lion and bear we love you either way
Arther sure has changed a little but that isnt really weird, you become like the people you hang out with
It’s pretty simple. Fanfan does this farming thing pretty comfortably with others. She was dominate with this little social game with Arther and he was more innocent about it, but he learned the game quick and just became more comfortable and confident. She is no longer in control and dominate.
Imagine if you told fanfan "you've changed"
Why is she making everything so confusing. Lmao
Bringing it up on stream. When it could've been done behind the scenes. Definitely felt awks.
o7
This is so weird, she’s gaslighting the shit outta this dude lol
I have to clarify this at the beginning “I am not a parasocial” I know they are farming for the bit. What I do believe started this is Fiona’s boyfriend got jealous and felt that it was too real so Fiona had to come out and do this
Even though I know this was more for the parasocials to stop shipping them. I feel this should have been an off stream talk, Arther comes off as a "bad guy" for having "content brain" when both were farming nonstop.
For the parasocials to stop shipping them? Oh no, no... she said she doesn't have a problem with the shipping 🙃
I get not wanting to farm anymore, but fanfan in the beginning always seemed to start it, now he matching your freak its bad?? Lets just say what we all know, its the 1%, and it got too real, do t blame MA
What happened exactly? I haven’t been watching anything
@@leturdachi they have good chemistry, and farmed it for a bit... but overly invested viewers ruined the vibes cause it created friction irl
Her frustration/observation makes sense, she does really like him obviously so
what she is saying is "please only farm me and not other girls"
Let me get this straight... She farmed content with her jokes, Arthur did the same... and now he's the bad guy? How the fuck does that make sense?
The actual truth is this is entirely her fault. She shouldn't have mentioned the other guy on stream multiple times when he wanted to stay private. Otherwise the farming on stream was fine. She had her entire discord simping for her delusions where she felt confident enough to bring this up on stream.
Having a full discord whit yes man really fuck up anybody reality.
Arther literally whas fine whitout her all this time, she could say this off stream and stop colabs untill roadtrip and change their dinamic there, but well, some people cant think when they are heated
How do you know? As in like, did she stream herself talkign to Discord people or was all the convo on discord?
@@360Fov anybody can be on their discord bruh
A true friend wouldn't bring this out on stream, blaming him like she wasn't making all these sexual jokes, she even licked his hand, she's just terrible, what a disappointment 😞😞.
Bro said content and numbers > 😭😭
Keep up the good work Arther! What she said didn't make much sense to me and you're definitely not in the wrong here! I'll keep watching no matter what you do and with who (or just you alone). Grüße aus Hamburg
This episode was so good the drama was immaculate 10/10
Both have two “personas”- FanFan/Fiona and MisterArther/Arther. She likes the interactions between FanFan and Arther, when he is shocked by her over the top persona, but his MisterArther persona that takes situations and alludes to relationships/clippable moments affects Fiona’s personal life and actual BF. It’s tough, but the MisterArther persona has been really working for him and the growth of his channel, as long as both parties consent. And inherently ppl will “ship” a man and a woman that have good chemistry unfortunately.
...so why she started with the jokes then, because she was the one who started all this situation from day 1, we all knew that she was dating someone before meeting Arther... all of the sex jokes and etc ...90 % maybe 95 % they are all hers , even Arther told her to "Stop" or "Relax" ... laughing of course maybe to defuse the situation sometimes.
We all sense something about her and we are not telling that she is emotionally unstable. This is the reality. Fanfan's community saw this and knew that for example: she's crying and laughing at the same time , or laughing and after 5 seconds shes starting to cry, what that suppose to mean ? Im not expert or something but sometimes shes having very weird behavior , even when shes alone during her streams... maybe shes not her fault or maybe she doesn't know that shes having a problem. Not blaming her or something, but ... we can't suddenly THROW MUD at Arther ... for what... because shes unstable emotionally ? come on guys... im risking my stocks here -.- (anyway im gonna be called parasocial and shit but idgaf), im here because i had a friend who did jail time being innocent... because of some fake sex jokes so ...
P.S. my friend killed himself so this shit can be real, and we live in a fucked up world so ... i hope they gonna move on and be ok. wish all the best. peace!
I think I'm more understanding of Arther here. It's all fake so I don't really understand why she would feel the way she does. I mean all I can say is it's clearly gone too far for FanFan and she needs to step back which is fine! I hope behind the scenes you're taking care of your friends Arther!
Meh, she asks too much of you and now she is throwing you under the bus while doing whatever she wants. She wants to make you dance. Stop dancing. Stop being on the defensive.
If she wanted to talk to you as "fiona" she would have done it offline. This is weird behavior.. Its obviously her bf that intervened or similar and wants to make a statement.
Go next!
Lol telling someone whose ass you slapped on stream they are farming too hard is wild. Love the new Arthur keep it up! Fionna is having a bad day or something.
Basically, her boyfriend got mad. Arthur likes her but is trying to play it off cuz now she's treating him like a stranger.
Kind of off topic but Innes on that love or host will go crazy lmao
The roadtrip to streamer award is going to be awkward af.
70% of the parasocials in suicide watch after realizing it was all content LUL
"You've changed" is an interesting way to say "Respectfully, my partner and I are getting uncomfortable with the shipping bleeding into our private relationship. May we proceed by toning back the pogo content? Sorry for licking your hand on stream BTW, I acknowledge my role in all of this and will not push it going forward"
Bro wtf was fan fan talking about. “I don’t see your point” she doesn’t have one
Women are like a puzzle , just when your about to place the last piece to solve it , the last piece doesn't fit .
It's time to sail to other way.
Salma or Acie. I'm happy with any.
@@toptrends88i want noras cousin, thst mf know how to farm and is fcking funny
People defending Arther and getting at Fanfan are being disingenuous. She didn’t say he took it too far she’s just saying the farming became less natural and less entertaining which is true! She even said she’s not blaming him for it cus it’s a 2 way street. I personally thought their first few streams were by far the best
She said that after literally blaming him. I made a comment about pretty much that before finishing the video and by the end, Arther was basically saying the same thing. It's like, she's telling him all these things he did wrong, but then saying he did nothing wrong. I also don't understand how she feels it's forced now when, early on, she was farming harder than he has been lately. All in all, I think this is just a sign to stop the farming all together. And he should maybe focus his streams elsewhere.
😂 she didnt say shit, she does not like it but also she is fine with it 😂 pull the plug Arther, pull the plug
@ here comes the laughing emoji incel brigade
absolute car wreck , 10/10 writing on this episode
That was hard to watch....
She's literally jealous that he flirts with other girls lmfaooooo. "I liked the old you better". This girl belongs to the STREETS. Hope her bf escapes in time before it's too late
Relax
Saying that she doesn't mind the shippers, but also basically blaming Arther for what comes with the territory of shipping, is confusing. Shipping will never be all wholesome no matter what anyone does. Once the shipping starts happening, the other stuff is going to come with it regardless. It's even more confusing considering she was heavy on the farming at one point as well.
This literally should have been like a two minute conversation. Fiona should have just said she doesnt want to keep ramping up the farming because it makes it so that she cant even interact with him anymore without farming every other sentence. Not everyone is always in the mood to farm 100% of the time. It gets tiring. Her mistake was phrasing it has "you've changed". Thats a phrase you dont say to people you care about. If you tell a girl "you've changed", you're done, cooked.
hope this doesn't blow up the friendship all together because that's what was actually entertaining to watch (my favourite moment was them discussing rom-coms during the korean dating game stream).
in my opinion there's no bad guy in te situation, FanFan has every right to decide at any moment that what comes with the farming jokes got out of hands and she's not into it anymore and Arther is valid in getting defensive when he gets told he's changed in a not very positive way.
to me as a viewer both seemed to partake very enthusiastically in the farming content up until very recently but it's okay to decide to stop.
porbably a conversation to have off-stream to avoid all the collateral chatter (myself included) but too bad,
hope they can both move past this and stay friends!
what a great title... The ship sailed, the crew became ail, now it's all wrecked.....
my pov: fanfan refusing free fertile soil to farm
Feels like Arther is so nice that he doesn’t mind taking the blame, while fully knowing he didn’t do anything wrong and fanfan started everything. Arther doesn’t have to “stop farming”. He’s just being himself and now she’s uncomfortable with what she started because clearly her real life bf has a problem with their relationship. Anyone with eyes can see that Arther and fanfan have feelings for each other that happened naturally. I bet they definitely do not text as much anymore.
Mr. Arthers evolution is unstoppable! Champ!
Fanfan is so hurt about Arthur that she's breaking up with him
All i can think about when watching this is wtf didnt she just lick this dude not to long ago lol. They were both farming for crazy long before this and also take that fanfan thing down in the back lmao.
so she is also blaming him but not blaming him. like bro, don't play both sides. loved that he pointed it out at end and didn't just agree
Sigh...Nice 5 0clock shadow btw, actually looking quite good.
She's saying you're starting to farm and act too much like Nick now and not Mister Arther anymore
I think friendships can be complicated naturally, and adding farming, entertainment and public opinion can really heighten the positives, negatives and muddy waters. I think they should do whatever is healthiest for their friendship and mental health.
Let’s just have everyone back to being friends
Idk whats more weird: viewers getting invested and shipping, streamers being confused/hurt that people are treating them like a reality show after farming or me somehow ending up on this video without much context but still watching it all and chiming in as if my opinion matters.
Yeah I dunno. It’s sorta one of those things where the creators don’t think about the audience until it’s too late
Nah fiona this ain't it. You're the one who started it and now you're blaming arther.
If my girlfriend pretended to flirt with another guy I would get annoyed sooner or later. No surprise Fanfan's IRL relationship and friendships were affected and she should have known better tbh.