Gonna need to land on legs anyway, when Starship eventually lands on Moon/Mars. Might as well get some practice. PS; Why don't SpaceX try to land Star-Ship like the Futurama Ship? Just add some retro boosters on the sides!
I love the idea of offshore landing and launches. Eliminate the need for FAA approval. With a large supply of both boosters and Starships having lots in reserve makes sense. Like the airlines.
Landing legs were always going to be necessary for a starship; otherwise, it would be useless for landing on the Moon and Mars. Legs on the Boosters will make less of an impact on Musk's previous comments about mass to orbit when more powerful engines are used.
@@bojangles2492 Global war would kill many more people on Earth. Why even consider this thinking about Mars exploration? Should we be afraid of any shadow? Mars is for the brave and adventurous. Thanks God we are all different.
@jantoleu8392 You are filling in too many blanks, I said imagine. Which you did, no need to presume my point of view on the matter though. It is far more detailed and nuanced than I've let on.
I assume there will be evacuation plans in case supplies can't be delivered. Obviously once the population grows too large to just ship back home the colony needs to be self sufficient.
The starship with shock-absorbing landing legs always made better sense to me than the chopsticks tower grab method. That sounded like an accident waiting to happen. Plus, like the narration said, it gives more options. Smart.
First landings on other planets/moons will require legs as well. The weight saved by not having legs on either vehicle is worth it when they're not needed however.
Booster is going to make one heck of a sail. That will put it around the 25th biggest sail in the world. Yup., that drone ship is going to have to be much, much bigger then their current ones.
Starship has to walk before it can run. An intermediate droneship landing method will allow development time to perfect the tower landing on land. Starship has to move fast or lose momentum.
A much better landing platform would be fixed oil rig type system that could simply catch incoming starships and place them on transport ships eliminating the need for expensive specialized drone ships.
It's only the booster that ever needs to land on a droneship as it doesn't achieve orbit. The starship can easily land back at the starbase as it is in orbit and can time its re-entry to land back at base.
Catching the Booster and starship either inland or in the middle of the ocean will be both a special feat. Cannot wait to watch it Live! LETSGOOO SPACEX!!!
In the words of Robert F Kennedy... "Some men see things as they are and ask, ""Why?"" I dream things that never were and ask, ""Why not?"" . The Why Not crew makes stuff happen. Like reusing rocket stages that have been sent up before, cutting costs.
1. Great video! I have a question Kevin, anyone with an answer please pipe in too, Why don’t they bury the tank farm? Wouldn’t it help regulate the temperature better by allowing it to be underground? It would seem it would also protect the tanks from an accident on the surface.
ill assume because of the high water table. also would be difficult to secure the tanks underground. there is a tremendous amount of pressure and boyancy with buried tanks trying to burst out of the earth.
If the drone ship function is only for landing, the tower does not need to be as high as for launch. After landing, booster or Starship could be transferred to a shuttle drone ship that returns to launch site. Thus the number of landing drones is reduced with a larger # of drone shuttles, for returns. Also, does the landing droneship need to be limited to a single landing tower?
When landing most of the weight is in the engines. Land on elevated ring on shocks with automatic side paddle clamps. The engine ring should be way solid enough to take the load of an empty. booster.
Grabbing the booster/ship from mid air allows for some wiggle room (maybe meter or two). Altho if the ring could be moved around a bit then that might work as well.
Yeah I see a problem with starship and drone ships, it's quite heavy and needs a strongback to be shipped of to launch again because the drone ship can not hold new fuel, so a whole going back to the drawingtable is needed.
Good thought. I wonder about 100 tons of cargo via space versus ocean going cargo ships. We know it's 45 minutes vs 30 days shipping time. But the actual cost?
What if they had a deep concrete canal that came right into starbase from the sea where dockside cranes could grab anything off the landing bardges. Might not be easy, but is anything ???
I've always thought that SpaceX was going to need to put landing legs on their Starship and booster in order to accommodate landings on Mars and the moon as well as drone ships. It's about time somebody started talking about this. Thank you!!
Elon has made it clear. Landing legs weigh too much. The resulting reduction in payload/fuel capacity is unacceptable. Elon stated the MONUMENTAL cost and effort invested in " Stage Zero" may be greater than the actual crafts! For Earth landings, it will be "legless" regardless of location. Making Starship human rated? That's a long conversation. Unless a separate manned non-combustable capsule is incorporated, each launch will need a 2nd tower to catch the escaping Upper stage in the event of a platform launch failure.
I suspect that SpaceX are just keeping their options open with this filing about drone ships. SpaceX could build a new drone ship and have it ready long before the FAA can make a decision. So may as well get the FAA to review all the options as early as possible.
No. They have permission for x5 flights a year out of Texas, they hope for x25, which they may not be given. Given they do get permission that is x 50 huge sonic booms per annum blighting Boca Chica, Padre Island and Brownsville. I doubt they'll ever get permissions for that. Boca Chica was a lousy choice for Starbase.
So the thumbnail used for this image shows massive landing legs, the title landing leg revealed where in this video did you discuss this or use this image again or is this just a misleading title?
Landing on a drone ship in rough waters (i.e., a pitching deck) could be challenging. Even if a rough water landing is successful, will the drone recovery ship be stable enough to keep its tall, top -heavy load from capsizing the drone ship?
Dam heat shield would mess around with legs on outside, would need to put tiles on those too if your landing on earth. The small legs lack a lot of stability.
if they planning to land starship and booster out at sea everywhere around the planet, then I hope they're careful in avoiding areas high in piracy and such.
On the other hand, if Elan can provide jobs, perhaps the piracy will disappear? Many places are looked at as if they are only problem places, instead of opportunities, but lack of stable government is a big risk, large project, I love to see an backup supply route using high speed trains, to avoid red sea. and not having to sail around Africa.
Doing a few landings on a ship is smart. They need at least a couple landings on a platform target with plenty of cameras to gather real time data to see if they can “catch” it with robotic arms tomorrow.
all of thee above and then some more... if Starship where to deploy the midsection completely as I stated in earlier comments on this site... the reassembled nose and aft power sections brought together with the telescoping spars that run the full length of the ship make re entry much easier... ie only the nose and aft section need heat shield all fuel except that needed for landing is deployed with the midsection thereby maximizing the cargo and infrastructure deployed and reducing the mass for the tower catch...
Don't need LEGS or towers for the drone ship LANDING. A simple circle of 4 to 6 "braces", placed radially around the landing point on the drone ship, that swing UPWARDS from the deck, bracing it vertically as it lands.--- Like THIS /[]\ It would work on LAND too on a similar equipped landing site. --- Remember, I thought of this ;)
I agree with SpaceX now thinking of landing the StarShip booster offshore. It keeps the launch stand safe from destruction due to a Starship and booster RUD. They also should bring it back to the Gulf of Mexico to bring it back into the StarShip base. They should get permission to dredge out a pass to float the barge close to the facility.
Fascinating. It might be a medium term solution, because long term they do want fast turnarounds with starship and super heavy. Block 1 starship actually didn't have enough for spare mass to put cargo into orbit until raptor 3, and block 2 starship is when it actually has the capacity to carry the proposed 100 tons to LEO. Until the cadence gets up high enough for RTLS vs drone ship is the main issue time wise, it totally makes sense. Didn't think about this, cool video!
@@rogerphelps9939 If the goal is to start generating profit from starship and super heavy, it might make sense to land SH in the ocean. Not sure. The FAA document in the video covered a large breadth of possibilities from full RTLS to full expendable. It's interesting.
I was thinking a landing plat that has damping might have been better, the wight of the buster and rocket is huge, so even at slow speeds their huge forces hitting the ground. these forces can easily break the fuel tanks. having damping is therefore something that should be considered. lading arms requires high amount of pression. I agree dragging around landing legs sucks. But is it realistic.
You’re using the same thumbnail pic Tech map used to cover this a couple of weeks ago. Between in-house repetition, and competitor.? sites, these stories start to sound familiar. The price we pay for current space news
I dont doubt in time when the technology is in place, Starship wont require drone ship or a tower for launch and landing. Stacking would require a tower but reduced complexity... Landing legs like Falcon 9 would reduce infratructure significantly
drone ship landing for starship maybe but i think booster is just too big to ever land and be transported safely on the ocean. the drone ship would have to be massive like 5x the size of falcon 9 drone ship
couldn't you just put a nice pole with suspension for a landing gear that has a foot... that foot being metal... that an electromagnet in the landing pad could keep in place when triggered..as to not cause issues with the actual landing procedure before touchdown... an electromagnet landing leg grabbing mechanism. that could hold it in place until the crew secures it for transit. as a side note, these electro magnets could also help the landing craft to center itself in the landing pad (in those last few seconds before touchdown), as long as all the magnets work at the same time.. may even need to add a means for the circle of them to move.. in case the landing craft is off center too far.... will need a tracking system to keep the ring of magnets in position / relation wise to the landing craft. peace. hmm curious if there would be a way to use the magnets to move the boosters and such, while they are still on the pad? would this mean that the landing gear would need wheels integrated? or be shaped/designed(material wise) in such a way as to slide on the pad without damaging the feet?
É realmente terá que ter uma espécie de mini saia, quero dizer quatro asas no final do mega booster fixa para fazer um pouso em cima igual daqueles foguetes do Pernalonga
I don't see how the drone ship can survive the force of the rocket engines blasting it as the rocket lands. Seems like the forces involved are exponentially higher than a normal falcon landing.
The booster won't be carrying a full fuel load, so probably > 95% lighter that at launch. Landing an empty booster would only require a small fraction of the number of engines required at launch, and therefore not the destructive power launching a full booster and starship.
Soon we'll be sending the FAA to Mars to approve a landing site and do the environmental impact test. They'll probably use Boeing 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. I bet they’re just like, “fuck it, wherever you choose is good!”
The US FAA does not have jurisdiction on Mars.
Awesome comment 😂😅
😂😂 yeah haha
Musk should establish his own MAA. Mars Aviation Association.
Best benefit of sea launch and recovery is less government meddling
The FAA has jurisdiction over any US launch operator, even if they are not launching in the US.
SpaceX is actually doing something that’s been talked about for decades; frequent launches. Making space flight a much easier and accessible.
A Bold leap Forward won't happen until the FAA gets the HeII out of the way
@ronaldknowles2271 yes F@$k the FAA
Wow, SpaceX engineering has got a highly ambitious plain to figure out. Go SpaceX 🌎
Gonna need to land on legs anyway, when Starship eventually lands on
Moon/Mars. Might as well get some practice.
PS; Why don't SpaceX try to land Star-Ship like the Futurama Ship?
Just add some retro boosters on the sides!
excitement guaranteed on the landing.....
Spacex makes space fun again😅
Excitement guarantee!!!!
I love the idea of offshore landing and launches. Eliminate the need for FAA approval. With a large supply of both boosters and Starships having lots in reserve makes sense. Like the airlines.
It does not eliminate the need for FAA approval. Any US launch operator requires a license, even if operations are conducted outside of the US.
Your wrong. Space X requires an FAA license anywhere on Earth. US citizens are in solved, it's US Federal law.
Landing any type of rocket was thought to be impossible.
The land based landings are preferred, It is definitely not the lack of drone ships. Are you just making stuff up?
Yep
Landing legs were always going to be necessary for a starship; otherwise, it would be useless for landing on the Moon and Mars. Legs on the Boosters will make less of an impact on Musk's previous comments about mass to orbit when more powerful engines are used.
I'm a big fan of Starship with landing legs
I like the idea of legs on starship . It already knows how to land. I don't know about the booster though?🤔
Not really. Landing legs will always incur a payload penalty in order tto increase the fuel to carry the landing legs.
Not if there’s a mechazilla on the moon and mars
If we were in a war, destroying the two mechazilas would put Starship out of commission. It needs to be able to land on any flat surface.
Imagine living on Mars in the first base being totally reliant on Earth for supplies then global war breaks out here.
@@bojangles2492 Global war would kill many more people on Earth. Why even consider this thinking about Mars exploration?
Should we be afraid of any shadow? Mars is for the brave and adventurous. Thanks God we are all different.
@jantoleu8392 You are filling in too many blanks, I said imagine. Which you did, no need to presume my point of view on the matter though. It is far more detailed and nuanced than I've let on.
I assume there will be evacuation plans in case supplies can't be delivered. Obviously once the population grows too large to just ship back home the colony needs to be self sufficient.
Ya know, a nuclear recovery ship could produce all of the hydrogen and oxygen required for a H2-O2 rocket...
Anything nuclear takes decades to build and that's not fast enough for Space X's mission.
oh the irony of having the FAA and/or NASA complaining about delays from a private company.
The fact the catch arms on Tower 2 are shorter suggests some confidence.
The starship with shock-absorbing landing legs always made better sense to me than the chopsticks tower grab method. That sounded like an accident waiting to happen. Plus, like the narration said, it gives more options. Smart.
First landings on other planets/moons will require legs as well. The weight saved by not having legs on either vehicle is worth it when they're not needed however.
Booster is going to make one heck of a sail. That will put it around the 25th biggest sail in the world. Yup., that drone ship is going to have to be much, much bigger then their current ones.
Catching it with the arms just seems too risky to me. The drone ship makes way more sense,or a fixed platform in the ocean somewhere.
Starship has to walk before it can run. An intermediate droneship landing method will allow development time to perfect the tower landing on land. Starship has to move fast or lose momentum.
Limiting costs and rapid turnaround requires landing on land.
They need to PERFECT the landing of Starship to be HUMAN RATED.
Why? No other rocket lands (except falcon) and they are HUMAN RATED.
What a massive boost Starship will make to Australias economy. The reason I’ve not visited Australia is the flight time.
A much better landing platform would be fixed oil rig type system that could simply catch incoming starships and place them on transport ships eliminating the need for expensive specialized drone ships.
SpaceX bought 2 old platforms to do exactly that, did nothing with them for a while then sold them
It's only the booster that ever needs to land on a droneship as it doesn't achieve orbit. The starship can easily land back at the starbase as it is in orbit and can time its re-entry to land back at base.
Launching and returning to a sea based location seems the most advantages.
One correction. As SH approaches the tower its going too slow for the grid fins to do anything.
Catching the Booster and starship either inland or in the middle of the ocean will be both a special feat. Cannot wait to watch it Live! LETSGOOO SPACEX!!!
Great informative video Kevin, thanks 👍
Thanks your supports. Have a nice weekend
@@colonbina1 you too 👍
Yes. Plus aircraft carriers! Big opportunities for the military. Lots of options to unload, take off and land back in SpaceX facility.
Great video, Kevin.
Great comment, my loyalty audience 😂
In the words of Robert F Kennedy... "Some men see things as they are and ask, ""Why?"" I dream things that never were and ask, ""Why not?"" . The Why Not crew makes stuff happen. Like reusing rocket stages that have been sent up before, cutting costs.
SpaceX is the true space flight innovators
1. Great video!
I have a question Kevin, anyone with an answer please pipe in too, Why don’t they bury the tank farm? Wouldn’t it help regulate the temperature better by allowing it to be underground? It would seem it would also protect the tanks from an accident on the surface.
ill assume because of the high water table. also would be difficult to secure the tanks underground. there is a tremendous amount of pressure and boyancy with buried tanks trying to burst out of the earth.
@@michaelotoole1807 Correct, plus you can't see leaks under ground.
Hmmm it has no landing legs…..
I think they are preparing in case the catch arms solution does not work.
anding legs will be required for every Ship goig to the moon, Mars and for transportation on earth, so it is a vital component.
Get er flying, I’ll ride it to Australia.
If the drone ship function is only for landing, the tower does not need to be as high as for launch.
After landing, booster or Starship could be transferred to a shuttle drone ship that returns to launch site. Thus the number of landing drones is reduced with a larger # of drone shuttles, for returns.
Also, does the landing droneship need to be limited to a single landing tower?
He sure puts NASA to shame lol
I love the 2 Towers ❤
When landing most of the weight is in the engines. Land on elevated ring on shocks with automatic side paddle clamps. The engine ring should be way solid enough to take the load of an empty. booster.
Grabbing the booster/ship from mid air allows for some wiggle room (maybe meter or two).
Altho if the ring could be moved around a bit then that might work as well.
Yeah I see a problem with starship and drone ships, it's quite heavy and needs a strongback to be shipped of to launch again because the drone ship can not hold new fuel, so a whole going back to the drawingtable is needed.
1, looking forward to these SpaceX activities.
Perhaps building a tower at Woomera where the old rocket programs used to happen.....
Think about investing in Australia. Getting products shipped to and from there would be cheap and very fast.
Good thought. I wonder about 100 tons of cargo via space versus ocean going cargo ships.
We know it's 45 minutes vs 30 days shipping time. But the actual cost?
FAA will thats Failed for the other Blue Origin. Space X is too powerful. They scared from Space X .
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Space X is # 1
And still leads the way
It defeats quick reuse of super heavy
What if they had a deep concrete canal that came right into starbase from the sea where dockside cranes could grab anything off the landing bardges. Might not be easy, but is anything ???
I've always thought that SpaceX was going to need to put landing legs on their Starship and booster in order to accommodate landings on Mars and the moon as well as drone ships. It's about time somebody started talking about this. Thank you!!
its a Fin Cartoon loon ? or is it Just me.
Elon has made it clear. Landing legs weigh too much. The resulting reduction in payload/fuel capacity is unacceptable. Elon stated the MONUMENTAL cost and effort invested in " Stage Zero" may be greater than the actual crafts! For Earth landings, it will be "legless" regardless of location. Making Starship human rated? That's a long conversation. Unless a separate manned non-combustable capsule is incorporated, each launch will need a 2nd tower to catch the escaping Upper stage in the event of a platform launch failure.
Gonna need bigger drone ships.
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Yes, boy that is very exciting method you proposing, exciting in many ways. 🎉🎉🎉
I suspect that SpaceX are just keeping their options open with this filing about drone ships. SpaceX could build a new drone ship and have it ready long before the FAA can make a decision. So may as well get the FAA to review all the options as early as possible.
No. They have permission for x5 flights a year out of Texas, they hope for x25, which they may not be given. Given they do get permission that is x 50 huge sonic booms per annum blighting Boca Chica, Padre Island and Brownsville. I doubt they'll ever get permissions for that.
Boca Chica was a lousy choice for Starbase.
So the thumbnail used for this image shows massive landing legs, the title landing leg revealed where in this video did you discuss this or use this image again or is this just a misleading title?
Landing on a drone ship in rough waters (i.e., a pitching deck) could be challenging. Even if a rough water landing is successful, will the drone recovery ship be stable enough to keep its tall, top -heavy load from capsizing the drone ship?
It's less top heavy than Falcon actually.
very nice alternative. yeah!!!
Dam heat shield would mess around with legs on outside, would need to put tiles on those too if your landing on earth. The small legs lack a lot of stability.
Need 2 pinpoint leg landings & to try save hardware off shore, that's good data to do it live😮
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They're going to need a much bigger drone ship. Probably outfitted like a catamaran or trimaran with several gyro stabilizers.
You would use a semi-submerged oil rig type vessel it would have to be pretty much purpose built for SpaceX. Big vessel and big money.
Wow This is big , what's next ?
The Drone Ship option should be considered. Musk should have two approaches.
if they planning to land starship and booster out at sea everywhere around the planet, then I hope they're careful in avoiding areas high in piracy and such.
On the other hand, if Elan can provide jobs, perhaps the piracy will disappear? Many places are looked at as if they are only problem places, instead of opportunities, but lack of stable government is a big risk, large project, I love to see an backup supply route using high speed trains, to avoid red sea. and not having to sail around Africa.
I think its high time we started thanked about stabilizing the world, instead of creating conflicts.
Doing a few landings on a ship is smart. They need at least a couple landings on a platform target with plenty of cameras to gather real time data to see if they can “catch” it with robotic arms tomorrow.
Australia will welcome space x with open arms.
Starship needs legs to land on mars
Have been wondering why no one's mentioned this earlier
Thanks Kevin for the News
My honor, thanks
all of thee above and then some more... if Starship where to deploy the midsection completely as I stated in earlier comments on this site... the reassembled nose and aft power sections brought together with the telescoping spars that run the full length of the ship make re entry much easier... ie only the nose and aft section need heat shield all fuel except that needed for landing is deployed with the midsection thereby maximizing the cargo and infrastructure deployed and reducing the mass for the tower catch...
Don't need LEGS or towers for the drone ship LANDING. A simple circle of 4 to 6 "braces", placed radially around the landing point on the drone ship, that swing UPWARDS from the deck, bracing it vertically as it lands.--- Like THIS /[]\ It would work on LAND too on a similar equipped landing site. --- Remember, I thought of this ;)
You will be forever remembered the clown with a GREAT idea
I agree with SpaceX now thinking of landing the StarShip booster offshore. It keeps the launch stand safe from destruction due to a Starship and booster RUD. They also should bring it back to the Gulf of Mexico to bring it back into the StarShip base. They should get permission to dredge out a pass to float the barge close to the facility.
Great ideas!!!!
Build the mechazilla in the ocean. Just high enough above that a drone ship can fit under to pick starship up.
Old and tired information repeated over and over from one post to the next. Along with excessive blather.
Thanks so much. 👍
Thanks for your great support 👍
I think in the future it would be a good idea to move the Tank farm or the Landing tower.
Will it be a catch tower on a drone ship , there for no change legs needed ?
This is a great idea. To be able to Move the landing “X Marks the Spot”
The earth to earth plan is also a key development for the US Space Force and rapid response capabilities to anywhere in the world.
Fascinating. It might be a medium term solution, because long term they do want fast turnarounds with starship and super heavy. Block 1 starship actually didn't have enough for spare mass to put cargo into orbit until raptor 3, and block 2 starship is when it actually has the capacity to carry the proposed 100 tons to LEO. Until the cadence gets up high enough for RTLS vs drone ship is the main issue time wise, it totally makes sense. Didn't think about this, cool video!
Not cool. Just a setep backwards.
@@rogerphelps9939 If the goal is to start generating profit from starship and super heavy, it might make sense to land SH in the ocean. Not sure. The FAA document in the video covered a large breadth of possibilities from full RTLS to full expendable. It's interesting.
With segmented active landing table it could be possible to land without catch mechanism, helping reducing velocity to 0 on touch
TY Kevin :)
I was thinking a landing plat that has damping might have been better, the wight of the buster and rocket is huge,
so even at slow speeds their huge forces hitting the ground. these forces can easily break the fuel tanks. having damping is therefore something that should be considered.
lading arms requires high amount of pression. I agree dragging around landing legs sucks. But is it realistic.
SpaceX needs to turn around these boosters quickly . If they catch the booster ,how long before the next launch ?
Why am I getting new video notifications for 2 & 5 day old videos?
It makes sense to land on a drone ship instead of trying to catch it with mecazilla
Yes, but landing legs are still big problem for such a heavy Starship
@colonbina1 this is space X we're talking about nothing is impossible.
But tthey deliberately did away witth the landing legs.
I see tank farms going to scale and modular, alot of stage 1 to launch and land POINT TO POINT
As long as we don’t get the FAA in Australia.
We already do. It’s called CASA
If US citizens conduct operations they require an FAA license anywhere on Earth.
@@brianw612 so the FAA would walk over local Sovereign safety authorities? I don’t think so.
I would have to modify your phrase "Starship's potential is astronomical" to say it's "astronautical".
You’re using the same thumbnail pic Tech map used to cover this a couple of weeks ago. Between in-house repetition, and competitor.? sites, these stories start to sound familiar. The price we pay for current space news
Can they cover the tank farm in dirt to protect it from an accident during landings?
I dont doubt in time when the technology is in place, Starship wont require drone ship or a tower for launch and landing. Stacking would require a tower but reduced complexity... Landing legs like Falcon 9 would reduce infratructure significantly
Nothing was said that we don't already know...
I'd love to see StarShip with BOTH Mechazilla and Leg Landing at sea and on land.
I find Great Spacex to be the least accurate "Spacex" channel.
Why not find a sand bar or shallow to build a platform on so you can add the arms to catch
drone ship landing for starship maybe but i think booster is just too big to ever land and be transported safely on the ocean. the drone ship would have to be massive like 5x the size of falcon 9 drone ship
couldn't you just put a nice pole with suspension for a landing gear that has a foot... that foot being metal... that an electromagnet in the landing pad could keep in place when triggered..as to not cause issues with the actual landing procedure before touchdown... an electromagnet landing leg grabbing mechanism. that could hold it in place until the crew secures it for transit. as a side note, these electro magnets could also help the landing craft to center itself in the landing pad (in those last few seconds before touchdown), as long as all the magnets work at the same time.. may even need to add a means for the circle of them to move.. in case the landing craft is off center too far.... will need a tracking system to keep the ring of magnets in position / relation wise to the landing craft. peace. hmm curious if there would be a way to use the magnets to move the boosters and such, while they are still on the pad? would this mean that the landing gear would need wheels integrated? or be shaped/designed(material wise) in such a way as to slide on the pad without damaging the feet?
LOR The Two Towers! The Return Of The King!
É realmente terá que ter uma espécie de mini saia, quero dizer quatro asas no final do mega booster fixa para fazer um pouso em cima igual daqueles foguetes do Pernalonga
I don't see how the drone ship can survive the force of the rocket engines blasting it as the rocket lands. Seems like the forces involved are exponentially higher than a normal falcon landing.
It is made to account for those forces.
The booster won't be carrying a full fuel load, so probably > 95% lighter that at launch. Landing an empty booster would only require a small fraction of the number of engines required at launch, and therefore not the destructive power launching a full booster and starship.
Need a bigger drone ship
@everettwalker9141
I think a used supertanker.
this sounds like its not going to go well , have to wait and see sure hope its a success