Yea I agree. They did do 7-9 legendary tho, that’s kinda wild. The 8 ball is so dumb, just play the song. It’d be more shocking to say nothing and just play something rare.
This comment won’t really matter to anyone but I remember this some from my freshman year of college. Limewire was still a thing (yes i’m getting old haha) but at the beginning of the year some people didn’t have their libraries on private and you could listen to other dorm mates playlists . Anyway I remember waking up from a nap hearing this song (especially the Pete screaming part) and falling back asleep. It wasn’t on my playlist so I never really knew what the name of this song was. Here 15 years later I finally googled “so which is it” and that’s why I’m here riding the nostalgia train and wishing for a simpler time. Hope you all stay well.
So, a friend of mine in school got this song from Limwire and he kept calling it Joe the Janitor. I think I finally solved the nostalgic puzzle. I'm right here with you!
I have been looking for this song for nearly a decade and I finally found it! Back in the limewire days, this song was listed as "7 Minutes In Heaven" and that lead me on a wild goose chase bc I couldnt remember much of the lyrics years later lol. I truly thought I was living my own personal Mandela Effect for a while
Omg same, I wondered for like 15 years why the actual "7 years in heaven" doesn't sound like I remember it AT ALL until I somehow stumbled upon this just now
When me and my best friend were in high school we worked at the concession stand during Friday night football games and when we would make nachos for people we would always yell “SO WE CHEESE IT WE CHEESE IT” while pumping the cheese on the chips, good times lol. To this day still one of my fav songs from my all time favorite band
i’ve been into fall out boy for twenty years but been really into this specific song for a couple months now…. i don’t think of this song without thinking of this comment. this comment and this song are basically synonymous for me now. thank you for sharing, i love this memory so much :)
totororo they talk about the process in a bunch of videos titled "FOB [tttyg song name] explained" where they say Pete would give Patrick a bunch of words and tell him to put those words together somehow, it was more split
Why do I feel such a vibe that I got when I discovered The Carpal Tunnel of Love 5 years ago? Like I already know almost every single Fall Out Boy song, feature, and cover but listening to this makes me feel like I JUST discovered Fall Out Boy...what a hidden gem.
"I'm sick of writing songs for you to slit your wrists to" Interpretation here: FOB always rejected the emo label they had. Maybe here they're saying, "this is the music we wanna write, but we're not catering to wannabe emo followers". Maybe? Overall the song feels like it's about the busy famous life of a band, which is great but can be really straining. The media's all over you now, you have to cater to an audience to make money, drama is everywhere, band members get inequal limelight, etc. Either way, awesome hidden gem.
I read into it like that or that they don’t like that their lyrics that have deep meaning to them are blow off as emo so people don’t appreciate their real value
"Band members get inequal limelight" I was just talking to some friends about this, the question of 'why was Pete always so much more popular than Patrick, Joe, or Andy', always seeing it as unfair towards those 3. But after reading some old interviews, I realized it was probably more like a sacrifice Pete was willing to make. Patrick (and Andy) were apparently PAINFULLY shy, so Pete made sure to take the brunt of the crazy fame that usually the lead singer of a band has to take. Not to mention he was the oldest (during Dance Dance era Pete was 25, Andy 23/4, and Pat/Joe were 21) so he also probably felt protective of them in a way. I think we all wish Andy had gotten more attention for his INSANE drumming skills, Joe would've gotten more love for his INCREDIBLE guitar & fun personality, and that Patrick had gotten more praise for his multitalented genius EVERYTHING. But thats likely not what _they_ wanted at all. And thanks to Pete, none of them had to experience that level of nonstop attention at all. So shoutout to Pete, thank you & sorry you had to take it all for the team 🖤🍻
idk, i think it might also about pete went's girlfriend he was in a toxic relationship with, she used to cut herself to get his atention, idk but its def worth looking into.
I think Patrick actually wrote this bc of the lyrics "hand over my heart, gun to my head. I swear to god I'm through with this. I'm the worst liar I know. It's not gossip if it's the truth." I know that Pete wasn't suicidal during this time period, and that Patrick was the one who was depressed. I remember reading something he posted to his official tumblr talking about how he had planned to end it all before he was 18.
Super old post, I know, but I actually don't think this is true. This was a track that was cut from FUTCT, somewhere in the latter half of 2004. FUTCT is when they switched to the writing process where Pete did lyrics and Patrick did musical composition. This was also the time period leading up to Pete's suicide attempt, so the lyrics would make sense as his, and besides, Patrick was twenty at this point, not eighteen.
I think the chorus "so which is it, the boy who writes the songs or the boy who's in them" is interesting. Both of those lyrics could apply to either one of them. You'd initially think "the boy who's in them" refers to Pete, but later on in the song the line is "I'm sick of writing songs..." Assuming Pete wrote that line, the boy in the songs actually doesn't refer to Pete and one could assume it refers to Patrick. This could go both ways or just be a general statement, though.
Patrick did write for Girlfriend and TTTYG though, so maybe if it's older it was one of Patrick's writings. One viewpoint I find interesting is that "the boy who writes the songs" is pete, the depressed genius writer and "the boy who's in the songs" is the pete that could get any girl he wants, the pete we see in the songs.
someone uploaded this track on spotify as a podcast, THANKKKK you (:! ii loooove this song so much im really the writer or im someone else's fiction !? so fascinating ! (:
I was wondering why I could not find this one on Spotify. I always thought it was an official release. I've had this downloaded since ~2008 and the ending is slightly different. Interesting
@@danielmatthews7756 There was a longer ambience and a little guitar twang in the background. A while back there was a recording that included it, but it got taken down. The fact I can't find a similar recording makes me a bit upset hearing this one without the full ending.
In this world, is the destiny of mankind controlled by some trancidental entity or law? Is it like the hand of God, hovering above us. At least it is true, that man has no control, even over his own will...
8 ball this, 8 ball that... if fall out boy REALLY wants to shock us, really get the crowd riled up... they'd whip out this one. (I would explode)
Fuckin real 🤘
still listening in 2024 !!
Yea I agree. They did do 7-9 legendary tho, that’s kinda wild. The 8 ball is so dumb, just play the song. It’d be more shocking to say nothing and just play something rare.
Patrick probably forgot about it HFHFHFHFHHF
austin, we have a problem. 8 ball. i need it now.
This comment won’t really matter to anyone but I remember this some from my freshman year of college. Limewire was still a thing (yes i’m getting old haha) but at the beginning of the year some people didn’t have their libraries on private and you could listen to other dorm mates playlists . Anyway I remember waking up from a nap hearing this song (especially the Pete screaming part) and falling back asleep. It wasn’t on my playlist so I never really knew what the name of this song was. Here 15 years later I finally googled “so which is it” and that’s why I’m here riding the nostalgia train and wishing for a simpler time. Hope you all stay well.
this is the best comment ive ever read on youtube can we get this shit to a milly likes or what
So, a friend of mine in school got this song from Limwire and he kept calling it Joe the Janitor. I think I finally solved the nostalgic puzzle. I'm right here with you!
@TheJudgiesPodcast
Nice
We’re all wishing the same.
dude thanks for uploading this 11 years ago
if anyone else is still bumpin this in 2023 just know i love you
‘24
for some reason i say "which is it , which is it" every day for 15 + years....song is always stuck in my head
I have been looking for this song for nearly a decade and I finally found it! Back in the limewire days, this song was listed as "7 Minutes In Heaven" and that lead me on a wild goose chase bc I couldnt remember much of the lyrics years later lol. I truly thought I was living my own personal Mandela Effect for a while
Lol I think I had the same download. Remembering what it was felt like a fever dream to find.
@@SamanthaEatsCookies Yooo this makes me feel much less alone in my insanity with this song lol.
Same to me, i had to listen every b side and demos just to find this song
@@victortoledoluna5185 Thats exactly how I found this song. It was driving me nuts for so long lol
Omg same, I wondered for like 15 years why the actual "7 years in heaven" doesn't sound like I remember it AT ALL until I somehow stumbled upon this just now
When me and my best friend were in high school we worked at the concession stand during Friday night football games and when we would make nachos for people we would always yell “SO WE CHEESE IT WE CHEESE IT” while pumping the cheese on the chips, good times lol. To this day still one of my fav songs from my all time favorite band
This is my favorite “I was a fall out boy fan in high school” story
@@thesaintkimo haha nice. They’ve been my fav band since ‘05. The concession stand job would’ve been fall of ‘09 & ‘10
i’ve been into fall out boy for twenty years but been really into this specific song for a couple months now…. i don’t think of this song without thinking of this comment. this comment and this song are basically synonymous for me now. thank you for sharing, i love this memory so much :)
the lyrics in tttyg were so angry and filled with hate, I'm so happy Pete's better now.
Actually, Patrick wrote the lyrics for tttyg. He used to be really depressed as a teenager.
totororo they talk about the process in a bunch of videos titled "FOB [tttyg song name] explained" where they say Pete would give Patrick a bunch of words and tell him to put those words together somehow, it was more split
By the wayThis was cut off from under the cork tree
Why do I feel such a vibe that I got when I discovered The Carpal Tunnel of Love 5 years ago? Like I already know almost every single Fall Out Boy song, feature, and cover but listening to this makes me feel like I JUST discovered Fall Out Boy...what a hidden gem.
IK SOMEONE ELSE FELT THAT FEELING YK WHAT I MEAN OMGGGG
my history with Fall out boy is exactly this comment
In quarantine this song has now turned into "this bedroom feels more like a tomb."
Awesome Islanders Hockey Videos you bet
epic that youre still listening to this after like two years
I think it's time that this gets an EP.
I’d love to see that
I agree
Yes
i am way too obsessed with fetus FOB
"I'm sick of writing songs for you to slit your wrists to"
Interpretation here: FOB always rejected the emo label they had. Maybe here they're saying, "this is the music we wanna write, but we're not catering to wannabe emo followers". Maybe? Overall the song feels like it's about the busy famous life of a band, which is great but can be really straining. The media's all over you now, you have to cater to an audience to make money, drama is everywhere, band members get inequal limelight, etc.
Either way, awesome hidden gem.
Jaimie Y. Yeah. The "emo" label has been looked down upon by both Brendon Urie and the members of Fall Out Boy
I read into it like that or that they don’t like that their lyrics that have deep meaning to them are blow off as emo so people don’t appreciate their real value
"Band members get inequal limelight" I was just talking to some friends about this, the question of 'why was Pete always so much more popular than Patrick, Joe, or Andy', always seeing it as unfair towards those 3.
But after reading some old interviews, I realized it was probably more like a sacrifice Pete was willing to make.
Patrick (and Andy) were apparently PAINFULLY shy, so Pete made sure to take the brunt of the crazy fame that usually the lead singer of a band has to take. Not to mention he was the oldest (during Dance Dance era Pete was 25, Andy 23/4, and Pat/Joe were 21) so he also probably felt protective of them in a way.
I think we all wish Andy had gotten more attention for his INSANE drumming skills, Joe would've gotten more love for his INCREDIBLE guitar & fun personality, and that Patrick had gotten more praise for his multitalented genius EVERYTHING. But thats likely not what _they_ wanted at all. And thanks to Pete, none of them had to experience that level of nonstop attention at all.
So shoutout to Pete, thank you & sorry you had to take it all for the team 🖤🍻
idk, i think it might also about pete went's girlfriend he was in a toxic relationship with, she used to cut herself to get his atention, idk but its def worth looking into.
why isn't this an official track i need more of this
2:11 HOLY FUCK PATRICK
Holy crap I need that on repeat until I drop dead
Gangabamba lol
I think Patrick actually wrote this bc of the lyrics "hand over my heart, gun to my head. I swear to god I'm through with this. I'm the worst liar I know. It's not gossip if it's the truth." I know that Pete wasn't suicidal during this time period, and that Patrick was the one who was depressed. I remember reading something he posted to his official tumblr talking about how he had planned to end it all before he was 18.
And take note that he was 17-18 around this time
Omg that's so sad. Im so glad he didn't, awwwwww. I feel sad
Super old post, I know, but I actually don't think this is true. This was a track that was cut from FUTCT, somewhere in the latter half of 2004. FUTCT is when they switched to the writing process where Pete did lyrics and Patrick did musical composition. This was also the time period leading up to Pete's suicide attempt, so the lyrics would make sense as his, and besides, Patrick was twenty at this point, not eighteen.
Rivers Coleman really?
oof I'm crying
Randomly had this song pop into my head just now and couldn’t remember the name. Thankfully, I found it!
FREAKIN LOVE THIS SONG. It needed to be released!!!
Chana R Me too
to know that I've been a fan for about 3 years and I am barely discovering this now makes me feel as if there's always something to look forward to
Still to this day the way Patrick let's the word fiction leave his mouth GETS MEEEE lol
I always thought it was "which is it? The boy who writes the songs, or the boy who SINGS them?" As we all know Pete writes and Patrick sings.
sounds nothing like that bro
It’s why this song is so underrated because it’s them too the core
One of my fav FOB songs, this band is the reason I'm still alive!
I have loved fall out boy for around 10 years now and i am just finding this song now
I think the chorus "so which is it, the boy who writes the songs or the boy who's in them" is interesting. Both of those lyrics could apply to either one of them. You'd initially think "the boy who's in them" refers to Pete, but later on in the song the line is "I'm sick of writing songs..." Assuming Pete wrote that line, the boy in the songs actually doesn't refer to Pete and one could assume it refers to Patrick. This could go both ways or just be a general statement, though.
Patrick did write for Girlfriend and TTTYG though, so maybe if it's older it was one of Patrick's writings. One viewpoint I find interesting is that "the boy who writes the songs" is pete, the depressed genius writer and "the boy who's in the songs" is the pete that could get any girl he wants, the pete we see in the songs.
so I got a bootleg copy of from under the cork tree and this was on there....so I went months thinking this was an official release
Will Harper i Wish it was an official release
me and my best friend used to sing this song at the top of our lungs on the bus 😭 we still know every word (this was in 2019)
someone uploaded this track on spotify as a podcast, THANKKKK you (:!
ii loooove this song so much im really the writer or im someone else's fiction !? so fascinating ! (:
This is the only lyric video I've ever watched that was actually timed properly so good job
Can't believe I've only found this song now and not at the peak of my Fall Out Boy obsession... Still though, I appreciate the hell out of this
same
they need to release these officially NOW !!
I’m here without a story just going around internet, damm wish I found this sooner some awesome stuff!!
Pete I swear to god
I wish I could buy this because it's so goooood. Why didn't thye release this uhhh. But it is so sad
Me too and I like your profile pic
holy crap 2:11 gTG
+{ sam } IKR GOD DAMN
i read this before i heard it and i was expecting belting or something but it waS SO MUCH BETTER THAN I HAD ANTICIPATED
(Pete Wentz screaming in the distance)
Hope this gets brought back with clean vocals.
everyone says Sugar We're Goin Down is their gayest song when it's actually this
All of their songs are gay if you’re brave enough
I was wondering why I could not find this one on Spotify. I always thought it was an official release. I've had this downloaded since ~2008 and the ending is slightly different. Interesting
woah what's different on your version?
one of my fav songs ever
2:11 ah~
I found this song on Limewire in middle school, good times lol
Same
God this is so nostalgic, glad i finally remembered the name.
2:10 The way he ends saying Fiction is just like really sexy *-*
xXUnicornVenomXx ikr
Still amazing in 2020
We’ve never been closer to getting studio versions of these demos than now 😂
I think the lyric is this hotel room, not just this hotel :D
This should’ve been released
Oh whoa ive never heard this sick
Damn. I haven’t heard this song in years 😩❤️🥺
Hold up. A fall out boy song I have not heard before?
Just dropping in
1 word... WOW!
""Hand over my heart, gun to my head; I swear to god I'm through with this" is still so damn relatable.
Why i cant find this song in spotify?
because it’s not on spotify
it was never officially released, it's a leaked demo
nice
Hand of God 8ball at 2ourdust MSG??? Hand of God 8ball queen???
Was searching for Diego Maradona, got into FOB cuz TH-cam search bar, listened to this banger but wasn't disappointed
Been a fall out boy fan since 2006 and didn't know a few of these 😭 I'm so ashamed
This is a great video!
Ugh. Gorgeous fucking lyrics. Kill me.
I want to buy this song on every platform and format it’s released on
Calm down pete
+Supermerdog i cant hear this song without thinking this anymore
My thoughts exactly
this song means so so much to me and call it whatever but it got me through such a shit time and just ajsgqjds this is my favourite ever
Holla this is a great song
Amen.
I think the lyric is “hotel room”
Buddy this thing is 12 years old, they're not fixing it
@@SydneyWade-gh9nd I know, I’m just putting it out there buddy
Wtf I feel like I've heard this before 0:14.
rlly like the voice crack in the bit at rhe end woah
why do i know this song? why did i believe this was officially released? and how do i know the lyrics despite being unreleased????
Is this a hidden song or something someone please explain
The real ones know about this. 2021?
They cut out the ending. Darn.
Mad Lad what was the ending
@@danielmatthews7756 There was a longer ambience and a little guitar twang in the background. A while back there was a recording that included it, but it got taken down. The fact I can't find a similar recording makes me a bit upset hearing this one without the full ending.
POV: you're watching this in 2021
What is this from?! Is it a hidden track or what??
adrianna roberts I’m pretty sure this A demo from 2004
What albums this off
jonnylen2008It was originally on futct
what is Fall out boys first song?
it's not a song but listen to Evening Out With Your Girlfriend... it was their first record...
Yoshino- Chan Probably Honorable Mention I'm guessing
Yoshino- Chan I recommend checking out Project Rocket. It was their first EP
real late here but in june 2001 they released 2 songs called "ode to the hourglass" and "from plastic to skin"
In this world, is the destiny of mankind controlled by some trancidental entity or law? Is it like the hand of God, hovering above us. At least it is true, that man has no control, even over his own will...
When was this song made
Daniel Matthews 2004
Why am I just hearing this now? What the fuck?
Patrick sounds sm like Brendon Urie on the beginning
love i t i like
okay hear me out on austin we have a problem 8ball plz.
I thought pete writes the songs
Rion Abrams Pete does write the songs but Patrick used to but I’m pretty sure Pete wrote this
@@kellywayman4303 I know this is really old but the lyrics seem very Patrick to me, and according to a comment this is a demo from 2004
There's only one 'Like' and I swear to God it's fucking mine! :)
2019??
Stephanie Maclean Yup
2004.
suh will
hotel room*
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