I think language school in Japan can be very hit or miss. I went for ISI and had a good experience. The think I didn't like that it seems yours did was that there wasn't as much of a focus on speaking. I also worked while I was going to school, so that was a pretty big disadvantage when you compare the amount of time I was able to put in to studying and homework compared to the other students. I think it is important for you to share the name of your school so it will be helpful to others as they try to make there decisoin.
As a fellow ADHDer, and someone who is hoping to start at a Japanese LS in '26, this video was invaluable. Thank you so much for sharing your experience, I'll watch your previous videos with great interest. Like you, I struggle with perfectionism due to the ADHD. One simple method I find that helps is the motto "Don't let perfect get in the way of good." I have it written on a A4 piece of bright green card stuck to the wall above my study desk. It helps whenever I feel frustrated about lack of progress, getting something wrong or if my ADHD internal monologue starts critiscing me for not being "the best". Right next to it is another sign "Comparison is the thief of joy", that helps too. Especially, when the monologue starts to do the whole " That person is better than you at " routine. Hope this helps in someway. Best of luck with the rest of your time at LS, I'm looking forward to an update video in the future.
Dealing with perfectionism is not easy. I also worked my way to burning out at the end of 2022 / beginning 2023, and now I also see the signs when it's coming again. Perfectionism, at least for me, comes from the desire to be better as everyone else. But comparing is the end of every happy feeling. The thing is, we, as japanese lerners, ARE getting better and better in the language. Maybe it doesnt feel like it, because after we have mastered around N4 or N3, we suddenly have the feeling that we are not progressing. But if you think about it, beeing able to speak and read a little bit of a language shorty after you have started learning it feels great, but at some point we have the feeling that nothing moves forward. This is not true. Like blowing a balloon, in the first blow the balloon gets quite big, but the last blows feel like it is not getting bigger anymore. My way of thinking right now is: "I will be better as everyone else, but in my own pace. Not today and maybe not tomorrow. But as I work in my own pace, which gives me the opportunity not to burn out and enjoy learning, I will be better than anyone else. It's a marathon." Wishing you very nice and fruitful 3 Months in Japan! Kind greetings from your former study colleague Richard!
It seems like, although, everyone is an adult in Japanese school, many of who already finished their uni, and have jobs and responsibilities, teachers treat you like school kids. I hated it as a student, but I cannot imagine, now, as a 26-year-old, someone shouting/scolding or even raising their voice at me. Feels quite disrespectful, to be honest. Stay strong 💪ft
I was in my late 30s when I went. I was also working at a Japanese company at the time. It's not uncommon to here shouting in the work environment it seems.
It is good to hear that you are continuing your studies. I know that probably teacher was worried and it was not the best decision to talk about missing persons to the class who were participating to the classes. But glad to hear that talking to the teacher solved problems. I know that sometimes some courses might have minimum required attendees and If the amount is lower it might mean that the course is cancelled. This is my quess and there might be other things or reasons.
I had a bad experience at Japanese language school when they put me in a class with all Chinese speakers except me. And we're talking a big class. We did group work every class and they just spoke Chinese the whole time and ignored me during the group work. The teacher didn't speak Chinese so the class work was fine (she just spoke Japanese - although from time to time she would write a kanji on the board to "explain" something). It didn't bother me so much that they spoke Chinese during the breaks etc but during the group work was where I drew the line. I stopped going to class as a result and finally my teacher emailed me to ask why so I explained why and they switched me to another class with students from mixed backgrounds. The new class didn't speak much English either but at least they didn't exclude me. I would have been totally all for making friends using Japanese even outside class but I could tell none of them were quite that motivated to use Japanese. However it was a lot better and I didn't miss another class. The lesson being that you need to speak up and complain if things aren't going well. Sometimes (sometimes being the key) there are things they can do to fix it. I forget how long I studied there but it wasn't too long maybe 2 months. I chose to just self study after and save money. A big reason for going to the school for me was to make friends and that wasn't happening. If I could do it again I'm not sure what I would do. I think I made similar progress self studying full time in Japan but it was really lonely. I have to say that my experience with the Chinese class disillusioned me about a lot of Chinese people learning Japanese. It was a JLPT N2 class but none of them could speak Japanese. That doesn't mean they couldn't pass the JLPT though. I think they just cheated in that they could infer the meaning of the Japanese based on the Chinese characters. I figured that was a thing but I also thought it would lead them to learning to speak Japanese pretty easily too but apparently not. Some of them learn to speak really well but I think they're the exception now. Most Chinese people just learn to read Japanese. As you can imagine certain schools cater to different ethnic groups and you can definitely go to a school with a lot of westerners where almost all the students can speak English. I did go to one of those schools for a 3 week vacation and enjoyed it but it was more expensive and also most westerners don't reach an N2 level never mind N1. Anyway, I can absolutely see westerners just speaking English to each other and excluding the non-English speakers in group work also. It's just the way it is - if they can't speak Japanese or English what else can they do. I guess I was just taken aback because N2 is a rather advanced class and I thought people should be able to have a conversation by N3 for sure.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I actually have a class that mostly speaks Japanese, except for 2 Chinese people, but we always try to speak Japanese to them to include them in the group work. But I know what you mean - your first experience sounds similar to the one "Hello Zuzu" posted on her channel.
@@Seriinudesu I watched her video. She stuck with her school for six months! I'm so impressed by her fortitude lol. Her line in the sand was different than mine but I think it was a similar experience. We both felt excluded and unwelcome.
I had a similar situation, but I spoke Chinese, so I was able to make friends with the students in my class. It can be a bit frustrating seeing how fast the Chinese speakers are able to pass JLPT at N2 when speaking wise they might not be as good as you, but really that shouldn't make a difference to your own personal goals. Being an English speaker, you get an advantage with a lot of modern katakana words that they don't.
@ The katakana is a small consolation 😂. I got along well my teachers. They were quick to point out the katakana words were used more than many of the Chinese borrowed words to the class too. If the class didn’t do group work and we just spent the whole lesson working as a class I would have been happy with the all Chinese class. I thought it was fascinating seeing how their experience learning Japanese and living in Japan differed from mine.
I cannot imagine continuing in a setting which has made me beat myself up about stuff. The fact that you decided to finish your studies means you have some fight left in you. As you said, don't try to aim for perfection. Just try your best and don't put pressure on yourself too much. If you feel like you learned more than you did prior to language school, thats the biggest accomplishment 💪🏻 頑張ってください!! Also thanks for the reply on your previous video ❤️ and for being transparent about your experience.
I'm so sorry you are having a bad experience. I currently am also studying in Japan and it hasn't been easy for me neither. Ein Unglück kommt selten allein. Or however the saying goes. So much respect for you! I'll be rooting for you :D
Hii, I was your plane neighbor lol Sorry to hear about your experience, seems like you were a bit unlucky; I feel like the language schools generally have a reputation whether they are very ’serious’ or relaxed , I chose the relaxed one haha but still had my struggles w communicating my needs & so on. Glad you were able to somewhat figure things out!!! Good luck:)
I can really understand your struggle, because i feel like we are quite similar in that way. I tend to put a lot on my plate because there are many things I want to do, but I also want to do really well in all of them. This perfectionist mindset is usually hurting me more than it is actually helping achieve my goals and I get really anxious and stressed. (I also suspect i have undiagnosed ADHD which is definitely not helping either😅) I'm glad to hear you tried to figure out a way to take off some of that pressure to look after yourself. I hope you can feel a bit more relaxed during your remaining time at school! I think you can be really proud of yourself for getting this far. the journey to getting to language school and everything surrounding it is still a great achievement and it sounds like you learned a lot through it already, so if you keep going at your own pace, i'm sure you will reach your goals, even if it's not directly through studying at school. I hope you are doing well!!
Thank you for the nice comment 🥹 Yes! I'll try to make the best out of the time I have left at school and I rested a lot during winter vacation 😊 Wishing you all the best with fighting your own perfectionism demons as well ⚔️
I started language school in Tokyo the same time as you in October and I've had a lot of the same experiences. One of my teachers would pick on us so much that one of my classmates filled out a complaint.
Hey ! I finally arrived in Japan... And I started language school last week. I understand your pain lol, I have 2 kanji tests everyday in my class ^^" I try to keep motivation. Some days are nice, some others are very overwhelming (like today)... If you come to Tokyo don't hesitate to tell me, I would be happy if we can meet and/or study together (studying alone everyday is very さびしい...) Force to you !
Hi, yay, you made it! ☀️ Oh, that's a lot? Which level did you get placed in? I'm sorry, that you experience overwhelm as well. I hope you'll eventually get used to it! 😊 It takes quite some time to go to Tokyo, so I'm avoiding it at the moment, sorry 😅
Thank you for this very honoust and open video. Lets hope things will get some better for you. I am older and was thinking of one day doing a language school for maybe 4 to 5 weeks. I have perfectionism as well and I have a few mental disorders. I should think good about this if this is something for me. Thanks again and I wish you all the best!
If it's just for a short time, it might be a good experience and if you don't like it, it will be over quickly as well. Good luck with your potential time in language school 🙏
Really refreshing that talking about a problem, in person, seems to work, at least it sounds like it so... *fingers crossed*. About the perfectionism what helped me was trying to change my mindset. Language itself is sometimes fuzzy and not every rule is set in stone 100% of the time. When it comes down to getting better in anything the most important thing is that I improve myself, I want to be better / more knowledgeable than my past self. Sometimes going slower, forgetting stuff and relearning things can be beneficial aswell. I mean maybe it didnt stick the first time because I was missing some other information I didn't have at that time or I did look at a question/problem the wrong way. Time helps with that. I really understand the feeling to make the best out of it since you have limited time at the language school tho.
@@Seriinudesu danke und dir auch. wenn alles gut läuft language school ab Oktober 😁 (eben noch einen Rechtschreibfehler im ursprünglichen Kommentar angepasst. aber glaube man versteht was ich sagen wollte)
I went to language school in Japan too and I understand you totally. I really felt stressed all the time, although I did Japanese language just to get the visa. Language schools have to be kind of strict, I guess, put up pressure, it´s the idea to give your best and also make sure that the students give their best. Of course, they could do it differently, but that´s Japan, with its good and best sides. Dealing with stress isn't easy, but just think of the fact that it´s only 3 months and you will learn something. After leaving Japan, I even miss language school.:-) When you are there, you don't feel it that much, because you get used to living there. Therefore: Ganbatte ne...you don't need to be the best, just do it for yourself. Everything will work out and the experience of living in Japan will prevail...
Hi Seri, I understand yiur situation. I was in your situation in 2022. Also not teachers, some administrative staff also acted aggressively. It was sooo much exhausted. So I quited. But never refund my remaining payment. But now I'm studying at Japanese University. It was totally different than LS. I'm happy my previous decision. Don't worry. Time will make your decision great.
@Seriinudesu best for 2025. I'm also like you. I always want to perfect what I'm doing. It's totally for satisfaction of myself. Not like as competitive mindset. I'm also sound sensitive person and suffered from depression. It's ok sometime to take step back and come again as stronger. You have many paths. I'm really happy what you do in YT community. I'm not a regular viewer. But cheers to you in my heart ❤️❤️❤️
It always sucks to look forward to something for so long and then have it be a disappointment in so many ways 😩 I'm glad that at least your teacher was responsive to feedback and that you found a few possible solutions to the outside-noise -- hopefully those small changes will at least make it a bit better. As a professor myself, the idea of having the classroom door open all the time sounds terrible! I would be distracted myself by all the motion and noise outside. Every time you mention it in a video, I get re-horrified by the idea 😂 I imagine it's so the director or whoever can walk around and make sure people are speaking Japanese or doing work or whatever, but I always just wonder.. do they trust their teachers that little? 😅
I'm looking for Japanese language schools in Tokyo and am dying to avoid the one you're talking about. Any chance you could please share some level of detail? Maybe general area within Tokyo?
Good people are disadvantaged by bad people. Good people are made uncomfortable. It is so unreasonable. Everyone knows you are good and hardworking. Be confident!
i was also planning on coming on a studentvisa and work 24 hrs for my company but didn't know if this will be accepted. I'm happy to see that it was possible for you. 😊 It was good that you talked to them and they seem to have taken it serious at least btw. chatgpt is also my therapist😂 i had this problem with perfectionism when i was studying (not languages but i think it's similar) when i got diagnosed with adhd i started to talk more nicely to myself. for example before that i was like: "why can't i get it, everyone get's it but me and i'm not intelligent ..." after the diagnose i started to talk to myself like this: "okay it seems that i'm struggling but it went good until now, i'll have a short break amd then retry" this did help me a lot because i took the pressure from myself i hope you'll still enjoy your time :)
No nice that you found a way that works for you with the self talk 😊 I should do that as well - I just forget sometimes 😅 Good luck with your plans on coming to Japan 🍀
Hi again Serii👋🏻 sorry to hear about your experience with the language school. It's nice to hear you managed to reach some consensus with the teacher after talking to her. I believe you'll look back on the experience and not regret continuing the language school😊 for perfectionism, I think maybe what might help is to plan and write beforehand how much you're going to study and have a doable goal from the start. Then when you reach it, just stop and do something you enjoy or rest. This might help to still feel happy about your study sessions because you reached your goal, and be able to control it so you don't start aiming for more and more due to perfectionism. What do you think? 😊
@Seriinudesu true, but that's why defining an exact goal before studying might help. Because you'll get the satisfaction of having completed your goal. Good luck either way 💪🏻🤗
This just seems insane to me... especially considering you're paying for the school. Like them tacitly threatening by saying you can't use them as a reference if you don't complete the course in its entirety. Or the part about being lectured angrily and held past the usual time, just seems ridiculous considering it's meant to be a paid service.
Just got your video recommended 😊 subscribed May I ask what do you plan to do after learning? Like what kind of job do you want to do? What's your field?
Thank you! Welcome to the channel 🤗 I just learn Japanese as a (very intense) hobby 😅 I plan on reading a lot and hopefully be able to properly speak when I visit the country one day 😁 I work in licensing 😊
I'm starting school at Arc Academy Shinjuku this week and I'm kinda worried how I'll cope with my ADHD... I took the JLPT N4 last month and would consider myself an intermediate learner, but my listening and output really sucks. Kinda shitting myself lol
I really don't know what tell you as someone who hates courses and language schools and a big belivere of "you can learn a language by your own". But I'm sorry that you and your classmates has been going through this bad experience and I hope it doesn't affect your perspective on all the japaense teachers cause I'm sure there are good ones out there!
I know what you mean, but I also think, language courses are useful in some cases, especially when starting out 😊 We also have some good ones, so I'm trying to take the positive energy from their classes with me into the other ones 😅
It might be selfish but I'm glad you're not quitting school I'm sure there will be more videos 😆. I'm not really a perfectionist but I definitely had issues being so bad at Japanese compared to native speakers but living in Japan surrounded by them. I think the best thing you can do it just talk about it with friends or family. Even making videos on TH-cam assuming your viewers are supportive and I'm guessing they are. As for learning vocabulary the best method I have found is to use it. If you've tried this already you already know forcing yourself to use even one new word per day is quite the effort and a few words even harder and I've never gone beyond say using 5 new words in a single day. I don't know if I ever even did that many. It's a good method because I think it's the best and fastest way to make a word part of your long term memory for life but it's also a huge pain in the butt and you can't use it for very many words. The other thing you can do is to keep studying kanji. They really are the building blocks and I don't see this as a short cut but if you keep studying kanji your vocabulary will keep increasing. Your real vocabulary - when you know the kanji in a word you pretty much know the word also. One thing I am trying (again) is active recall vocabulary flash cards. I'm putting a picture on side 1 and the rest of the info on side 2. In the past these made me burn out fast so that might happen again but Chat GPT insists active recall flash cards are the #1 best choice. And from what I've seen with all the other flash cards I do (reading/listening) these words never make it into my long term memory UNLESS the words are also used in real life somehow - or I learn the kanji. I don't think the Anki SRS formula (or any SRS formula) really works for me so I'm trying to make my own. My problem is that after one week I seem to always always forget the new words and if I don't give up and persist anyway (which I've only ever done when I was self studying full time in Japan for 2 years) then I can finally make this interval bigger but even then I forget these low frequency words at about 2 months. My new experimental formula is to slowly increase the interval from 1 day to one week and then keep the interval at one week for several weeks. Doing active recall. And then hopefully I will know it. Honestly I am a little skeptical that this will work but it's a hobby and I enjoy it. If I were a betting man I'd only bet on remembering words you can use. So I'd only try to learn daily conversation words and nothing else. Unless I got a job in Japan then I would focus on words I would need for my job. You probably want to prelearn words to avoid the huge amount of stress involved with learning them on the fly but I am not sure this is realistic for me or most people. Anyway, good luck. If you hit on a great method for learning vocabulary please post it.
Haha, at least you're honest 🤣 I'll definitely keep studying kanji (since it's also one of my favorite things to do, when it comes to Japanese) 😁 If I ever find a good method for remembering vocab words, I'll post it!
Sounds like you've put in an incredible amount of effort to me! I'll be honest, the teacher behaviour shouting at the class is completely unacceptable, and I would be putting in a complaint and also leaving. I think their note about immigration might also just be a way of them keeping you there, so i would be suspicious, since they are a business after all, but if you can find a way to be kind to yourself and stay there for a little longer then it sounds worth it. I hope you can rest and look after yourself and enjoy some of the experience of being in Japan. You should be incredibly proud of what you've achieved so far, but also time to give yourself some gentle treatment and be kind to yourself!
Oh noo I think I am going to the same school as you in April for one year and now I am even more nervous! I thought these schools were well vetted through GoGoNihon 😭 😭
I talked to a lot of students in the last days and their experiences differ quite a lot. If you enter at the lowest level, you should be fine. It's more in the higher level that people tend to get more upset about things 🤷🏻♀️ I hope you'll get a good class! 🍀
Personally if I were a teacher and I were upset about say half the class slacking off... I wouldn't just tell off the whole class. I just know what it's like being on the receiving end of that and thinking what am I doing wrong? Sometimes you don't even know you're not the one they're upset about per se either. Even if you do know it still is an unpleasant experience. This happens in the workplace a lot too.
28 hours a week of language school is a lot. I went for one year many years ago, and almost all the courses were 20 hours a week. Many of my classmates worked overnight shifts in restaurants and came straight to class in the morning. That must have been difficult. There was less drama in my course, but one day in the middle of class, a couple of students from Taiwan and China suddenly burst into a loud argument that almost came to punches. The next day the teacher made them come to the front of class and bow and apologize to the rest of us. At most schools in the 2000s, they took attendance every hour(!) and were required to report to immigration and if you were absent too much you would lose your student visa. It’s not about effort, but about avoiding people entering Japan on an easier-to-get student visa and then working for a better salary than they can get at home. Ganbatte.
I'll preface this with my apologies for the long text. I'm just terrible at keeping things short, even though I tried. Sorry to hear that language school wasn't such a great experience. I hope it will be better now. I was really surprised that this teacher was so nice and understanding. Not because I had another experience, but simply because it was totally opposite the screaming. I'm not sure if those were the same teacher or two seperate ones, but it's strange to think about such opposites working at the same school. Regarding perfectionism, I can share how I learned to kind of handle it. I'm a bit of an oddball though, so I'm not sure if any of those things also work for you. I mainly do two things. I try to prioritze. So basically I try to think about what I want or have to do not in the way of: I need to pour all the energy I have into it. Instead I think about the time I have to do it and how important it is. Perfectionism in itself is not a bad thing, but it has its time and place. An example would be doing the dishes vs writing a job application. Doing the dishes is (unfortunately) important, but it's okay to not do them for three hours just to make sure that its perfect. With a job application you need to put in more time and maybe go over it a day after you've written it, just to make sure there are no typos or similar things. And since they're are also important, you can't just decide not to do that. The second thing I try to do is accept that I'll not be satisfied. In my case, I'd have to pour every last bit of energy into most things I do to even have a chance of being satisfied with myself. And that is (obviously) not very healthy. Especially when learning new skills, it's just such an overwhelming task to be perfect, that I'd rather avoid learning the thing alltogether. So in allowing myself not to be satisfied/perfect, it gives me room to breathe and for messing up. And as cheesy as it sounds: Messing up results in growth.
Thank you for the long message and kind words, I really appreciate it! 😊 Haha, no it was the same teacher 😅 And we also have very kind as well as some strange teachers, so it's a big mix of characters 😅
Hi Celine~ You konw language school is not only about go to language school itself, it is something like, to pay for the premission of staying in the country. You may know many people get the visa through language school but as they landed they went somewhere else to work, without attend any single lecture, and obviously these kind of things is not allowed, and it seems also be a problem by the goverment. Maybe try to change the type of visa will be better for you~ and seems you also choosed to do it Anyway hope doing well😄
i remember when you first posted about the tips and info about applying to language school (I took your advice and now I'm in JP too) So it is sad to see how things have become for you. Hopefully with the changes will help the next few months for you.
@@Seriinudesu surely some similarities with school but the good definitely outweighs the bad so I thank you for your early videos that helped me figure out the application process and what to expect before school
Oh wow, da hast du ja echt einiges mitgemacht. Und mir kam es auch so vor als hätte sie die Visa-Karte nur gezogen, um dich an der Schule zu halten. Sieht ja auch nicht gut für sie aus, wenn Schüler aus ihre Klasse vorzeitig abbrechen. Richtig manipulatives Verhalten. Tut mir echt wahnsinnig leid, dass du diese Erfahrung machen musstest, zumal du echt viel für diesen Traum getan hast. Was den Perfektionismus angeht, kann ich das total nachvollziehen. Ich war früher auch so. Was mir aber geholfen hat war das Buch „Einen Scheiß muss ich“ von Sean Brummel. Das hatte ich mir mal vor Jahren zufällig am Flughafen gekauft, weil ich den Titel lustig fand. Ist sehr satirisch und plakativ, hat mich aber wirklich zum nachdenken über mein eigenes Verhalten gebracht in bestimmten Situationen. Und noch heute, wenn ich mal wieder zu viel auf einmal will erinnere ich mich an Passagen aus dem Buch und überdenke mein Mindset. Vielleicht hilft es dir ja auch. Allerdings habe ich kein ADHS. Also ist das bei dir vielleicht doch nochmal anders. Liebe Grüße und alles Gute weiterhin 🫶
Alles was du erzählst hört sich bekannt an. als ich mein Working hollyday Visa angetreten bin wurde ich für den ersten Monat auch in eine Sprachschule in Fukuoka gesteckt und das war genau so eine absolut nutzlose Erfahrung. Die schule hat mich in einen Kurs gesteckt der zu hoch für mich war nur weil es Zeitlich gepasst hat, die Lehrering hat schnell gemerkt das mein Japanisch nicht gut genug war also hat sich mich komplett ignoriert und auf meine Beschwerde hin wurde ich nicht ernstgenommen. Das war 1/12 meiner Zeit in Japan und ein Haufen Geld obendrauf. Ich ärgere mich heute immer noch. Ich kann Sprachschulen dort drüben NULL empfehlen
I thought about jp school like 3 years ago, but i thought it was a waste of time and money when there are so many useful free resources today like ANKI which makes vocab simple and easy.
There are a lot of free things out there, but sometimes an outside guidance can be very helpful - depending on how much experience you have with self-studying a language.
@@Seriinudesu from what I heard the beginner experience is almost always fun and easy-going, and it is in the intermediate where they get super strict and very demanding and kind of "evil" on you. some schools even emphasise and pride themselves on that stark difference in teaching modes between the beginner level (n5, n4 - "let's just sing songs") and intermediate n3 and beyond where there is this "I am going to exorcise any way i can those kanji or piece of grammar out of you" mode.
Be careful who you associate with. There are dishonest people in Japan who take advantage of foreigners who don't know the law. Since you are paying the school, the school is supposed to treat you well. I think it is very suspicious that the school teacher may be rude to you. You should be free to quit the school any time you want and perhaps find another school. I have never been to a Japanese language school, so I don't know how they work. I attended for a short time a free Japanese course run by volunteers. I thought it was very good, I had no troubles with them.
I studied Japanese on and off for 30 years. I had secret crushes on a lot of the teachers. I did manage to meet one terrible teacher and dropped the course after the first lesson. Immersion 3 hours a week was really pleasant. Not to be negative but perhaps you should study an overview of philosophy. I get a lot of mileage out of it and guided my daughter into taking such a course and abnormal psychology in addition to Japanese at college. Long story, but you won't burn out if you know these things.
Foreigners come from all over the world, with all sorts of different values, for all sorts of purposes, and with all sorts of different levels of Japanese language ability, so I think it must be hard for teachers to teach them. If teachers don't produce results, they'll be fired. If you were to be a teacher at this school, would you be confident that you could do it well enough that no one would complain? I think it's difficult to teach classes that satisfy all the students. If you want a kind teacher, you should have taken private lessons that are tailored to your level. I don't think you should have gone to a school like this.
I understand that this is hard, but it's still not a valid reason to scream at people, because it actually makes us wanna study less and produces worse results (not only my opinion) and other teachers/classes make it work with being nice to each other - so I don't see how it's not a realistic thing to wish for, especially if you pay thousands of euros 🤷🏻♀️
Oh man so stark, dass du das Gespräch gesucht hast. Sie hat dich einfach so geblendet, mit dem guten Wort einlegen bei der Immigrationsbehörde. Allein die Formulierung, regt mich schon auf. Als ob da künftig jemand als dein persönlicher Fürsprecher auftreten würde. Du bist "young professional" und wirst bei nem Langzeitaufenthalt, aus Sicht der Behörde, potentiell hohe Steuern fürs Land erwirtschaften. Du kommst aus nem wirtschaftlich starken Land, hast sicher keine Einträge im Führungszeugnis und bis du das mal in die Tat umsetzen willst, hast du sicher auch N2. Wenn du doch mal wieder abbrechen willst, dann mach das einfach. Geißel dich doch nicht mit einer Zukunft, von der eh noch völlig unklar ist, wann und ob die überhaupt kommt. :((( Zur Perfektionismusfrage: Ich find tägliche Affirmationen ganz gut, z.B. Du bist wertvoll, ohne dass du dafür etwas leisten oder tun musst." Aber das trifft vlt. noch nicht ganz genau dein Gefühl?
If i had the opportunit to go 28 hours a week to a real japanese language school i would run every day to get there and learn as much i can. I would never waste my time focusing on lamenting, dysecting teachers or anything else. I would go there, do my best to adjust myself to a foreign country, foreign culture, class mates who probably come from all over the world, teachers who are probably never ever able to satisfy everyone' special needs. Maybe just maybe you could just be a little greatful to have an opportunity to have this experience. Japanese teachers may not be "your kind "of teachers you are used to. It is called : life , and life means you need to build up people/social skills to be able to fit in, in different places, situations, environments and cultures. So, take the positives and run with it instead of focusing on every point you can find to be unhappy, unconfortable, un....
I am very grateful, and I think I made that clear in some of my other videos. I just believe in equal respect for each other and a healthy learning environment. If that's not important for you, that's fine too. I just want to give a honest opinion about how I feel, so people that value the same things as me, know what they're getting into 😊
I find it very hard to beleave that japanese teachers in a japanese school in japan are as you describe them. They are super friendly, kind, helpful, customer oriented, help with visas/ homestays and are very happy that foreigners want to learn their language. They bend their backs down to accommodate and make people feel comfortable and at home. They behave as a people in a humble way. They are welcoming students from all over the world including me and never behave as you say. They do not humiliate or abuse anyone. It is not in their DNA. I know japanese people for a long time, have been there, have taken and still take classes with all sorts of japanese teachers in all sorts of environments. I have yet to come across a teacher/ school/ person that has and does what you say. Appreciate Japan, Japanese Teachers, their Culture and their People
What do you think about the whole situation? 😅
I think language school in Japan can be very hit or miss. I went for ISI and had a good experience. The think I didn't like that it seems yours did was that there wasn't as much of a focus on speaking. I also worked while I was going to school, so that was a pretty big disadvantage when you compare the amount of time I was able to put in to studying and homework compared to the other students. I think it is important for you to share the name of your school so it will be helpful to others as they try to make there decisoin.
As a fellow ADHDer, and someone who is hoping to start at a Japanese LS in '26, this video was invaluable. Thank you so much for sharing your experience, I'll watch your previous videos with great interest.
Like you, I struggle with perfectionism due to the ADHD. One simple method I find that helps is the motto "Don't let perfect get in the way of good."
I have it written on a A4 piece of bright green card stuck to the wall above my study desk. It helps whenever I feel frustrated about lack of progress, getting something wrong or if my ADHD internal monologue starts critiscing me for not being "the best".
Right next to it is another sign "Comparison is the thief of joy", that helps too. Especially, when the monologue starts to do the whole " That person is better than you at " routine.
Hope this helps in someway. Best of luck with the rest of your time at LS, I'm looking forward to an update video in the future.
@K0nc3pt10n Yes, I'll do that once I graduated in March and make a final "review" with all the pros and cons.
@davidmorris5998 I'm so happy it helped you ☺️ And thank your for the tips! I'll try it 😊
Dealing with perfectionism is not easy. I also worked my way to burning out at the end of 2022 / beginning 2023, and now I also see the signs when it's coming again. Perfectionism, at least for me, comes from the desire to be better as everyone else. But comparing is the end of every happy feeling. The thing is, we, as japanese lerners, ARE getting better and better in the language. Maybe it doesnt feel like it, because after we have mastered around N4 or N3, we suddenly have the feeling that we are not progressing. But if you think about it, beeing able to speak and read a little bit of a language shorty after you have started learning it feels great, but at some point we have the feeling that nothing moves forward. This is not true. Like blowing a balloon, in the first blow the balloon gets quite big, but the last blows feel like it is not getting bigger anymore.
My way of thinking right now is: "I will be better as everyone else, but in my own pace. Not today and maybe not tomorrow. But as I work in my own pace, which gives me the opportunity not to burn out and enjoy learning, I will be better than anyone else. It's a marathon."
Wishing you very nice and fruitful 3 Months in Japan!
Kind greetings from your former study colleague Richard!
Hey Richard, I hope you're doing well! 😊
I love the ballon analogy! A great picture to keep in mind 🎈
It seems like, although, everyone is an adult in Japanese school, many of who already finished their uni, and have jobs and responsibilities, teachers treat you like school kids. I hated it as a student, but I cannot imagine, now, as a 26-year-old, someone shouting/scolding or even raising their voice at me. Feels quite disrespectful, to be honest. Stay strong 💪ft
Yes, kind of 😅 I think things would be easier in general, if we would be treated like the adults that we are.
Thank you, I'll do my best 🙏
I was in my late 30s when I went. I was also working at a Japanese company at the time. It's not uncommon to here shouting in the work environment it seems.
I’m so shocked, but glad that you decided to finish the term. Only less than 3 months left. 頑張れ❣️
頑張ります
It is good to hear that you are continuing your studies. I know that probably teacher was worried and it was not the best decision to talk about missing persons to the class who were participating to the classes. But glad to hear that talking to the teacher solved problems. I know that sometimes some courses might have minimum required attendees and If the amount is lower it might mean that the course is cancelled. This is my quess and there might be other things or reasons.
We have enough students in our class, but a lot of them wanted to leave as well before or change class, so might be a possible explanation 🤔
I had a bad experience at Japanese language school when they put me in a class with all Chinese speakers except me. And we're talking a big class. We did group work every class and they just spoke Chinese the whole time and ignored me during the group work. The teacher didn't speak Chinese so the class work was fine (she just spoke Japanese - although from time to time she would write a kanji on the board to "explain" something). It didn't bother me so much that they spoke Chinese during the breaks etc but during the group work was where I drew the line. I stopped going to class as a result and finally my teacher emailed me to ask why so I explained why and they switched me to another class with students from mixed backgrounds. The new class didn't speak much English either but at least they didn't exclude me. I would have been totally all for making friends using Japanese even outside class but I could tell none of them were quite that motivated to use Japanese. However it was a lot better and I didn't miss another class. The lesson being that you need to speak up and complain if things aren't going well. Sometimes (sometimes being the key) there are things they can do to fix it. I forget how long I studied there but it wasn't too long maybe 2 months. I chose to just self study after and save money. A big reason for going to the school for me was to make friends and that wasn't happening. If I could do it again I'm not sure what I would do. I think I made similar progress self studying full time in Japan but it was really lonely.
I have to say that my experience with the Chinese class disillusioned me about a lot of Chinese people learning Japanese. It was a JLPT N2 class but none of them could speak Japanese. That doesn't mean they couldn't pass the JLPT though. I think they just cheated in that they could infer the meaning of the Japanese based on the Chinese characters. I figured that was a thing but I also thought it would lead them to learning to speak Japanese pretty easily too but apparently not. Some of them learn to speak really well but I think they're the exception now. Most Chinese people just learn to read Japanese.
As you can imagine certain schools cater to different ethnic groups and you can definitely go to a school with a lot of westerners where almost all the students can speak English. I did go to one of those schools for a 3 week vacation and enjoyed it but it was more expensive and also most westerners don't reach an N2 level never mind N1. Anyway, I can absolutely see westerners just speaking English to each other and excluding the non-English speakers in group work also. It's just the way it is - if they can't speak Japanese or English what else can they do. I guess I was just taken aback because N2 is a rather advanced class and I thought people should be able to have a conversation by N3 for sure.
Thank you for sharing your experience.
I actually have a class that mostly speaks Japanese, except for 2 Chinese people, but we always try to speak Japanese to them to include them in the group work. But I know what you mean - your first experience sounds similar to the one "Hello Zuzu" posted on her channel.
@@Seriinudesu I'll need to check out Hello Zuzu.
@@Seriinudesu I watched her video. She stuck with her school for six months! I'm so impressed by her fortitude lol. Her line in the sand was different than mine but I think it was a similar experience. We both felt excluded and unwelcome.
I had a similar situation, but I spoke Chinese, so I was able to make friends with the students in my class. It can be a bit frustrating seeing how fast the Chinese speakers are able to pass JLPT at N2 when speaking wise they might not be as good as you, but really that shouldn't make a difference to your own personal goals. Being an English speaker, you get an advantage with a lot of modern katakana words that they don't.
@ The katakana is a small consolation 😂. I got along well my teachers. They were quick to point out the katakana words were used more than many of the Chinese borrowed words to the class too. If the class didn’t do group work and we just spent the whole lesson working as a class I would have been happy with the all Chinese class. I thought it was fascinating seeing how their experience learning Japanese and living in Japan differed from mine.
I cannot imagine continuing in a setting which has made me beat myself up about stuff. The fact that you decided to finish your studies means you have some fight left in you.
As you said, don't try to aim for perfection. Just try your best and don't put pressure on yourself too much.
If you feel like you learned more than you did prior to language school, thats the biggest accomplishment 💪🏻
頑張ってください!!
Also thanks for the reply on your previous video ❤️ and for being transparent about your experience.
Thank you 🤗
I'm so sorry you are having a bad experience. I currently am also studying in Japan and it hasn't been easy for me neither. Ein Unglück kommt selten allein. Or however the saying goes. So much respect for you! I'll be rooting for you :D
Thank you! I hope you can still make the best out of the situation 😊
Hii, I was your plane neighbor lol
Sorry to hear about your experience, seems like you were a bit unlucky; I feel like the language schools generally have a reputation whether they are very ’serious’ or relaxed , I chose the relaxed one haha but still had my struggles w communicating my needs & so on. Glad you were able to somewhat figure things out!!! Good luck:)
Hey Emi, thank you for leaving a comment 🙏
Good to know for the future 😁
Good luck with your plans as well 🤗
I can really understand your struggle, because i feel like we are quite similar in that way. I tend to put a lot on my plate because there are many things I want to do, but I also want to do really well in all of them. This perfectionist mindset is usually hurting me more than it is actually helping achieve my goals and I get really anxious and stressed. (I also suspect i have undiagnosed ADHD which is definitely not helping either😅)
I'm glad to hear you tried to figure out a way to take off some of that pressure to look after yourself. I hope you can feel a bit more relaxed during your remaining time at school! I think you can be really proud of yourself for getting this far. the journey to getting to language school and everything surrounding it is still a great achievement and it sounds like you learned a lot through it already, so if you keep going at your own pace, i'm sure you will reach your goals, even if it's not directly through studying at school. I hope you are doing well!!
Thank you for the nice comment 🥹
Yes! I'll try to make the best out of the time I have left at school and I rested a lot during winter vacation 😊
Wishing you all the best with fighting your own perfectionism demons as well ⚔️
I started language school in Tokyo the same time as you in October and I've had a lot of the same experiences. One of my teachers would pick on us so much that one of my classmates filled out a complaint.
Oh no, I'm sorry to hear that 🥲 I hope it will improve in the future.
Hey !
I finally arrived in Japan... And I started language school last week. I understand your pain lol, I have 2 kanji tests everyday in my class ^^"
I try to keep motivation. Some days are nice, some others are very overwhelming (like today)...
If you come to Tokyo don't hesitate to tell me, I would be happy if we can meet and/or study together (studying alone everyday is very さびしい...)
Force to you !
Hi, yay, you made it! ☀️
Oh, that's a lot? Which level did you get placed in? I'm sorry, that you experience overwhelm as well. I hope you'll eventually get used to it! 😊
It takes quite some time to go to Tokyo, so I'm avoiding it at the moment, sorry 😅
Thank you for this very honoust and open video. Lets hope things will get some better for you. I am older and was thinking of one day doing a language school for maybe 4 to 5 weeks. I have perfectionism as well and I have a few mental disorders. I should think good about this if this is something for me. Thanks again and I wish you all the best!
If it's just for a short time, it might be a good experience and if you don't like it, it will be over quickly as well. Good luck with your potential time in language school 🙏
Really refreshing that talking about a problem, in person, seems to work, at least it sounds like it so... *fingers crossed*.
About the perfectionism what helped me was trying to change my mindset. Language itself is sometimes fuzzy and not every rule is set in stone 100% of the time.
When it comes down to getting better in anything the most important thing is that I improve myself, I want to be better / more knowledgeable than my past self. Sometimes going slower, forgetting stuff and relearning things can be beneficial aswell. I mean maybe it didnt stick the first time because I was missing some other information I didn't have at that time or I did look at a question/problem the wrong way. Time helps with that.
I really understand the feeling to make the best out of it since you have limited time at the language school tho.
Thank you for your comment 🤗 I'll try to do my best! Lots of luck for your own endeavors too 😊
@@Seriinudesu danke und dir auch. wenn alles gut läuft language school ab Oktober 😁
(eben noch einen Rechtschreibfehler im ursprünglichen Kommentar angepasst. aber glaube man versteht was ich sagen wollte)
I went to language school in Japan too and I understand you totally. I really felt stressed all the time, although I did Japanese language just to get the visa. Language schools have to be kind of strict, I guess, put up pressure, it´s the idea to give your best and also make sure that the students give their best. Of course, they could do it differently, but that´s Japan, with its good and best sides. Dealing with stress isn't easy, but just think of the fact that it´s only 3 months and you will learn something. After leaving Japan, I even miss language school.:-) When you are there, you don't feel it that much, because you get used to living there. Therefore: Ganbatte ne...you don't need to be the best, just do it for yourself. Everything will work out and the experience of living in Japan will prevail...
Thank you for the kind words! 😊 Yes, I already know I'll miss it despite some bad experiences - we're in a love hate relationship 😄
Adults, not treating you as a paying adult is ridiculous...
Kind of 😅
Hi Seri, I understand yiur situation. I was in your situation in 2022. Also not teachers, some administrative staff also acted aggressively. It was sooo much exhausted. So I quited. But never refund my remaining payment. But now I'm studying at Japanese University. It was totally different than LS. I'm happy my previous decision. Don't worry. Time will make your decision great.
I'm happy it turned out well for you!
Thank you 🙏
@Seriinudesu best for 2025. I'm also like you. I always want to perfect what I'm doing. It's totally for satisfaction of myself. Not like as competitive mindset. I'm also sound sensitive person and suffered from depression. It's ok sometime to take step back and come again as stronger. You have many paths. I'm really happy what you do in YT community. I'm not a regular viewer. But cheers to you in my heart ❤️❤️❤️
oh nooo Serin...
so sad to hear you got into a bad school... 😞
keep going and try to make the best of the remaining 3 months
I don't think it's necessarily a bad school, there are just a lot of things to improve 😅
It always sucks to look forward to something for so long and then have it be a disappointment in so many ways 😩 I'm glad that at least your teacher was responsive to feedback and that you found a few possible solutions to the outside-noise -- hopefully those small changes will at least make it a bit better. As a professor myself, the idea of having the classroom door open all the time sounds terrible! I would be distracted myself by all the motion and noise outside. Every time you mention it in a video, I get re-horrified by the idea 😂 I imagine it's so the director or whoever can walk around and make sure people are speaking Japanese or doing work or whatever, but I always just wonder.. do they trust their teachers that little? 😅
Haha, true 😂 It would bother me a lot as well, if I were the teacher 😅
I'm looking for Japanese language schools in Tokyo and am dying to avoid the one you're talking about. Any chance you could please share some level of detail? Maybe general area within Tokyo?
Hi, my school is not in Tokyo, so don't worry 😊
Good people are disadvantaged by bad people. Good people are made uncomfortable. It is so unreasonable. Everyone knows you are good and hardworking. Be confident!
Aw, thank you! I don't see the teachers as bad people though, I guess they just value other things? 😅
i was also planning on coming on a studentvisa and work 24 hrs for my company but didn't know if this will be accepted. I'm happy to see that it was possible for you. 😊
It was good that you talked to them and they seem to have taken it serious at least
btw. chatgpt is also my therapist😂
i had this problem with perfectionism when i was studying (not languages but i think it's similar) when i got diagnosed with adhd i started to talk more nicely to myself. for example before that i was like: "why can't i get it, everyone get's it but me and i'm not intelligent ..."
after the diagnose i started to talk to myself like this: "okay it seems that i'm struggling but it went good until now, i'll have a short break amd then retry" this did help me a lot because i took the pressure from myself
i hope you'll still enjoy your time :)
No nice that you found a way that works for you with the self talk 😊 I should do that as well - I just forget sometimes 😅
Good luck with your plans on coming to Japan 🍀
@ thank you!🫶
I went to German language school in Frankfurt. It was very pleasant. Nothing like this.
I'm happy to hear that 😊
Hi again Serii👋🏻 sorry to hear about your experience with the language school. It's nice to hear you managed to reach some consensus with the teacher after talking to her. I believe you'll look back on the experience and not regret continuing the language school😊 for perfectionism, I think maybe what might help is to plan and write beforehand how much you're going to study and have a doable goal from the start. Then when you reach it, just stop and do something you enjoy or rest. This might help to still feel happy about your study sessions because you reached your goal, and be able to control it so you don't start aiming for more and more due to perfectionism. What do you think? 😊
Hey. Thank you for your suggestion. The hard part is just allowing myself to rest I guess 😅 But I'll try it 😊
@Seriinudesu true, but that's why defining an exact goal before studying might help. Because you'll get the satisfaction of having completed your goal. Good luck either way 💪🏻🤗
Thank you 🙏
This just seems insane to me... especially considering you're paying for the school. Like them tacitly threatening by saying you can't use them as a reference if you don't complete the course in its entirety. Or the part about being lectured angrily and held past the usual time, just seems ridiculous considering it's meant to be a paid service.
Yep, the fact that the tuition is pretty steep makes things more annoying 😅
Just got your video recommended 😊 subscribed
May I ask what do you plan to do after learning? Like what kind of job do you want to do? What's your field?
Thank you! Welcome to the channel 🤗
I just learn Japanese as a (very intense) hobby 😅 I plan on reading a lot and hopefully be able to properly speak when I visit the country one day 😁
I work in licensing 😊
@Seriinudesu oh nice! All the best with your studies.
🗻⛩🥰 Love your channel, a must watch 🤗
Aw, thank you, Annie! 🤗🙏
I'm starting school at Arc Academy Shinjuku this week and I'm kinda worried how I'll cope with my ADHD... I took the JLPT N4 last month and would consider myself an intermediate learner, but my listening and output really sucks. Kinda shitting myself lol
Good luck with your plans 🍀
What school is this?
I'll share the school name once I graduated in March/April, because of privacy reasons 😊
@Seriinudesu please do. I want to know which school to avoid.
I really don't know what tell you as someone who hates courses and language schools and a big belivere of "you can learn a language by your own". But I'm sorry that you and your classmates has been going through this bad experience and I hope it doesn't affect your perspective on all the japaense teachers cause I'm sure there are good ones out there!
I know what you mean, but I also think, language courses are useful in some cases, especially when starting out 😊
We also have some good ones, so I'm trying to take the positive energy from their classes with me into the other ones 😅
It might be selfish but I'm glad you're not quitting school I'm sure there will be more videos 😆. I'm not really a perfectionist but I definitely had issues being so bad at Japanese compared to native speakers but living in Japan surrounded by them. I think the best thing you can do it just talk about it with friends or family. Even making videos on TH-cam assuming your viewers are supportive and I'm guessing they are.
As for learning vocabulary the best method I have found is to use it. If you've tried this already you already know forcing yourself to use even one new word per day is quite the effort and a few words even harder and I've never gone beyond say using 5 new words in a single day. I don't know if I ever even did that many. It's a good method because I think it's the best and fastest way to make a word part of your long term memory for life but it's also a huge pain in the butt and you can't use it for very many words.
The other thing you can do is to keep studying kanji. They really are the building blocks and I don't see this as a short cut but if you keep studying kanji your vocabulary will keep increasing. Your real vocabulary - when you know the kanji in a word you pretty much know the word also.
One thing I am trying (again) is active recall vocabulary flash cards. I'm putting a picture on side 1 and the rest of the info on side 2. In the past these made me burn out fast so that might happen again but Chat GPT insists active recall flash cards are the #1 best choice. And from what I've seen with all the other flash cards I do (reading/listening) these words never make it into my long term memory UNLESS the words are also used in real life somehow - or I learn the kanji. I don't think the Anki SRS formula (or any SRS formula) really works for me so I'm trying to make my own. My problem is that after one week I seem to always always forget the new words and if I don't give up and persist anyway (which I've only ever done when I was self studying full time in Japan for 2 years) then I can finally make this interval bigger but even then I forget these low frequency words at about 2 months. My new experimental formula is to slowly increase the interval from 1 day to one week and then keep the interval at one week for several weeks. Doing active recall. And then hopefully I will know it. Honestly I am a little skeptical that this will work but it's a hobby and I enjoy it.
If I were a betting man I'd only bet on remembering words you can use. So I'd only try to learn daily conversation words and nothing else. Unless I got a job in Japan then I would focus on words I would need for my job. You probably want to prelearn words to avoid the huge amount of stress involved with learning them on the fly but I am not sure this is realistic for me or most people.
Anyway, good luck. If you hit on a great method for learning vocabulary please post it.
Haha, at least you're honest 🤣
I'll definitely keep studying kanji (since it's also one of my favorite things to do, when it comes to Japanese) 😁
If I ever find a good method for remembering vocab words, I'll post it!
@ I already burned out on the production flash cards 😑. I don’t know how people do them except to cram for a test the next day.
Sounds like you've put in an incredible amount of effort to me! I'll be honest, the teacher behaviour shouting at the class is completely unacceptable, and I would be putting in a complaint and also leaving. I think their note about immigration might also just be a way of them keeping you there, so i would be suspicious, since they are a business after all, but if you can find a way to be kind to yourself and stay there for a little longer then it sounds worth it. I hope you can rest and look after yourself and enjoy some of the experience of being in Japan. You should be incredibly proud of what you've achieved so far, but also time to give yourself some gentle treatment and be kind to yourself!
Thank you so much for the kind words. I really appreciate it! 🤗
@Seriinudesu 🤗❤️
Oh noo I think I am going to the same school as you in April for one year and now I am even more nervous! I thought these schools were well vetted through GoGoNihon 😭 😭
I talked to a lot of students in the last days and their experiences differ quite a lot. If you enter at the lowest level, you should be fine. It's more in the higher level that people tend to get more upset about things 🤷🏻♀️
I hope you'll get a good class! 🍀
Personally if I were a teacher and I were upset about say half the class slacking off... I wouldn't just tell off the whole class. I just know what it's like being on the receiving end of that and thinking what am I doing wrong? Sometimes you don't even know you're not the one they're upset about per se either. Even if you do know it still is an unpleasant experience. This happens in the workplace a lot too.
28 hours a week of language school is a lot. I went for one year many years ago, and almost all the courses were 20 hours a week. Many of my classmates worked overnight shifts in restaurants and came straight to class in the morning. That must have been difficult.
There was less drama in my course, but one day in the middle of class, a couple of students from Taiwan and China suddenly burst into a loud argument that almost came to punches. The next day the teacher made them come to the front of class and bow and apologize to the rest of us.
At most schools in the 2000s, they took attendance every hour(!) and were required to report to immigration and if you were absent too much you would lose your student visa. It’s not about effort, but about avoiding people entering Japan on an easier-to-get student visa and then working for a better salary than they can get at home.
Ganbatte.
I think I must've said something incorrectly, I'm sorry - I'm working 28h and going to school for 20h 😅
Sounds tough 😅
@@Seriinudesu ah no, I listened again, you said it right, my mistake.
which textbook did you use?
I showed and linked them all in my "1 day in language school" video 😊
I'll preface this with my apologies for the long text. I'm just terrible at keeping things short, even though I tried.
Sorry to hear that language school wasn't such a great experience. I hope it will be better now. I was really surprised that this teacher was so nice and understanding. Not because I had another experience, but simply because it was totally opposite the screaming. I'm not sure if those were the same teacher or two seperate ones, but it's strange to think about such opposites working at the same school.
Regarding perfectionism, I can share how I learned to kind of handle it. I'm a bit of an oddball though, so I'm not sure if any of those things also work for you.
I mainly do two things. I try to prioritze. So basically I try to think about what I want or have to do not in the way of: I need to pour all the energy I have into it.
Instead I think about the time I have to do it and how important it is.
Perfectionism in itself is not a bad thing, but it has its time and place.
An example would be doing the dishes vs writing a job application. Doing the dishes is (unfortunately) important, but it's okay to not do them for three hours just to make sure that its perfect. With a job application you need to put in more time and maybe go over it a day after you've written it, just to make sure there are no typos or similar things. And since they're are also important, you can't just decide not to do that.
The second thing I try to do is accept that I'll not be satisfied. In my case, I'd have to pour every last bit of energy into most things I do to even have a chance of being satisfied with myself. And that is (obviously) not very healthy. Especially when learning new skills, it's just such an overwhelming task to be perfect, that I'd rather avoid learning the thing alltogether. So in allowing myself not to be satisfied/perfect, it gives me room to breathe and for messing up. And as cheesy as it sounds: Messing up results in growth.
Thank you for the long message and kind words, I really appreciate it! 😊
Haha, no it was the same teacher 😅 And we also have very kind as well as some strange teachers, so it's a big mix of characters 😅
Hi Celine~
You konw language school is not only about go to language school itself, it is something like, to pay for the premission of staying in the country. You may know many people get the visa through language school but as they landed they went somewhere else to work, without attend any single lecture, and obviously these kind of things is not allowed, and it seems also be a problem by the goverment.
Maybe try to change the type of visa will be better for you~ and seems you also choosed to do it
Anyway hope doing well😄
i remember when you first posted about the tips and info about applying to language school (I took your advice and now I'm in JP too)
So it is sad to see how things have become for you. Hopefully with the changes will help the next few months for you.
Thank you. I'm hoping you're having a better experience in language school 😊
@@Seriinudesu surely some similarities with school but the good definitely outweighs the bad so I thank you for your early videos that helped me figure out the application process and what to expect before school
@ Yay, I'm happy to hear that 🤗🙏
Oh wow, da hast du ja echt einiges mitgemacht. Und mir kam es auch so vor als hätte sie die Visa-Karte nur gezogen, um dich an der Schule zu halten. Sieht ja auch nicht gut für sie aus, wenn Schüler aus ihre Klasse vorzeitig abbrechen. Richtig manipulatives Verhalten. Tut mir echt wahnsinnig leid, dass du diese Erfahrung machen musstest, zumal du echt viel für diesen Traum getan hast.
Was den Perfektionismus angeht, kann ich das total nachvollziehen. Ich war früher auch so. Was mir aber geholfen hat war das Buch „Einen Scheiß muss ich“ von Sean Brummel. Das hatte ich mir mal vor Jahren zufällig am Flughafen gekauft, weil ich den Titel lustig fand. Ist sehr satirisch und plakativ, hat mich aber wirklich zum nachdenken über mein eigenes Verhalten gebracht in bestimmten Situationen. Und noch heute, wenn ich mal wieder zu viel auf einmal will erinnere ich mich an Passagen aus dem Buch und überdenke mein Mindset. Vielleicht hilft es dir ja auch. Allerdings habe ich kein ADHS. Also ist das bei dir vielleicht doch nochmal anders. Liebe Grüße und alles Gute weiterhin 🫶
Hey Cat, danke für die Buchempfehlung 🙏
Alles was du erzählst hört sich bekannt an. als ich mein Working hollyday Visa angetreten bin wurde ich für den ersten Monat auch in eine Sprachschule in Fukuoka gesteckt und das war genau so eine absolut nutzlose Erfahrung. Die schule hat mich in einen Kurs gesteckt der zu hoch für mich war nur weil es Zeitlich gepasst hat, die Lehrering hat schnell gemerkt das mein Japanisch nicht gut genug war also hat sich mich komplett ignoriert und auf meine Beschwerde hin wurde ich nicht ernstgenommen. Das war 1/12 meiner Zeit in Japan und ein Haufen Geld obendrauf. Ich ärgere mich heute immer noch. Ich kann Sprachschulen dort drüben NULL empfehlen
Ohje, das tut mir leid 🥲
I thought about jp school like 3 years ago, but i thought it was a waste of time and money when there are so many useful free resources today like ANKI which makes vocab simple and easy.
There are a lot of free things out there, but sometimes an outside guidance can be very helpful - depending on how much experience you have with self-studying a language.
I would really like to know which Language school is this so i would avoid it... i do not like that style of teaching.
I'll share it in March/April 😊 However, my friends in the beginner level had a better experience, so it differs within the school.
@@Seriinudesu from what I heard the beginner experience is almost always fun and easy-going, and it is in the intermediate where they get super strict and very demanding and kind of "evil" on you. some schools even emphasise and pride themselves on that stark difference in teaching modes between the beginner level (n5, n4 - "let's just sing songs") and intermediate n3 and beyond where there is this "I am going to exorcise any way i can those kanji or piece of grammar out of you" mode.
@aishabakr5850 Ah, okay. That makes sense. People in the lower classes seem to have a good time at my school as well.
Be careful who you associate with.
There are dishonest people in Japan who take advantage of foreigners who don't know the law.
Since you are paying the school, the school is supposed to treat you well.
I think it is very suspicious that the school teacher may be rude to you.
You should be free to quit the school any time you want and perhaps find another school.
I have never been to a Japanese language school, so I don't know how they work.
I attended for a short time a free Japanese course run by volunteers.
I thought it was very good, I had no troubles with them.
I'm happy you had a good experience though 😊
what the heck, you are grown adults. I would leave a class immediateyl if i need to work.
I studied Japanese on and off for 30 years. I had secret crushes on a lot of the teachers. I did manage to meet one terrible teacher and dropped the course after the first lesson. Immersion 3 hours a week was really pleasant. Not to be negative but perhaps you should study an overview of philosophy. I get a lot of mileage out of it and guided my daughter into taking such a course and abnormal psychology in addition to Japanese at college. Long story, but you won't burn out if you know these things.
Interesting to know. Thank you 😊
Foreigners come from all over the world, with all sorts of different values, for all sorts of purposes, and with all sorts of different levels of Japanese language ability, so I think it must be hard for teachers to teach them. If teachers don't produce results, they'll be fired. If you were to be a teacher at this school, would you be confident that you could do it well enough that no one would complain? I think it's difficult to teach classes that satisfy all the students. If you want a kind teacher, you should have taken private lessons that are tailored to your level. I don't think you should have gone to a school like this.
I understand that this is hard, but it's still not a valid reason to scream at people, because it actually makes us wanna study less and produces worse results (not only my opinion) and other teachers/classes make it work with being nice to each other - so I don't see how it's not a realistic thing to wish for, especially if you pay thousands of euros 🤷🏻♀️
Hi Celine..,
Hello 😊
@Seriinudesu where are u from.??
@muhamadyusuf6377 Germany
@@Seriinudesu Coll..,i'm from Indonesia🇮🇩😁
Maybe an advice would be not want to be a fluent speaker in Japanese. I think that it only achieve if you live in Japan.
Thank you, but that's actually not my goal 😄 I just want to be able to consume content comfortably at some point 😊
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Oh man so stark, dass du das Gespräch gesucht hast. Sie hat dich einfach so geblendet, mit dem guten Wort einlegen bei der Immigrationsbehörde. Allein die Formulierung, regt mich schon auf. Als ob da künftig jemand als dein persönlicher Fürsprecher auftreten würde. Du bist "young professional" und wirst bei nem Langzeitaufenthalt, aus Sicht der Behörde, potentiell hohe Steuern fürs Land erwirtschaften. Du kommst aus nem wirtschaftlich starken Land, hast sicher keine Einträge im Führungszeugnis und bis du das mal in die Tat umsetzen willst, hast du sicher auch N2. Wenn du doch mal wieder abbrechen willst, dann mach das einfach. Geißel dich doch nicht mit einer Zukunft, von der eh noch völlig unklar ist, wann und ob die überhaupt kommt. :(((
Zur Perfektionismusfrage: Ich find tägliche Affirmationen ganz gut, z.B. Du bist wertvoll, ohne dass du dafür etwas leisten oder tun musst." Aber das trifft vlt. noch nicht ganz genau dein Gefühl?
Hey, danke für den Kommentar 😊 Gut möglich, dass sie das als Überzeugungsmittel verwendet hat 😅 Stimmt, Affirmationen wären ein guter Anfang.
If i had the opportunit to go 28 hours a week to a real japanese language school i would run every day to get there and learn as much i can. I would never waste my time focusing on lamenting, dysecting teachers or anything else. I would go there, do my best to adjust myself to a foreign country, foreign culture, class mates who probably come from all over the world, teachers who are probably never ever able to satisfy everyone' special needs.
Maybe just maybe you could just be a little greatful to have an opportunity to have this experience. Japanese teachers may not be "your kind "of teachers you are used to. It is called : life , and life means you need to build up people/social skills to be able to fit in, in different places, situations, environments and cultures. So, take the positives and run with it instead of focusing on every point you can find to be unhappy, unconfortable, un....
I am very grateful, and I think I made that clear in some of my other videos. I just believe in equal respect for each other and a healthy learning environment. If that's not important for you, that's fine too. I just want to give a honest opinion about how I feel, so people that value the same things as me, know what they're getting into 😊
I find it very hard to beleave that japanese teachers in a japanese school in japan are as you describe them. They are super friendly, kind, helpful, customer oriented, help with visas/ homestays and are very happy that foreigners want to learn their language. They bend their backs down to accommodate and make people feel comfortable and at home. They behave as a people in a humble way. They are welcoming students from all over the world including me and never behave as you say. They do not humiliate or abuse anyone. It is not in their DNA.
I know japanese people for a long time, have been there, have taken and still take classes with all sorts of japanese teachers in all sorts of environments.
I have yet to come across a teacher/ school/ person that has and does what you say.
Appreciate Japan, Japanese Teachers, their Culture and their People
So when you go to a restaurant, pay for the food and get something spoiled you eat it with a smile on your face and not complain? Get a grip.