Why I had to stop my Aikido training
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I remember, way back in the '80s, almost getting my arm broken by an Aikido guy. I've had the deepest respect for Aikido since then! :)
Good video, I have practiced since 1975. Back in the 90s Dojos were full because of Seagal films. I am lucky that our class are always busy. I totally agree about looking around and finding a club that suits your personality. Having a Judo background as well I settles into Tomiki Aikido as I liked the testing of techniques in a competitive format. At 63 after 49 years of practice I enjoy my Aikido as much as I did when I first started.
You guys are a lot of fun...I may have to check out your on-line stuff...being in America and all.
Depends on the teacher. Putting the harm back into harmony.
Great video! Straight up they answer the question minute and a half in! Aikido is for real! The main fight is fighting yourself!
you two are very entertaining. as soon as you two started smiling I knew it was going to be a good video :)
I love ❤️ your videos. They are great at explaining and showing how Aikido really works.
Love you fellas, Keep Shining and Many Blessings.
Redirect Ass, instead of kicking Ass
Hahahaha love you guys! I have switched to another martial art in Spain (Aikido was too far away). I like it but still miss Aikido!
I remember my relationship was over and I wanted to get my mind off it and I joined an Aikido school. There I met more girls and stayed training for 11 years but then I grew out of it. I was tired of putting on my Hakama and folding it almost everyday. That was about 21 years ago. Wow! Time flys by quick.😂
Thanks for sharing.👍🏽
Ahhh the click bait!😂😂 I studied Aikido as a child for 4 years in Japan, and even though I am a karate instructor, my prior knowledge of Aikido has helped me understand the deeper applications of certain movies in Kata. You guys are great, I always enjoy your content. Keep up the great work!
You just argued in aikidos disfavour. Katas is a form for show Thats why its a separate discipline in karate competions.
Aikijutsu in my dojo. Works. 😎
Akijutsu does work : most aikido.. doesn’t .
Never force a particular technique to work, always work with the opportunity, what the opponent gives you, so it takes training and experience to acquire the variety of techniques that are good for your body type and skill level , in my opinion striking and grappling should be combined in a comprehensive manner,
And from my experience, I tend to see that younger people are out in street fight situations more than the “more mature”, personally being 68 I am not out carousing and prowling and my combat is exclusively in the dojang, but sincere practice of basics and some fun with more “advanced” techniques of Taekwondo, Hapkido, and judo plus a good dose of randori and daeryon, old school style with contact but some safety rules, less so than IJF AND WTF, give me good confidence if some encounter were to occur, but also prevent any serious injuries that a lot of full contact would cause. Some people tend to think that the only way to have good martial arts is to practice often full contact, I think that is just asking for injuries. You can always pound the bag, break boards, slam throws on a crash pass but I advise using sensible control for the most part
In my opinion,
Aikido helps you develop the most important aspects of every martial art, better than most. That being balance, breathing, situational awareness, controlling your opponents energy etc.
It's a superb foundational art.
I'm glad many dummies influenced by MMA will never join us and turned away hee hee been it's their loss
Karate is not only about kicking and punching this is a very old misconception we have grappalling armbars throws weapons etc...
TEN SHIN AIKIDO is VERY manly and rough-- it's Segal's Style- + and very effective.. Wish I could go continue in it- but I got mashed between 2 trucks in 99 and can't do much of anything any more.
Sorry to hear that 😢
I'm very sorry to hear this happened to you. May God heal you.
My teacher told me... Aikido moves and footwork allowed his Jujitsu to become better
I started Aikido specifically to help support my skill in Judo. Aikido has given me a specific outlook that widened my consciousness in how to move my body.
Keep it up guys!!
Practical application in actual defense situations calls for a deep internal understanding of the principles of balance (mental, emotional, physical and spiritual) - whatever method/style you employ absolutely can lead you to this and then at some point you realize that you need to let the structure of method/style go because the internal knowledge gained through consistent training takes you to another level of being in any situation in life. MA is essentially, ultimately about transformation, development to being a better person.
Badly explained but I hope you get my meaning 🧐
@@shaunday9626No spot on. You explained it well. Bruce Lee was decades ahead of his time and understood this in the 1960s. We are far better when we practice with purpose
Love your video. I was lucky enough to train with an Aikido master for just over 2 years. I have been involved in Karate and also boxed for over 5 years and a boxing trainer for over 5 years and have always said Aikido for me was one of the great forms of self defence. And thank you for bring it to the awareness for others to see how brilliant this art really is. Thank you. 🙏
You guys are fun. I’m excited to follow your flow. My first sport was boxing and I’m a boxing coach I have some minimal training and a in Akido. As a bouncer I’ve used it to great effect, understanding, footwork, and distance management, that I got from my training as a boxer. With some formal training, I think I could be dangerous lol
i purchased 2 shirts already... but i definitely will buy one with "the way of Combat" on the back
This was awesome!!!!
Nice !!! The martial thoughts are there. Even there are indeed some techniques who are not ‘efffective’ … aikido can give fun an moments of friendship and joy. But still indeed very important never forget the martial element of Aikido. Yes it is !!! Good luck to all !!!
Bleibt so wie ihr seid, ihr seid einfach klasse, bitte immer weiter so 👍🏻
Viele Grüße aus Bremerhaven, Germany 😘
Give an extreme ninja encounter
You too guys are a great dbl act very likeable very good at what you do 😊😊
Honest observation from those who live the lifestyle...😊
Krav Maga can be brutal (it's basically street fighting, after all) and I took it long enough (about 10 years) to realize its limitations. It can definitely use some Aikido implemented into it!
As a Hapkido instructor myself there is a lot in common with some of the fluff in Hapkido and what can be found in Aikido.
The thing is that it is the instructor's responsibility to translate and adapt techniques for the students to get them started thinking about how a technique works in the real world. Traditional training is all well and good but realistic training with realistic scenarios are need to introduce the student to making techniques practical. Unfortunately it also means that the instructor needs some real world experience of their own.
Yes indeed. I started in the mid 1990s and my long time 'aikido' sensei has also been doing Wing Chun since he was 7 [he's 60 now] is a 2nd Dan in Okinawa karate and he brings other martial art dojos in to cross train with us, such as taekwondo and jui jitsu. He also gives us realistic scenarios to play with. I was asked by a guy who runs a security firm [found out I'd been doing aikido for decades] if I wanted extra money to work in clubs. I discussed it with my sensei, who wasn't happy about it but still instructed me with some real time techniques. Hard to restrain someone who's drunk or on drugs so a downward strike with extended index finger knuckle to the subscapularis tendon in the shoulder, detaches the tendon from the bone. They want to hit you BUT they can't lift their arm. Very nasty. I decided NOT to put myself in that type of situation so I didn't take the job.
I’m no expert, but Aikido always felt like it expected too much motion. In the time a guy throws a single punch, I’m expected to move in, grab the arm, and start a pin or throw. Maybe someone can if it was a slow guy, but someone who punches fast seems nearly impossible.
What you're missing about Aikido is how Aikido movements are connected to the sword. First you give a sword to an attacker and get him to attack using the sword; you'll find that all the timing and distances that you train during Aikido will fit perfectly. In fact, the principles of Aikido work just as well with longer reach weapons (staff, spear, pool stick, rake), short reach weapons, and even bare handed attacks. The thing that changes is the matter of distances and timing.
The "slow" movements involved in typical Aikido kata are perfectly suited for defending against the longer distances involved in weapon attacks. So if you want to train in Aikido for defending against bare handed fights, you're going to need insight and training techniques for the super quick timing and super short distances involved with punches, grabs, elbows, and knees.
Although I have not yet been priviledged to be a student in the art, I would think what puts many prospective and beginning students off is just how physically rough Aikido is. I'm particularly thinking of all the throws and falls .. In fact, I can't think of a rougher art in that regard other than maybe traditional judo. So, you better be in dang good physical condition before even beginning your training, and be able to stand up to all the rough throws and falls ,,,, and I just don't see how anyone over, say the age of 50 or so, can get into it unless they really are. I mean, it's possible a student could pay a sensei/dojo to never use them as the "uke" in a technique during their training, but then you would have to wonder how effective their training would really be in that kind of situation? One possible solution for this problem I have suggested on here (but no one seems to have picked up on 😉) is possibly developing an "aqua-Akido" method of training, with the training of beginners starting in a swimming pool filled with water just above knee depth. This would help avoid injury to the participants, until they have become accustomed to the throws and falls and the "proper" way to execute them. This slowing down of the footwork would also help them emphasize same, and help build up speed, coordination and strength, in a way similar to a baseball batter in the batter's box swinging 2 or 3 bats prior to stepping up the plate with just one. Over time, the level of the water could be gradually dropped to, maybe knee level, then shin level, and eventually ankle level, before making the shift to dry land inside the dojo. This method may also aid potential students who have some sort of medical disability or condition to which throws and falls could do some serious harm to them. Just an idea .. KEEP GROWING, AIKIDOFLOWERS!
In fact, if you look further on TH-cam, there is a video by Aikido sensei Erik Calderon who points out what he finds to be the three main things a beginner in Aikido can expect to encounter that might put them off on their quest to learn the art. One of those, again, is the roughness of the falls and throws.
Where is your Dojo in London? Would love to visit you once I make Vacations visiting England 🥰
Their London based Dojo is called 'AZ Self Defence''. From their website, it appears to be temporarily closed.
Wish was where I could train with you guys. It depends on teachers. i have had 2 different instructors, one was way more effectve than the other. Made it to 1st kyu before dojo closed, no where to do aikido anywhere near me anymore. Did Bujinkan for awhile.
It's called, defending yourself in style.
Systems such as Defendo and Combato descended from military combatives, where "ungentlemanly" techniques were the norm. I was wondering if a version of Aikido could be had that taught some of the same things, quick, simple, easy to learn blows to vitals, pressure points, and pain inducing joint locks, to be tried to save the bacon of an ordinary otherwise untrained person on the streets in case of attack?
It's not easy to rework Aikido to fit that kind of "instant impact, low training time" framework that is a character of Defendo and Combato. The reason is in the context that Aikido movements are connected to sword movements: Aikido is a form of weapon defense that allows a swinging weapon to swing around. The concept of moving off the line of attack then blending your own energy with the weapon strike is inherently a difficult skill to master and is the opposite of "instant impact, low training time".
@@FreeSalesTips Ok, thanks for the info.
Nice
Wow 😮
I believe all martial artist have left the art they were learning, but eventually returned to the art they were learning and maybe more.
💯👍✌️😎!
I love hanging out here but people how violent are your streets? Since a lot of times people are asking about the effectiveness, I would think that the number one reason would be self improvement, like better coordination and discipline. Thanks for the laughter.
I tried to leave Ikea but that place is a maze.
What do you guys think about Steven Seagal's hand deflections? I find they give all sorts of entry points to Aikido techniques. He really did change the game.
I also find it's easy to add stuff like elbows and knees to Aikido. I think the major mental obstacle to overcome for a lot of people is to stop expecting the style to feed all the answers. A lot of it comes down to creativity. If anything, people can just play with this stuff in an mma class and see where it takes you.
As always, guys, HILARIOUS video. Keep being awesome!
What you practice that you become…it doesn’t matter which martial art you practice….in real situation we need to use common sense to apply our techniques in effective way…
And if they don't think it's manly enough watch and old Steven seagal movie.thats enough proof right there
As long as they don't see him running in a movie... That is a little questionable for being manly 😂
@@tonyredman536 Steven seagal might not be the best actor or runner in the world.but I whouldint pick a fight with him.he brought aikido to world on the big screen.regardless of all the shit people talk about.respect as a great martial artist
I think 1) you shouldn't use aikido for self defense, 2) aikido is complex or ambitious because it's both hands and weapon practice 3) I used to train for only 2 years and found original aikido strange because we had to simulate the bokken movements when we were throwing or submitting with hands only. your arm becomes the bokken so you would do hand techniques like if you were holding the bokken. 4) traditional karate is richer because they include all aikido techniques 5) aikido seems seriously limited compared to combat sports because you only practice defense techniques: an aikidoka cannot attack using aikido technique simply because they only attack with atemi. 6) if you want to be expert at throwing forget aikido and practice judo.
I see Aikido as a Spiritual Martial Art. The practice is for other reasons than self defense.
Aikido hard style is supposed to be techniques integrated with Judo/JuJutsu not a stand alone art.
Don't mean to be terribly negative here, but Aikido only works as an augmentation to another style and then only situationally. Unfortunately you only have to do a quick search to show the dozens of "masters" combating multiple people who are obviously holding back, you can watch people literally fall and roll before they are touched, you see a style steeped rigidly in tradition, and in most dojos you spend more time bowing to the founder than practicing. The style was never adequately shown off during the first couple UFCs, and all problems are blamed on the practicioner instead of the style like a gaslighting partner. It does not adapt believing itself perfect. It does work, but best as an augmentation of other styles, you can work in an Aikido move while you are doing something else if you know it. Bang for the buck though, that's a lot of work for a potential opportunity that likely will never come in sparring, fighting, or really anything. Leaves Aikido in a weird place.
The augmentation also plays an important part in the evolution of Aikido. Senseis in every Dojo who have trained in other martial arts do incorporate other styles to make it relevant. For me Jiu waza in our Dojo used to be my moment of truth. Many things didn't work, but the Jiu waza sessions helped in course correction. I have trained Karate and Taekwondo before. There were criticisms of these arts too, but people have special hate for Aikido! I guess it is the way it is trained (slowly) and the unnatural holds probably.
@@krishnajamNo, it's because every Aikido master in cell phone videos facing a challenge from a boxer, wrestler or judoka gets rag dolled or beat up like a pit bull on a pork chop.
And because many Aikido sensei pronounce that Aikido isn't for fighting and if one wants to learn to fight go learn boxing.
And because osensei himself wrote in his book Art of Peace, Aikido is not for fighting and the physical techniques of Aikido are for exercise only.
So then you’re saying he’s a liar. You’re saying he’s lied about all of the times he’s claimed to have used Aikido as a bouncer. Cool.
I trained in ki aikido under Sensei Williams, I found it useless compared with Yoshinkan aikido , a hard style
Stop being “street” , “ dojo” it’s all the same. Reference points make all “techniques” work. We need to understand that the techniques are basics, we advance them by pressure testing them the best we can, with the mindset that we intend to use them
Stop aikido and train Daito Ryu. Or Judo. Or Uechi Ryu
Didn't get the chance to hear this but!
Excuse me But! you are starting at the wrong premise -
www.youtube.com/@fudo9/videos
This is "KI" Everything you see in the vids above begins at "the feet"
Leverage = TORIFUNE", the internal energy generator, where body
weight meets leverage + the tanden. Here we have "internal power"
Aikido.
You have half the knowledge to perform Aikido. You never continued
your Aikido studies. You stopped halfway and set you ego free. It knows
better than nature, correct? Better than god? correct?
The subconscious releases it, the instinct picks it up, the critical though procsse
recognises it, repeats, remembers it, includes it in Aikido. No!!
Excuse me But! you are starting at the wrong premise -
You are talking the Aikido broken down so that normal people can
study and learn it. Then we are supposed to put it back together to use
with experience, using Aikido/Budo principles. I don't see amny of that here.
You are in the box talking/teaching about everything 'in the box.” All is fiction.
From out-side the box Aikido I see only "how to study Aikido' broken down".
Aikido exist because of our, Human Anatomy. That how it was found. It was
revealed happening and Osensei found it to be happening. Yes! you went halfway
and stopped dicovering. No critical thinking or inovation.
What is the greatest weapon we, of all sizes, posses? "Body Weight"
The vertical gravitational body weight Body Weight which you never mention or
use. I can see/hear what you say.
You are struggling with Aikido by shoulder wrestling the technique.
A punch is only as good as the weight/strength behind it/? Correct?
Where does the Ki exist in your Aikido?? How do we create KI?
I see Ki in a, kicked football, a flying tennis ball, a frizbiee even. Where is
the/your ki?? Internal Aikido Ki!?
A small persons body can walk strait through a big strong person at the
Chudan level anytime just by walking. Walking is leverage.
“Leverage” - leverage is far more powerful than muscle power anytime, anywhere!
this is correct? Yes it is!
“Leverage” - leverage is everything!! more powerful than muscle power anytime, anywhere! this is correct? Show me where/when it isn’t.
You never use or know how to use leverage as a stand alone attack. “WALKING IS LEVERAGE!!
You don't take ballance, or use "one" centre, or drop your body weight onto the attaker.
It's all shoulders and fists.
Pick up the Boken and recognise that every Boken movement begins with an Anatomical kokyunage.
This is leverage. Start here and come back in at least one year. Avahudone!
You are showing us “grunt” Aikido. Why is that!?
Yeah but how do u pressure test it properly because people will have bruk limbs. True say
An experienced uke can politely show all the errors. And how can you do a pressure test in a situation when each fight ends in one second? 🤔
in judo class, I pressure tested a flying armbar once (bjj), as well as a stand-up ude gatame (jutaijutsu) ... I was scolded very quickly in both scenarios ... pressure testing is mostly a cope mechanism excuse from mma type of people to justify their own limitations, because as soon as you try to apply some of the techniques originating from traditional martial arts styles they supposedly make fun of ... you get called out immediately ... that alone in itself is more than enough proof that it works, if it didn't, you wouldn't be scolded for trying them out
@@SINdaBlock411 yeah well they dont them things in mma because theyde b illegal surely.
Tomiki Aikido has had a competive format for over 50 years . Most Aikido techniques go in the direction that the joint moves. The Randori No kata is the kihon for competive Aikido.
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You stopped Aikido training because you realised it's bollox. Fixed it for ya😂
But they didn’t stop aikido training…
These guys have weak minds. Aikido is a great martial art with some modifications. Oh, well, don't let the door hir you on the way out.
guess you didnt watch the video?? They discussed leaving and coming back.
@@scottcatchot1598 Oh, we'll welcome them back, but they betrayed us once - and once is something you never forget. Ask a cheated spouse.
lol a weak mind judges something before they even know what they’re talking about. Hey, that’s you!
@@divinesitcom9118 Divine sitcom, it sounds like your life is a joke bc you weren’t born very smart
There is no recognition in this video for the damage you have done to Aikido. You have associated yourselves and are associated with Rokas. Dojos like Silerdale say they are inspired by your “functional” Aikido and call things like this “sparring” th-cam.com/video/vnIkhRUFnvA/w-d-xo.html There are problems with how Aikido is practiced and many in the Aikido world don’t understand application. That is a far cry from the view that Aikido itself is defective as a self-defense art. But you are clearly associated with such voices. You can’t have it both ways. This video does not make up for that.
I have to say, as an Instructor with 40 yrs of Martial experience. I once knew a guy, who they called, "Superman" was restricted by a judge for using Kenpo against 3 Cops who were not in uniform at a Club. He claimed they had all been drinking including himself, they were obnoxious toward him, but instead of ignoring them he challenged them to shut up. Well, the trouble began as they approached him, he began to move n attack! Well, there were no winners here, of course when the cops arrived he was arrested n locked up. Of course the guys that got beat up, knew the cops that arrested him. So, when he got to the Judge, the Judge ordered him to not use Martial Arts, for 3 yrs probation, if he did, he would be locked up. So, of course he said what? How am I gonna defend myself if I get attacked? The Judge replied, looking at the size of this guy, and said learn Aikido, it's less aggressive.🤣 My point is, be careful who u beat up, it might not end well, just walk away if u can. Know the Law, before the Law knows you! Claiming Self Defense, won't justify ur actions.The same holds true with Firearms. Im just saying.
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Also, remember the Song, Coward of the County? "Promise me Son, not to do the things I've done, walk away from trouble if u can" ,...."You don't have to fight, to be a man" .…."Sometimes you have to fight if you're a Man" it's your choice.😐🇺🇸