I agree all teams in the past that have had suspicion of cheating need to have their titles removed as well ... Not just the Astros It’s only fair right!!!
People seem to forget that life will go on for a long time after we’re all gone from this earth. He makes a great point about the 1919 black Sox. If no punishment was levied, would most people really remember what happened during that time? Probably not. If you put an asterisk or remove the title from 2017, people 100 years from now will look up what happened that year and realize cheating occurred and it will never be forgotten. It’s also a good lesson for kids to never cheat.
Stephen Turner who was “accidentally shot in a case of mistaken identity in The DR”.Ive never liked Ortiz,theres always seemed to be something off about him.
If you are bored and want to have some fun...or at least some ammo against your Sox fan friends.... Look up stats from Ortiz and from Sosa, transpose names, years and teams played for, and see if they notice a difference!
Were you paying attention? Did you listen to the video? Rob Manfred's hands are tied as what he could do in terms of punishing players! And yes, Manfred still could take the title away from Houston.
@@Bigshow-jy4mq He did say that Manfred could not do anything because of the MLBPA. They told him the only way he could talk to the players was to grant immunity. How did he have a choice?
I've been saying that for years. They need to bring back scheduled double headers during the regular season like they used to back in the day. That way you'd have fewer injuries because you're not playing your regulars in both games. Plus it gives teams a chance to play the guys in the Minors that are the most ready to take the next step
Or drop it back to 154 like it was historically.....teams dont like the loss in revenue?....well then actually try to put out a major league team unlike alot of these small payroll teams.
@@Bigshow-jy4mq Not gonna happen. I don't know why people keep suggesting cutting games from the season. It's been a 162 game season since 1961. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CUT GAMES FROM THE SEASON SO STOP IT. They do not want to lose television revenue so it's a waste of time bringing it up
Everything else but his take on the Astros cheating scandal. I thought they were very weak the way he defended Manfred. Manfred didn't do his job in protecting the integrity of the game. The fix was in for 2 seasons.
Costas early days of grade school gambling and bookmaking would make an interesting story, novel, maybe a movie or series. Good lessons to learn in that.
Holy crap... Bob Costas dropping that amazing story at the end. This guys an absolute legend. Bob, what can I say except, cole me down on the panny sty
if you take the title away i believe ppl would feel better about this bc HOU will not be recognized as champions. idk how this team can show their faces for 162 every team despise them.
@@nikantropov3165 yeah he should have been do that from the start. the investigation to me looks lazy no effort. all he did was fine HOU owner Jim Crane. no Astros players were punished and that is the reason why so many around MLB is pissed off.
Not a chance that Manfred takes away the championship. His job depends on support from the owners, not the players. Taking away the championship would result in at least one owner (Jim Crane) pissed at Manfred and wanting him out of the job.
@@2011blueman using ur logic....whats he gonna do with the other 29 owners? .....hell all he needs is 20 owners to be pissed at his terrible job lately and hes out a job.....baseballs a thinking mans game...perhaps u should watch something else then.
The fact that people as prominent as Costas are saying that the players not being punished is fine is beyond me. Yeah they have to deal with the backlash but that emotional punishment isn’t enough. I’m not saying I know what to do to them but something needs to be done. They got away scot free.
This is for the man that called the trophy a piece of metal, I did some flash back on TH-cam, u know how many grown men, players and fans was crying on the 1996 world series.,winners and losers, alike ,wade Boggs, when I watched it live..and saw wade Boggs in tears I started crying , Boggs on the police horse, wow, Joe Torre in tears ..that piece of metal its what they fight for all year....and they feel that way because they fought for it and they earned it!! I play ball thur little league all the the way till class A. The commission could call it a piece metal because he never play ball......he dont care ..fix this ,take the trophy back and Spare the bloodshed... And let's get back to this beautiful game we called baseball.
The Playoff format is fine don’t change the system. Baseball doesn’t need have half the teams in the game like hockey and basketball where they can even be teams under 500 in the playoffs
I don’t have a big problem with 7 playoff teams. I just think that they should write-in two rules so: 1) if any of the poor wildcard teams doesn’t have a winning record they have to forfeit their ability to play in the playoffs. So they’d give their first round opponent a bye. 2) In the first round, have the better team potentially advance in a best of one. But the worse team must win a best of 3. So one of the weaker team’s two wins must be the first game in order to advance. Or else make it a best of 5 series but allow the higher ranked team to advance if they win 2 of the first 3. So the weaker team must win a best of 5 and also win 2 of the first 3 games. That’s a much fairer advantage to the better team than home field advantage. Plus it would allow for more exciting elimination games early in the series.
I was a mariner fan as a kid Griffey, A-rod, Johnson, I hated costas so much Jeter would get a single and it was like they won the World Series, Griffey hit a grand slam and he would call it as bland as a piece of plain grilled chicken. Anyways I’ve grown to love him and the Yankees as I’ve aged, and I thought that story was hysterical. Bob costas running a sports book at school.
@Sean P- Wishful thinking. The owners would never subscribe to that. They'd lose money. The more games that are broadcast on the National Networks the more revenue. It's all about the television revenue
@@josephbell2160 I know i watched the interview but the only way to expand the playoffs then is to start Spring Training in February which i think they cannot do due to the collective bargaining agreement
OMG Bob Costas is “connected”? And a bookie oh my goodness I think you might be getting close the the “glass house line”. Great story Bob deep bro. 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Ps. Please bring back the annual hall of fame game and make it a real regular season game that counts. If you can have regular season games in London and other around the world places then you surely should be able to have a game or series in Cooperstown this is after all the birthplace of the game
The punishment should be that for all away games the Astros pitchers need to tip their pitches and let the other team know what’s coming the whole season. Then we’ll see if their was an advantage and whether or not to vacate the title
Big Papi, you’re a legendary player and a class act, don’t jump on the shit head band wagon .. it is what it is and you should be glad that someone that was honest came forward and exposed the Astros 😳
I still have to think that it could of been stopped earlier by someone going to the media and not just attempting to handle it internally. Or it's just widespread and everyone does it to some degree.
Why does everyone say it would be a precedent to vacate the World Series? The World Series was vacated in '95. Same here. There should be no Champion for 2017.
On the subject of changing the playoff format and not losing regular season games and maintaining the integrity of the season. What about for every post season game added remove a regular season game? Doesn't that keep everything equal and revenue is not lost? Baseball can't afford to go any later in the year due to the weather in certain cities.
I would strip the Asterisks of the 2017 title, take back the trophy, take back the rings, take back the $476K each player got as a bonus for "winning" the 2017 World Series, take down the banner, rewrite the OFFICIAL MLB record books to show the 2017 World Series result as "Vacated due to cheating by the Houston Astros". And if the 2018 Red "handed" Sox investigation comes back the same way, give them the same punishment I'm proposing for the Asterisks.
Only after MLB investigates the ENTIRE LEAGUE for sign stealing. There were eight other teams that had sign stealing systems. Also, take the WS titles away from every MLB team that had ANY JUICED PLAYERS, including the NY YANKEES!
These guys vastly underestimate technology. You could easily do a buzzer system on an individual level. All you need is a high tech wireless camera in the outfield seats. Then you send that video feed to your buddy in a box, across the street in a hotel, etc who has a laptop setup and sends the buzzes in real time. That or you code your own program to read the fingers and send the buzzers in cutting out the middle man on a laptop. We have autonomous cars, reading and decoding single digit codes is a piece of cake to these computer programmers. We need to remove visual cues in baseball, technology has passed it by. Time for microphones to give in the pitch like NFL QBs get. Baseball guys are stuck in the past.
So why not give the pitcher the buzzer remote and strap the buzzer to the catcher (or vice versa) and they can relay the pitch without finger signals. It's almost like the finger signals is the out dated part that's getting everything messed up. Relaying the info another way would be ideal.
@@lindamcdaniel2419 Which to me is dumb if they don't. They used to have regularly scheduled double headers back in the 70 s and 80 s and there were way fewer injuries. I hope they bring it back
this to me is worse then the steroid era at least that era we saw punishments. whether you can't get in the HOF/suspensions the Astros got nothing but a fine and 2 employees fired. smh
Those penalties were NOT SEVERE, THEY WERE A COMPLETE JOKE. No fines,no suspensions, a Billionaire owner gets fined 5 million dollars which is nothing to him, a couple coaches lost their jobs (whoopty doo).They BANNED the Black Sox for cheating.Same should apply for the Astros,what they did was worse than Pete Rose or the Black Sox.
They aren’t allowed to fine an owner more than 5 million dollars they have a cba dumbass. Players were granted immunity Through the damn mlbpa. I just wish the title was stripped
MovieClips You are correct I misspoke.Throwing a game to profit from it however is just the opposite side of using technology that gives you a huge advantage that the opponent has no defense against.Different sides of the same cheating coin,one you’re trying to win the other you’re trying to lose.What the Astros did in my opinion was worse because the Black Sox affected the outcome of a few games against themselves,the cheating the Astros engaged in affected every team they played against.Thats a much bigger impact on the game if you ask me.
I disagree with Costas. Managers and front office people will just play stupid and claim a lack of knowledge in the future to avoid punishment. At the very least they’ll make an effort to not know. It’s called plausible deniability. Corporations and other organizations do this all the time in order to avoid liability. MLB needs to vacate the WS.
Why not have the Astros release the cheaters (with pay) and don't have any team sign them. I don't think players want to play with or against them. Blacklist. If the alternative was to remove the Astros owner from the league like they did in the NBA, then the Astros owner would be willing to do this instead to keep his ownership every day of the week. It will only take the owner 3 years to rebuild the team back to .500. It allows the fans in Houston to keep their trophy. It avoids opening Pandora's box when it comes to reversing championships, awards, each games outcome in history. The cheaters should of been banned for life but given the memo issue that wasn't an option. This is a work around that allows to to achieve that goal Manfred said he wanted in an ideal world.
Then the Red Sox have to do the same with their WS team meaning the Dodgers would have to say bye bye to Mookie Betts! And all the Yankees fans who claim the Astros were still cheating last year (which they were not and they still got to game 7) have to give up Garrett Cole. After all, if you're saying the Astros cheated to beat the Yankees for the AL title, then you're saying Cole cheated too!
So the Astros suspected other teams were cheating. So, I suppose that is another justification for their cheating? Also, the baseball season is already long. Make it longer?
Bob Costas is so smart, but his logic behind “the players have faced some repercussions Bc going forward, managers will never put their careers in jeopardy” really does nothing. What’s that have to do w the scum who’s carried out the act prior?
If this is the case, and they are going to get away with this, so Pete Rose can be in the Hall of Fame, and all those players that cheated using steroids.
The fact that Michael Kay thinks MLB should have as many playoff teams as NFL shows he doesn’t understand baseball and what makes a pennant race exciting.
Costas: You believe the word of the astros saying they think other teams may have been doing it too. Here's another apologist. Also, the trophy could be taken away if this season descends into chaos.
Eveyone in baseball would happily pay those penalties for a title. Chump change to win titles. Fire a few folks and take a fine...hello world championship.
If you don't take the title and the banner away...... ban them from the postseason for 5 years... player can have immunity, no suspension you can play all the regular season but no postseason.... that will deterrent the next teams to cheat ..
They are going to get punished throughout the season. A lot of teams that are not okay with it will throw at them even with a harsh suspension or fine because of it. Houston will take a small step back in wins without Cole. Their bullpen lost pieces, and their rotation got weaker.
In regards to this playoff nonsense please please please stop 🛑 it’s currently a great system it’s not broken so don’t try to fix it this nonsense is going to seriously devalue the regular season the current one game wild card is perfect as it keeps teams playing hard to win there division knowing that they have a series ahead of them vs the danger of losing a one game wild card and furthermore let’s not allow any more teams into the playoffs this isn’t the nba or nhl etc. I mean really what’s next? Maybe just put every team in the playoffs ? Please please please stop 🛑 messing with this great game
For gawd sake, what has to happen in order for the commissioner to set precedent and vacate the title!?? THIS IS THE SCANDAL WHERE YOU SET PRECEDENT!! MLB has a brainless commissioner. He needs to be fired!! And #stripthetitle
It's almost like there's a concerted effort to absolve Manfred of his inaction. These guys keep on harping on their belief that the only thing that will give players and fans solace is to punish the Astros players directly. There's a million ways to skin a cat but Manfred decided not to do anything. Stop with the smoke and mirrors! No one is falling for that stuff. If he can't do his job, he needs to go.
So Yankees fans, Girardi says that he used a similar video system to steal signs while with the Yankees. So, stealing the signs some of the time using video is ok? As long as you don't do it all of the time......Is that about right?
Michael H. What. Can you Link me to this story please . Lol. Houston trash
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Michael H. Girardi was talking about how the Yankees caught another team cheating if you watch the full clip and not the 20 sec bs clip that people are sharing
Ortiz, Mendoza and Martinez made their bed. BTW, they are all associated wit the Red Sox. Just saying! For these people "Omerta" is better than the integrity of the sport. Sorry but Ortiz should have shut up this time. I agree with you guys on this one.
....precedent has been set....lose a coach and gm for a World Series a ring and bonuses ....easy decision - I would do it again...go MLB players...dirty or not, money is money and hardware is hardware....
Good thing Bob Costas isn't the commissioner. He's the same politician Rob Manfred is. Very weak takes by Costas on the severity of the Astros cheating and it sounds like he knows Manfred personally by the way he defended him.
An investigator needs to look into what Cheater in Chief and sign stealing mastermind/maestro, CARLOS BELTRAN, did when he was with the Yankees, the team he was with right before and right after his one season with the Astros! When he came to Houston Beltran told his new teammates that their sign stealing methods were "behind the times"!
Strip the title. No pennant, no rings. All gone.
Fans and players need to start petitions to remove the title and for the resignation of the commissioner.
That's right
I totally agree.
I agree all teams in the past that have had suspicion of cheating need to have their titles removed as well ... Not just the Astros
It’s only fair right!!!
@@carlosdimas313 shut up u idiot.....the astros went to a whole new level to cheat.
Maybe start a petition to for a salary cap. Yankees,Red Sox and Dodgers are the biggest abusers. Same as cheating.
People seem to forget that life will go on for a long time after we’re all gone from this earth. He makes a great point about the 1919 black Sox. If no punishment was levied, would most people really remember what happened during that time? Probably not. If you put an asterisk or remove the title from 2017, people 100 years from now will look up what happened that year and realize cheating occurred and it will never be forgotten. It’s also a good lesson for kids to never cheat.
STRIP THE TITLE 🇺🇸⚓️
'Snitch' is a term used by criminals.
Like Ortiz
@@jeremy745 a known PED user
Stephen Turner who was “accidentally shot in a case of mistaken identity in The DR”.Ive never liked Ortiz,theres always seemed to be something off about him.
If you are bored and want to have some fun...or at least some ammo against your Sox fan friends....
Look up stats from Ortiz and from Sosa, transpose names, years and teams played for, and see if they notice a difference!
@@nickr3441 who are you?
The commissioner needs to go
Were you paying attention? Did you listen to the video? Rob Manfred's hands are tied as what he could do in terms of punishing players! And yes, Manfred still could take the title away from Houston.
@@thecpagenius171 and were u.listening? Its not that his hands were tied, its that he didn't even try.
@@Bigshow-jy4mq He did say that Manfred could not do anything because of the MLBPA. They told him the only way he could talk to the players was to grant immunity. How did he have a choice?
Keep it at 162. If you want to expand the playoffs just add double headers to create space on the calendar.
I've been saying that for years. They need to bring back scheduled double headers during the regular season like they used to back in the day. That way you'd have fewer injuries because you're not playing your regulars in both games. Plus it gives teams a chance to play the guys in the Minors that are the most ready to take the next step
Or drop it back to 154 like it was historically.....teams dont like the loss in revenue?....well then actually try to put out a major league team unlike alot of these small payroll teams.
@@Bigshow-jy4mq Not gonna happen. I don't know why people keep suggesting cutting games from the season. It's been a 162 game season since 1961. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CUT GAMES FROM THE SEASON SO STOP IT. They do not want to lose television revenue so it's a waste of time bringing it up
It's not snitching, it's whistle blowing.
same thing...whistle blowing just sounds "legally sound"
Actually, I believe it's called ratting out.
Friers owes the Astros nothing. Therefore, it’s not snitching. It’s doing the right thing.
@@davidalonso933
Puss, he cheated then he snitched
@@afternooncicada only rats get 'ratted out'
Can listen to Bob Costas all day every day and twice on Sunday's.
Everything else but his take on the Astros cheating scandal. I thought they were very weak the way he defended Manfred. Manfred didn't do his job in protecting the integrity of the game. The fix was in for 2 seasons.
I really like Bob Costas, I really respect his opinion and he's usually right on the money. I really enjoy listening to his point of view.
Strip the title.
Strip the title and,and close the case,everyone will be happy and no more talk about Houston cheating.
It's not just Houston. Boston cheated in 18-19 to that WS. Both need to be stripped and given to the dodgers.
Love Bob Costas. Class act and genius sports guy!
I like Costas but his takes on this cheating scandal were weak by the way he defended Manfred.
His story at the end with his dad was great. Great interview. Costas is a legend for sure.
Costas early days of grade school gambling and bookmaking would make an interesting story, novel, maybe a movie or series. Good lessons to learn in that.
This Costas interview is from 2/12. Why was it just posted yesterday?
That was a good story at the end.
Holy crap... Bob Costas dropping that amazing story at the end. This guys an absolute legend. Bob, what can I say except, cole me down on the panny sty
Bob was very fun to listen too on this one. Really caught my attention
if you take the title away i believe ppl would feel better about this bc HOU will not be recognized as champions. idk how this team can show their faces for 162 every team despise them.
I agree. If Manfred wants this to go away or subside, taking the title away will significantly help
@@nikantropov3165 yeah he should have been do that from the start. the investigation to me looks lazy no effort. all he did was fine HOU owner Jim Crane. no Astros players were punished and that is the reason why so many around MLB is pissed off.
So true.
Not a chance that Manfred takes away the championship. His job depends on support from the owners, not the players. Taking away the championship would result in at least one owner (Jim Crane) pissed at Manfred and wanting him out of the job.
@@2011blueman using ur logic....whats he gonna do with the other 29 owners? .....hell all he needs is 20 owners to be pissed at his terrible job lately and hes out a job.....baseballs a thinking mans game...perhaps u should watch something else then.
The fact that people as prominent as Costas are saying that the players not being punished is fine is beyond me. Yeah they have to deal with the backlash but that emotional punishment isn’t enough. I’m not saying I know what to do to them but something needs to be done. They got away scot free.
Bob Costas is a blessing!
This is for the man that called the trophy a piece of metal, I did some flash back on TH-cam, u know how many grown men, players and fans was crying on the 1996 world series.,winners and losers, alike ,wade Boggs, when I watched it live..and saw wade Boggs in tears I started crying , Boggs on the police horse, wow, Joe Torre in tears ..that piece of metal its what they fight for all year....and they feel that way because they fought for it and they earned it!! I play ball thur little league all the the way till class A. The commission could call it a piece metal because he never play ball......he dont care ..fix this ,take the trophy back and Spare the bloodshed... And let's get back to this beautiful game we called baseball.
Bob is so fuckin funny. His story at the end was killin me
I think zOrtiz’s comment was out of line. The man who came forward did the right thing. Better late than never.
Ortiz he better shut up,what about when his name was mention on ped,
The Title should be vacated and the Commissioner should be fired for how it has been handled.
YES HE HAS TO GO
Bob Costas my hero for giving up gambling!
The Playoff format is fine don’t change the system. Baseball doesn’t need have half the teams in the game like hockey and basketball where they can even be teams under 500 in the playoffs
I don’t have a big problem with 7 playoff teams. I just think that they should write-in two rules so:
1) if any of the poor wildcard teams doesn’t have a winning record they have to forfeit their ability to play in the playoffs. So they’d give their first round opponent a bye.
2) In the first round, have the better team potentially advance in a best of one. But the worse team must win a best of 3. So one of the weaker team’s two wins must be the first game in order to advance. Or else make it a best of 5 series but allow the higher ranked team to advance if they win 2 of the first 3. So the weaker team must win a best of 5 and also win 2 of the first 3 games.
That’s a much fairer advantage to the better team than home field advantage.
Plus it would allow for more exciting elimination games early in the series.
Bob Costas is the best
I was a mariner fan as a kid Griffey, A-rod, Johnson, I hated costas so much Jeter would get a single and it was like they won the World Series, Griffey hit a grand slam and he would call it as bland as a piece of plain grilled chicken. Anyways I’ve grown to love him and the Yankees as I’ve aged, and I thought that story was hysterical. Bob costas running a sports book at school.
Bob costas should relaunch nba on nbc
Just like in college you earned the grade that you deserved not the grade you wanted to be.
Vacate the title with no winner in 2017.
If Baseball is to expand the playoffs then they should shrink the season to 152 to 156 games
@Sean P- Wishful thinking. The owners would never subscribe to that. They'd lose money. The more games that are broadcast on the National Networks the more revenue. It's all about the television revenue
@@josephbell2160 I know i watched the interview but the only way to expand the playoffs then is to start Spring Training in February which i think they cannot do due to the collective bargaining agreement
@@seanr8909 I think they should consider it(STARTING SPRING TRAINING GAMES IN FEBRUARY) when the next CBA is up for renewal
Lmao 😆 nobody gives AF about Peter
Why does Peter usually look the kid that is visiting their father at work, sitting on the side during his fathers meeting
“I wanted to have you on.” No fool, you were lucky to have Bob Costas on.
OMG Bob Costas is “connected”? And a bookie oh my goodness I think you might be getting close the the “glass house line”. Great story Bob deep bro. 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Bob, did Barry Bonds steal a world series championship??
The Island Division no but he was coached by Dusty Baker 🇺🇸⚓️
Ps. Please bring back the annual hall of fame game and make it a real regular season game that counts. If you can have regular season games in London and other around the world places then you surely should be able to have a game or series in Cooperstown this is after all the birthplace of the game
The punishment should be that for all away games the Astros pitchers need to tip their pitches and let the other team know what’s coming the whole season. Then we’ll see if their was an advantage and whether or not to vacate the title
How in the hell does Bob still have black hair. LaRussa hair almost looks natural next to Bob.
Why didn't you ask him about the Apple Watch Story? Or invite Chris Young on the show instead of Bob.
If they cut the season in half I would not lose any sleep
The playoff field doesn't need to be expanded. Just make the WC game a 3 game series and I'm good
Same here
Big Papi, you’re a legendary player and a class act, don’t jump on the shit head band wagon .. it is what it is and you should be glad that someone that was honest came forward and exposed the Astros 😳
So why not give the pitcher the buzzer remote and strap the buzzer to the catcher (or vice versa) and they can relay the pitch without finger signals.
Suspended all players in that Astros team the last five years
21:00 Heavy stuff
Biggest Crock as pot smoking, sportsbooks and Wall Street has it's way.
Vacating the title will serve multiple purposes and will significantly lower the temperature so to speak.
I still have to think that it could of been stopped earlier by someone going to the media and not just attempting to handle it internally. Or it's just widespread and everyone does it to some degree.
Why does everyone say it would be a precedent to vacate the World Series? The World Series was vacated in '95. Same here. There should be no Champion for 2017.
438,000 dollars per players to win the World Series that is insane and they should be punish big time.
On the subject of changing the playoff format and not losing regular season games and maintaining the integrity of the season. What about for every post season game added remove a regular season game? Doesn't that keep everything equal and revenue is not lost? Baseball can't afford to go any later in the year due to the weather in certain cities.
I would strip the Asterisks of the 2017 title, take back the trophy, take back the rings, take back the $476K each player got as a bonus for "winning" the 2017 World Series, take down the banner, rewrite the OFFICIAL MLB record books to show the 2017 World Series result as "Vacated due to cheating by the Houston Astros". And if the 2018 Red "handed" Sox investigation comes back the same way, give them the same punishment I'm proposing for the Asterisks.
Only after MLB investigates the ENTIRE LEAGUE for sign stealing. There were eight other teams that had sign stealing systems.
Also, take the WS titles away from every MLB team that had ANY JUICED PLAYERS, including the NY YANKEES!
Well you could also just start the season a week or two early.. I wouldn’t complain about that
The same players association defending the Astros better defend the players that will undoubtedly throw pitches at their ribs.
These guys vastly underestimate technology. You could easily do a buzzer system on an individual level. All you need is a high tech wireless camera in the outfield seats. Then you send that video feed to your buddy in a box, across the street in a hotel, etc who has a laptop setup and sends the buzzes in real time. That or you code your own program to read the fingers and send the buzzers in cutting out the middle man on a laptop. We have autonomous cars, reading and decoding single digit codes is a piece of cake to these computer programmers. We need to remove visual cues in baseball, technology has passed it by. Time for microphones to give in the pitch like NFL QBs get. Baseball guys are stuck in the past.
So why not give the pitcher the buzzer remote and strap the buzzer to the catcher (or vice versa) and they can relay the pitch without finger signals. It's almost like the finger signals is the out dated part that's getting everything messed up. Relaying the info another way would be ideal.
Keep it at 162 and implement mandated double headers to save scheduling space.
John Goedecke That is never going to happen.Player union won’t allow it.
@@lindamcdaniel2419 Which to me is dumb if they don't. They used to have regularly scheduled double headers back in the 70 s and 80 s and there were way fewer injuries. I hope they bring it back
Joseph Bell Agreed,I love double headers due to cancelled games.
The only reason Hinch "regrets " this is because he got caught.
this to me is worse then the steroid era at least that era we saw punishments. whether you can't get in the HOF/suspensions the Astros got nothing but a fine and 2 employees fired. smh
That bob guy talks more than me on cocaine
Those penalties were NOT SEVERE, THEY WERE A COMPLETE JOKE. No fines,no suspensions, a Billionaire owner gets fined 5 million dollars which is nothing to him, a couple coaches lost their jobs (whoopty doo).They BANNED the Black Sox for cheating.Same should apply for the Astros,what they did was worse than Pete Rose or the Black Sox.
They aren’t allowed to fine an owner more than 5 million dollars they have a cba dumbass. Players were granted immunity Through the damn mlbpa. I just wish the title was stripped
MovieClips You are correct I misspoke.Throwing a game to profit from it however is just the opposite side of using technology that gives you a huge advantage that the opponent has no defense against.Different sides of the same cheating coin,one you’re trying to win the other you’re trying to lose.What the Astros did in my opinion was worse because the Black Sox affected the outcome of a few games against themselves,the cheating the Astros engaged in affected every team they played against.Thats a much bigger impact on the game if you ask me.
Can anyone explain to me why it’s so widely accepted that David Ortiz will make it into the hall of fame?
GO ASTROS
Can’t take away the moment!
#HTownTillWeDrown
Caleb Jaquette u already drowned
Take the TIN away
I disagree with Costas. Managers and front office people will just play stupid and claim a lack of knowledge in the future to avoid punishment. At the very least they’ll make an effort to not know. It’s called plausible deniability. Corporations and other organizations do this all the time in order to avoid liability. MLB needs to vacate the WS.
Why not have the Astros release the cheaters (with pay) and don't have any team sign them. I don't think players want to play with or against them. Blacklist.
If the alternative was to remove the Astros owner from the league like they did in the NBA, then the Astros owner would be willing to do this instead to keep his ownership every day of the week. It will only take the owner 3 years to rebuild the team back to .500. It allows the fans in Houston to keep their trophy. It avoids opening Pandora's box when it comes to reversing championships, awards, each games outcome in history. The cheaters should of been banned for life but given the memo issue that wasn't an option. This is a work around that allows to to achieve that goal Manfred said he wanted in an ideal world.
Is this a serious resolution of yours?
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Then the Red Sox have to do the same with their WS team meaning the Dodgers would have to say bye bye to Mookie Betts! And all the Yankees fans who claim the Astros were still cheating last year (which they were not and they still got to game 7) have to give up Garrett Cole. After all, if you're saying the Astros cheated to beat the Yankees for the AL title, then you're saying Cole cheated too!
can they lose Peter and call it the “Michael and Don Show “ ?
Lol I dont want to hate but 90 percent of the time he seems very disinterested (looking at phone etc.)
Some media Jew gave him the job out of nepotism. He's not losing it any time soon.
Houston bomb
Guess what they received an F that lead to a clear dismissal from plagiarism.
The commissioner need to resign...
Ortiz was salty because he was a huge cheater too.
That's right Ortiz was on ped
Bob, If your cleaning ladies don't do a good job, you find another crew. Just clean it up.
Costas works for MLB. He is doing nationwide damage control.
So the Astros suspected other teams were cheating. So, I suppose that is another justification for their cheating? Also, the baseball season is already long. Make it longer?
Bob Costas is so smart, but his logic behind “the players have faced some repercussions Bc going forward, managers will never put their careers in jeopardy” really does nothing. What’s that have to do w the scum who’s carried out the act prior?
If this is the case, and they are going to get away with this, so Pete Rose can be in the Hall of Fame, and all those players that cheated using steroids.
Were the Astros the only team? Red Sox in 2018? Someone sell me a bridge..
The fact that Michael Kay thinks MLB should have as many playoff teams as NFL shows he doesn’t understand baseball and what makes a pennant race exciting.
Costas: You believe the word of the astros saying they think other teams may have been doing it too. Here's another apologist. Also, the trophy could be taken away if this season descends into chaos.
Costas,its 2020, stop pointing out the phenomena of the internet and twitter.
Can you guys talk about something other than Houston sheesh.
Eveyone in baseball would happily pay those penalties for a title. Chump change to win titles. Fire a few folks and take a fine...hello world championship.
If you don't take the title and the banner away...... ban them from the postseason for 5 years... player can have immunity, no suspension you can play all the regular season but no postseason.... that will deterrent the next teams to cheat ..
They are going to get punished throughout the season. A lot of teams that are not okay with it will throw at them even with a harsh suspension or fine because of it. Houston will take a small step back in wins without Cole. Their bullpen lost pieces, and their rotation got weaker.
Cole sucked before he came to the Astros and he might suck now that he's left.
All the Yankees fans who claim the Astros cheated this last season WITH Cole have to either give Cole up (because he cheated) or STFU!
In regards to this playoff nonsense please please please stop 🛑 it’s currently a great system it’s not broken so don’t try to fix it this nonsense is going to seriously devalue the regular season the current one game wild card is perfect as it keeps teams playing hard to win there division knowing that they have a series ahead of them vs the danger of losing a one game wild card and furthermore let’s not allow any more teams into the playoffs this isn’t the nba or nhl etc. I mean really what’s next? Maybe just put every team in the playoffs ? Please please please stop 🛑 messing with this great game
Ortiz is campaigning for the Red Sox not getting any punishment.
What about Pete Rose? What a fucking joke to not take the title away…
For gawd sake, what has to happen in order for the commissioner to set precedent and vacate the title!?? THIS IS THE SCANDAL WHERE YOU SET PRECEDENT!! MLB has a brainless commissioner. He needs to be fired!! And #stripthetitle
Take it away from them they didn’t earn that grades.
Bull Costas!!!!!!
So Costas is on the side of the owners regarding the playoffs. For the owners it's all about $$$$$$$$! GREED!!!!!!!
It's almost like there's a concerted effort to absolve Manfred of his inaction. These guys keep on harping on their belief that the only thing that will give players and fans solace is to punish the Astros players directly. There's a million ways to skin a cat but Manfred decided not to do anything. Stop with the smoke and mirrors! No one is falling for that stuff. If he can't do his job, he needs to go.
So Yankees fans, Girardi says that he used a similar video system to steal signs while with the Yankees. So, stealing the signs some of the time using video is ok? As long as you don't do it all of the time......Is that about right?
Michael H. What. Can you Link me to this story please . Lol. Houston trash
Michael H. Girardi was talking about how the Yankees caught another team cheating if you watch the full clip and not the 20 sec bs clip that people are sharing
@ So, is stealing signs cheating?
Only content creators still care
Where is the punishment for past misdeeds i.e. cheating????? Bob you are wrong.
Ortiz, Mendoza and Martinez made their bed. BTW, they are all associated wit the Red Sox. Just saying! For these people "Omerta" is better than the integrity of the sport. Sorry but Ortiz should have shut up this time. I agree with you guys on this one.
....precedent has been set....lose a coach and gm for a World Series a ring and bonuses ....easy decision - I would do it again...go MLB players...dirty or not, money is money and hardware is hardware....
Good thing Bob Costas isn't the commissioner. He's the same politician Rob Manfred is. Very weak takes by Costas on the severity of the Astros cheating and it sounds like he knows Manfred personally by the way he defended him.
A private investigator needs to start looking into Manfred and crain. Something isn't right here
Let Trump tweet it an Barr will will do it
An investigator needs to look into what Cheater in Chief and sign stealing mastermind/maestro, CARLOS BELTRAN, did when he was with the Yankees, the team he was with right before and right after his one season with the Astros! When he came to Houston Beltran told his new teammates that their sign stealing methods were "behind the times"!