Very interesting info. Question. At about 1:03 you recommended using a REC 709 LUT as a custom LUT inside the GH5 while shooting V-Log. Would it be ok to use the REC 709 LUT that comes native with Premiere Pro
Cool 🙌 i want to know one thing...that is like..so we need to color grade first all clips or later like after editing if we want to edit clips in after effects for some cool visual effect?
You said that you do not like to add another layer over number 3 but I didn't understand why? Can you please explain why you went back to making a layer between 1 and 2?
Getting sick of every tutorial requiring a paid LUT. The color settings can be observed when a LUT is applied, so this would be an nice way to show us the fundamental settings to understand how the color space is being transformed (plus other adjustments) rather than applying a LUT without know what it's actually doing behind the scenes.
Check out Waqas Qazi. He actually color grades footage in stead of applying LUTs. There's also a good color grading chapter in the Blackmagic Design video series/tutorial on Da Vinci Resolve.
Actually, most do for color Managment. They use the LUT for conversions (a more accurate way than correcting from scratch) because of its accuracy for matching cameras, etc.
At 8:18 you use a layer node for the qualifier, but you don't do anything with the layer below the key. Why use a layer node is you don't do anything with the layer below it?
I’m keeping things separated, in the case that I would want to change something prior, later on. With me, I’m always building my node tree for the future. Nothing is worse, than having to go back and change something, where this way, I have a layer below. Especially when qualifying. I hope that makes sense
Great Video! Did you come across the situation that some color pixels/noise showed up in skin and light color area after grading the vlog footage? I found it so annoying to get it fixed. Especially shooting in 8-bit.
I get this too, awful pixels of colour especially in skin and gradient areas that it seems 8-bit fails to have detail for. Usually harsh pink in skin tones with just the standard LUT when applied to V-Log. Especially bad in Premiere so I tried Davinci Resolve with exactly the same LUT and it was nowhere near as bad but still there.
You might not be exposing the skin tones properly. They need to fall between 40-70IRE. Nothing more or less. Also try not to increase the ISO above 800. You start loosing Stops in dynamic range.
I have a gh5s and am trying to master v-log, I shoot small real estate and need help- what aperture, shutter speed and iso should I have it set at? Should I keep aperture at lowest point (2.8) always, and then adjust just iso? What do I do with the shutter speed? Please help and thank you!!!
Sounds like you need to get the fundamentals down before worrying about v-log. As for the exposure settings, a good rule of thumb is to adjust your aperture first so you can decide how much background blur there is, then adjust your ISO to dial in the exposure (but too high on ISO will cause grainy footage). Shutter speed should (almost) always be set to double your frame rate (fps). Ex: if you are shooting at 24 frames per second, you want 1/48 sec shutter speed, or as close to that as possible. If shooting at 30fps, then 1/60th sec shutter speed, etc.
@@CameronGallagher I feel the problem with the V-Log on the GH5 is that it is not a proper V-Log from their Cinecameras but a slightly modified Logcurve with clipped highlights, to match the GH5/s's sensors. So overexposing results in clipped highlights in my experience
Hey so which package do I need to access the LUT you used to convert V-Log to Rec709? If I pay the subscription once and not maintain it can I still keep the LUTs?
If you download convert V6 you can transcode it to pro res 422 which will work in the free version of resolve. I have a video on my channel about it :)
Yes and no. The main point is the change the color space, then to correct underneath for any changes. You could always get s GH5 LUT but id be cautious
Damn dude... you're a color grading wizard. I stick to a quick shadows, highlights, and mids adjustment then lay my grade over and all it a day LOL. I don't have the patience for it! I'd be stoked if you took a few seconds to check out my latest video and drop a comment about your thoughts. We go through out whole video setup, backpack and all. Clean video dude, well done! Keep it up! -new sub
it's basically better to grade from scratch just for the pure fact that all these people make you give your email and sign up for their dumb ass shit and the LUT ends up costing money
Thanks for the color Management part,I been so confuse on what to set the color space etc
Very interesting! And what about using the built in resolve log to 709 lut?
Very interesting info. Question. At about 1:03 you recommended using a REC 709 LUT as a custom LUT inside the GH5 while shooting V-Log. Would it be ok to use the REC 709 LUT that comes native with Premiere Pro
Cool 🙌 i want to know one thing...that is like..so we need to color grade first all clips or later like after editing if we want to edit clips in after effects for some cool visual effect?
You said that you do not like to add another layer over number 3 but I didn't understand why? Can you please explain why you went back to making a layer between 1 and 2?
Getting sick of every tutorial requiring a paid LUT. The color settings can be observed when a LUT is applied, so this would be an nice way to show us the fundamental settings to understand how the color space is being transformed (plus other adjustments) rather than applying a LUT without know what it's actually doing behind the scenes.
Check out Waqas Qazi. He actually color grades footage in stead of applying LUTs. There's also a good color grading chapter in the Blackmagic Design video series/tutorial on Da Vinci Resolve.
Besides you never supposed to use LUT. This is a simple little cms job.
Actually LUTS are almost ALWAYS used in the process. Check any American Cinematographer magazine! They are ESSENTIAL in most workflows!
@@CameronGallagher not for color managment. For OOTF (artistic intent) or it may be used for calibration whether on camera or on display.
Actually, most do for color Managment. They use the LUT for conversions (a more accurate way than correcting from scratch) because of its accuracy for matching cameras, etc.
At 8:18 you use a layer node for the qualifier, but you don't do anything with the layer below the key. Why use a layer node is you don't do anything with the layer below it?
I’m keeping things separated, in the case that I would want to change something prior, later on. With me, I’m always building my node tree for the future. Nothing is worse, than having to go back and change something, where this way, I have a layer below. Especially when qualifying. I hope that makes sense
Hi! have you used the Color Space Transform? How would you set it up for V-log?
V-log and V-gamut. As the metadata in the file says.
In Davinci Resolve there is the LUT V-LOG to Rec709. Shouldn't be used VLOG-L to Rec709 instead?
Look into metadata on the file.
gawd dammit. I downloaded and installed the LUTs and in the 3D Luts folder there is no Utility Luts folder it's Color Grading and Monitoring
Great Video! Did you come across the situation that some color pixels/noise showed up in skin and light color area after grading the vlog footage? I found it so annoying to get it fixed. Especially shooting in 8-bit.
DO NOT shoot Vlog in 8 bit. There isn't enough data to manipulate when you color grade. You must use 10 bit, 4:2:2 on the GH5.
Not true at all, I shoot 8-but VLOG almost EVERY shoot and it always looks great!
I get this too, awful pixels of colour especially in skin and gradient areas that it seems 8-bit fails to have detail for. Usually harsh pink in skin tones with just the standard LUT when applied to V-Log. Especially bad in Premiere so I tried Davinci Resolve with exactly the same LUT and it was nowhere near as bad but still there.
You might not be exposing the skin tones properly. They need to fall between 40-70IRE. Nothing more or less. Also try not to increase the ISO above 800. You start loosing Stops in dynamic range.
I have a gh5s and am trying to master v-log, I shoot small real estate and need help- what aperture, shutter speed and iso should I have it set at? Should I keep aperture at lowest point (2.8) always, and then adjust just iso? What do I do with the shutter speed? Please help and thank you!!!
Sounds like you need to get the fundamentals down before worrying about v-log. As for the exposure settings, a good rule of thumb is to adjust your aperture first so you can decide how much background blur there is, then adjust your ISO to dial in the exposure (but too high on ISO will cause grainy footage). Shutter speed should (almost) always be set to double your frame rate (fps). Ex: if you are shooting at 24 frames per second, you want 1/48 sec shutter speed, or as close to that as possible. If shooting at 30fps, then 1/60th sec shutter speed, etc.
Underexposed vlog with high frame rates becomes SUPER NOISY
Very true!! I always recommend exposing properly, or slightly over!
@@CameronGallagher How would you recommend to overexpose vlog? Do you use waveform?
@@CameronGallagher I feel the problem with the V-Log on the GH5 is that it is not a proper V-Log from their Cinecameras but a slightly modified Logcurve with clipped highlights, to match the GH5/s's sensors. So overexposing results in clipped highlights in my experience
Thanks for the tutorial. Do you guys usually grade each clip in Resolve and then import them to AP/FCP and start editing then?
its done the opposite way. Edit video, export XML, open resolve, import footage, open XML, Grade, Export
I usually finish my edit, my final cut, and then export to Davinci to grade, after grading you send back to PR and add effects
I can edit footage from my GH5 on Davinci, apparently the format or something like that. How did you import you footage?
Do you have the studio version? Only the studio version supports H.264 at 4K or UHD
if you rewrap to pro res 422 using media encoder you can import them!
which pack do you have of youre lut version? basic, standard or professional one?
I believe the Pro
Hey so which package do I need to access the LUT you used to convert V-Log to Rec709? If I pay the subscription once and not maintain it can I still keep the LUTs?
I would personally get the paid LUTIFY! To be honest I’m not sure but I believe they may stop working! If search it
It uses V-log L.
Great Video, I have a gh5 and I'm new to the Luts, can you tell me where to purchase them, Luts?
Am new to gh5 I installed vlog
I set 4k 150m vlog 24fps
Shoot but when I apply lut it don't look like film it looks rather more like a dslr shot
The LUT will make it closer to a REC709 color space (where dslrs typically shoot) and with colors and a style close to a film stock/look
I just got the GH5 and I cannot get davinci to open the 10bit 422 files, is it because its the free version?
Yes! The free version doesn’t support 4K 10 Bit H.264
Also try renaming file from .mov to .mp4 which can work
If you download convert V6 you can transcode it to pro res 422 which will work in the free version of resolve. I have a video on my channel about it :)
Thank you!
With the colour space settings, V-log (like on the Varicam) and V-log L (on the GH5) aren’t the same, so this setting will not work.
Yes and no. The main point is the change the color space, then to correct underneath for any changes. You could always get s GH5 LUT but id be cautious
@@CameronGallagher this is not a color space, this is a transfer function. V-gamut is Primaries.
Which monitor do you have?
I’m using my MacBook Pro Monitor and a Dell 4K Monitor! I can’t remember the model, but it’s the most popular one on B&H
Well, not much of grading going here.
Looks like film
Damn dude... you're a color grading wizard. I stick to a quick shadows, highlights, and mids adjustment then lay my grade over and all it a day LOL. I don't have the patience for it! I'd be stoked if you took a few seconds to check out my latest video and drop a comment about your thoughts. We go through out whole video setup, backpack and all. Clean video dude, well done! Keep it up! -new sub
it's basically better to grade from scratch just for the pure fact that all these people make you give your email and sign up for their dumb ass shit and the LUT ends up costing money
Ypu were never supposed to use any LUTS fo color managment like this... Wow.