Don’t need to interchange top and bottom! Just flip them, if you see comfort your in comfort mode! Glad to see you review Bowtech now, looking forward for a Carbon One review🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻
...if you interchange top and bottom module AND flip them over at the same time you are back to point of origin, back to zero! .... maybe that is what happens here accidentally and that's the reason why there wasn't a difference in speed.
Yeah but you want to see Comfort if you're right-handed person looking at the Shell you want about look through the cam and see comfort if it says Comfort on the outside of the cam that means it's a form you need to look through the hole in the inside of the cam and see comfort
SS34, Darton 35, and PSE 34’s are my choices this year. Normally from my testing and others I’ve seen the difference in comfort and performance is 7 to 10 FPS depending the draw length. It may be more at the shorter draw lengths. My testing has been done at 31 or 31.5 depending on the bow.
Super cool man! You have a new bow lineup! Us bow shooters that want a nice bow need to experience diffrent bows.. trend that Bowtech most people didnt like is going opposite. We dont have any great shops here in quebec Canada. Was burned more than once. Was lokking to buy myself tuning gear, but a last chance and all.. 🤷♂️ that adjustability is awsome. Hey if i would live in your towm, i would buyy bow from you and have it tuned to me! Awsome vid !👍👌👊
On the flip disc it’s what you see is what you’re set on when switching from performance to comfort you keep the mods on the cam they were on and you just flip them over
@@gerthao4850 Nice! I would have troubles with that L/H draw. The only thing is I should shoot L/H because I am super left eye dominant. I don't go blurry on the peep, scope, pin, or target with a L/H bow. Shooting R/H I only can focus on 2 out of 4 of those things without a blinder flap.
That's what I heard I couldn't understand why you would even go with the composite vs. Aluminum unless they was trying to light it up me personally I think I would rather have the aluminum with sometimes man that composite material is harder than aluminum
I love my SS34. I've done testing with comfort vs performance, and I've seen mixed results on speed increase. I tested it with both settings using several weight arrows and depending on the arrow saw a jump of 3-18 fps with the only difference being arrow weight. I also saw a bigger jump when having the limb bolts turned down from 70 to 60. It's definitely something where your bow may shoot differently than someone else's.
I'mma tell you know the big thing but people don't realize but a really good set of strings versus Factory strings I don't care what they say I put my bloodline strings on there that I built myself I got 8-foot apparel height compared to the factory street that's at least 20 yards versus the factory strings that's with a 550 grain Arrow
I really liked the ss34. Super stable, easy draw cycle, and very easy to tune. Ultimately I went with the elite Omnia. Also easy to tune, good stable platform, and 14 fps faster than the ss34. I have a 26.5" draw so the speed really appealed to me.
@@greekmaster1001 absolutely! In fact when I talk to guys with longer draws it's the first bow I recommend! They're both very easy to tune, quiet, and stable platforms.
Shot one of these at my local pro shop last weekend. I reinjured my shoulder a year and a half ago which derailed my archery practice. I liked the idea of a smooth drawing bow that tunes easily. As someone with a short draw, I had trepidations about a relatively long ATA, but I just liked to draw cycle too much.
1. If you can read the word "Performance" on the module then it is in performance mode, if you can read "Comfort" it is in comfort mode ....(..beeing able to read has some advantages 😎) 2. most people assume that the comfort mode makes a more comfortable draw cycle - IMO it only results in a smoother transition into the valley, and for me I can't say that this is more comfortable or easier to draw. The benefit of the comfort setting is - IMO - that creeping forward when holding the bow at full draw is easier to control, hence letting the bow down is easier too. 3. I started the new year as the proud owner of a new Reckoning 36 gen2 - IMO the ultimate 3D bow; the SS34 lacks the time lock (so you still need a press if you have to twist the cables), and it lacks the grip lock, which is an amazing feature as you can tailor the grip angle to your needs (I didn't expect much from this feature, but boy was I wrong....) 4. the gen2 cost significant more than the SS34, but having spent quite some money on a Mathews for alternative grips (how much are just the Mathews side scales ??? 🤢), top hats and modules IMO the additional $$$ for those features are worth it!
@@InsideOutPrecision @ 6:12 ... quote: ..."flip them top and bottom ....flip them to the bottom" .... quote end .....you didn't flip them and put the one that was on the top cam to the bottom cam ...?....your "wording" confused me a little bit ... 😁
Nice review, I'm still waiting on my sx80 to arrive, regarding the speeds yeh something not quite right generally you get an extra 7-10fps going from comfort to performance cheers
I do have to say, I have shot that bow and it is a great shooter. If I was looking for a new hunting bow I’d be hard pressed not to pull the trigger on one. I felt that it holds great, it’s quite and dead in the hand.
I already had an inline 5 psee bl34 I got the older Mathews on the wall the vxr 31.5 I shot that Bo 3 times and I bought it just because how good it felt in the hand draw cycle to no dump in the into the valley Dickies of being able to tune it with a Allen key
Love the video brother good job I believe BowTech hit it out the park smashed it home run I believe it's the best movie of the year I haven't shot the carbon one yet though I'll be going back over to archery shop I'll be bringing a camera with me
I like the review, but you should know which performance setting you are using. The chronograph results don’t match anyone else. It should be about the bow not local market and shop. It is not an 8” brace height. It’s almost 7. I really like my SS34
Uhhh I never said it was an 8” brace height. I used an 8” brace height as an example when I was conveying why a higher brace height was more forgiving. And as far as promoting the shop, that was like 5 seconds of a 15 min video. I don’t why the speeds didn’t change. Just is what it is.
Have you shot or reviewed the bow tech SP30? For someone like me that has a 26” draw length, would I be better off going with the SP 30 over the SS 34 because of the shorter A to A?
That bow looks awesome. I love the tuneability of the Bowtech. I’ve shot Mathews for several years and even broke down and bought the V3X last year but there are some downfalls. If you want to change the draw weight you have to get new mods. Same thing with draw length. In order to fine tune the bow you need to adjust the top hats. It can be time consuming if your not doing that everyday like a pro shop. One other downfall is the weight. It’s heavy. All these I sacrifice because Mathews makes such a great bow and I love shooting them. If I’m to change then it would be because of the tuneability of the Bowtech.
You don’t need new mods to change the draw weight. One turn off the limb bolts will drop the weight 5lbs. The mods just control the peak weight. Also the SS34 is the exact same weight as the V3X. Most aluminum bows will be between 4.5 and 4.7 lbs.
@@InsideOutPrecision thank you for that. I knew about changing the draw weight with the limb bolts but I thought it was just a few pounds. Once I get my bow set up at the shop I usually don’t mess with it to much. Lol. This past year I’ve been wanting to learn how to do everything myself because my shop is 45 minutes away and it would just be nice to know how to do everything. Thank you for your insight.
I got the 36 gen2 - IMO the ultimate 3D bow due to the most advanced tuneability (incl. time lock, grip lock), higher brace height, longer ATA (but not too long) .... IMO well worth the extra $$.
Hey buddy, bought the ss34. My first bowtech, sweet bow. Getting some serving separation bottom cams. Stock strings. Is it just a strings issue. Contacted bowtech sending me new strings
As far as the pocket Lockdown Screw I thought there was only one not two per the owner's manual; just wanted to make sure I'm adjusting the draw weight the right way.
@@InsideOutPrecision ..the "upper one"....??? ....the pocket lockdown screw is the one that is close to the limb bolt - this is the one that needs to be loose when adjusting the draw weight via the limb bolts.
Can you do a sound comparison between the vtm and the ss34? Hoyt is touting the sound reduction, and I'd be curious if there's a significant difference between the two.
Here in Europe you will not find bows for left-handed archers anywhere! Only on order, while for right-handed shooters the racks are stocked with the newest bows in all sizes and colours! This is why I have been shooting for years with a bow that I bought from someone, it is a complete disgrace! How can you buy a naked bow for over $1,500 without at least holding it in your hands?
Strange because every other video I’ve seen has shown a speed jump from comfort to performance. What you can read is the setting it is on… sorry if this is a stupid question but did you flip the disk on both cams?
@@InsideOutPrecision I just got an SS34, but haven't had time to experiment with it yet since I had to go away for work. I haven't been able to find a good demo or get a clear answer on the flip disc. I'm under the impression that the disc simply gets flipped over and reinstalled on the same axel, not flipped, as well as moved to the opposite axel. Sounds like you did both. I suspect this is why you saw no change. I'm just speculating that's were you went wrong based on other vids I've watched. Would love to find out for sure. Please let me know if you get it sorted out.
Yep got it figured out haha… my rep just worded it strangely when I asked and made it sound like I had to flip them too and bottom as well… picked up 8 fps after I did it right
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Don’t need to interchange top and bottom! Just flip them, if you see comfort your in comfort mode!
Glad to see you review Bowtech now, looking forward for a Carbon One review🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻
...if you interchange top and bottom module AND flip them over at the same time you are back to point of origin, back to zero! .... maybe that is what happens here accidentally and that's the reason why there wasn't a difference in speed.
Yeah but you want to see Comfort if you're right-handed person looking at the Shell you want about look through the cam and see comfort if it says Comfort on the outside of the cam that means it's a form you need to look through the hole in the inside of the cam and see comfort
The side you can read is the setting it is on. You DO NOT have to flip mods top to bottom.
SS34, Darton 35, and PSE 34’s are my choices this year. Normally from my testing and others I’ve seen the difference in comfort and performance is 7 to 10 FPS depending the draw length. It may be more at the shorter draw lengths. My testing has been done at 31 or 31.5 depending on the bow.
*Lefty struggling on the draw*
"Sooo comfortable to draw" alright 🤣
Super cool man! You have a new bow lineup! Us bow shooters that want a nice bow need to experience diffrent bows.. trend that Bowtech most people didnt like is going opposite. We dont have any great shops here in quebec Canada. Was burned more than once. Was lokking to buy myself tuning gear, but a last chance and all.. 🤷♂️ that adjustability is awsome. Hey if i would live in your towm, i would buyy bow from you and have it tuned to me! Awsome vid !👍👌👊
I’ve heard people say that the SX80 has aluminum limb pockets as well.
I think they have last year's Revolt style limb pockets
On the flip disc it’s what you see is what you’re set on when switching from performance to comfort you keep the mods on the cam they were on and you just flip them over
he was making me think i did it wrong. phew
@@felmeyjt only reason I know 100% is because it has a b and a t on the discs if you look closely
The fact that you’re left handed and shooting a right handed bow is crazy impressive to me. I would’ve been tied in a knot if I tried that
I do find it nuts that he can pull them back at all oppo at 70. Most men can't pull 70.
@nic field I can shoot mathews bow left and right at 75lbs. It is weird but once you build that muscle memory it gets easier.
@@gerthao4850 Nice! I would have troubles with that L/H draw. The only thing is I should shoot L/H because I am super left eye dominant. I don't go blurry on the peep, scope, pin, or target with a L/H bow. Shooting R/H I only can focus on 2 out of 4 of those things without a blinder flap.
Good. I’ve been waiting for this review.
good to see you be able to review some "new stuff". FWIW, I'm SUPER interested in YOUR opinion/review of the Darton line up. It's coming, yes....?!?
I received my SX80 last week. The SX80 does have metal pockets versus composite on the SS34.
That's what I heard I couldn't understand why you would even go with the composite vs. Aluminum unless they was trying to light it up me personally I think I would rather have the aluminum with sometimes man that composite material is harder than aluminum
@@Gibsonlife573 I have already recieved my SX80, or 83.... Their are metal pockets.
I love my SS34. I've done testing with comfort vs performance, and I've seen mixed results on speed increase. I tested it with both settings using several weight arrows and depending on the arrow saw a jump of 3-18 fps with the only difference being arrow weight. I also saw a bigger jump when having the limb bolts turned down from 70 to 60. It's definitely something where your bow may shoot differently than someone else's.
I'mma tell you know the big thing but people don't realize but a really good set of strings versus Factory strings I don't care what they say I put my bloodline strings on there that I built myself I got 8-foot apparel height compared to the factory street that's at least 20 yards versus the factory strings that's with a 550 grain Arrow
So glad you do bowtech now I shoot the sr 350 and would love to see a review on one of those
I really liked the ss34. Super stable, easy draw cycle, and very easy to tune. Ultimately I went with the elite Omnia. Also easy to tune, good stable platform, and 14 fps faster than the ss34. I have a 26.5" draw so the speed really appealed to me.
If the ss had same speed would you go for it instead of the omnia?
@@greekmaster1001 absolutely! In fact when I talk to guys with longer draws it's the first bow I recommend! They're both very easy to tune, quiet, and stable platforms.
Have you shot that apples-to-apples
im a 27 inch draw so i get it, does the elite omnia need a press to tune?
Purchased a SS34 in smoke grey and love it
Shot one of these at my local pro shop last weekend.
I reinjured my shoulder a year and a half ago which derailed my archery practice. I liked the idea of a smooth drawing bow that tunes easily. As someone with a short draw, I had trepidations about a relatively long ATA, but I just liked to draw cycle too much.
1. If you can read the word "Performance" on the module then it is in performance mode, if you can read "Comfort" it is in comfort mode ....(..beeing able to read has some advantages 😎)
2. most people assume that the comfort mode makes a more comfortable draw cycle - IMO it only results in a smoother transition into the valley, and for me I can't say that this is more comfortable or easier to draw. The benefit of the comfort setting is - IMO - that creeping forward when holding the bow at full draw is easier to control, hence letting the bow down is easier too.
3. I started the new year as the proud owner of a new Reckoning 36 gen2 - IMO the ultimate 3D bow; the SS34 lacks the time lock (so you still need a press if you have to twist the cables), and it lacks the grip lock, which is an amazing feature as you can tailor the grip angle to your needs (I didn't expect much from this feature, but boy was I wrong....)
4. the gen2 cost significant more than the SS34, but having spent quite some money on a Mathews for alternative grips (how much are just the Mathews side scales ??? 🤢), top hats and modules IMO the additional $$$ for those features are worth it!
Yeah that’s what I thought!! Saw no difference in speed though, kinda weird
@@InsideOutPrecision @ 6:12 ... quote: ..."flip them top and bottom ....flip them to the bottom" .... quote end .....you didn't flip them and put the one that was on the top cam to the bottom cam ...?....your "wording" confused me a little bit ... 😁
Nice review, I'm still waiting on my sx80 to arrive, regarding the speeds yeh something not quite right generally you get an extra 7-10fps going from comfort to performance cheers
I do have to say, I have shot that bow and it is a great shooter. If I was looking for a new hunting bow I’d be hard pressed not to pull the trigger on one. I felt that it holds great, it’s quite and dead in the hand.
I already had an inline 5 psee bl34 I got the older Mathews on the wall the vxr 31.5 I shot that Bo 3 times and I bought it just because how good it felt in the hand draw cycle to no dump in the into the valley Dickies of being able to tune it with a Allen key
Love the video brother good job I believe BowTech hit it out the park smashed it home run I believe it's the best movie of the year I haven't shot the carbon one yet though I'll be going back over to archery shop I'll be bringing a camera with me
The side you can read is what it is. If you can see 'comfort', it's in comfort
I like the review, but you should know which performance setting you are using. The chronograph results don’t match anyone else. It should be about the bow not local market and shop. It is not an 8” brace height. It’s almost 7.
I really like my SS34
Uhhh I never said it was an 8” brace height. I used an 8” brace height as an example when I was conveying why a higher brace height was more forgiving. And as far as promoting the shop, that was like 5 seconds of a 15 min video. I don’t why the speeds didn’t change. Just is what it is.
Yeah it is not even 7in 6.75
I recently bought the ss34 everything about it is awesome my only complaint is my bow came with a lot of cosmetic flaws
SX80 ordered, this thing is sweet
Have you shot or reviewed the bow tech SP30? For someone like me that has a 26” draw length, would I be better off going with the SP 30 over the SS 34 because of the shorter A to A?
I haven’t reviewed it yet but we’ve sold a bunch of them! Definitely a better option for your specs. The Ss34 would be horribly slow
skin lookin healthy my guy
That bow looks awesome. I love the tuneability of the Bowtech. I’ve shot Mathews for several years and even broke down and bought the V3X last year but there are some downfalls. If you want to change the draw weight you have to get new mods. Same thing with draw length. In order to fine tune the bow you need to adjust the top hats. It can be time consuming if your not doing that everyday like a pro shop. One other downfall is the weight. It’s heavy. All these I sacrifice because Mathews makes such a great bow and I love shooting them. If I’m to change then it would be because of the tuneability of the Bowtech.
You don’t need new mods to change the draw weight. One turn off the limb bolts will drop the weight 5lbs. The mods just control the peak weight. Also the SS34 is the exact same weight as the V3X. Most aluminum bows will be between 4.5 and 4.7 lbs.
@@InsideOutPrecision thank you for that. I knew about changing the draw weight with the limb bolts but I thought it was just a few pounds. Once I get my bow set up at the shop I usually don’t mess with it to much. Lol. This past year I’ve been wanting to learn how to do everything myself because my shop is 45 minutes away and it would just be nice to know how to do everything. Thank you for your insight.
Kellens a bowtech guy now
Ive got one, not the fastest but its butter smooth and very stable. Shooting it as a stand in 3d bow till my reckoning gen2 gets here
I got the 36 gen2 - IMO the ultimate 3D bow due to the most advanced tuneability (incl. time lock, grip lock), higher brace height, longer ATA (but not too long) .... IMO well worth the extra $$.
Hey buddy, bought the ss34. My first bowtech, sweet bow. Getting some serving separation bottom cams. Stock strings. Is it just a strings issue. Contacted bowtech sending me new strings
Yeah stick strings just aren’t great. That won’t hurt anything if separates a little bit on the bottom cam, but it’s good they’re sending you new ines
Ah the full version haha
As far as the pocket Lockdown Screw I thought there was only one not two per the owner's manual; just wanted to make sure I'm adjusting the draw weight the right way.
As long as the upper one is loose you’ll be fine
@@InsideOutPrecision ..the "upper one"....??? ....the pocket lockdown screw is the one that is close to the limb bolt - this is the one that needs to be loose when adjusting the draw weight via the limb bolts.
Did you open your own shop? You’re no longer at The Bow Rack?
No longer at the Bow Rack. Took a position at G4 to run the shop as if it was my own
Can you do a sound comparison between the vtm and the ss34? Hoyt is touting the sound reduction, and I'd be curious if there's a significant difference between the two.
I literally typed that 2 seconds before you said "this thing is stupid quiet"...haha
@@bcompton53 haha… it’s definitely more quiet than the VTM. They’re both really quiet though
Here in Europe you will not find bows for left-handed archers anywhere!
Only on order, while for right-handed shooters the racks are stocked with the newest bows in all sizes and colours!
This is why I have been shooting for years with a bow that I bought from someone, it is a complete disgrace!
How can you buy a naked bow for over $1,500 without at least holding it in your hands?
Do you carry any elite buys most the new flagship
Strange because every other video I’ve seen has shown a speed jump from comfort to performance. What you can read is the setting it is on… sorry if this is a stupid question but did you flip the disk on both cams?
Lightning can mess with the chronographs. Best in natural light from what I understand
@@10creece I assume you meant lighting 👍
Yes flipped them both. Not sure why it didn’t jump in speed
@@InsideOutPrecision weird! Keep up the good content! 💪
@@InsideOutPrecision I just got an SS34, but haven't had time to experiment with it yet since I had to go away for work. I haven't been able to find a good demo or get a clear answer on the flip disc. I'm under the impression that the disc simply gets flipped over and reinstalled on the same axel, not flipped, as well as moved to the opposite axel. Sounds like you did both. I suspect this is why you saw no change. I'm just speculating that's were you went wrong based on other vids I've watched. Would love to find out for sure. Please let me know if you get it sorted out.
So your not in Eugene anymore
Will you be reviewing the bowtech solution SD as well ?
Mmm maybe? Not really a bow that lots of people want to know about though
and a aluminum limb pocket on sx80
No 28" speed test?
Do you need a bow press to switch from comfort to performance mods?
No, just unscrew the set screws, flip over the mod, and screw it back on
@@InsideOutPrecision thanks for the feedback!
What chrono are you using, Caldwell?
Yep
Anyone know the reflex measurement on the ss34?
You just gotta flip the mods not trade ends with them.
Yep got it figured out haha… my rep just worded it strangely when I asked and made it sound like I had to flip them too and bottom as well… picked up 8 fps after I did it right
what color is that?
missy oak break up
I can assure you that going from comfort to performance there's an 8-10 fps difference. I have no idea why there was no difference.
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