Outsiders try to turn it into a party, and inevitably, it will be request night. ......."uhhhhh could you play some Madonna? Metallica? Jay Z? Taylor Swift?" "Where's the beer" "You guys are great" 5 beers later..... "You suck!" "Freebird"
We were rehearsing with a drummer for a gig, first time playing with that dude. He's a christian, but my hometown there are so few drum players that he was the only one available for that gig. The first day was cool. the guy adapted to the songs real quickly (we guided him with a lot of 'plum, plash, tum'). Next day the guy appears with his gf. She sat on the floor real quiet, so no big deal. In the middle of a break, she starts asking the bass player (he doesn't believe in church, bu he claims he believes in god) about his religion. I think she did that because of his tattoos. The rehearsal studio was at his place, he tries to be polite and reject the conversation in a polite way. She insist talking about 'if you believe in god you should go to church' crap and he starts getting upset (obviously). The singer realizes the situation and he says something like 'ok, I'm uncomfortable. I'm leaving.', he's the bass player brother from another mother, so the bass player walks behind him. The drummer and the girl stayed behind with me. After a minute of awkward silence, they leave too. I walk out behind them and I see the bass player and the singer still talking outside the house, they walk in when they see the couple leaving. We discussed the situation and it was no big deal for us. The next day, the singer (he was the contact with the drummer) texts us a message from the drummer: 'Hey guys. I don't think i can play with you at the gig. Yesterday during rehearsal I felt the devil in the room.' My reply to my friends was: "Yes the devil was there... And she was wearing a purple shirt'.
"Treat your bandmates like family". Well, that's awkward, because I can beat all of the stories here...the other guitarist in my band started dating my daughter. Yes, you read that right.
A Catricala - To be fair, he's her age (I'm 39, she's 22...don't judge...). Good guitarist, but a bit of a baby - had a habit of crying when told he was doing something wrong.
Christian McGuire - oi, that hurts ;) There's a difference, though - Geoff Tate ended up fired and the guitarist stayed. I gave our guitarist a choice - either dating my daughter or being in the band. He left the band (after I made it abundantly clear - several times - that he wasn't going to get everything he wanted). I'd told him a couple of months before that this would happen (when they first started chatting), so it's not like it would've come as a surprise. They both acted like I was the devil when I followed through, naturally.
GREAT Video! As the lead singer of my band, I have had to deal with some of my ex girlfriends getting attention hungry and jealous. There is a reason they are now exes! "Ohh I love musicians" followed up quickly by "why don't you skip rehearsal and cancel the gig, I miss you"...blah blah blah! No need for that. I did however get lucky enough in the end though. My now wife to be is fully supportive, doesn't get jealous and even though she wishes she could come to more shows, she selflessly stays home with our two 3 year olds. Guys, if you have a jealous girlfriend kick her to the curb. A good one will come along who will support you and your music fully. And when she does, its well worth the wait!
What does it mean to be a bass player though? The type of music my band plays it's difficult however I'm able to play it well, there no improve so I'm not sure what are the setbacks of me playing bass even though I'm a guitar player
"if you're not in the band, don't give your opinion on the reverb level of the vocals." -Glen, whom gives his opinions on everything, love your work man xD
Haha...great video. My lead singer in a band years ago brought a girl he was trying to get with to practice...she didn't like it when I called her "flavor of the month."
Wow. I never knew how lucky I was. I mean, Stacy doesn't keep her mouth shut about "the reverb on that vocal" but she knows what she's talking about, so it's never caused any problems with other band members, but if I am offered a "last minute" (in punk rock, it is *ALWAYS* last minute) show, she's the one offering me a ride, rationalizing how this could be the last time I get to play before the apocalypse, or telling me how much I'll regret it if I turn it down. She's also my camera operator, CD-seller, and occasionally first-responder (again, it's punk rock). I have *never* heard even the slightest bit of disapproval from her about anything music related, and it's not just because she is being nice, she doesn't hold shit back. I've talked to other guys who have to negotiate with their girlfriend just to get her to show up at one show.....Sorry, you don't come see me play at least *SOME* of the time, you don't really love me. I know that kinda makes ME the overbearing jerk not unlike the one you talk about in this video, but anyone who knows me well enough to know that she wants to be in a relationship with me knows how important it is to me. Dating me and not going to shows is like dating Tommy Chong and not liking pot. . . it's just not gonna work out.
Glenn, this is possibly your greatest video. That whole first section where you describe how the singer chick's boyfriend is a controlling douche might be the best delivery of that information I've ever seen.
I used to play in a widely known punk rock band in Miami in the early 90's. We had a nice following and a AR guy from Def American wanting to sign us, that all went against the wall because the bassist's girlfriend broke up with him and started dating the singer. Things would be fine until Yoko (our name for her) showed up and then these two clowns would start fighting, and this skank wasn't even worth it since she has a reputation with the other bands. Then the bassist quits and the guitarist brings in a 17 year old kid who's ten years younger than us, because of that, we couldn't play any clubs. What ever shows we played were like mini fiascos since it's time to hit the stage and our singer is nowhere in sight. Wait a minute, they're both in the men's room since Yoko is giving him a BJ and they decide to screw at the same time we start playing. The record deal falls through, the kid quits because "he doesn't like playing with older guys", and the band breaks up.
If he or she is gonna cheat, they are gonna do it whether you're jealous or not. So don't waste your time on jealousy. Good topic Glenn. The channel is really killer man and it's only getting better. Rock on.
Hm... My Boyfriend asked me to take me to his Band practice to meet the other Band members. I said okay, sat down and shut up and let the guys practice. After the practice I talked to the other guys to get them to know better. I like their music very much but i never gave a judgement to what they where practiceing. I'm not in the band so I keep my mouth shut. When they have got a concert, I try to help them with their band gear and bring the stuff on the Stage. Then I watch their shows and after the show i try to help at their Merch stand selling CD's or Shirts. You nailed it Glen! Its like the Kobayashi Maru Scenario but how about reprogramming the computer? ;D
I had this happen to me about 2 years ago! I dated a girl and she "loved music and bands" just not mine. Of course I was just being a good boyfriend and just wanted her to have a little fun. One day she thought she had the right to have a say in what we wear and how we have our instruments. I like having my guitar very low, she told me I need to have the guitar all the way up on my chest, that pissed me off. She told my drummer he needs to have his hands all the way up the sicks, which pissed him off. The next day both him and I told her "This is not your band, you have no say with happens to the way we play" yeah she was pissed but she had to hear it. She just wanted her to look like her favorite shitty NY band, I refused cause I refuse to look and sound generic as fuck. So everyone when Glenn says "Don't have boyfriends/girlfriends in the practice room" TAKE THE ADVICE!!!! It will save the arguing and headache. Oh and may I mention this. She also got pissed that I made my best friend the manager and here is why I made him the manager. He is in college for business and management, he's also not gonna fuck me over. Her line to me was "But I know music" when she really doesn't, which I told her. So anyone that is starting a band seriously don't let your other half in. I know you don't want to be rude but they can survive a few hours or a without you, it's a day not 3 years. As Glenn said you are working, you don't have your half at your job so don't have them in the practice room.
+Helium Road Yea cuz...JOHN did NOT..have the guts to go up to PAUL..and tell him he did not want to continue with the band...he knew yoko would be the means to and end
Both John and George were seriously keen to leave the Beatles well before John ever met Yoko. And, ultimately John chose to walk away and pursue a new chapter in his life because he wanted to. But hey, why admit John was responsible for his own choices when it's so easy just to blame a woman.
+James Cole totally agree with you there. The majority of people blame Yokohama for the beatles breakup, but there was tension before she even entered the picture. If anything she helped give John the support he needed to do what he actually wanted to do.
I'm single for a very very good reason: I prioritize my music higher then having a relationship as a backpack! This so goes into my music production playlist.
I'd like to add... Don't let your significant other donate practice space: if the relationship hits the bricks, so does that space. And if you stored gear there during that fateful moment, can you actually get it back legally if they refuse to let you in? I was in a band in my formative years (drummer) and that's what happened to my first kit. Never saw it again.
I feel like if it is your they would legally have to give it back upon your request... I dont know tho im no legal expert that just makes me mad cuz drums r expensive 😂
I can tell you right now that a jealous lover can not only ruin a band but ruin the musician in the relationship. It is my dream to become the lead singer in my own band but unfortunately I have an Ex who destroyed my self confidence so much that I got kicked off of my music corse a year early because I let his mental destruction of me bleed into my stage confidence. he would constantly cheat on me and then tell me about it in sickening detail before bragging to me about how much bigger the other girls breasts were than mine or how much skinner they were than me but then he'd get in a strop when I so much as shook someone else's hand. He even went as far as to pin me against a wall, get in my face and say "no one is allowed to touch you but me." It got so bad that even the music tutors intervened but by that point my confidence was so fucked that I would cry before every performance saying that I was a worthless shit who was just gonna go out there and fuck the whole performance up for the rest of my class band and when I did eventually get up on stage I couldn't interact with the audience and all I could do was stare at my feet, my tutors would end up having to separate me from the rest of the class and play instruments for me because I had crawled so far into my shell that if there was anyone else in the class band who could sing I'd make them sing and I'd take backing vocals and even when they separated me and played for me they'd constantly tell me off for trying to adapt my vocals to be hidden behind the instruments and my tutors really gave it everything they could to fix my confidence because they saw how much passion I have for music but in the end they just didn't know how else to help me. It broke my heart that I had to leave the music corse and I even remember sobbing and begging them not to kick me off because that music corse gave me something to cling to but I understand that due to how badly I let my relationship fuck me up there was nothing more they could do for me, my father was going to help me find a band because my dad is an ex musician himself but after I got kicked off the corse he refused to help me because the whole situation seemed to prove to him that I wasn't ready for a band yet. So beware of how fucked up jealous relationships make the musician themselves because it could very well set your band back to square one if your lead singer is so mentally fucked from a relationship that she can't even go on stage without crying and thinking she's a fuck up.
@@HeroSword_P unfortunately, I went back to singing in my bedroom alone. I’d love to join a band but I think I’ll just take some time to work on myself before exposing my issues to band members
@@HeroSword_P If Covid taught us anything. I mean, look at Cannons (Female lead singer), their "Living room sessions" look better than a LOT of actual music videos coming out in recebt years.
@@whiskeydaniels6272 I know this is unsolocited, so feel free to completely disregard. Not only my above comment, but reading your initial post, but if you're still in that "place" with everything you went through... lean into it. Make it a spectacle, like a character you're playing. Sort of like Maria Brink or Gwen Stefani. Going off on a limb, I'd wager you probably have a LOT of material and songs from having gone through that and while I HATE when people say "Everything happens for a reason", what I will say is to give it reason. Don't let it have happened to you in vain. What you have probably written about are things a lot of people can relate to... dont keep that from them. Allow others to not only feel what you feel, but to also process what they feel, through your music.
I was married with female singer of our band. There is nothing bad with this if you can separate family from band. Yeah, there were many situations in the band when we had strong conflict in a rehershal room but after this had a nice romantic evening. Even when we divorced, we still remained respectful band members. The band has broken up but our relationships weren't the case.
Glenn brother your videos never fail to cheer me up. I was in a complete 'fuck it all' mood until logging into TH-cam tonight and being blessed with yet another rant video from yourself on top of your usual weekly posts; they resonate with me on a spiritual level! Thanks for running such a great channel, much love from Surrey, England!
God, the movie "Spinal Tap" was profound on WAY too many levels.... Best advice I can give is tell every single girl you ever date "While I'm at rehearsal, you're divorced." at the very beginning.
Hey Glen, greetings from Texas! Another great video. Man, I've been in a lot bands the last ten years and few things irritate me more than my bandmate's inseparable girlfriends. Seriously, some people have no life away from their significant other.
I fired my ex wife that was in a band with me BEFORE she became my ex :) Warned her--do the job-- do it better than anyone else or your gone. Thought I was kidding.
Agree, man. What a silly question. What kind of a man would ever need help from a stranger(I assume he and Glenn doesn't know each other personally)to deal with this kind of shit. I bet the guy who ask the question might be just as pathetic and as insecure as that jerky "boyfriend" guy.
I can relate, i always had this kind of issues with my ex. "I want to see you practice" "I want to see you recording" And then i would say no and she would made a huge deal out of it! (Crying, no talking to me, etc) The best one was "Why arent you answering my calls?!" We where playing our first big gig in a bike fest rally...
Thank you, Glenn! I was recently in a hard rock band for four years and I have to say, I had problems with my guitarist and singer wanting to have girlfriends and other friends present for practice. I would tell them "Listen, you guys, it's practice. We need to practice; we aren't here to host guests at a time like this." And wouldn't you know it, there would be a complaint by the next week that "not enough work got done last week" from my old singer or guitarist.
Ever since I was 14 and in my first band there has always been one golden rule throughout all the bands. Keep relationships and band relationships separate. You can have them turn up at a gig but if they're at practice they'll distract you. If they're in the studio they'll distract you. If they're at the sound check (yes I've heard of this happening) THEY DISTRACT YOU! Having a relationship and being in a band is fine but you need to make them know what exactly the boundaries are. And don't be that guy who cancels on everyone at band practice last minute because "his girlfriend needed him" fuck that shit. Act like a real musician or you won't get a career in the industry full time touring if you're at her beckoned call 24/7. I'm not saying the band should always come before your partner because that's not right. I'm just saying the band shouldn't constantly suffer because of YOUR relationship issues.
My girlfriend is a great supporter of whatever I do with bands and prefers to be there because she grew up with her father in bands and loves listening. Plus she helps out with photos and videos for promo material. Gotta love a woman that helps make the band better!
now i never thought i'd actually use what i learnt in "relationship education" but if he's controlling her and deciding who she can speak to, that's abuse man. Get your singer out of that even if he threatens to kill himself cuz its always a bluff.
i get that, but a lot of the time a guy will out of nowhere threaten to kill himself so the girl he is abusing stays with him out of guilt, and then he'll physically harm her for considering leaving him.
True Iain. For my part I just want to see people live a long happy life. Then become a burden to society and break the back of the Corp. Masters. But what do I know? Just an old Anarchist--or was that Anachronism? Peace !
I ve seen a band that guitarist was with the singer and when they broke up, they still became good friends and are still in the band. They said the band is more impt.
This video should be called "#1 Orientation - So You Just Joined the Band". Of the 2K+ gigs I've done since I've been married (OK, well the married bit hasn't always been helpful) my wife has attended exactly THREE…
Ha! That's amazing, my ex girlfriend was in my band, I actually met through it. Damn was that a fucking mistake! Having relationships in bands is a massive mistake and so is having a mate with a girlfriend in your band.
"Don't fish off the company dock" Two bands with people dating in the band. One broke up because of their relationship issues (although if I remember correctly the two dated before the band started). The other one stayed intact until our keyboardist and I left the band. After that the band has pretty much ended but I still stay in touch with them. In the second band dating was not a problem at all.
This is spot on advice. Each band member is viewed as family. I might had peer, whether they are younger or older, male or female, they are musicians first and foremost. Thanks for sharing this.
I am very lucky. The band I am in, and the last band as well, rehearse and record at my home studio. My wife NEVER comes into the studio except to say hi and brings drinks to the band members. She sells merchandise at gigs and otherwise, doesn't get involved. She has come into the studio otherwise very few times, … and always just if something sounded REALLY good and she wanted to compliment us. Couldn't ask for a more supportive wife. I am truly blessed!!
Hey man! My lead singer/rhythm guitarist's mom runs our facebook page, and IMO does not do a great job. I am an admin on the page, but I feel like I'm better equipped to be making a professional-looking image for our group (I've had experience doing it in the past, and have talked to friends who agreed with me that the band I managed AND played bass for had a much more professional looking page). The system of her running most of the posts on the page seems pretty ensconced, and I'm not really sure how to go about taking more control of the page, especially since I am not a founding member of the band (I joined as a bassist after the band had been around for a while and through a couple bassists.) If you see this, thanks!
Here's my unsolicited advice. It comes down to one of three options. a) Honest communication b) Trickery c) Suck it up and deal with it. The first option is obviously the best, IMO. If you can find a way to get your guitarist on your side, he can hopefully get his mom to butt out. If your band mates are smart, they'll agree that it doesn't look very professional for someone's mommy running their "business." Alternately, you could hijack the page. This is bound to step on people's toes though. Especially if it catches them by surprise. Finally, you could just let it go and not let yourself be bothered with it. If you can't do anything about it because people will get their feewings hurt, just brush it off. No sense letting things bother you if there's nothing you can do about it. Bonus option! Rage quit and fire the drummer for no reason.
Wound up quitting the band because I was going back to school and planning on living about 5 hrs away from them, and man... The more I think of it the gladder I'm not involved with that group anymore lmao. Good music, but it was a bunch of dudes stuck in a small town and not really willing to change to get out of there. Also the whole "momager" thing.
Even though you're already out of the band, still want to chime in. The thing you said about "not being a founding member" doesn't mean jack shit. If you join the band and I'm assuming you handle just as much band duties as the other members, your opinion and stance is absolutely equal. As a matter of fact, it doesn't fucking matter who started the band because everyone is now putting in the work to make the band successful. Also, now that I think about it, your opinion mattered more because you seemed to be the only who realized that someone's mother running the band page was a stupid idea.
I'm always worried about pissing off the girlfriends by existing. It hasn't happened yet (luckily) but I'm afraid jealousy will trump reality and the fact that I'm in no way attracted to any of my bandmates and just enjoy being friends and playing music. But hopefully things continue to go well as they have. Thank you for this video, Glenn.
To be honest, all this applies more to dumb kids or people that refuse to grow up. If you're remotely level headed none of this would ever become an issue.
Also, to be fair, it's advice for the person dealing with the person in the band with relationship issues, not so much for the person with relationship issues themselves.
Gosh i started watching the stupid text playlist till 330am lol. I'm on vacation and I was sooo hooked on those video, I know sad . But my goodness I had a great time watching them
Great video. Played in a band with a female singer for six years, and she dated our drummer for the first three. They split up, and we ended up kicking him out (it lasted about a week). It was a blessing in disguise, because we ended up picking up a much more talented drummer.
Hahah oh Glenn, I could listen to you scream about stuff all day. Even if I don't care about the topic, I still just like listening to you telling people whats what. Stay angry.
Yeah, because relationship drama never happens with all-male bands. Good thing you're in that super-unique sitiation where everyone in the band is a guy.
Both myself and my gf are vocalists in different bands and it's always great to have eachother in practices, gigs even in recording sessions since we both know when we should open our mouth and when not to... it's always helpful to have free hands going out to get water for the band, help the drummer when the hardware gets lose, fix their sound, etc... even when her drummer couldn't make it to the soundcheck once i took a bus for 2 hours to be there, memorized one of their drum lines in the bus and did the drummer's soundcheck as if it's my band and i'll be drumming that night (i play drums aswell)... well she gets a little bit jealous sometimes since she's a female whether in my gigs or even when people come to talk to me when i'm not playing lol but she never says that during the gig which is so much appreciated coz all i need to do then is concentrate since i have so much effort to do on stage, u can say all 9 slipknot members in 1 person... so yea, you don't see that much but i guess i'm lucky we have eachother's backs even on this :) it's all about respect, support and that pride u feel when seeing ur significant other having so much passion for the same thing that kept you still fighting for the past 8 years... even if one was not a musician as well they SHOULD appreciate what their significant other's passion is !!! what do you say Glen ?
this makes me glad that my girlfriend is a huge supporter of my band and always knows that my band is my main priority. she's good friends with all my band mates and helps us with anything I need her to. she's the best and she's our biggest fan.
Wise words - GF at practice... Think Spinal Tap... On topic - but a different tack - some of the band mates you meet in your 20's are your mates for life - I'm still gigging with the same lead guitarist after 34 years (I'm vocals and rhythm guitar) - we've seen each other through a many failed relationships over the years and he even gave me a home for 18 months when my now ex wife made me homeless. Band mates are closer than brothers and can see each other through it all - respect the boundaries and always put them first...
I see a lot of this happen, but during a tour to Germany we needed an extra singer. My partner was more than happy to come and she understood every aspect of touring without me having to even tell her. If anything it can help sometimes. Seeing someone being professional about your passion (and now theirs) is a great experience. The problem with bands that suffer from this is being immature. If it is a job then be professional and make sure anyone you bring understands this.
My gf was at my house and I forgot I had practice so my band mates came over and my the bass player ended up talking about cars for an hour with my gf while me and the drummer and the rhythm guitarist played CSGO and watched Netflix. It was a fun night but we always end up just hanging out when she’s there.
The band/personal relationships extreme tension thing worked for Fleetwood Mac and their album 'Rumors', though that would have to be a unique exception rather than any sort of rule. It worked for all of them creatively (and financially) though. Having said that, for them it was all in-house -- no outsider relationships.
the thumbnail is the best. luckily I have not experienced this. I have brought my gf over to a fun recording session a couple of times, she laid down some piano and we all had a good time. I did it to get her off my back about going to band every week, and it worked.
My gf comes to practice all the time. But she doesn't talk, she just genuinely likes our music and likes to watch our creative process because she's a writer herself. Idk why im posting this. I guess im just showing off xD
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BAND PRACTICE MEANS NO OUTSIDERS!!! - Stevie T
Josh L jajahahahahahhaahhahagahag 2 years right now Im crying
This isn’t a show, keep your socializing *drummer starts playing* SHUT!
Outsiders try to turn it into a party, and inevitably, it will be request night.
......."uhhhhh could you play some Madonna? Metallica? Jay Z? Taylor Swift?"
"Where's the beer"
"You guys are great"
5 beers later.....
"You suck!"
"Freebird"
We were rehearsing with a drummer for a gig, first time playing with that dude. He's a christian, but my hometown there are so few drum players that he was the only one available for that gig. The first day was cool. the guy adapted to the songs real quickly (we guided him with a lot of 'plum, plash, tum'). Next day the guy appears with his gf. She sat on the floor real quiet, so no big deal. In the middle of a break, she starts asking the bass player (he doesn't believe in church, bu he claims he believes in god) about his religion. I think she did that because of his tattoos. The rehearsal studio was at his place, he tries to be polite and reject the conversation in a polite way. She insist talking about 'if you believe in god you should go to church' crap and he starts getting upset (obviously). The singer realizes the situation and he says something like 'ok, I'm uncomfortable. I'm leaving.', he's the bass player brother from another mother, so the bass player walks behind him. The drummer and the girl stayed behind with me. After a minute of awkward silence, they leave too. I walk out behind them and I see the bass player and the singer still talking outside the house, they walk in when they see the couple leaving. We discussed the situation and it was no big deal for us. The next day, the singer (he was the contact with the drummer) texts us a message from the drummer: 'Hey guys. I don't think i can play with you at the gig. Yesterday during rehearsal I felt the devil in the room.' My reply to my friends was: "Yes the devil was there... And she was wearing a purple shirt'.
Wow... That was a long text
Totally worth reading.
+Thms Channel yes it was..great story hey?
Lmfao
Thats absolutely fantastic
"Treat your bandmates like family". Well, that's awkward, because I can beat all of the stories here...the other guitarist in my band started dating my daughter.
Yes, you read that right.
ouch
Is the other guitarist closer to your age or your daughter's age?
Is your name Geoff Tate? One of Queensryche's guitarists briefly married his daughter.
A Catricala - To be fair, he's her age (I'm 39, she's 22...don't judge...). Good guitarist, but a bit of a baby - had a habit of crying when told he was doing something wrong.
Christian McGuire - oi, that hurts ;) There's a difference, though - Geoff Tate ended up fired and the guitarist stayed. I gave our guitarist a choice - either dating my daughter or being in the band. He left the band (after I made it abundantly clear - several times - that he wasn't going to get everything he wanted). I'd told him a couple of months before that this would happen (when they first started chatting), so it's not like it would've come as a surprise. They both acted like I was the devil when I followed through, naturally.
This video had a bass playing ad. thats fucking hilarious
That's good, maybe the ad will motivate them to practice!
+STxEmpyre That's so perfect 😂😂😂
+STxEmpyre it would help if they could read
Jason Ross Touche
practise the guitar part but instead of 16ths use 8ths, and any other time, root notes and gallops should suffice :P
"a jealous lover will kill a band dead"
Yoko Ono
haha nice
she didn't do it.
pulsehead more like Courtney love
ThomasJake71 she helped in it though.
Kirsten Carlson She literally killed the band, if you believe she killed Kurt.
GREAT Video! As the lead singer of my band, I have had to deal with some of my ex girlfriends getting attention hungry and jealous. There is a reason they are now exes! "Ohh I love musicians" followed up quickly by "why don't you skip rehearsal and cancel the gig, I miss you"...blah blah blah! No need for that. I did however get lucky enough in the end though. My now wife to be is fully supportive, doesn't get jealous and even though she wishes she could come to more shows, she selflessly stays home with our two 3 year olds. Guys, if you have a jealous girlfriend kick her to the curb. A good one will come along who will support you and your music fully. And when she does, its well worth the wait!
Much happiness and warn regards.
You are a very lucky guy. Very well said!
Damn right. Amen to your advice. Girlfriends who get in the way need to become ex girlfriends!
wow! you found the right one! i guess my relationship is in danger then ...
It took many years of getting caught up with the wrong ones to finally find the right one. But the wait was worth it!
how to get a good bass player: get a bass player and not just reject someone as a guitarist and force them to play bass
Lol
What does it mean to be a bass player though? The type of music my band plays it's difficult however I'm able to play it well, there no improve so I'm not sure what are the setbacks of me playing bass even though I'm a guitar player
To be a good bass player*
@Klassic Beats 😂 what are you doing in here mane 🙏🤘😂
@Klassic Beats and it was a 9 month old comment lol. That's crazy
"if you're not in the band, don't give your opinion on the reverb level of the vocals."
-Glen, whom gives his opinions on everything, love your work man xD
Haha...great video. My lead singer in a band years ago brought a girl he was trying to get with to practice...she didn't like it when I called her "flavor of the month."
Lol that's fucking hilarious.
Ahahahaha
Is your lead singer Tom Jones lol? Regardless, that's hilarious. I'm guessing she didn't stick around for long.
He was a model for Armani.
+Troy Losse Ah, I see!
"Don't fish off the company dock"... I bet that would look great on an SMG T-shirt.
I feel like you would be a great drill instructor.
He actually looks like one of my DI's. Minus the hair of course
Probably why he’s a great producer
Glen will never shed his majestic locks!
Wow. I never knew how lucky I was. I mean, Stacy doesn't keep her mouth shut about "the reverb on that vocal" but she knows what she's talking about, so it's never caused any problems with other band members, but if I am offered a "last minute" (in punk rock, it is *ALWAYS* last minute) show, she's the one offering me a ride, rationalizing how this could be the last time I get to play before the apocalypse, or telling me how much I'll regret it if I turn it down. She's also my camera operator, CD-seller, and occasionally first-responder (again, it's punk rock). I have *never* heard even the slightest bit of disapproval from her about anything music related, and it's not just because she is being nice, she doesn't hold shit back. I've talked to other guys who have to negotiate with their girlfriend just to get her to show up at one show.....Sorry, you don't come see me play at least *SOME* of the time, you don't really love me. I know that kinda makes ME the overbearing jerk not unlike the one you talk about in this video, but anyone who knows me well enough to know that she wants to be in a relationship with me knows how important it is to me. Dating me and not going to shows is like dating Tommy Chong and not liking pot. . . it's just not gonna work out.
She sounds like a keeper.
WideOpenChange Yes, it's been a decade now.....I don't even want to *think* about "dating" again.
Your rant voice is amazing!
Glenn, this is possibly your greatest video. That whole first section where you describe how the singer chick's boyfriend is a controlling douche might be the best delivery of that information I've ever seen.
"Stage 5 clinger" is the best descriptor I've heard in a long time. That was coffee-spit funny.
Stolen from Wedding Crashers, but yeah, well done. I know that woman. Singers seem to attract them in droves.
How about MASH? Clinger was around before crashers.
I used to play in a widely known punk rock band in Miami in the early 90's. We had a nice following and a AR guy from Def American wanting to sign us, that all went against the wall because the bassist's girlfriend broke up with him and started dating the singer. Things would be fine until Yoko (our name for her) showed up and then these two clowns would start fighting, and this skank wasn't even worth it since she has a reputation with the other bands. Then the bassist quits and the guitarist brings in a 17 year old kid who's ten years younger than us, because of that, we couldn't play any clubs. What ever shows we played were like mini fiascos since it's time to hit the stage and our singer is nowhere in sight. Wait a minute, they're both in the men's room since Yoko is giving him a BJ and they decide to screw at the same time we start playing.
The record deal falls through, the kid quits because "he doesn't like playing with older guys", and the band breaks up.
Daaamn, sorry about that shit, man.
rickenbacker12 lol
If he or she is gonna cheat, they are gonna do it whether you're jealous or not. So don't waste your time on jealousy. Good topic Glenn. The channel is really killer man and it's only getting better. Rock on.
Jealousness often times is the cause of cheating.
Hm... My Boyfriend asked me to take me to his Band practice to meet the other Band members. I said okay, sat down and shut up and let the guys practice. After the practice I talked to the other guys to get them to know better.
I like their music very much but i never gave a judgement to what they where practiceing. I'm not in the band so I keep my mouth shut. When they have got a concert, I try to help them with their band gear and bring the stuff on the Stage. Then I watch their shows and after the show i try to help at their Merch stand selling CD's or Shirts.
You nailed it Glen! Its like the Kobayashi Maru Scenario but how about reprogramming the computer? ;D
Wow, you certainly sound like a decent girlfriend. 😁👌🏾
Huzzah! A woman of quality.
I had this happen to me about 2 years ago!
I dated a girl and she "loved music and bands" just not mine. Of course I was just being a good boyfriend and just wanted her to have a little fun. One day she thought she had the right to have a say in what we wear and how we have our instruments. I like having my guitar very low, she told me I need to have the guitar all the way up on my chest, that pissed me off. She told my drummer he needs to have his hands all the way up the sicks, which pissed him off. The next day both him and I told her "This is not your band, you have no say with happens to the way we play" yeah she was pissed but she had to hear it. She just wanted her to look like her favorite shitty NY band, I refused cause I refuse to look and sound generic as fuck. So everyone when Glenn says "Don't have boyfriends/girlfriends in the practice room" TAKE THE ADVICE!!!! It will save the arguing and headache. Oh and may I mention this. She also got pissed that I made my best friend the manager and here is why I made him the manager. He is in college for business and management, he's also not gonna fuck me over. Her line to me was "But I know music" when she really doesn't, which I told her.
So anyone that is starting a band seriously don't let your other half in. I know you don't want to be rude but they can survive a few hours or a without you, it's a day not 3 years. As Glenn said you are working, you don't have your half at your job so don't have them in the practice room.
More like How Yoko Ono broke the Beatles.
WRONG. John Fucking Lennon broke the Beatles by bringing his girlfriend bullshit into the band.
+Helium Road Yea cuz...JOHN did NOT..have the guts to go up to PAUL..and tell him he did not want to continue with the band...he knew yoko would be the means to and end
Well, John had a few douche personality traits, so that wouldn't surprise me.
Both John and George were seriously keen to leave the Beatles well before John ever met Yoko. And, ultimately John chose to walk away and pursue a new chapter in his life because he wanted to. But hey, why admit John was responsible for his own choices when it's so easy just to blame a woman.
+James Cole totally agree with you there. The majority of people blame Yokohama for the beatles breakup, but there was tension before she even entered the picture. If anything she helped give John the support he needed to do what he actually wanted to do.
I'm single for a very very good reason: I prioritize my music higher then having a relationship as a backpack! This so goes into my music production playlist.
I'd like to add... Don't let your significant other donate practice space: if the relationship hits the bricks, so does that space. And if you stored gear there during that fateful moment, can you actually get it back legally if they refuse to let you in? I was in a band in my formative years (drummer) and that's what happened to my first kit. Never saw it again.
Ouch!
I feel like if it is your they would legally have to give it back upon your request... I dont know tho im no legal expert that just makes me mad cuz drums r expensive 😂
"support the channel, but a shirt"
i lost it there, this guy is hilarious and gives great advice i love this channel
I can tell you right now that a jealous lover can not only ruin a band but ruin the musician in the relationship. It is my dream to become the lead singer in my own band but unfortunately I have an Ex who destroyed my self confidence so much that I got kicked off of my music corse a year early because I let his mental destruction of me bleed into my stage confidence. he would constantly cheat on me and then tell me about it in sickening detail before bragging to me about how much bigger the other girls breasts were than mine or how much skinner they were than me but then he'd get in a strop when I so much as shook someone else's hand. He even went as far as to pin me against a wall, get in my face and say "no one is allowed to touch you but me." It got so bad that even the music tutors intervened but by that point my confidence was so fucked that I would cry before every performance saying that I was a worthless shit who was just gonna go out there and fuck the whole performance up for the rest of my class band and when I did eventually get up on stage I couldn't interact with the audience and all I could do was stare at my feet, my tutors would end up having to separate me from the rest of the class and play instruments for me because I had crawled so far into my shell that if there was anyone else in the class band who could sing I'd make them sing and I'd take backing vocals and even when they separated me and played for me they'd constantly tell me off for trying to adapt my vocals to be hidden behind the instruments and my tutors really gave it everything they could to fix my confidence because they saw how much passion I have for music but in the end they just didn't know how else to help me. It broke my heart that I had to leave the music corse and I even remember sobbing and begging them not to kick me off because that music corse gave me something to cling to but I understand that due to how badly I let my relationship fuck me up there was nothing more they could do for me, my father was going to help me find a band because my dad is an ex musician himself but after I got kicked off the corse he refused to help me because the whole situation seemed to prove to him that I wasn't ready for a band yet. So beware of how fucked up jealous relationships make the musician themselves because it could very well set your band back to square one if your lead singer is so mentally fucked from a relationship that she can't even go on stage without crying and thinking she's a fuck up.
That's horrific, I hope you believed in yourself and continued along your musical journey 🙏
@@HeroSword_P unfortunately, I went back to singing in my bedroom alone. I’d love to join a band but I think I’ll just take some time to work on myself before exposing my issues to band members
@@whiskeydaniels6272 Look at musicians on TH-cam, Instagram, and Tik Tok, you can achieve a lot from your bedroom, good luck 🤘
@@HeroSword_P
If Covid taught us anything. I mean, look at Cannons (Female lead singer), their "Living room sessions" look better than a LOT of actual music videos coming out in recebt years.
@@whiskeydaniels6272
I know this is unsolocited, so feel free to completely disregard. Not only my above comment, but reading your initial post, but if you're still in that "place" with everything you went through... lean into it. Make it a spectacle, like a character you're playing. Sort of like Maria Brink or Gwen Stefani.
Going off on a limb, I'd wager you probably have a LOT of material and songs from having gone through that and while I HATE when people say "Everything happens for a reason", what I will say is to give it reason. Don't let it have happened to you in vain. What you have probably written about are things a lot of people can relate to... dont keep that from them. Allow others to not only feel what you feel, but to also process what they feel, through your music.
I was married with female singer of our band. There is nothing bad with this if you can separate family from band. Yeah, there were many situations in the band when we had strong conflict in a rehershal room but after this had a nice romantic evening. Even when we divorced, we still remained respectful band members. The band has broken up but our relationships weren't the case.
Glenn brother your videos never fail to cheer me up.
I was in a complete 'fuck it all' mood until logging into TH-cam tonight and being blessed with yet another rant video from yourself on top of your usual weekly posts; they resonate with me on a spiritual level!
Thanks for running such a great channel, much love from Surrey, England!
God, the movie "Spinal Tap" was profound on WAY too many levels....
Best advice I can give is tell every single girl you ever date "While I'm at rehearsal, you're divorced." at the very beginning.
glenn is a noble person...sharing knowledge by the experiences n i love his humor n rants
Hey Glen, greetings from Texas! Another great video. Man, I've been in a lot bands the last ten years and few things irritate me more than my bandmate's inseparable girlfriends. Seriously, some people have no life away from their significant other.
I fired my ex wife that was in a band with me BEFORE she became my ex :) Warned her--do the job-- do it better than anyone else or your gone. Thought I was kidding.
"If you want to contribute then go get lunch for everyone."
I'm definitely stealing that one.
This should be the shortest video ever... "Fuck that shit... Grow the fuck up"
Agree, man. What a silly question. What kind of a man would ever need help from a stranger(I assume he and Glenn doesn't know each other personally)to deal with this kind of shit. I bet the guy who ask the question might be just as pathetic and as insecure as that jerky "boyfriend" guy.
I can relate, i always had this kind of issues with my ex.
"I want to see you practice"
"I want to see you recording"
And then i would say no and she would made a huge deal out of it! (Crying, no talking to me, etc)
The best one was
"Why arent you answering my calls?!"
We where playing our first big gig in a bike fest rally...
"*RANDOM SCREAMING* support the channel, buy a shirt"
I love you
You're like Del Preston from Wayne's World. You have so much wisdom to share.
Do you know how long I have waited for this video.
Thank you, Glenn! I was recently in a hard rock band for four years and I have to say, I had problems with my guitarist and singer wanting to have girlfriends and other friends present for practice. I would tell them "Listen, you guys, it's practice. We need to practice; we aren't here to host guests at a time like this." And wouldn't you know it, there would be a complaint by the next week that "not enough work got done last week" from my old singer or guitarist.
Ever since I was 14 and in my first band there has always been one golden rule throughout all the bands. Keep relationships and band relationships separate. You can have them turn up at a gig but if they're at practice they'll distract you. If they're in the studio they'll distract you. If they're at the sound check (yes I've heard of this happening) THEY DISTRACT YOU! Having a relationship and being in a band is fine but you need to make them know what exactly the boundaries are. And don't be that guy who cancels on everyone at band practice last minute because "his girlfriend needed him" fuck that shit. Act like a real musician or you won't get a career in the industry full time touring if you're at her beckoned call 24/7. I'm not saying the band should always come before your partner because that's not right. I'm just saying the band shouldn't constantly suffer because of YOUR relationship issues.
My girlfriend is a great supporter of whatever I do with bands and prefers to be there because she grew up with her father in bands and loves listening. Plus she helps out with photos and videos for promo material. Gotta love a woman that helps make the band better!
now i never thought i'd actually use what i learnt in "relationship education" but if he's controlling her and deciding who she can speak to, that's abuse man. Get your singer out of that even if he threatens to kill himself cuz its always a bluff.
No. Not always a bluff. The second someone talks like that get them help. Tired of putting people in the ground.
i get that, but a lot of the time a guy will out of nowhere threaten to kill himself so the girl he is abusing stays with him out of guilt, and then he'll physically harm her for considering leaving him.
you are correct. stay away from crazy. hard to do in music. best wishes.
it sad that this could all have a really sinister undertone
True Iain. For my part I just want to see people live a long happy life. Then become a burden to society and break the back of the Corp. Masters. But what do I know? Just an old Anarchist--or was that Anachronism? Peace !
I ve seen a band that guitarist was with the singer and when they broke up, they still became good friends and are still in the band. They said the band is more impt.
This video should be called "#1 Orientation - So You Just Joined the Band". Of the 2K+ gigs I've done since I've been married (OK, well the married bit hasn't always been helpful) my wife has attended exactly THREE…
Rob K Music actually I'm curious, if you'll humor me- would you rather your wife attend MORE gigs? Or are you happy with the way things are now?
Thumbs up for the star trek reference!
There is actually an amazon link for bitch repellent in the description xD
+HeHoZy yep. :)
Ha! That's amazing, my ex girlfriend was in my band, I actually met through it. Damn was that a fucking mistake! Having relationships in bands is a massive mistake and so is having a mate with a girlfriend in your band.
Nice! Just saw that!
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That background music tho! Tell em' Glenn!!
I hope, one day, I can shake your hand, Glenn
"Don't fish off the company dock"
Two bands with people dating in the band. One broke up because of their relationship issues (although if I remember correctly the two dated before the band started). The other one stayed intact until our keyboardist and I left the band. After that the band has pretty much ended but I still stay in touch with them. In the second band dating was not a problem at all.
30sec of video, i bluethumbed alredy ^^
same here
Same, great intro
More people need to see this. Very important!! I'll probably send this to every new band member I get when they start just so they know
Her boyfriend is probably a bass player jealous of the other dude's intelligence.
This is spot on advice. Each band member is viewed as family. I might had peer, whether they are younger or older, male or female, they are musicians first and foremost. Thanks for sharing this.
THANK YOU!!! My singer's girlfriend needs to see this.
I am very lucky. The band I am in, and the last band as well, rehearse and record at my home studio. My wife NEVER comes into the studio except to say hi and brings drinks to the band members. She sells merchandise at gigs and otherwise, doesn't get involved. She has come into the studio otherwise very few times, … and always just if something sounded REALLY good and she wanted to compliment us. Couldn't ask for a more supportive wife. I am truly blessed!!
I can only imagine how you feel about Yoko Ono
To be fair, she was honestly the cherry on top of the shit icing, cake of fuck that the Beatles were dealing with.
Yep, the Beatles already had a dumpster fire and she just poured gasoline.
Oh hell nah not Yoko ono that psycho
I still can't get over that sick guitar tone in the intro of your videos \m/
Hey man! My lead singer/rhythm guitarist's mom runs our facebook page, and IMO does not do a great job.
I am an admin on the page, but I feel like I'm better equipped to be making a professional-looking image for our group (I've had experience doing it in the past, and have talked to friends who agreed with me that the band I managed AND played bass for had a much more professional looking page).
The system of her running most of the posts on the page seems pretty ensconced, and I'm not really sure how to go about taking more control of the page, especially since I am not a founding member of the band (I joined as a bassist after the band had been around for a while and through a couple bassists.)
If you see this, thanks!
Here's my unsolicited advice. It comes down to one of three options.
a) Honest communication
b) Trickery
c) Suck it up and deal with it.
The first option is obviously the best, IMO. If you can find a way to get your guitarist on your side, he can hopefully get his mom to butt out. If your band mates are smart, they'll agree that it doesn't look very professional for someone's mommy running their "business."
Alternately, you could hijack the page. This is bound to step on people's toes though. Especially if it catches them by surprise.
Finally, you could just let it go and not let yourself be bothered with it. If you can't do anything about it because people will get their feewings hurt, just brush it off. No sense letting things bother you if there's nothing you can do about it.
Bonus option! Rage quit and fire the drummer for no reason.
Wound up quitting the band because I was going back to school and planning on living about 5 hrs away from them, and man... The more I think of it the gladder I'm not involved with that group anymore lmao.
Good music, but it was a bunch of dudes stuck in a small town and not really willing to change to get out of there.
Also the whole "momager" thing.
Even though you're already out of the band, still want to chime in. The thing you said about "not being a founding member" doesn't mean jack shit. If you join the band and I'm assuming you handle just as much band duties as the other members, your opinion and stance is absolutely equal. As a matter of fact, it doesn't fucking matter who started the band because everyone is now putting in the work to make the band successful.
Also, now that I think about it, your opinion mattered more because you seemed to be the only who realized that someone's mother running the band page was a stupid idea.
I'm always worried about pissing off the girlfriends by existing. It hasn't happened yet (luckily) but I'm afraid jealousy will trump reality and the fact that I'm in no way attracted to any of my bandmates and just enjoy being friends and playing music. But hopefully things continue to go well as they have. Thank you for this video, Glenn.
To be honest, all this applies more to dumb kids or people that refuse to grow up. If you're remotely level headed none of this would ever become an issue.
Except most people in the music world AREN'T levelheaded and DON'T use common sense, and Glenn has made an entire YT channel out of that.
Good point.
Also, to be fair, it's advice for the person dealing with the person in the band with relationship issues, not so much for the person with relationship issues themselves.
Gosh i started watching the stupid text playlist till 330am lol. I'm on vacation and I was sooo hooked on those video, I know sad . But my goodness I had a great time watching them
It's good!
Kobayashi Maru! When you really hate to lose.....
Great video. Played in a band with a female singer for six years, and she dated our drummer for the first three. They split up, and we ended up kicking him out (it lasted about a week). It was a blessing in disguise, because we ended up picking up a much more talented drummer.
Yeah, I would want to remain anonymous if I were a fan too...
I love how you used andy chodery and joshua moronstein XD that was awesome!!!
Hahah oh Glenn, I could listen to you scream about stuff all day. Even if I don't care about the topic, I still just like listening to you telling people whats what. Stay angry.
Man, where was this video a few years ago? Great stuff, Glenn! Thanks!
The Subways made it work, somehow. Fuck if I know how.
The white stripes stayed together after there divorce
:::::::: :::::::: only for so long tho
probably the best ending to a video i've seen in years xDDD
"support the channel, buy a shirt"
makes me glad me and all my band members are male. no bullshit here lol.
Unless, after thinking about their life choices and sexuality, your bandmates start dating each other.
+Sandwhaler we all like pussy lol.
Yeah, because relationship drama never happens with all-male bands. Good thing you're in that super-unique sitiation where everyone in the band is a guy.
Based on the simple fact I have zero tolerance for this and no relationship shit has happened in my band. I must be doing something right.
I, too, define my band's success by the number of women we DON'T get.
The last second promo made me laugh out loud. Short and to the point.
my bands vocalist is fat
XD The tiny voice of the annonimous guy finally sayng "Don't put this in a video" XD and then... Glenn XDDDD
Excuse me!?!?!?! Im the boyfriend of the bandmate youre talking about!!!!
Jk 😢
Both myself and my gf are vocalists in different bands and it's always great to have eachother in practices, gigs even in recording sessions since we both know when we should open our mouth and when not to... it's always helpful to have free hands going out to get water for the band, help the drummer when the hardware gets lose, fix their sound, etc... even when her drummer couldn't make it to the soundcheck once i took a bus for 2 hours to be there, memorized one of their drum lines in the bus and did the drummer's soundcheck as if it's my band and i'll be drumming that night (i play drums aswell)... well she gets a little bit jealous sometimes since she's a female whether in my gigs or even when people come to talk to me when i'm not playing lol but she never says that during the gig which is so much appreciated coz all i need to do then is concentrate since i have so much effort to do on stage, u can say all 9 slipknot members in 1 person... so yea, you don't see that much but i guess i'm lucky we have eachother's backs even on this :)
it's all about respect, support and that pride u feel when seeing ur significant other having so much passion for the same thing that kept you still fighting for the past 8 years... even if one was not a musician as well they SHOULD appreciate what their significant other's passion is !!!
what do you say Glen ?
wow I'm early! hi glen
Loved the picture of Feuerstein. Great rant.
So perfect. "CHILL. THE FUCK. OUT." I love you Glenn.
When Glen said "its time to go to school" I just smiled and thought "Shits about to get real"
love your videos Glen.
Angry ranting Glenn is most entertaining Glenn
this makes me glad that my girlfriend is a huge supporter of my band and always knows that my band is my main priority. she's good friends with all my band mates and helps us with anything I need her to. she's the best and she's our biggest fan.
This is one of my favorite videos you made.
Wise words - GF at practice... Think Spinal Tap... On topic - but a different tack - some of the band mates you meet in your 20's are your mates for life - I'm still gigging with the same lead guitarist after 34 years (I'm vocals and rhythm guitar) - we've seen each other through a many failed relationships over the years and he even gave me a home for 18 months when my now ex wife made me homeless. Band mates are closer than brothers and can see each other through it all - respect the boundaries and always put them first...
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I see a lot of this happen, but during a tour to Germany we needed an extra singer. My partner was more than happy to come and she understood every aspect of touring without me having to even tell her. If anything it can help sometimes. Seeing someone being professional about your passion (and now theirs) is a great experience.
The problem with bands that suffer from this is being immature. If it is a job then be professional and make sure anyone you bring understands this.
Hate to admit it, but I kinda needed this 😶
Who would think that Glenn could help out with relationship problems *outside* of a band setting 😅
Man, You are the voice of reason! its that simple, treat them as family and stay fucking professional. love your channel, greetings from Israel!
That chuckle at the beginning lol. That’s when u know he’s about to lay down the harsh truth
Some people need practical advice. I'm a bass player and I support your point of view. Keep it up!
Every member of every band ever needs to watch this tbh
im a bassist and i love his t shirts
Every band member who has to deal with a mate's chick: "I'm getting to old for this shit." -Murtaugh buahahaha!
I love the newsround style
pictures in the corner. You're officially the new John Craven :-D
This is what exactly what happened to the Beatles. John started bringing Yoko Ono into the studio and it was one of the big reasons they broke up.
Glen love your videos bro, they're very informative and entertaining at the same time
Great point as usual. One more thing is that good old ultra-violence makes wonders sometimes...
My gf was at my house and I forgot I had practice so my band mates came over and my the bass player ended up talking about cars for an hour with my gf while me and the drummer and the rhythm guitarist played CSGO and watched Netflix. It was a fun night but we always end up just hanging out when she’s there.
"Its time to go to school"- Glenn Fricker. That's some classic shit hahaha
The band/personal relationships extreme tension thing worked for Fleetwood Mac and their album 'Rumors', though that would have to be a unique exception rather than any sort of rule. It worked for all of them creatively (and financially) though. Having said that, for them it was all in-house -- no outsider relationships.
Again Glenn, good sound advice that applies to life in general great video!
...and suddenly JF appears at 1:12 . Glenn, the sneaky comedy in your video editing is classic.
the thumbnail is the best. luckily I have not experienced this. I have brought my gf over to a fun recording session a couple of times, she laid down some piano and we all had a good time. I did it to get her off my back about going to band every week, and it worked.
My gf comes to practice all the time. But she doesn't talk, she just genuinely likes our music and likes to watch our creative process because she's a writer herself. Idk why im posting this. I guess im just showing off xD