I feel like even the empire would not be able to get away with destroying Ithor without some resistance from the populace. Yes the empire is really human first, but considering how loved the ithorians are. The empire and even palpatine may have thought it would not be a good idea to destroy Ithor for awhile.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Wellllll their princess is the leader of the rebel alliance and they were suspected of storing weapons. I respect Bail Organa, but he doomed his people the moment he started to fight the empire. Death Star or no, Alderaan would have been destroyed sooner or later.
The destruction of Alderaan backfired badly, due in large part to the failure of the first Deathstar so soon after its death. EDIT: The Guest Deathstar has returned to its own reality.
But then Revan wouldn't have turned to the dark side and won the Mandalorian wars. Which means we would all be speaking Mandalorian right now or be fight Mandalorians as they ravage our world.
@@BofaDee33 I mean after the Mandalorian Wars. Your taking it as during. Malakor 5 didn't become messed up until the end of the Mandalorian Wars. What I am currently saying is that before Malakor 5 is destroyed but after it became a wound in the force, what if the Ithorians fixed it. The Mandalorian Wars didn't continue after Malakor 5 gotten messed up
@@snichelsticks8653 maybe the psychopaths of the species are like that because they tried to fix dark side infested worlds? I’m sure that has no basis in the lore, but I think it’d be a cool concept to explore
I must admit, the Ithorians' Law of Life is basically what real life environmentalists would want to do for every tree cut down for lumber all across the world. Really nice similarity.
Most logging companies that are legit (Not the illegal logging industry in the Amazon) plant 2 trees for every 1 harvested, and cycle sections of land they own every 2 years so that the trees from 6 years ago become ripe for harvest. Don't believe the bullshit that environmentalists push; most legit logging companies are self-sustaining. It's the illegal ones that need to be stopped.
Well, my first impression of Ithorians came from KOTOR 2, so I have always considered them to be peace and nature-loving. (Sometimes even beyond the point of common sence.
As someone who loves Nature I find that I’d love to live on Ithor. I identify with Ithorians more than I identify with humans in the Star Wars universe.
Duros kinda deserved that reputation. A great deal of their species were cruel mercenaries and cunning con artists. It’s just they’re always used as fodder in Star Wars. Zabraks and Selkath on the other hand, well zabraks are fairly kind people known for being amazing fighters and selkath just want to be left alone.
@@masterqui-gonjinn90 that is some of the dumbest shit I've heard in awhile. But if your happy with that train of thought and sleep well at night then keep on keeping on.
@@masterqui-gonjinn90 Also what you consider “good” stereotypes aren’t “good” it’s harmful to place characteristics on people based only on skin color and not actual traits of that person. You’re literally attempting to justify the wrongful use of stereotypes which actively harms people.
Huh, I didn't realize Ithorians got a bad wrap. I always got the impression that they were pretty chill. I never realized they were this chill though. Definitely moved up on my list of races that are cool in the SW universe
I didn’t think many of the Star Wars races were monstrous, except for the brain vampires they tended to prey on other sentient beings until they were dead.
The 2nd book of the Jedi Acamdemy trilogy gave a short glimpse into this mindset the Ithorians had when Wedge Antilles and Qwi Xux travelled there. Particularly with their meeting with Momaw Nadon aka Hammerhead from the cantina in Episode 4.
still cant forget the scene in the box where onca is about to get stabbed by a laser blade that stops centimetres away from him then the one he leaning on impales him and he just like UUURGH
You can mine without effecting the surface, it's less efficient than open face (pit) mining but it is very possible. Ithor also has seas and depending on depth, seabed mining might be possible. There are questions about whether they went through a dirty industrial revolution in their prehistory, but once they could leave thier planet then they have plenty of moons available for mining in thier system ( 6 planets had 59 not counting outer system planets). The point becomes even less important once trade opens up.
You know, despite the first Ithorian I was exposed to being the Jedi Knight Roron Corobb, I actually didn't know the species as a whole was so nice, until this and another recent video you did on what species were closely aligned to the Light Side of the Force. Now I feel kind of bad about having their representatives in the Senate argue with the Wookies(Who I consider to be a really good species) in the first chapter of a fanfic I did. It's especially embarrassing because I also referenced the Battle of Duro in Operation Durge's Lance during the Clone Wars a few sentences prior, which I only learned because of your great videos, Geetsly. I guess I still have much to learn from the Grand Master Geetsly. As such, I look forward to the next video, and given it's going to be something related to the next new episode of the Bad Batch it will be guaranteed to be good.
So how do the Ithorians… eat exactly? I know they have two mouths on the sides of their necks but every picture of them that I see has multiple strips of skin or cartilage like a gill over it so I’m not sure how exactly they get the food in there. Must be a hassle to do so, or they may not even use their mouths to eat at all and it could be something else entirely. I couldn’t find any information that tells me how it works. It's kind of like the Elcor thing.
Wait... people don't like Ithorians??? I liked them, I liked them even more after playing Knights of the Old Republic 2 after learning of their love of nature.
The most wholesome Star Wars fact to date. No internal corruption, no power hungry leaders, no eating people alive, just a group of beings cleaning up after the galaxy out of the goodness of their hearts.
Every species develops its own survival strategy. The Ithorians show a united front as pleasant and non combative, not a threat to humans who run large parts of the Galaxy, but I suspect they can be just as cunning as anyone.
When one of a species' leaders is so based that Kreia has to resort to lying and ad hominem to counter his arguments, you know that they deserve respect.
The Ithorians were certainly the most selfless species within Star Wars, despite the handful of Ithorians who chose to stray away from their ideologies they were known for. Also there was another bounty hunter whose people was also known to be a peaceful race very similar to the Ithorians.
The Gran have two in canon terrible "named" representatives. Ree-Yees was a criminal outcast driven insane by not being around other Gran, and Mawhonic, who was shown being annoyed during his podrace run. Ainlee Teem seemed ok, if only being nominated beside Bail Organa, but we don't know if he was a "fair" politician or more like Mas Amedda or Orn Free Taa.
Well they were part of the nomination process to block the Republic from acting on the Trade Federation invasion of Naboo and move it to a committee. They seemed to me that they were part of the corrupt side of the Senate.
At the start you mentions species getting bad reputations based off of poor representatives. The gungans suffer from that the most. Most gungans are fairly competent, but Jar Jar's unusual clumsiness seems to make everyone think the whole species is clumsy. Although, they made the mistake of letting him represent them in the senate.
Gungans are generally insular and prefer to stay in the seas of Naboo. Jar Jar was sent because he was the only one willing to leave off planet, and with Padme as the senior partner, relatively harmless. An added bonus was they can rid themselves of Darth Jar-Jar while making it look like a reward for his “efforts”.
Ithor: a Star Wars version of Pandora. Pantora: basically Pandora with a T. Pantorans: Na'vi but Star Wars. Also Ithorian culture: take life, replace with double. Same thing as the Na'vi. Star Wars is based off of a lot of other films, like how Appo is based off of one of the characters from Avatar the Last Airbender
The nicest people who speak in the softest voice. But beware when they get angry. because their shouts will reach across the entirety of the galaxy. And they have many many friends who will come to answer their call for help. Trust And love are there by words of power. And that is something no evil can ever destroy. The galaxy is so much better and more beautiful because of these great people. A most welcomed addition to the universe. And people many are glad to say are our friends. ithorians, Masters of Peace. Regrowers of worlds. Bringers of good times. We are not worthy of them. But they still care about us regardless.
If only they had gone to Ruk's world, they could have helped the Nothgari in a few years an kept them from imperial slavery. Course that would have required people knowing about the Nothgari.
Would the Ithorians do anything for desert worlds like Tatooine and Jakku? Why haven't they started working on Jedha and Scarif? Could they do anything for Alderaan or Kijimi?
"Nice hat." - Cad Bane
That was my introduction to the personality of Bane
Bruh, just imagine those are the last words you hear
Aww thanks man WAIT WAIT WHY ARE YOU RAISING YOU BLASTER NOO-
LOL
"Where did you get it"
"murdered by Cad Bane over a hat"
top 10 sentences you should never have to say
Tf2 in a nutshell
"Ithorian was peaceful pacifist people.
Me: Conquered the Galaxy as Ithor In Hoi 4:Palpatine Gamble
This dude.
...Wait, what?
Iam as a stellaris player know how to deal with peacfull aliens.
@@MouldMadeMind Trade? Slaves? Trading slave?
@@Dianasaurthemelonlord7777 you got the spirit!
"Ithorians. Four throats. Very powerful."
"So I've heard" (picks ear)
I always thought she said war throats
Darth Vader: Happy Force Choking noises
Imagine if one became the dragon born.
@@puppetstudio4989 same
I feel like even the empire would not be able to get away with destroying Ithor without some resistance from the populace. Yes the empire is really human first, but considering how loved the ithorians are. The empire and even palpatine may have thought it would not be a good idea to destroy Ithor for awhile.
Then there’s the Yuuzhan Vong……
Nah palps dont cares
Didn't stop them from destroying Alderaan though.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Wellllll their princess is the leader of the rebel alliance and they were suspected of storing weapons. I respect Bail Organa, but he doomed his people the moment he started to fight the empire. Death Star or no, Alderaan would have been destroyed sooner or later.
The destruction of Alderaan backfired badly, due in large part to the failure of the first Deathstar so soon after its death.
EDIT: The Guest Deathstar has returned to its own reality.
The ultimate evil deed in KoToR 2 was harming those precious, sweet, ithorians.
Nooooooooooo...
You are worse than Krell
Fun though
what would you do for a hat?
cad bane: is it a nice hat?
yes
cad bane: kill a man
what would you do for a klondike bar?
cad bane:... a what?
I'm with Cad Bane here.
Tf2 in a nutshell
Imagine if Malakor 5 was still around, I would think the Ithorians would try their best to restore the planet without having to destroy it.
But then Revan wouldn't have turned to the dark side and won the Mandalorian wars. Which means we would all be speaking Mandalorian right now or be fight Mandalorians as they ravage our world.
@@BofaDee33 I mean after the Mandalorian Wars. Your taking it as during. Malakor 5 didn't become messed up until the end of the Mandalorian Wars. What I am currently saying is that before Malakor 5 is destroyed but after it became a wound in the force, what if the Ithorians fixed it. The Mandalorian Wars didn't continue after Malakor 5 gotten messed up
@@deadlydiamond Ah ya I see what you mean my mistake.
only issue.... the planet is a dark side nexus i fear for the sanity of the ithorians who attempt the terraforming
@@snichelsticks8653 maybe the psychopaths of the species are like that because they tried to fix dark side infested worlds? I’m sure that has no basis in the lore, but I think it’d be a cool concept to explore
Everyone always talks about the bad Ithorians but nobody ever talks about my boy, Roron Corobb
The Jedi slug needs some love
I mean I think technically he's more of a whale, but.....
*cleans ears* So I heard...
@@michaelandreipalon359 nice.😂
It's nice to hear of a wholesome race in the starwars galaxy
"They put the 'oop' in stupid." I got a good laugh out of that 🤣
Good old Marn... wonder what am happened to his group during and after the Jedi Civil War?
I must admit, the Ithorians' Law of Life is basically what real life environmentalists would want to do for every tree cut down for lumber all across the world. Really nice similarity.
I think most of the logging done here in Oregon requires 2 planted for each tree harvested...
Most logging companies that are legit (Not the illegal logging industry in the Amazon) plant 2 trees for every 1 harvested, and cycle sections of land they own every 2 years so that the trees from 6 years ago become ripe for harvest. Don't believe the bullshit that environmentalists push; most legit logging companies are self-sustaining. It's the illegal ones that need to be stopped.
The Ithorian guy from 2003 was a chad
Under the Star Wars motto: "when you go bad, you go BAD"
I always wondered where the line lay between just being a jerk or even being evil and falling to the dark side
Well, my first impression of Ithorians came from KOTOR 2, so I have always considered them to be peace and nature-loving. (Sometimes even beyond the point of common sence.
I always loved the Ithorians for their aesthetic but I never knew any of this! Great video! I love them even more now!
As someone who loves Nature I find that I’d love to live on Ithor. I identify with Ithorians more than I identify with humans in the Star Wars universe.
Given how humans are, I don't blame you.
I love the virtue signaling from keyboard warriors on devices built from child slave labor...how many kids died for this virtue signal
@@Roo-Smith I’m not even going to bother to answer that. Believe what you want but know your beliefs aren’t facts
@@Roo-Smith child slave labor? You think computers and phones are created by slave children?
@@Roo-Smith ..... then what are you typing from?
Ok, was I the only one who clicked a video called "why these two bounty hunters were absolute psychopaths" and then the title changed?
you're not alone
Same
not alone at all
I was confused about the thumbnail too
It was the thumbnail not the title
My opinion of Ithorians stems solely from the Ithorian Ambassador on Telos in Knights of the Old Republic 2.
I wonder if this makes them more force sensitive? Like the midichlorians are like HEY YOU GUYS ARE SO NICE TO LIFE, HAVE SOME MORE OF US
Please examine the Iridonia Zabracks, Selketh or Duro species please. They get SUCH bad reputations.
Zabraks and Selkath, actually.
Duros kinda deserved that reputation. A great deal of their species were cruel mercenaries and cunning con artists. It’s just they’re always used as fodder in Star Wars.
Zabraks and Selkath on the other hand, well zabraks are fairly kind people known for being amazing fighters and selkath just want to be left alone.
Duros is also a cool world, sort of what I expect ours to turn into.
Duros are mostly deserving of that name as they are a usually unfriendly species
How about the Falleen?
I wish an Itherian herd ship would come to earth
That would be the dream...
I'd go for ANY Star Wars ship tbh.
@@geetslys Until a Super Star Destroyer shows up
Everybody gangsta till the yuuzong vong world ship shows up........
Same
Masters of returning life to dead planets. What a Sith could do with that ability frightens me.
Ithorians sound wholesome as hell we could all learn a thing or two from these aliens
"Murdered over a hat"
*TF2 THEME SONG INTENSIFIES*
Watching this video makes Ithos' complete destruction at the hands of the Vong all the more upsetting
Love your videos 😁
Thank you!
Isn't that human nature though? Basing judgement on the small, worst minority?
Why sterotypes exist.
@@masterqui-gonjinn90 that is some of the dumbest shit I've heard in awhile. But if your happy with that train of thought and sleep well at night then keep on keeping on.
you know, racism
@@masterqui-gonjinn90
Also what you consider “good” stereotypes aren’t “good”
it’s harmful to place characteristics on people based only on skin color and not actual traits of that person.
You’re literally attempting to justify the wrongful use of stereotypes which actively harms people.
@@leflamewolf unfortunately I do
Rusty the Ithorian jedi: "Why does no one remember me?"
Huh, I didn't realize Ithorians got a bad wrap. I always got the impression that they were pretty chill. I never realized they were this chill though. Definitely moved up on my list of races that are cool in the SW universe
The Ithorians seem pretty chill ngl
I didn’t think many of the Star Wars races were monstrous, except for the brain vampires they tended to prey on other sentient beings until they were dead.
Cad Bane would basically kill anyone with a hat he likes and take it.
'4 throats, very powerful'
-Shaak Ti- literally a jedi who lives for 300 years and can come back from the dead without falling to the dark side
I love that Ithorian and weequay in the Bad Batch.😂
LOL! They are amazing background characters!
Nah, Gonky for win
@@kostakatsoulis2922 love gonky too.
One of the kindest species in the galaxy.
The 2nd book of the Jedi Acamdemy trilogy gave a short glimpse into this mindset the Ithorians had when Wedge Antilles and Qwi Xux travelled there. Particularly with their meeting with Momaw Nadon aka Hammerhead from the cantina in Episode 4.
Momaw Nadon is a good selfless guy. The original guardian of the Tafanda Bay.
still cant forget the scene in the box where onca is about to get stabbed by a laser blade that stops centimetres away from him then the one he leaning on impales him and he just like UUURGH
Ithorians are such a cool species
I absolutely love these hammerhead aliens, they look so awesome!
But how did they built these ships without damaging nature? I mean they had to get iron and all kind of stuff for that, right?
You can mine without effecting the surface, it's less efficient than open face (pit) mining but it is very possible. Ithor also has seas and depending on depth, seabed mining might be possible. There are questions about whether they went through a dirty industrial revolution in their prehistory, but once they could leave thier planet then they have plenty of moons available for mining in thier system ( 6 planets had 59 not counting outer system planets). The point becomes even less important once trade opens up.
So cool there nickname hammerheads the Galaxy calls them
It’s either hammerheads or T-heads that’s pretty much their N-word
You know, despite the first Ithorian I was exposed to being the Jedi Knight Roron Corobb, I actually didn't know the species as a whole was so nice, until this and another recent video you did on what species were closely aligned to the Light Side of the Force. Now I feel kind of bad about having their representatives in the Senate argue with the Wookies(Who I consider to be a really good species) in the first chapter of a fanfic I did. It's especially embarrassing because I also referenced the Battle of Duro in Operation Durge's Lance during the Clone Wars a few sentences prior, which I only learned because of your great videos, Geetsly.
I guess I still have much to learn from the Grand Master Geetsly. As such, I look forward to the next video, and given it's going to be something related to the next new episode of the Bad Batch it will be guaranteed to be good.
Is your writing public?
@@sean668 Yes. I've got my fanfictions on Wattpad.
So how do the Ithorians… eat exactly? I know they have two mouths on the sides of their necks but every picture of them that I see has multiple strips of skin or cartilage like a gill over it so I’m not sure how exactly they get the food in there. Must be a hassle to do so, or they may not even use their mouths to eat at all and it could be something else entirely. I couldn’t find any information that tells me how it works. It's kind of like the Elcor thing.
I didn't know about most of this lore.
This paints the events of the New Jedi Order series in a new and tragic light.
The ithorian jedi in the old clone wars cartoon was awesome
I wish humans treat Earth like ithorians treat Ithor
The chiss have the opposite effect their representatives are so amazing that everyone sees them as such.😂
Another thing about Ithorians, they apparently have a reaction time about a fourth of ours
How about a video about the Kel Dor and their planet Dorin if you haven't done one already?
Dok Ondar who runs the main store at Galaxy's Edge has his own comics and is by far my favorite Ithorian. (Not much of a competition tho)
Wait... people don't like Ithorians??? I liked them, I liked them even more after playing Knights of the Old Republic 2 after learning of their love of nature.
Same played the game so many years ago and again on steam a few times
@@TopRanger237
I only recently played it (either late 2019 or early 2020), but it's awesome.
Some of us humans just don't like compassion and nature...
So, planet Ithor is basically Pandora.😏
✌&❤
This is the same thing with real life politics, people judge a whole nation or race based on few bad represented individuals
I had an Ithornian action figure as a kid. i recall the feet were not stable.
Great video, thank you for posting! It was very informative about my favorite species!
Even before this video I always liked the Ithorians. A mindset I wish human beings had
The most wholesome Star Wars fact to date. No internal corruption, no power hungry leaders, no eating people alive, just a group of beings cleaning up after the galaxy out of the goodness of their hearts.
Every species develops its own survival strategy. The Ithorians show a united front as pleasant and non combative, not a threat to humans who run large parts of the Galaxy, but I suspect they can be just as cunning as anyone.
Hammerheads.
As nice as they are weird-looking. Easiest way to summarize Ithorians.
I Have Never Had of The Ithorians.
0:06 cought watto cought
"the up in stupid"
When one of a species' leaders is so based that Kreia has to resort to lying and ad hominem to counter his arguments, you know that they deserve respect.
The Ithorians were certainly the most selfless species within Star Wars, despite the handful of Ithorians who chose to stray away from their ideologies they were known for. Also there was another bounty hunter whose people was also known to be a peaceful race very similar to the Ithorians.
This brings back wonderful Kotor 2 memories.
Awesome video buddy
Thanks 👍
@@geetslys you’re welcome
The Gran have two in canon terrible "named" representatives. Ree-Yees was a criminal outcast driven insane by not being around other Gran, and Mawhonic, who was shown being annoyed during his podrace run.
Ainlee Teem seemed ok, if only being nominated beside Bail Organa, but we don't know if he was a "fair" politician or more like Mas Amedda or Orn Free Taa.
Well they were part of the nomination process to block the Republic from acting on the Trade Federation invasion of Naboo and move it to a committee. They seemed to me that they were part of the corrupt side of the Senate.
Great video, never knew about their role in the galaxy
At the start you mentions species getting bad reputations based off of poor representatives. The gungans suffer from that the most. Most gungans are fairly competent, but Jar Jar's unusual clumsiness seems to make everyone think the whole species is clumsy. Although, they made the mistake of letting him represent them in the senate.
Gungans are generally insular and prefer to stay in the seas of Naboo. Jar Jar was sent because he was the only one willing to leave off planet, and with Padme as the senior partner, relatively harmless. An added bonus was they can rid themselves of Darth Jar-Jar while making it look like a reward for his “efforts”.
Thank you for reminding me about the bad batch tomorrow
SHOUT OUT TO ITHORIANS
GOTTA BE ONE OF MY FAVROITE GENDERS
So could they terraform tatooine back to vegetation???
(Obviously I’m not really serious about that)
Hey cad Bane called. I think he wants his hat back.
*TF2 THEME SONG INTENSIFIES*
Ah The box, a SW version of Cube ;)
Light side hammerhead=Ithorian
Dark side hammerhead=Rakata
So they’re similar to Bosmer from “The Elder Scrolls”?
In some ways I mean.
Is no one going to say how cool Belduga’s glasses are?
i don't know why they don't seems to be their proper race lore but they take different route then the lore they take. Does anyone else realize that?
Ithor: a Star Wars version of Pandora. Pantora: basically Pandora with a T. Pantorans: Na'vi but Star Wars. Also Ithorian culture: take life, replace with double. Same thing as the Na'vi. Star Wars is based off of a lot of other films, like how Appo is based off of one of the characters from Avatar the Last Airbender
Pantora was introduced to Star wars before Avatar came out... Everything you said here would of been Cameron stealing from start wars.
so Cad Bane did galaxy a service when he kill that guy for the hat? nice.
Definitely one of my favorite species!🤘🏻
The nicest people who speak in the softest voice. But beware when they get angry. because their shouts will reach across the entirety of the galaxy. And they have many many friends who will come to answer their call for help. Trust And love are there by words of power. And that is something no evil can ever destroy. The galaxy is so much better and more beautiful because of these great people. A most welcomed addition to the universe. And people many are glad to say are our friends. ithorians, Masters of Peace. Regrowers of worlds. Bringers of good times. We are not worthy of them. But they still care about us regardless.
Influence lost: Kreia
Seedon gilfa seedon, seedon gilfa
Hmm, we first saw an Ithorian in EP 4 sitting in a hive of wretched scum and villainy...
he had a garden on Tatooine
@@goodmind4940 from tales of the mos eisley cantina? I haven't finished that book but I love it
Respectfully species not gonna lie.
2:15 Looks like turian armor
If only they had gone to Ruk's world, they could have helped the Nothgari in a few years an kept them from imperial slavery. Course that would have required people knowing about the Nothgari.
Ithorians are perhaps the best race in star wars
This is getting out of hand, now there are two of them!
Petition for the ithorians to go to tattooine! Lol
Why didn’t the Ithorians terraform Mandalore???
If you haven’t already, the Cathar.
What about Mandalore
I *LOVE* these guys!!
Pacific species
Ithorian
Caamasi
Lurmen
Felucian
Talz
Ortolan
Tarsunt
Would the Ithorians do anything for desert worlds like Tatooine and Jakku?
Why haven't they started working on Jedha and Scarif?
Could they do anything for Alderaan or Kijimi?
.... as said in previous episodes ....