If you don’t know then things properly don't dare to talk about that. According to your logic you cannot clam to be your father's son cause you didn’t see him even you cannot remember when you were child. Later you have been told and you believe. Nice hypocrisy.
Man, this awful Paradoxical Sajid level of logic shouldn't be used here Lmao. This is a false dichotomy, you're associating trust in the father figure with trust in a God. I have various evidence based reasons to believe in my father and they're listed below: 1) I can see that he is taking Good care for me in a way that no one who has zero obligation towards me would commit to that sort of a level. 2) I have medical evidence that proves that my father is indeed my father and this is based on consensus from my mother and my other relatives. 3) This is also not related to God because my father being my father is falsifiable through a paternity test, unlike the God hypothesis which isn't properly falsifiable. This sort of a fallacious argument would work in the past but you can see how ridiculous this genuinely is. I will tell you that since you call me out on the fact that I don't believe in something that I don't see then why don't you also believe in the other 4000+ Gods that you don't see ? Do you see Zeus ? Do you see the Christian God ? Do you see Shiva ? Yet you reject them only for Allah. This shows your hypocrisy of belief and faith. Remember, we atheists just go one God further, you are an atheist in 4000+ religions and we only go one God further. Also, blind faith and trust based on various reasons is not the same thing at all, if my father treats me like garbage then I obviously won't have blind faith in him.
@@EzelErica You are lucky. If Someone's father treats someone badly what should they believe? You never tested your DNA but you believe in science which changes over time. I never read Sajid btw. FIY it’s all about islamic belief. You must know all the religion talks about one god. Those who believe 4000+ gods that's a different argument. Lastly, I have a question what’s the purpose of this human life and whole creation? I don’t really understand the goal of atheism.
@@kaziakibjaved620 Alright, let's take a look at your reply point by point. 1) Why should someone believe that their father is their father if their father treats them like garbage ? That's because my father has shown various characteristics which only a father would show towards me, and if I have so much doubt then I can get a paternal test report from a hospital which has an accurate rating of being able to detect if my Father is my father or not through DNA testing. This doesn't mean that I have blind faith in my father, i am seeing various evidence based reasons on how he can be my father: A) All of society treats my father as if he is my father B) My father has similar genetic traits to me, for example if he is short then I am similar in height, if he has blue eyes then I have blue eyes, I also share facial structure with him that I wouldn't share with him if he wasn't my father C) My birth certificate says that my father is my father and I don't see a reason why my father would waste his time on saying that I am not his child instead of just telling me. Conclusion: And after all of this if I still have doubt then I can still test the fact that my father is my father through Paternal DNA testing which is highly accurate. This is different from pure blind faith that he is my father, because if some random man came up to me and said he is my father without any evidence then I will think he is a mad man who needs to see a psychiatrist, because he has no evidence that he is my father.
@kaziakibjaved620 2) Why should I 'Believe' in science which constantly changes instead of religion which never changes ? In the bible it says that the Earth is 6000 years old and that the Earth is Flat, this is an unchangable word of God which no matter what people can't not follow because not following it means rejecting God. Which means that science from religious point of view will no longer advance. Forever and ever people will Believe earth is flat and 6000 year old. But science manages to properly challenge this claim because SCIENCE changes. Science changing is not science's weakness it is it's biggest strength which makes it free from religion. A) If science didn't change then we would still follow the wrong ideas of ancient religions and and ancient 'scientists' Aristotle believed that woman had less teeth then Men and that Woman had colder blood then Man. Both of these arguments were debunked by other SCIENTISTS. Not priests or Imams, other scientists proved that Aristotle was wrong in this regard and in this way we approached truth in science, by correcting mistakes of previous theories and making better theories for the advancement towards truth. Let me give you an example through Chemistry. Democritus-> Atom idea was forged by him 2200 years later, John Dalton found evidence of this particle and called it Atom in honor of Democritus who also theorized about such a substance called atom. When the electron was discovered then this model came under scrutiny and was questioned about because how will we fit the electron ? Do you think science thought about, offending Dalton by replacing his work with a new Plump pudding model by JJ Thompson in 1904 ? No science didn't feel offense. And when JJ Thompson thompson failed to properly explain the atom through his work then rutherford came forward and presented his work which also had some flaws as his model was the solar system model. Niels Bohr fixed his model and finally the mistakes made in Bohrs model was fixed by Schrodinger using the Quantum model of his. In this way Science advances, it doesn't care what a past scientist thinks if its wrong or not as it always moves towards what works and can explain things the best. If you tell a scientist to just believe that the world is flat and 6000 years old then you can see that he would call you mad. Because there is no evidence for your theory other than your holy book just saying it. Science changes this way towards the truth and isn't locked up in any false belief for decades, Better science replaces faulty science. Never in the history of science did religious belief just replace the scientific observation. B) And this is Science's greatest feature over religion in that it goes through various changes unlike religion which will force you to believe that the world is flat and if you question this then you will go to hell, When you prove religion wrong you get killed, If you prove science wrong you get a Nobel prize. Conclusion: i can safely say that the fact that science changes is it's greatest feature and through various evidence we have regarding the credibility of the paternal test of DNA to know who my father is, I can tell that it is indeed my father.
@@kaziakibjaved620 3) " I have never read Sajid btw. FYI its all about islamic belief. " A) I am not exactly sure what you meant by this message so if you can explain I will be glad. I do know that Paradoxical Sajid is an Islamic apologist book and there were many mistakes within that book that you should also check when you read it aside from having blind faith in Arif azad. B) I have read both copies of the Paradoxical Sajid novel in 2021 but I have forgotten many things but I know that Arif Azad uses this weird Father argument to make Sajid an atheist which is a bad argument in my opinion. Conclusion: I am not sure what you meant by this but I will let you explain, because I do know that it's an islamic apologist book.
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If you don’t know then things properly don't dare to talk about that. According to your logic you cannot clam to be your father's son cause you didn’t see him even you cannot remember when you were child. Later you have been told and you believe. Nice hypocrisy.
Man, this awful Paradoxical Sajid level of logic shouldn't be used here Lmao.
This is a false dichotomy, you're associating trust in the father figure with trust in a God. I have various evidence based reasons to believe in my father and they're listed below:
1) I can see that he is taking Good care for me in a way that no one who has zero obligation towards me would commit to that sort of a level.
2) I have medical evidence that proves that my father is indeed my father and this is based on consensus from my mother and my other relatives.
3) This is also not related to God because my father being my father is falsifiable through a paternity test, unlike the God hypothesis which isn't properly falsifiable.
This sort of a fallacious argument would work in the past but you can see how ridiculous this genuinely is. I will tell you that since you call me out on the fact that I don't believe in something that I don't see then why don't you also believe in the other 4000+ Gods that you don't see ?
Do you see Zeus ? Do you see the Christian God ? Do you see Shiva ? Yet you reject them only for Allah. This shows your hypocrisy of belief and faith.
Remember, we atheists just go one God further, you are an atheist in 4000+ religions and we only go one God further.
Also, blind faith and trust based on various reasons is not the same thing at all, if my father treats me like garbage then I obviously won't have blind faith in him.
@@EzelErica You are lucky. If Someone's father treats someone badly what should they believe? You never tested your DNA but you believe in science which changes over time. I never read Sajid btw. FIY it’s all about islamic belief. You must know all the religion talks about one god. Those who believe 4000+ gods that's a different argument. Lastly, I have a question what’s the purpose of this human life and whole creation? I don’t really understand the goal of atheism.
@@kaziakibjaved620
Alright, let's take a look at your reply point by point.
1) Why should someone believe that their father is their father if their father treats them like garbage ?
That's because my father has shown various characteristics which only a father would show towards me, and if I have so much doubt then I can get a paternal test report from a hospital which has an accurate rating of being able to detect if my Father is my father or not through DNA testing.
This doesn't mean that I have blind faith in my father, i am seeing various evidence based reasons on how he can be my father:
A) All of society treats my father as if he is my father
B) My father has similar genetic traits to me, for example if he is short then I am similar in height, if he has blue eyes then I have blue eyes, I also share facial structure with him that I wouldn't share with him if he wasn't my father
C) My birth certificate says that my father is my father and I don't see a reason why my father would waste his time on saying that I am not his child instead of just telling me.
Conclusion: And after all of this if I still have doubt then I can still test the fact that my father is my father through Paternal DNA testing which is highly accurate.
This is different from pure blind faith that he is my father, because if some random man came up to me and said he is my father without any evidence then I will think he is a mad man who needs to see a psychiatrist, because he has no evidence that he is my father.
@kaziakibjaved620
2) Why should I 'Believe' in science which constantly changes instead of religion which never changes ?
In the bible it says that the Earth is 6000 years old and that the Earth is Flat, this is an unchangable word of God which no matter what people can't not follow because not following it means rejecting God. Which means that science from religious point of view will no longer advance. Forever and ever people will Believe earth is flat and 6000 year old.
But science manages to properly challenge this claim because SCIENCE changes. Science changing is not science's weakness it is it's biggest strength which makes it free from religion.
A) If science didn't change then we would still follow the wrong ideas of ancient religions and and ancient 'scientists' Aristotle believed that woman had less teeth then Men and that Woman had colder blood then Man. Both of these arguments were debunked by other SCIENTISTS. Not priests or Imams, other scientists proved that Aristotle was wrong in this regard and in this way we approached truth in science, by correcting mistakes of previous theories and making better theories for the advancement towards truth.
Let me give you an example through Chemistry.
Democritus-> Atom idea was forged by him
2200 years later, John Dalton found evidence of this particle and called it Atom in honor of Democritus who also theorized about such a substance called atom.
When the electron was discovered then this model came under scrutiny and was questioned about because how will we fit the electron ? Do you think science thought about, offending Dalton by replacing his work with a new Plump pudding model by JJ Thompson in 1904 ? No science didn't feel offense. And when JJ Thompson thompson failed to properly explain the atom through his work then rutherford came forward and presented his work which also had some flaws as his model was the solar system model. Niels Bohr fixed his model and finally the mistakes made in Bohrs model was fixed by Schrodinger using the Quantum model of his.
In this way Science advances, it doesn't care what a past scientist thinks if its wrong or not as it always moves towards what works and can explain things the best. If you tell a scientist to just believe that the world is flat and 6000 years old then you can see that he would call you mad. Because there is no evidence for your theory other than your holy book just saying it. Science changes this way towards the truth and isn't locked up in any false belief for decades, Better science replaces faulty science. Never in the history of science did religious belief just replace the scientific observation.
B) And this is Science's greatest feature over religion in that it goes through various changes unlike religion which will force you to believe that the world is flat and if you question this then you will go to hell, When you prove religion wrong you get killed, If you prove science wrong you get a Nobel prize.
Conclusion: i can safely say that the fact that science changes is it's greatest feature and through various evidence we have regarding the credibility of the paternal test of DNA to know who my father is, I can tell that it is indeed my father.
@@kaziakibjaved620
3) " I have never read Sajid btw. FYI its all about islamic belief. "
A) I am not exactly sure what you meant by this message so if you can explain I will be glad. I do know that Paradoxical Sajid is an Islamic apologist book and there were many mistakes within that book that you should also check when you read it aside from having blind faith in Arif azad.
B) I have read both copies of the Paradoxical Sajid novel in 2021 but I have forgotten many things but I know that Arif Azad uses this weird Father argument to make Sajid an atheist which is a bad argument in my opinion.
Conclusion: I am not sure what you meant by this but I will let you explain, because I do know that it's an islamic apologist book.
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