What's the Deal with Ribbed Hosing?

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  • @stigblue
    @stigblue ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I would be fine with the hosing if you at least would make it possible to connect (with ease) to other popular inlet and outlet types like lily pipes and other accessories.

  • @DRRemulac-n1w
    @DRRemulac-n1w ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was about to order one but the reviews changed my mind.

  • @craigbroderick8935
    @craigbroderick8935 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I've never understood why the hose connectors are grey and not black???

    • @stoneysscapes7544
      @stoneysscapes7544 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They were off white before the o7 series, and when they roll out the 08, I'm sure that it will be black

    • @craigbroderick8935
      @craigbroderick8935 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@stoneysscapes7544 I hope so

    • @greenthumbaquariums1185
      @greenthumbaquariums1185 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree they should be black. I painted mine, but it would've been nice to not have to take that extra step.

  • @slinkyscapes8530
    @slinkyscapes8530 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I like the fluval ribbed hose, it’s strong and durable.
    That said the negatives outweigh the positives.
    1. Fixed lengths can’t be cut to size.
    2. Oversized bend clamps are cumbersome and aesthetically an eye sore.
    3. As mentioned you can’t use 3rd party equipment, it has to be fluval.
    4. The ribs naturally hold debris and are way harder to clean.
    5. With ribs you restrict flow,it’s common sense, utility companies and domestic properties do not use ribbed pipes to supply water because of this as well as the effects of No4.

    • @SoundmanCH
      @SoundmanCH ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fully agree with everything you stated. In addition, these gray rubber connectors do not seal properly. I moved back to normal, clear hoses.

    • @musamusa3982
      @musamusa3982 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ex p

    • @semenially9614
      @semenially9614 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok 7vma

  • @FG723-78
    @FG723-78 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love my 307, it's an incredible design and super efficient. I really want to make a review video on it.

  • @flicknfreckles
    @flicknfreckles ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Could Fluval make a quick disconnect power supply? That way one would not have to unplug and take the cord during maintenance. Also, yes. Please get rid of the grey tips. All black would look much better.

    • @wilw900
      @wilw900 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      100% yes

  • @edgru1
    @edgru1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi, cool video thanks. I’m struggling choosing a best canister filter, and was only doubting for Fluval because of the hose, but you have helped with your explanation. Fluval it is! Now a question: could you install glass Lilly pipes and if so what size would fit? Thanks again

    • @fluval
      @fluval  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi there! We're thrilled to hear you're opting for a Fluval canister filter. It is unfortunately not possible to use 3rd party glass lily pipes with ribbed hosing, however.

    • @royalspin
      @royalspin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Trolling to makr a valid point perhaps ? 🤔😄

  • @hikinguphigh
    @hikinguphigh หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will you bring out an inline heater? Or atleast make an adapter so one can easily be added? I bought an aqua el flow inline heater but the fluval fx hosing does not fit well on even the biggest adapter

  • @ilianstoimenov6619
    @ilianstoimenov6619 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One of the things I always liked in Fluval is the hosing... Never understood why so many people complain about it...

    • @fluval
      @fluval  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We're happy you're a fan of it! 😄

  • @jesserolli7711
    @jesserolli7711 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So I bought just the gray tips that are on the ribbed fulvue hose, then I was able to splice in a inline heater. It's been working great, know leaks at all. Is this a bad idea or is it the solution you said fulvue was working on to be able to add things on?

  • @dougwolfedrums
    @dougwolfedrums 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1. Two 90° bends going over the rim of a tank does not “significantly reduce flow” in any noticeable manner. I’ve tested this with an FX6 and using a stopwatch the amount of time it takes to fill a 5 gallon bucket showed no discernible difference. The tolerance would have been within human error using said stop watch. Your rim clamps have opportunity for improvement.
    2. Ribbed hosing provides more surface for bacteria to grow. But it’s not clear, which is a plus so no light gets in. If you allowed both types of hose to accumulate stagnant water for a month and then rinsed them, the corrugated tubing would hands down have more CFUs and LALs in it.
    3. I simply don’t believe the 3rd party “1% loss of flow after 7 years” please provide that data and test method.
    4. All that stuff blows out because the corrugated tubing holds it until it gets air in the line… using a fishnet when you spend $400 on a filter is a pretty poor solution.
    5. I do enjoy your products! Just don’t love the mixed messaging sent here for marketing purposes.

    • @dr-mn7ld
      @dr-mn7ld 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The difference is that with the hose going into the tank you eliminate the chance of leaks from connections outside the tank.

  • @adler819
    @adler819 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I bought one of the hose cleaners online to take care of the issue with gunk coming out my FX filters when turning them back on. Just clean them out once a year.

  • @skidmarkx8672
    @skidmarkx8672 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think an inline on/off switch at the canister end of the cord would be quite handy.

    • @flicknfreckles
      @flicknfreckles ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed. Would be nice to have a detachable power supply cable at the unit, so you don't have to drag the power cord with you when doing maintenance.

    • @benoitlevesque9609
      @benoitlevesque9609 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@flicknfreckles I think ill modify mine with that. (he is no longer on warranty anyway!) Good idea.

  • @Alex_Correa
    @Alex_Correa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The collection of debris from tubes with the use of a net is normal o both types, though.

  • @willparsons32
    @willparsons32 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're absolutely right! "Plastic" hosing will indeed kink easily when applied the same way as the fluval ribbed hosing over the edge of the aquarium rim or rimless tank. That's why it's best to use vinyl hose instead!

    • @awoodward37
      @awoodward37 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who bends their clear hoses over the edge of the tank like that? Your lily pipes take the water of the edge of the tank with little reduction of flow. And the ribbed plastic hoses do crack if they get sun light over time.
      If clear pipes go a little stiff over time, who cares? They go into the custom shape that best fits your installation. If you need to straighten them, add some hot water inside the hose for a minute or two.
      A 37% reduction of flow over 4 months! Please show us the test and conditions during the test period. (Hoses left in the sun? No water flow during the period? High levels of Alge with "enriched" water added to feed the Alge?
      How does a simple pipe cleaning brush manage to clean the gunk from inside the ribbed hose? Oh, that's right, you just let it be flushed when the filter is turned back on.

    • @sarahvanderpool2454
      @sarahvanderpool2454 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fluval hose breaks so easily.. thats the frustration..

  • @scottfaris9175
    @scottfaris9175 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm happy with the ribbed hoses. My question is how do J install my in line UV light?
    Is there a kit? A short hose to add?
    Thanks in advance

    • @fluval
      @fluval  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi there! Here's the short hose that connects FX Series filters to the FX UVC Clarifier when it's wall-mounted: fluvalaquatics.com/us/shop/product/connector-tube-for-fx-uvc-in-line-clarifier

  • @jeffhester1443
    @jeffhester1443 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The ribbed hoses are very easy to work with and to route. Much easier than standard hose. I've never had a problem with them. Quick edit: Route and trim them with a little slack so they are not tight. Would like black not grey connectors also.

  • @Igor-q3f
    @Igor-q3f 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can you please make the gray connectors in black? thank you. those gray connectors are the first thing you see when entering the house.

  • @kermit3523
    @kermit3523 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Doesn’t work with inline heater really? I’m currently using it with inline heater for over a year without a single problem.

    • @fluval
      @fluval  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi there! When cut, ribbed hosing doesn't form a watertight seal. We only recommend making connections using the rubber connectors at each end of the hosing!

  • @flatbit3090
    @flatbit3090 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how does the rubber connectors fit on the flexipipe? Thanks

    • @fluval
      @fluval  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi there! The rubber connectors are permanently attached to the ribbed hosing and are used to connect to the filter. The intake and output assemblies include their own rubber connectors, which can be installed on the ribbed hosing once it is cut in half.

  • @joelynch4844
    @joelynch4844 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you please address the issue of disconnecting the valves on FX4 and FX6. It’s extremely hard to disconnect. As a matter of fact I’m currently looking to replace my FX filters because of this situation.

    • @fluval
      @fluval  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi there! To disconnect the AquaStop valves on FX Series canister filters, simply press the red button to release them and lift them up! 👍

  • @kirstensacheck1811
    @kirstensacheck1811 ปีที่แล้ว

    My fx6 hose developed a pin hole sized leak that flooded my living room after 5 months. Is there something this can be coated in to prevent future leaks.

    • @fluval
      @fluval  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi there, we're sorry to hear about this. Please contact our customer support team for assistance: fluvalaquatics.com/us/contact-us/

    • @royalspin
      @royalspin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Flex seal ,it works .Or just buy a new hose at their ridiculous prices or you could look for ribbed pond hose 20ft for $22 through Ace hardware and use the appropriate adapter for your application .

  • @ayoda1
    @ayoda1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When will there be a(n) inline UV system for the FX cannister filters? Great filters, by the way!

    • @fluval
      @fluval  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's in development! It'll be available by the end of this year. 👍

    • @twennywonn
      @twennywonn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You may be aware but they have one now.

    • @awoodward37
      @awoodward37 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Beware of uv filters, they break down the plastic in the uv filter housing over time, which leads to wonderful leaks! Great in theory, but not worth the damage in the long run.

    • @royalspin
      @royalspin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm using an in tank UV sterilization filter, and after using it for a couple of years ,so far,so good .A few reasons for why they can break down the materials is direct exposure to the plastic,long duration exposure times not to mention inferior plastics being used .The set up I have has a foam filter that wraps around the UV light , which blocks a good majority of the light exposed to the housing .Another thing that can contribute to premature aging of plastic is the fact that a lot of these lights are left on 24/7 when they don't need to be .I currently have two ,one of which has a timer option for the UV part of the filter and the other one I use on a as needed basis .

  • @roberttouro
    @roberttouro ปีที่แล้ว

    Any new all in one’s coming?

  • @dandyer8351
    @dandyer8351 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I dont mind it just wish the grey connectors were black please update these in future think many customers would prefer this thanks.

  • @kickassaz
    @kickassaz ปีที่แล้ว

    Fluvial can you make filter upgrades for your fluval desktop series.

  • @MikeInNature
    @MikeInNature ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Absolutely, and makes perfect sense. Thanks for the explanation! Still I would love to see fluval putting out a line of products with the FX power but focusing on aquascaping like glass/steel lily pipes, clear plumbing etc... At least make the diametrs 16/22 mm intead of 1" to make it more friendly to existing cometialy standard aquascaping stuff. 😉IMHO

    • @fluval
      @fluval  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Miguel, thank you for your comment and for your very good suggestion! We've forwarded it to our product development team. 😎

  • @nabokovfan87
    @nabokovfan87 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can tell you from my own personal experience and buying choices, I've specifically not spent money on a fluvial canister because of the tubing choice.
    I have the spraybar kit. I use a powerhead with it. I would love to get a 407 (or 408 when that exists) for my 75G aquarium. There's a few main issues.....
    1. Ribbed hosing is very likely used because it's either cheaper to produce in the end or it's purely used because of those rubber connections being "more user friendly".
    Just be honest about it, give us the opportunity to have normal tubing and use all the in line products.
    2. Ribbed hosing vs. Tubing.... so you're trying to compare algae and debris buildup on a pump test but you're literally using a clear (light penetrating) product vs. One that reflects light and blocks that. They make black tubing.
    3. I would argue the connector shown vs. "the other guys".... they are basically identical and both pretty close to 90 degree bends in and out of the tank. The difference is that most people want to use lilly pipes, which avoids this issue.
    4. Ribs, depending on the quality of the plastic give the hose a stress point. Flat walled tubing avoids that. If someone accidentally crushed ribbed tubing, it's likely permanent damage, with a flat wall it's likely not.
    5. You can buy different wall diameters for flat tubing to prevent the ability to kink. Python makes great clear tubing that doesn't kink easily and promotes good bend radius behavior.

    • @nabokovfan87
      @nabokovfan87 ปีที่แล้ว

      My best advice for the design team, from someone that wants to buy the product but is hesitant on doing so:
      1. Release the 8 series with normal tubing. As others have mentioned, black out as much as you can to avoid the grey connectors contrast.
      2. Improve the impeller so that the shaft is part of the impeller itself and therefore can't be broken.... this also makes it easier to replace.... or make it such that there is lower risk to break the impeller trying to maintain it. "take care to" is a very nice thing to say in a manual, but it's really not viable in practice.
      3. Adjustability or just an improved pump. If I go buy a HoB for a 10G.... I'm buying one rated for a 20-30G aquarium that I can adjust accordingly to what I want the flow to be.
      I would like to see basic HoB features in a canister that is vastly more expensive.

    • @dougwolfedrums
      @dougwolfedrums 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A sensible response- thank you!

  • @mikeykany1973
    @mikeykany1973 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not met anyone who likes the ribbed hoses. It’s just another way to make money by forcing a product on the customer.
    I have a Fluval 307 and it’s a fantastic filter, solid and reliable but the hoses went in the bin straight away as they’re not compatible with any of my other equipment.

  • @craigbrown7157
    @craigbrown7157 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you use a lilly pipe with this hose?

    • @401kdub2
      @401kdub2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      7/8in outer dimension 5/8 inner dimension clear vinyl hosing lily pipe and accessories 16/22mm will fit that hose perfectly 👌🏾

  • @retsel
    @retsel ปีที่แล้ว

    will a 407 hose fit a 207 canister filter?

    • @fluval
      @fluval  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi there! The hosing for the 207 is different than that of a 407 - we recommend using the one made specifically for the filter!

  • @matthewsmith6374
    @matthewsmith6374 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree with why it’s good. There is ways around to put inline equipment in, I have inline co2 on mine , might not be everyone’s choice though and I guess isn’t a straight easy fit. But you could just a thicker grey end( even if you have to add a sealer to the end of the ridged pipe before applying the grey end)that fits into the thread of the inline stuff and seals , so it’s the same as say normal 16/22mm pipe , or make a double connector, so one end the ridged pipe can go into and you can add normal pipe to the equipment. Or make inline products. Although most people who want Lilly pipes and hide equipment can just use clear hosing anyways then the pipe won’t go over the top of the tank.

    • @TheBootleLad
      @TheBootleLad ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Never had any issues with Fluval ribbed tubing on FX6 filters some running non stop for nearly ten years 👍

    • @stoneysscapes7544
      @stoneysscapes7544 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheBootleLad thats great for you and they are very good and easy as well to maneuver, but the only problem is adding glass or acrylic lily pipes are not worth the hassle and if you are going to be really "creative with the connections" Hello and risk a lot of water damage isn't the smartest advice !!!
      1 of the worst suggestions in TH-cam comments

    • @mdfahimKhan-bu5cu
      @mdfahimKhan-bu5cu ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @lmychajluk
    @lmychajluk ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to shorten some of my hoses, and maybe include the Fluval Inline UV Clarifier. I have purchased additional Fluval collars. Do I need to glue them onto the ends of the ribbed hosing? If so, what glue should be used (rubber cement? silicone?) Or is it sufficient to just 'screw' them onto the ends?

    • @fluval
      @fluval  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi there! We don't recommend shortening the hoses in that fashion. If you wish to add the Fluval UVC Clarifier to your setup, please note that it comes with a short length of hosing necessary for installation! Otherwise, to shorten your hosing, simply detach the hosing from the rubber connectors attached to the intake and output assemblies, cut sections of the hosing off, and reconnect the connectors. 👍

    • @lmychajluk
      @lmychajluk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fluval It's the 'reconnect the connectors' part that I'm having trouble with. I've been unable to remove the collars from the OEM hoses. Is there a proper method to remove and re-attach the collars on the hoses? I'm not sure why you would sell replacement collars if you don't recommend cutting and/or shortening the hoses....

  • @boebender
    @boebender 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The kink-free aspect won me over. I’ll take functional over aesthetics. Collapsed vinyl tubing is so frustrating.

  • @george230
    @george230 ปีที่แล้ว

    When r the Fluval FX clairifers comeing out.

    • @fluval
      @fluval  ปีที่แล้ว

      Later this year! 👍

  • @3xzsucof
    @3xzsucof ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We've been wanting inline heaters badly in my house.

  • @401kdub2
    @401kdub2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7/8in outer dimension 5/8in inner dimension clear vinyl hosing. lily pipe and accessories 16/22mm will fit that hose perfectly

  • @crazysithslave
    @crazysithslave 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I imagine its cheaper to make than all the other hosing types? And stops customers using other brands/3rd party equipment....

  • @EvenMadderMax
    @EvenMadderMax ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The worst thing with the fluval hosing is the ridiculous grey rubber that looks terrible in the tank, why it's not black is ridiculous.

    • @rolandtraynor
      @rolandtraynor ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree ,
      Its shame they haven't made a a black rubber version yet , only so that it disappears from sight once in water ,,, i love my Fluval 207 filter

    • @christophecorne809
      @christophecorne809 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rolandtraynor You can give them a few coats of black plastidip spray and they stay nice and black ;-)

  • @RotterStudios
    @RotterStudios 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seems brittle to me, which is why I use surgical tubing. Also, I need to cut it - I only need 2 feet, and I'm not risking that. I have it connected to my overflow of my saltwater tank so I don't use the assembly in the tank.

  • @neilohara6880
    @neilohara6880 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Fluval hosing is so noisy, how can you solve that?

    • @fluval
      @fluval  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi there! Ensure the hosing follows a straight path from the filter to the aquarium, with no kinks, loops or excess.

  • @lmychajluk
    @lmychajluk ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do you say the ribbed hosing is 'incompatible'? I used to run a Hydor inline heater w/ a Fluval 305(IIRC) w/o any issues, though I don't recall how I had the hoses configured. The Hydor connections were very similar to the connections on the Fluval inline UVC, though...
    It would be nice if you offered hose kits in a couple of different lengths, though, to accommodate an in-line accessory. I.e., maybe a 2x4' kit to allow for the inline heater.

    • @fluval
      @fluval  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Lee! In general, Fluval ribbed hosing can't connect to in-line equipment, as the ribbing prevents a watertight seal from being established.

  • @Em_Dee_Aitch
    @Em_Dee_Aitch ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been used in the swimming pool industry forever.

  • @miahlansky5550
    @miahlansky5550 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I amin fish groups and I told everyone fluvial rubbed hoses are the best doesn't cake or kink

  • @MarkKunie
    @MarkKunie ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ribbed for your pleasure ❤

  • @jassii__
    @jassii__ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ❤❤

  • @magwarblood
    @magwarblood ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not convinced

  • @IanHouldsworth
    @IanHouldsworth ปีที่แล้ว

    it blocks up far sooner than smooth hose

    • @fluval
      @fluval  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi there, that's actually not the case! As is shown at 2:57 of the video, third-party testing has demonstrated that regular plastic hosing clogs and experiences flow rate reductions far more rapidly and significantly than Fluval ribbed hosing.

    • @IanHouldsworth
      @IanHouldsworth ปีที่แล้ว

      i have to pull a bottle brush down the tudes every 2 weeks or so to remove the sludge from the tubes my tank isnt over stocked either i prefered my old fluval with smooth hoses @@fluval

  • @Bryan-oo9tx
    @Bryan-oo9tx ปีที่แล้ว

    I literally had to flush my hoses every five days. It’s annoying and tedious. Number 1 problem I have. Offer both. You say it saves times but only for the install. In the long haul it wastes time because the ribbed hoses get clogged very quickly and you have to waste time taking them off and cleaning them every couple days

    • @fluval
      @fluval  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi there, we're sorry to hear about this. There shouldn't be any reason the ribbed hosing of your filter needs to be cleaned every 5 days - doing so once every 6 months, while the filter is being maintained, is generally sufficient. It sounds as if there's something wrong with your filter installation, so we encourage you to contact our customer support team for assistance: fluvalaquatics.com/us/contact-us/

  • @dirtyprinz224
    @dirtyprinz224 ปีที่แล้ว

    No damn clips included make it make sense

    • @fluval
      @fluval  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi there, what clips are you referring to?

  • @MigHeart68
    @MigHeart68 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍

  • @jolly1039
    @jolly1039 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think in my opinion it's all about money and locking down it's ecosystem

  • @captainc0rgi
    @captainc0rgi ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Its ribbed for your pleasure!

    • @captainc0rgi
      @captainc0rgi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see no one has a sense of humor around here.

    • @cyntgrant114
      @cyntgrant114 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I do...🤣🤣🤣hella funny🤣🤣🤣

  • @craigsmart1986
    @craigsmart1986 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ribbed for your pleasure

  • @cyntgrant114
    @cyntgrant114 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cleaning tool I made...🤣🧰🤣
    VERSION 1
    1. Slightly stiff baby bottle brush, etc. If possible, slightly larger than tubing 2 reach n2 the ribbing. (4 both versions.)
    2. Cord, the length of the longest tube, then add foot and a half 2 it.***
    3. 1 heavy nut, screw, etc.
    Tie the cord 2 the handle of brush. The nut 2 the other end of cord. Drop the nut n2 the tubing and pull thru a few times during cleaning.
    Orrrrrrrrrr...
    VERSION 2 (More efficient)
    ***1. PVC pipe that will fit inside TUBING with wiggle room and the handle of the brush will fit inside PVC.
    PVC pipe measurement: HALF the length of the longest TUBING, then add half the length of that half 2 that.
    So the PVC should be just longer than the middle point of ur longest TUBING.
    U can also just opt out 2 the same length of the longest tubing. Just be sure 2 make it long enough 2 hold the end comfortably. Even add a handle if u like.
    Glue the handle n2 one end of PVC pipe. This version will allow u 2 turn the brush on the inside. Clean down as far u can by twisting in an up and down motion. Remove, flip the tubing and repeat.
    Hope this helps someone.😜💙