My husband and I were at Athens Church (Andy Stanley) one morning and they played a Dave Ramsey video. We were livid! We didn’t get up early and get dressed for that! We finally left there after going for 3 years. We found a small Baptist church and our Pastor preaches the gospel every single Sunday!
As a seminary student this makes me sick to my stomach...I pray I never fall into this worldly garbage or allow it anywhere near the people Christ places in my care!!
@Gospel Church & World No it doesn't sound pious and Holy it sounds like Biblical truth....I'm not sure if you know this but God actually provides for poor people and their temporal needs too.
@Gospel Church & World if you really believe that God provides for all of our needs then why did you think it was a good idea to talk down to Miami Night when they stated that there wealth came when they were saved and that there treasure was in Heaven along with the Heavenly Father???
@Gospel Church & World No not a dodge,you mentioned in your last post conflation which is exactly what you did when using 2nd Corinthians 9:8 as backing for your unBiblical view God's word .....that verse has absolutely nothing to do with earthly riches so there is no need for me to reply.....and you don't know me or how much Bible knowledge I may or may not have that's called presumption and as you have proven is a fools error.....and calling me Stupid shows how weak you argument really is, and if by Calvinism you mean predestination for salvation, irresistibley chosen by God and not anything to do with me, then yes ,I am a Calvinist....I'm not sure but it sounds like you're into the Word of Faith heresy.
We followed Dave's steps and we are out of dept. It was very helpful. I don't give to my church amymore. In fact, I don't go there anymore either. My wife still goes and tithes. I give outside the church as I feel lead. Churches should not ask for a tithe. Tithing money isn't even in the bible.
I'm a pastor of a very small new start church. i work a job to help pay bills. i made a comment in one of our district pastors meetings that the topic of discussion sounded more to me like we were trying to figure out ways to keep the money machine crankin than reaching lost people. seems i have not made any friends with comments like that. But it is true making money seems to be a main focus these days.
David Coleman, stay the course, Brother. Keep your eyes on Christ alone. We need solid, Bible teaching pastors who can point people toward the Truth of God's word. God be your strength, wisdom and might.
I was part of a similar church in Australia a number of years ago... this is making me twitch. All of this was common in my old church. The money talks, the manipulation, the drive for more new people at the expense of discipling the faithful sheep. The PTSD is kicking in. I'm so thankful that God gave me eyes to see the lies and saved me and my wife from this futility.
"When you meet this man named Jesus it changes the way you look at people." How about when you meet Jesus it changes how you look at yourself? You know, a sinner who needs to repent though the blood of Christ.
Edward Sather + sure Ed...that is how it is done. " Let's go Mega". Don't you think increasing a church's presence and membership could take a LITTLE more than that!?
These pastors in the examples are basically younger versions of the motivational speaker Tony Robbins, but using Christian lingo and meeting in large community center type Churches, with either a dove, hands praying, a star, American flag, or whatever symbol.
I wonder how you think a being can be pure and righteous when commands his followers to commit genocide, or purposely hardens someones hard against him and then punishes that person for having a hardened hard? Also, how do you know that everyones righteous actions is solely for selfish reasons? Are you physic? Can you see everyone's motivations? Or do you just believe everyone is a shitty person because that's what you've been conditioned to believe? Can people in your mind not want to be philanthropic because they just want better world in the here and now without any guilt or motivation by superstition? And even if someones philanthropy was motivated by selfish reasons like wanting to be remembered, that doesn't negate the good act itself.
Peregrino Everything we do is stained with sin that’s why we need the gift of imputed righteousness. We grow in our obedience but we could never stand before God in our own righteousness. James 2:10, Gal 3:10-11.
drl15son YEP...They sure do, their massiah is the almighty dollar, unfortunately for those nefarious charlatans, the money they love above our Most High and Righteous Elohiym don't have a hell to keep them out of or a heaven to put them in!!!
Anyone who goes to a church that asks for money or a certain percentage is not a church. We are suppose to help the church, but not required to give so much. I love the Orthodox church and the best one to trust. Please learn and read the orthodox bible and ask questions before you point fingers for we were first . Catholics wanted to change things and that is one reason we split, we WERE NOT going to accept changes to what was given to us. Also the infallibility of the Pope playing God over all Christians. The Patriarche is the leader of the Greek Orthodox, and another one is for Russians and another for the other individual, The only full leader of our church is Jesus Christ Himself!!!!!!!
This actually makes my stomach turn. My parents, my sister and her husband did this program. I did not realize how crooked it is. I was going to do it myself, thanking God now, that he kept me away from it. My heart is just torn from all the things myself and my family have been fooled by through the church. My sister and her husband want nothing to do with the things that God is exposing to me through His word about what we have been taught all of our lives. They are bound to these false teachers. Thank you for this video.
Remember folks, if you're not giving so much that paying your bills on time is in jeopardy, your faith is not big enough. -- paraphrasing a church we walked out of.
Give your last dollar! Doesn’t matter if the kids eat or you have gas to put in your car. This comes from small churches too. I despise emotional manipulation. Wish I had figured it out sooner. My sister went to a church about 20 years ago and the pastor scolded and preached about tithing and then passed out an entire box of tithing envelopes to everyone in the congregation! She felt horrible as she had no income to tithe from.
I came out of a prosperity church a couple of years ago, although I was raised baptist. one thing they always do is hype up the offering, they use music to sway your emotions and then they tell you GOD will only bless you if you give to the church, its also always at least 30 minutes long and by the time your done you realized you just gave money for 3 or 4 causes and they make bank!!! its a disgrace!!!!!!!!!!
You know I never realised that ALL these Pentecostal/Charismatic churches were preaching a prosperity gospel. Some of them sound legit, but you read between the lines and almost every sermon (if not EVERY sermon) is about giving money and being blessed. The devil is cunning in his deceit and he uses subtlety to great effect. This emerging church is all about money and steering people away from the Lord too. What gets me is that so many people are flocking to these churches. I mean if I had a spiritual need and sought God and went to Joel Osteen's church, after a couple of weeks I would realise that I'm not being fed and would leave. The question is, is it a lack of common sense or is it a lack of the spirit of discernment. I dont understand how people feel like they're being fed and are growing spiritually at these churches.
69829Dave I'm sorry for the confusion. I meant to say to that when I became an adult and started reading the Bible myself and praying (not in tongues) that I felt more filled with the Spirit than I ever had.
This channel is INCREDIBLY good. Keep it up BezelT3. Love your straightforward and scriptural approach to the subjects. We.came out of the charismatic/prosperity movement 3 years ago and have never been better for it. Biblical teaching is far more unpopular than seeker sensitive fairy floss. And brings in alot less cash...
The mega church I came out of the Pastor and his (Pastrix) wife are at the top of the pyramid scheme. They have four estates (a few lakefront) each with a value of about one million dollars. The only way they could have afforded this was off the backs of those people who were told that God would pour them out a blessing when they gave their hard earned money when they passed the bucket. (I guess a bucket is supposed to make you want to give more). I am so glad my eyes were opened to the prosperity gospel and now have nothing to do with this church. I sincerely hope others open their eyes to these wolves and get into the Word of God and see what it says for yourself.
rickovideo + you were kicked out by Jesus because you are a Gossip. They are lucky to get rid of you. Please shut those newly opened eyes of yours when you pass my Church and stay away.
Holy Ghost will guide you to the truth always. Jesus is the Truth.He opened your eyes. Jesus will be with you everyday until the last day of this earth. Keep searching him in private prayer. Jesus loves you.
The problem is that many of the "leaders" of these mega-churches are the ones experiencing the true prosperity. It is like Amway....the leaders suck all the wealth out of the organization while the loyal foot soldiers, mesmerized by the lust for wealth, do all the work.
Salt of Solomon + I know a lot of folks who want that cattle you mentioned... and are getting nothing. I am going to hit the " buzzer " on that comment of yours that claims to speak for the devil: go down to the welfare bureau...or a gambling casino... and tell me there is a shortage of souls sold out to the devil...and getting nothing.
Yes, Chris Rosebrough at Pirate Christian does a great job pointing out all of this crazy stuff going on in the Evangelical church of today. Also check out Todd Friel at Wretched Radio.com. I've found both of their podcasts to be very enlightening and eye opening!
Former attender here of SoCal OC megachurches. I admit, it can be quite the amazing experience! I understand how otherwise intelligent and wise people can get suckered. I can understand now how a cult can actually exist. Pretty impressive. The sr pastor at one of the OC megachurches I attended disavowed the title "pastor" and instead wanted to be called a "social entrepreneur". not kidding!
This video is awesome! I think all Christians should watch this and be aware of what your churches are telling you and how they are leading you. This critique continually goes back to what is important--that Jesus died for us to save us from our own death in sin and coming judgement of our heavenly Father who is loving and just. Stewardship matters, but THIS--this gospel truth is WHY we come together--not to be financially free, but to be free from the weight of our sin. Make sure THIS IS what your church is teaching you. Don't get caught up in feeding the beast of the megachurch--you will regret it. I promise you.
The bad part is that real Christians know this is exactly what Christianity preaches against. These poor souls have no clue that are damning themselves by listening to these wolves in sheep's clothing..
Amy Burke + Come on Amy... you are only thinking that it is " Our " Churches that need a spiritual spanking!? Nothing could possibly be wrong in yours...only correct doctrine going on in there, Right? Gimme a brake.
I would never attend a church that wasn't verse by verse. I would also never attend a large church. Just give me the Word one precept built on precept.
Great job bezel333. I had heard alot of people talk great things about Dave Ramsey but after seeing this video, he comes across as word of faith / pragmatic. About 3/4 through that video, the sales pitch from the church staff members was very irritating and down right manipulative.
My old church held FPU classes as well. My wife and I went through it and learned a lot about managing money. Within just a few years we're almost debt free, to include our home being paid off. Two college loans of ours, thousands of dollars racked up from poor choices, car loans, etc all paid off by using the technique he's teaching. Now we pay cash for everything, even for our two son's colleges. It truly was life changing once we knew how money actually worked. With all of that said, it shouldn't have been a Sunday Worship service presentation. Not being a slave to the lender is a biblical principle. Overall when churches bring this program in it does seem that being able to give more to the church seems to be the underlying theme they want you to take away. What good does it do to teach someone how to live debt free if you don't teach them about Christ who made the ultimate debt payment?
I went to a church that was always having offerings for one thing or another, the the straw that broke the camels back will rather the railway sleeper 😬 was Creflo give me all your dollars turning up 😖 ps the church is in Edinburgh !
It’s beyond my understanding how a true believer of the Salvation of the death and resurrection of our Great God and Saviour the Lord Jesus Christ. Could sit there and listen to that absolute garbage. God have Mercy. Thank you for sharing the truth
these false prophets have learned how to pimp out the word of GOD , if they continue to use GOD's word for the evil deeds they are engaged I am sure the Hell holds a reservation in their name for instead of leading the flock they have fleeced it. p s GREAT VIDEO
I am so sick of seeing and hearing my own small town pastor talk about books, books, books...every book he has ever read...he does talk about the Bible but not nearly enough...I am so sick of these books I could puke!
Find another church or start one you are not getting fed their pastor would rather proclaim money than the Gospel of Christ I would leave that church if I went their and the elders should defrock that pastor and get one who teaches the bible.
2 CoR 9:7 “So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver.” And 1 Corinthians 16:1-2 “Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given orders to the churches of Galatia, so you must do also: On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper, that there be no collections when I come.” It’s implied “tithing” is “giving” so tithing is implied in the New Testament.
Paul said he was the apostle to the Gentiles. They would not have known the Jewish Law. So how can it be implied that the tithe was still applicable? And what about Acts 15 where the very nature of the conference was how much, if any, of the Law still applied? The response didn't mention giving in ANY manner, much less the tithe.
David Ramsey's financial principles are sound in terms of staying out of debt but his understanding of Scripture is limited in my opinion. The Bible is a story of man's falling away from God and God giving us a path back to God via the Salvation Jesus gave us on the cross.
@Gospel Church & World David Ramsey believes that God wants everyone wealthy. This is not the case, while we are to be good stewards with our $$, there will always be the poor amongst us, Listen to him carefully and you will understand what I am getting at.
🙏💕“Dear Heavenly Father, I know that I have broken your laws and my sins have separated me from you. I am truly sorry, and now I want to turn away from my past sinful life toward you. Please forgive me, and help me avoid sinning again. I believe that your son, Jesus Christ died for my sins, was resurrected from the dead, is alive, and hears my prayer. I invite Jesus to become the Lord of my life, to rule and reign in my heart from this day forward. Please send your Holy Spirit to help me obey You, and to do Your will for the rest of my life. In Jesus' name I pray, Amen
I would love for this guy to come and preach this message to the orphans in Africa, for free of course!! It is so easy to preach this message when the audience is wealthy!!
Make no mistake, this is a profit-sharing venture. The church will put it on all the home groups as a mandatory task, which will guarantee sales of X number of units. The church will buy the units in bulk at a discount and then sell to the people at sticker price. Church pockets the difference. That’s why they’re so motivated to sell this on Ramsey’s behalf. He’s financially rewarding them for the hard sales pitch. It’s MLM 101. If your church is big enough to buy XX units, you can spend enough to get a personal visit. Ramsey builds his empire, churches get a cut of the profit, and poor people must pay-to-play if they want to advance in ministry.
I agree David Ramsey should not be doing his presentation during a Sunday service. BEZELT3, I appreciate your passion and dedication to God and telling it like it is.
These people sound exactly like Amway distributors. It's a word for word multi level marketing meeting. From the 25 minute mark forward it's the same exact deal. Disgusting. Atrocious behavior. Good point at the 20 minute mark too BEZEL. Well done. I was surprised to hear recently how much of a money maker the tours to Israel are for churches. I never thought of them that way. And on and on and on it goes with churches whoring themselves right and left and right again. It never ends.
I have heard him on the radio. I have never heard him speak. I am surprised. I am also so glad that I attend a normal church where my Pastor exposits the Word. He is also very approachable. When we organize community events, he is there sweating with the congregation. He invites us to his home for prayer. He is transparent to a fault. His wife has been through cancer treatments and it has been beautiful to watch he and she suffer well to the Glory of God!! PTL for the Pastors Of small churches!
Jesus according to Dave Ramsey: "Hi, there. Name's Jesus Christ. Friends call me JC. Can I tell you about the good news and life-changing products of Amway?"
I love three mega-churches that don't focus heavily on money. Two are in California an one is in Georgia. David Jeremiah is the lead pastor of Shadow Mountain Community Church who focuses on series based on books of the bible and so does the ministry of Dr. Roger Spradlin, and Dr. Phil Neighbors who are co-senior pastors of Valley Baptist Church in Bakersfield California. In Georgia we have First Baptist Church of Atlanta which is lead by Dr. Charles Stanley who has taught through the Bible over 40 years and was one of the most reluctant Southern Baptist Convention President.
Mostly good actually you misunderstood the comment. The examples I gave where actually part of a rare thing. They are not to be viewed as the normal way of mega churches
Actually the Catholic church has only existed for about 800 years according to secular academic research. Also the earliest forms of organization of the church didn't have a pope either. in this you are spreading falsehoods.
I listen to Dr. David Jeremiah's podcasts almost every day. I have much respect for him. His church is about 60 miles from my home. Very difficult to find a local church home.
More Mega Church Madness. Please check out a "sermon" titled "Killing Krytonite" It's sad. When does the entertainment end the worship begin. Thank you Bezelt3. Jim
He told on himself as he admonished his congregation for NOT knowing the word of God.....hmmm. I wonder who could be used to reach the word...a pastor perhaps...?
sorry to see Ramsey doing this. when we took his course, 10 years ago, he was speaking against the "stepping out in faith" financial call. He was the anti-this. yeah, even then, he seemed too stuck in the idea that financial security was the thing. but I thought, hey, that's his call and people need someone to help them learn to do the basics and figure out which disability insurance you need and which is a scam, that sort of thing.
thank you for exposing the darkness I pray that many who see this video would come out of darkness and enter into Yeshua(Jesus ) marvelous light holding on to the Word of God which cannot separate Yeshua (Jesus Christ ) from the Word of God for He is the Word become flesh! Salvation is His Name... we who are His brethren know what He did when He was filled with the Father's zeal. He threw down the money table and break out with the wip! I hope they all will repent... and strengthen those things which are about to die...
My wife and I took the financial peace class when we got married. The class gave us insight on how to manage the money God provides. Giving was one session out of several and didn't seem to encourage anything crazily unbiblical. This church is knowingly or not misrepresenting the class to influence its congregation. I think Dave Ramsey knows this, that he is a kick in the pants to someone who struggles with debt. His intensity is shocking, especially to those who need to be called out of a lifestyle of debt. I hope all is not lost for Dave and it's a shame his material is being abused by churches for monetary gain. On a side note, I have gone back to the materials (the class cost is for books, cds, work books, a filing system, and maybe more) many times for advice when financial situations arise. The materials explain concepts plainly and have helped prepare me for the language that financial advisors, tax preparer, and other people use. I'm just a worship leader, I'm not a financial guru.
Aaron Smith Was Jesus rich? He gave up everything and became human and died on a cross. God is concerned with your eternal life not your money. I'm not saying that money is evil and you should be poor, but tell somebody who has cancer to tithe. The bible proclaims we were made to glorify God not to live comfortably. There are people who are called by God to die for their faith, and Jesus calls us all to hate our own life and everything in it, then we are worthy to be his disciples. God bless you!
Charles Atcheson All I'm trying to say is that I want to manage the resources God gave me in a way that honors Him. Tithing, supporting my missionary friends in south America, providing for my family, these aren't bad things. But, you're right, Sunday morning service is for exegesis and the gospel!
Where are these people that help you pick up your groceries in the parking lot? I've only had people watch me struggle or pick up what I couldn't chase down to take themselves.
I do like these TH-cam video's. We need to get in the Word and read and study it for ourselves. Not depend on the church to do for us what we can only do for ourselves. No one can confess our sins but we ourselves....the Bible says we don't need any man to teach us we have the Holy Spirit.
Prosperity gospel is out of control. I recognized when I was caught up in it and something had to change, so I switched churches. Now I'm on the outside. 50 years invested in "hope", gone to the dogs.
I was raised in a very famous church, you've probably seen their music on television. I began realising how phoney it all was when I went to bible college (night school) run by a separate university - for one assignment, I taught a whole lesson using 'sayings', not scripture and wrapped it up by asking my fellow students "now who said that in history?" - they were all throwing books of the bible at me. They were appalled when they realised they'd been conned by 'fortune cookie Christianity' (for the record I did not lie or misrepresent any of these sayings as scripture). My next lesson, I opened with: "Don't be a M***F---er, God hates M***F---er's! Now let us turn to Leviticus chapter 20" - the lesson was a warning to Christians who use the "New Covenant" through Christ as an excuse to throw out the Old Testament. (for those playing at home - all Mitzvah's in the OT are reiterated in the NT, the way we meet some of these Mitzvah's and the penalty for breaking some of them have changed because Christ pre-paid for us, but the rules still exist). The final straw that caused my family to leave the phoney music church was when we sat through a Sunday morning and realised that the bible was never opened, and the word of God was not mentioned - NOT EVEN ONCE!!! We now attend a church that uses expositional teaching - the entire bible, chapter by chapter and verse by verse. No more money grabs (they don't even talk about it during service unless money/tithes are mentioned in the scripture we're up to that week), no more emotionally manipulative rock concerts, no more guilt trips for not volunteering because I was busy saving lives at work..... I feel like I've been let out of the matrix
Madame Poovie “Survived 2000yrs” ??! Catholics didn’t even exist back then.. on another note did you forget about the crusades?? They didn’t “survived” they just killed anyone who went up against their heresies!! The Catholic Church is the whore of Babylon! Whoring herself to anyone who will accept their “popes” and their idolatry! Come out of her before is too late...
Mariner's church is small compared to the catholic church. I went to one Christmas Eve service at Mariner's. It seemed hard to fit in when you don't have a young family. The church I do attend offered Dave Ramsey's course. I didn't attend because it is easier to read Ramsey's books. I love having friends at church but they way outstep their bounds by being bossy and difficult and wanting you to volunteer a lot.
Pam W the church today was built from the standard of the Catholic Church (protestants are daughters of the harlot). The 1st century church was NOT built in this manner. This church today is a beast religious system that is going to be destroyed. Come out of her my people. Time to get back to the original plan.
I agree because Luther himself was a catholic monk. The early Lutheran churches copied the mass liturgy music and worship service order. Bach wrote Masses and hundreds of chorales in the protestant doctrine. So I make a distinction between the worship service order and the doctrine of the Protestants. I also make a distinction between the different protestant (Methodist, ELCA Lutheran, Disciples of Christ and Presbyterian) denominations and the Missouri Synod Lutheran and Baptists, and Free churches. Your comment is vague because you don't say what you mean by get back to the original plan. Thanks for your reply!
Ron Budman why do you want these men to look good ? What benefit is there in clothing ? Do you not understand it's not how one looks on the outward appearance but what's in his heart that matters ? Love and Peace. . . . . .
Don't worry, they have plenty of money for clothing. These stage outfits have been carefully thought out by P.R. experts to present just the image they want. It is all for show.
I couldn't sit through a whole service with this kind of teaching! The word of God is exciting, powerful, and filled with hope, that this man's babbling is absolutely boring!
The value of a life is absolutely not based on "how much you gave away". That is extremely twisted especially considering the context of money and finances he just said that in. Luke 21. Bill Gates is exceedingly generous yet if he dies without faith in Jesus he will absolutely not enter into eternity in heaven.
My husband and I were at Athens Church (Andy Stanley) one morning and they played a Dave Ramsey video. We were livid! We didn’t get up early and get dressed for that! We finally left there after going for 3 years. We found a small Baptist church and our Pastor preaches the gospel every single Sunday!
@Gospel Church & World Rubbish.
You were livid, but you stayed 3 years?? 🤔
@@kaykerley8786 No ma’am, this happened not too long before we left for good.
@@kaykerley8786 it’s been two years since I left that comment, I had to go back and read what you were replying to! 😄
As a seminary student this makes me sick to my stomach...I pray I never fall into this worldly garbage or allow it anywhere near the people Christ places in my care!!
You know, we've always been poor, but my wealth came, when I became saved. My treasures are in Heaven, along with my Father. God bless 🕎🕊💜🙏
Amen, that is the wealth I am grateful for every day
@Gospel Church & World No it doesn't sound pious and Holy it sounds like Biblical truth....I'm not sure if you know this but God actually provides for poor people and their temporal needs too.
@Gospel Church & World if you really believe that God provides for all of our needs then why did you think it was a good idea to talk down to Miami Night when they stated that there wealth came when they were saved and that there treasure was in Heaven along with the Heavenly Father???
@Gospel Church & World it might be time for you to take a long look in the mirror and an even longer one into your Bible.
@Gospel Church & World No not a dodge,you mentioned in your last post conflation which is exactly what you did when using 2nd Corinthians 9:8 as backing for your unBiblical view God's word .....that verse has absolutely nothing to do with earthly riches so there is no need for me to reply.....and you don't know me or how much Bible knowledge I may or may not have that's called presumption and as you have proven is a fools error.....and calling me Stupid shows how weak you argument really is, and if by Calvinism you mean predestination for salvation, irresistibley chosen by God and not anything to do with me, then yes ,I am a Calvinist....I'm not sure but it sounds like you're into the Word of Faith heresy.
So odd that they charge for church seminars... especially financial ones 😅😅
We followed Dave's steps and we are out of dept. It was very helpful. I don't give to my church amymore. In fact, I don't go there anymore either. My wife still goes and tithes. I give outside the church as I feel lead. Churches should not ask for a tithe. Tithing money isn't even in the bible.
I'm a pastor of a very small new start church. i work a job to help pay bills. i made a comment in one of our district pastors meetings that the topic of discussion sounded more to me like we were trying to figure out ways to keep the money machine crankin than reaching lost people. seems i have not made any friends with comments like that. But it is true making money seems to be a main focus these days.
David Coleman I recommend you try visiting an Orthodox Christian Church or an Orthodox Christian Church Retreat that may help you find your way.
Is there anything that can be done to reverse that kind of mindset?
David Coleman, stay the course, Brother. Keep your eyes on Christ alone. We need solid, Bible teaching pastors who can point people toward the Truth of God's word. God be your strength, wisdom and might.
@Just Me AMEN!
David Coleman Where is your church PASTOR?? So many if us are LOOKING for the true House of the Most High GOD CREATOR Of HEAVEN AND EARTH...
I was part of a similar church in Australia a number of years ago... this is making me twitch. All of this was common in my old church. The money talks, the manipulation, the drive for more new people at the expense of discipling the faithful sheep. The PTSD is kicking in. I'm so thankful that God gave me eyes to see the lies and saved me and my wife from this futility.
@gospelchurchworld1230 rubbish you are typing here
Such an intelligent comment! Amazing....lol@@rispergichuki3172
"When you meet this man named Jesus it changes the way you look at people."
How about when you meet Jesus it changes how you look at yourself? You know, a sinner who needs to repent though the blood of Christ.
True
When churches want to go mega and beg from the Brethren, I turn away. Apostasy is incurable.
Edward Sather Me too. millions have figured out the truth about the daughters of the harlot!!
Edward Sather + sure Ed...that is how it is done. " Let's go Mega". Don't you think increasing a church's presence and membership could take a LITTLE more than that!?
These pastors in the examples are basically younger versions of the motivational speaker Tony Robbins, but using Christian lingo and meeting in large community center type Churches, with either a dove, hands praying, a star, American flag, or whatever symbol.
It's a money making business in the name of religion.
There is no value in any of our lives but the blood of Christ. All our righteousness is as filthy rags!
Yip - they read Luke 4:7 "If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine." but didn't bother to read WHO said it!!!
If "our righteousness is as filthy rags", then your deity doesn't actualy care about morality or being a good person.
I wonder how you think a being can be pure and righteous when commands his followers to commit genocide, or purposely hardens someones hard against him and then punishes that person for having a hardened hard? Also, how do you know that everyones righteous actions is solely for selfish reasons? Are you physic? Can you see everyone's motivations? Or do you just believe everyone is a shitty person because that's what you've been conditioned to believe? Can people in your mind not want to be philanthropic because they just want better world in the here and now without any guilt or motivation by superstition? And even if someones philanthropy was motivated by selfish reasons like wanting to be remembered, that doesn't negate the good act itself.
Peregrino Everything we do is stained with sin that’s why we need the gift of imputed righteousness. We grow in our obedience but we could never stand before God in our own righteousness. James 2:10, Gal 3:10-11.
Those Mega Church Pastors have another Jesus.
drl15son yup, there master is the god of this world. Sadly, they are leading all these people astray
drl15son
YEP...They sure do, their massiah is the almighty dollar, unfortunately for those nefarious charlatans, the money they love above our Most High and Righteous Elohiym don't have a hell to keep them out of or a heaven to put them in!!!
Don't forget their crotches!
Anyone who goes to a church that asks for money or a certain percentage is not a church. We are suppose to help the church, but not required to give so much. I love the Orthodox church and the best one to trust. Please learn and read the orthodox bible and ask questions before you point fingers for we were first . Catholics wanted to change things and that is one reason we split, we WERE NOT going to accept changes to what was given to us. Also the infallibility of the Pope playing God over all Christians. The Patriarche is the leader of the Greek Orthodox, and another one is for Russians and another for the other individual, The only full leader of our church is Jesus Christ Himself!!!!!!!
they spew doctrines of demons and preach a works based salvation, damnation is a fact of life for false teachers!
This actually makes my stomach turn. My parents, my sister and her husband did this program. I did not realize how crooked it is. I was going to do it myself, thanking God now, that he kept me away from it. My heart is just torn from all the things myself and my family have been fooled by through the church. My sister and her husband want nothing to do with the things that God is exposing to me through His word about what we have been taught all of our lives. They are bound to these false teachers. Thank you for this video.
Leah Shanley my family as well they don’t want to hear anything I have to say about the church their going to it’s so far from the Bible
Remember folks, if you're not giving so much that paying your bills on time is in jeopardy, your faith is not big enough. -- paraphrasing a church we walked out of.
Give your last dollar! Doesn’t matter if the kids eat or you have gas to put in your car. This comes from small churches too. I despise emotional manipulation. Wish I had figured it out sooner. My sister went to a church about 20 years ago and the pastor scolded and preached about tithing and then passed out an entire box of tithing envelopes to everyone in the congregation! She felt horrible as she had no income to tithe from.
I would have left the church and their envelopes would still be on the pew @@ritadyer3770
I came out of a prosperity church a couple of years ago, although I was raised baptist.
one thing they always do is hype up the offering, they use music to sway your emotions and then they tell you GOD will only bless you if you give to the church,
its also always at least 30 minutes long and by the time your done you realized you just gave money for 3 or 4 causes and they make bank!!!
its a disgrace!!!!!!!!!!
You know I never realised that ALL these Pentecostal/Charismatic churches were preaching a prosperity gospel. Some of them sound legit, but you read between the lines and almost every sermon (if not EVERY sermon) is about giving money and being blessed.
The devil is cunning in his deceit and he uses subtlety to great effect.
This emerging church is all about money and steering people away from the Lord too.
What gets me is that so many people are flocking to these churches.
I mean if I had a spiritual need and sought God and went to Joel Osteen's church, after a couple of weeks I would realise that I'm not being fed and would leave.
The question is, is it a lack of common sense or is it a lack of the spirit of discernment. I dont understand how people feel like they're being fed and are growing spiritually at these churches.
Princess Carlie good for u! I was raised Pentecostal but left when I became an Adult. Hopefully my parents will see the light.
Princess Carlie so true I have visited , ,egalitarian
I have visited mega churches I was so disappointed
69829Dave I'm sorry for the confusion. I meant to say to that when I became an adult and started reading the Bible myself and praying (not in tongues) that I felt more filled with the Spirit than I ever had.
This channel is INCREDIBLY good. Keep it up BezelT3. Love your straightforward and scriptural approach to the subjects. We.came out of the charismatic/prosperity movement 3 years ago and have never been better for it. Biblical teaching is far more unpopular than seeker sensitive fairy floss. And brings in alot less cash...
Beard Tech + so glad you are happy being sick and poor.
The mega church I came out of the Pastor and his (Pastrix) wife are at the top of the pyramid scheme. They have four estates (a few lakefront) each with a value of about one million dollars. The only way they could have afforded this was off the backs of those people who were told that God would pour them out a blessing when they gave their hard earned money when they passed the bucket. (I guess a bucket is supposed to make you want to give more).
I am so glad my eyes were opened to the prosperity gospel and now have nothing to do with this church. I sincerely hope others open their eyes to these wolves and get into the Word of God and see what it says for yourself.
rickovideo + you were kicked out by Jesus because you are a Gossip. They are lucky to get rid of you. Please shut those newly opened eyes of yours when you pass my Church and stay away.
The prosperity gospel is another gospel and happy to hear you got out of there
rickovideo Amen and Amen Brother!!! Money is the God of these folk! So very unbiblical to reduce everything of Jesus to money!!!
Holy Ghost will guide you to the truth always. Jesus is the Truth.He opened your eyes. Jesus will be with you everyday until the last day of this earth. Keep searching him in private prayer. Jesus loves you.
Im also out.. im glad im out.. they dont preach the Jesus of the Bible but a different jesus... stay blessed
Megachurches are the best fronts for new atheism
Very good job Bezelt3. First time I've noticed your videos. The whole thing saddens me terribly.
Robert Potratz awe, your beautiful..
the problem with the prosperity gospel is that it works. The devil will give you the cattle on a thousand hills if its this world that you want
perfect slogan and truth!
The problem is that many of the "leaders" of these mega-churches are the ones experiencing the true prosperity. It is like Amway....the leaders suck all the wealth out of the organization while the loyal foot soldiers, mesmerized by the lust for wealth, do all the work.
Salt of Solomon + I know a lot of folks who want that cattle you mentioned... and are getting nothing. I am going to hit the " buzzer " on that comment of yours that claims to speak for the devil: go down to the welfare bureau...or a gambling casino... and tell me there is a shortage of souls sold out to the devil...and getting nothing.
perfectly said
Salt of Solomon it works in this world. But in the afterlife they are less lucky.
You need to do a report on Gateway Church in Dallas.
This is good stuff, discovered you through the Messed Up Church blog on Pirate Christian Radio.
Yes, Chris Rosebrough at Pirate Christian does a great job pointing out all of this crazy stuff going on in the Evangelical church of today. Also check out Todd Friel at Wretched Radio.com. I've found both of their podcasts to be very enlightening and eye opening!
Ditto
Former attender here of SoCal OC megachurches. I admit, it can be quite the amazing experience! I understand how otherwise intelligent and wise people can get suckered. I can understand now how a cult can actually exist. Pretty impressive. The sr pastor at one of the OC megachurches I attended disavowed the title "pastor" and instead wanted to be called a "social entrepreneur". not kidding!
This video is awesome! I think all Christians should watch this and be aware of what your churches are telling you and how they are leading you. This critique continually goes back to what is important--that Jesus died for us to save us from our own death in sin and coming judgement of our heavenly Father who is loving and just. Stewardship matters, but THIS--this gospel truth is WHY we come together--not to be financially free, but to be free from the weight of our sin. Make sure THIS IS what your church is teaching you. Don't get caught up in feeding the beast of the megachurch--you will regret it. I promise you.
The bad part is that real Christians know this is exactly what Christianity preaches against. These poor souls have no clue that are damning themselves by listening to these wolves in sheep's clothing..
Amy Burke + Come on Amy... you are only thinking that it is " Our " Churches that need a spiritual spanking!? Nothing could possibly be wrong in yours...only correct doctrine going on in there, Right? Gimme a brake.
Amy Burke Yes, they are the NWO, DEMONIC, MANIPULATING, SATANIST'S, 501c3 PROSPERITY PIMPING PREACHER'S WHORE'S AGENDA'S....
I would never attend a church that wasn't verse by verse. I would also never attend a large church. Just give me the Word one precept built on precept.
Rich C ..Thank you! And that will I do..No more big church .Too many PROSPERITY PIMPING PREACHER'S...502c3 LOVER'S!
Great job bezel333. I had heard alot of people talk great things about Dave Ramsey but after seeing this video, he comes across as word of faith / pragmatic. About 3/4 through that video, the sales pitch from the church staff members was very irritating and down right manipulative.
My old church held FPU classes as well. My wife and I went through it and learned a lot about managing money. Within just a few years we're almost debt free, to include our home being paid off. Two college loans of ours, thousands of dollars racked up from poor choices, car loans, etc all paid off by using the technique he's teaching. Now we pay cash for everything, even for our two son's colleges. It truly was life changing once we knew how money actually worked.
With all of that said, it shouldn't have been a Sunday Worship service presentation. Not being a slave to the lender is a biblical principle. Overall when churches bring this program in it does seem that being able to give more to the church seems to be the underlying theme they want you to take away. What good does it do to teach someone how to live debt free if you don't teach them about Christ who made the ultimate debt payment?
To be fair to Dave most of us come to God for what he will give us. It is only later we learn to give ourselves to him.
thank you for the effort of putting this videos and make christians reflect on their ways. Im bless by this; thanks again
"The love of money is the root of all evil." It's all Idolatry.
One of the best video you have made.
Thank you for your sound teachings. I really do appreciate what you do!
you can not use the Holy Spirit, you must be open to let the Holy Spirit use you!
I went to a church that was always having offerings for one thing or another, the the straw that broke the camels back will rather the railway sleeper 😬 was Creflo give me all your dollars turning up 😖 ps the church is in Edinburgh !
The bigger the "church" the larger the Narcissist behind the pulpit.
Pfsif Absolutely
If anyone preaches a gospel other than this he is accursed including "prosperity" gospel
Do you think they'll go to hell?
ST8URCASE Yes..
That's what accursed means
It’s beyond my understanding how a true believer of the Salvation of the death and resurrection of our Great God and Saviour the Lord Jesus Christ. Could sit there and listen to that absolute garbage. God have Mercy. Thank you for sharing the truth
My wife and I just found you this morning. Would love to connect on Facebook.
these false prophets have learned how to pimp out the word of GOD , if they continue to use GOD's word for the evil deeds they are engaged I am sure the Hell holds a reservation in their name for instead of leading the flock they have fleeced it. p s GREAT VIDEO
Your videos are amazing. Thank you for sharing. They are extremely helpful to me. I am learning so much and I am very grateful.
I am so sick of seeing and hearing my own small town pastor talk about books, books, books...every book he has ever read...he does talk about the Bible but not nearly enough...I am so sick of these books I could puke!
Find another church or start one you are not getting fed their pastor would rather proclaim money than the Gospel of Christ I would leave that church if I went their and the elders should defrock that pastor and get one who teaches the bible.
Yes folks read your bible. I'm fairly certain that pastor just said the rainbow came before the flood. Big no-no, so long as memory serves.
Yeah, he did! Mmmm, it's like he doesn't know the Bible or something.
That's what I thought I heard! I thought my mind was playing tricks on me.
2 CoR 9:7 “So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver.” And
1 Corinthians 16:1-2 “Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given orders to the churches of Galatia, so you must do also: On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper, that there be no collections when I come.” It’s implied “tithing” is “giving” so tithing is implied in the New Testament.
Paul said he was the apostle to the Gentiles. They would not have known the Jewish Law. So how can it be implied that the tithe was still applicable? And what about Acts 15 where the very nature of the conference was how much, if any, of the Law still applied? The response didn't mention giving in ANY manner, much less the tithe.
David Ramsey's financial principles are sound in terms of staying out of debt but his understanding of Scripture is limited in my opinion. The Bible is a story of man's falling away from God and God giving us a path back to God via the Salvation Jesus gave us on the cross.
Agree. Great financial advisor but should not be speaking on theology.
@Gospel Church & World David Ramsey believes that God wants everyone wealthy. This is not the case, while we are to be good stewards with our $$, there will always be the poor amongst us, Listen to him carefully and you will understand what I am getting at.
An excellent presentation. Thank you.
Even the church that I attend, nazarene church, has gotten into this type of crap. I give offering every month. To my parents who are getting older.
Julio Smith good for you and them
Julio Smith That's right..These are the NWO evil PROSPERITY PIMPING FALSE PREACHER'S SODOMITE'S CHURCH..FREE MASON'S DEMONIC...
🙏💕“Dear Heavenly Father, I know that I have broken your laws and my sins have separated me from you. I am truly sorry, and now I want to turn away from my past sinful life toward you. Please forgive me, and help me avoid sinning again. I believe that your son, Jesus Christ died for my sins, was resurrected from the dead, is alive, and hears my prayer. I invite Jesus to become the Lord of my life, to rule and reign in my heart from this day forward. Please send your Holy Spirit to help me obey You, and to do Your will for the rest of my life. In Jesus' name I pray, Amen
I would love for this guy to come and preach this message to the orphans in Africa, for free of course!! It is so easy to preach this message when the audience is wealthy!!
Make no mistake, this is a profit-sharing venture. The church will put it on all the home groups as a mandatory task, which will guarantee sales of X number of units. The church will buy the units in bulk at a discount and then sell to the people at sticker price. Church pockets the difference. That’s why they’re so motivated to sell this on Ramsey’s behalf. He’s financially rewarding them for the hard sales pitch. It’s MLM 101. If your church is big enough to buy XX units, you can spend enough to get a personal visit. Ramsey builds his empire, churches get a cut of the profit, and poor people must pay-to-play if they want to advance in ministry.
I agree David Ramsey should not be doing his presentation during a Sunday service. BEZELT3, I appreciate your passion and dedication to God and telling it like it is.
These people sound exactly like Amway distributors. It's a word for word multi level marketing meeting. From the 25 minute mark forward it's the same exact deal. Disgusting.
Atrocious behavior. Good point at the 20 minute mark too BEZEL. Well done.
I was surprised to hear recently how much of a money maker the tours to Israel are for churches. I never thought of them that way. And on and on and on it goes with churches whoring themselves right and left and right again. It never ends.
He also teaches the practice of tithing off one's gross income, a doctrine nowhere taught in the New Testament.
I have heard him on the radio. I have never heard him speak. I am surprised.
I am also so glad that I attend a normal church where my Pastor exposits the Word. He is also very approachable. When we organize community events, he is there sweating with the congregation. He invites us to his home for prayer. He is transparent to a fault. His wife has been through cancer treatments and it has been beautiful to watch he and she suffer well to the Glory of God!! PTL for the Pastors Of small churches!
Jesus according to Dave Ramsey:
"Hi, there. Name's Jesus Christ. Friends call me JC. Can I tell you about the good news and life-changing products of Amway?"
Amen.Amen.Halleluyah .praise Lord .God bless you all .Amen.
New subscriber here - love your work - God bless!
Great video to glory of God. Thank you for sharing. Blessings!
I love three mega-churches that don't focus heavily on money. Two are in California an one is in Georgia. David Jeremiah is the lead pastor of Shadow Mountain Community Church who focuses on series based on books of the bible and so does the ministry of Dr. Roger Spradlin, and Dr. Phil Neighbors who are co-senior pastors of Valley Baptist Church in Bakersfield California. In Georgia we have First Baptist Church of Atlanta which is lead by Dr. Charles Stanley who has taught through the Bible over 40 years and was one of the most reluctant Southern Baptist Convention President.
Joseph Parker + He offers a Book for sale on every Broadcast. You are reporting money talk is rare...false.
Mostly good actually you misunderstood the comment. The examples I gave where actually part of a rare thing. They are not to be viewed as the normal way of mega churches
Actually the Catholic church has only existed for about 800 years according to secular academic research. Also the earliest forms of organization of the church didn't have a pope either. in this you are spreading falsehoods.
I listen to Dr. David Jeremiah's podcasts almost every day. I have much respect for him. His church is about 60 miles from my home. Very difficult to find a local church home.
So if Mariners in Irvine is not a good church .. what church in Irvine is?
May God have mercy on us for turning away from the Gospel to be “entertained”. This promotes the world view of “have it all your way”
I found myself facepalming when the clergy got onstage, one by one, to 'testify' how David Ramsey's teachings had changed their lives.
More Mega Church Madness. Please check out a "sermon" titled "Killing Krytonite" It's sad. When does the entertainment end the worship begin. Thank you Bezelt3. Jim
HURRY LORD JESUS!
He told on himself as he admonished his congregation for NOT knowing the word of God.....hmmm. I wonder who could be used to reach the word...a pastor perhaps...?
Can't believe I just found this video. Brilliant 👏 ❤
What does BEZELT3 mean??
sorry to see Ramsey doing this. when we took his course, 10 years ago, he was speaking against the "stepping out in faith" financial call. He was the anti-this. yeah, even then, he seemed too stuck in the idea that financial security was the thing. but I thought, hey, that's his call and people need someone to help them learn to do the basics and figure out which disability insurance you need and which is a scam, that sort of thing.
W Fla Thank you for the teaching's of his deception..God bless u dear..
Correct. But the rest of his understanding of the Bible and the gospel is poor
@Tiger Momma True, But definetly not from the pulpit.
thanks for the video. i appreciate it. i go to a Bible centered church because i appreciate hearing the scriptures.
that guys pants are so tight he can't even walk normally
Jami B Lol..so is his ugly face..
I was in The Way Ministry for 20yrs know anything about that place??
The rain bow came after the flood.
Christ and only Christ must be preached and followed...His Word, the Bible, must be read and studied.
Dave has changed from when I listened back in the 90's through 2005
Welcome to a lot of churches in New Zealand! More interested in money than souls.
I'm speechless!
SPEECHLESS!!
thank you for exposing the darkness I pray that many who see this video would come out of darkness and enter into Yeshua(Jesus ) marvelous light holding on to the Word of God which cannot separate Yeshua (Jesus Christ ) from the Word of God for He is the Word become flesh! Salvation is His Name... we who are His brethren know what He did when He was filled with the Father's zeal. He threw down the money table and break out with the wip! I hope they all will repent... and strengthen those things which are about to die...
Thank you for making this video.
@540 but, but, but then they would know hes conning them?
I looove your videos!!!
I think its very important on how to invest money and manage finances. Hearing week after week Jesus died for us... is not equipping the body
My wife and I took the financial peace class when we got married. The class gave us insight on how to manage the money God provides. Giving was one session out of several and didn't seem to encourage anything crazily unbiblical. This church is knowingly or not misrepresenting the class to influence its congregation. I think Dave Ramsey knows this, that he is a kick in the pants to someone who struggles with debt. His intensity is shocking, especially to those who need to be called out of a lifestyle of debt. I hope all is not lost for Dave and it's a shame his material is being abused by churches for monetary gain. On a side note, I have gone back to the materials (the class cost is for books, cds, work books, a filing system, and maybe more) many times for advice when financial situations arise. The materials explain concepts plainly and have helped prepare me for the language that financial advisors, tax preparer, and other people use. I'm just a worship leader, I'm not a financial guru.
Aaron Smith Was Jesus rich? He gave up everything and became human and died on a cross. God is concerned with your eternal life not your money. I'm not saying that money is evil and you should be poor, but tell somebody who has cancer to tithe. The bible proclaims we were made to glorify God not to live comfortably. There are people who are called by God to die for their faith, and Jesus calls us all to hate our own life and everything in it, then we are worthy to be his disciples. God bless you!
Charles Atcheson All I'm trying to say is that I want to manage the resources God gave me in a way that honors Him. Tithing, supporting my missionary friends in south America, providing for my family, these aren't bad things. But, you're right, Sunday morning service is for exegesis and the gospel!
Aaron Smith is tithing for the new testament church
Where did my other post go? I did 3
Where are these people that help you pick up your groceries in the parking lot? I've only had people watch me struggle or pick up what I couldn't chase down to take themselves.
Jesus antwortete: " Ich bin der Weg, und ich bin die Wahrheit und ich bin das Leben. Ohne mich kann niemand zum \Vater kommen. " ( Joh 14:6 )
I do like these TH-cam video's.
We need to get in the Word and read and study it for ourselves. Not depend on the church to do for us what we can only do for ourselves. No one can confess our sins but we ourselves....the Bible says we don't need any man to teach us we have the Holy Spirit.
Thanks, really enjoyed this
Very eye opening- Thanks! I thought Dave Ramsey preached the word- what a shock!
He is not a preacher not a Bible teacher. Use him for financial advice not to learn God's word
Prosperity gospel is out of control. I recognized when I was caught up in it and something had to change, so I switched churches. Now I'm on the outside. 50 years invested in "hope", gone to the dogs.
I was raised in a very famous church, you've probably seen their music on television. I began realising how phoney it all was when I went to bible college (night school) run by a separate university - for one assignment, I taught a whole lesson using 'sayings', not scripture and wrapped it up by asking my fellow students "now who said that in history?" - they were all throwing books of the bible at me. They were appalled when they realised they'd been conned by 'fortune cookie Christianity' (for the record I did not lie or misrepresent any of these sayings as scripture). My next lesson, I opened with: "Don't be a M***F---er, God hates M***F---er's! Now let us turn to Leviticus chapter 20" - the lesson was a warning to Christians who use the "New Covenant" through Christ as an excuse to throw out the Old Testament. (for those playing at home - all Mitzvah's in the OT are reiterated in the NT, the way we meet some of these Mitzvah's and the penalty for breaking some of them have changed because Christ pre-paid for us, but the rules still exist). The final straw that caused my family to leave the phoney music church was when we sat through a Sunday morning and realised that the bible was never opened, and the word of God was not mentioned - NOT EVEN ONCE!!! We now attend a church that uses expositional teaching - the entire bible, chapter by chapter and verse by verse. No more money grabs (they don't even talk about it during service unless money/tithes are mentioned in the scripture we're up to that week), no more emotionally manipulative rock concerts, no more guilt trips for not volunteering because I was busy saving lives at work..... I feel like I've been let out of the matrix
Madame Poovie
“Survived 2000yrs” ??! Catholics didn’t even exist back then..
on another note did you forget about the crusades?? They didn’t “survived” they just killed anyone who went up against their heresies!!
The Catholic Church is the whore of Babylon! Whoring herself to anyone who will accept their “popes” and their idolatry! Come out of her before is too late...
Christ died for my sins, NOT so that I could be a worldly success! These phonies have absolutely NO SHAME!!
Old dopey me I thought God wanted us to conform into the image of his son above All things but then again what do I know
Mariner's church is small compared to the catholic church. I went to one Christmas Eve service at Mariner's. It seemed hard to fit in when you don't have a young family. The church I do attend offered Dave Ramsey's course. I didn't attend because it is easier to read Ramsey's books. I love having friends at church but they way outstep their bounds by being bossy and difficult and wanting you to volunteer a lot.
Pam W the church today was built from the standard of the Catholic Church (protestants are daughters of the harlot). The 1st century church was NOT built in this manner. This church today is a beast religious system that is going to be destroyed. Come out of her my people. Time to get back to the original plan.
I agree because Luther himself was a catholic monk. The early Lutheran churches copied the mass liturgy music and worship service order. Bach wrote Masses and hundreds of chorales in the protestant doctrine. So I make a distinction between the worship service order and the doctrine of the Protestants. I also make a distinction between the different protestant (Methodist, ELCA Lutheran, Disciples of Christ and Presbyterian) denominations and the Missouri Synod Lutheran and Baptists, and Free churches. Your comment is vague because you don't say what you mean by get back to the original plan. Thanks for your reply!
quality content bezel! thanks again.
I find it interesting that none of these people can afford a decent suit of cloths.
If God doesn't care if you wear blue jeans and a golf shirt or casual shirt, why do you? This guy is an idiot!
Ron Budman why do you want these men to look good ? What benefit is there in clothing ? Do you not understand it's not how one looks on the outward appearance but what's in his heart that matters ?
Love and Peace. . . . . .
" Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." ~Jesus in John 7:24
Ron Budman I'm sure they didn't have suits in the 1st century. They were poor farmers. You sound like the Pharasees!!
Don't worry, they have plenty of money for clothing. These stage outfits have been carefully thought out by P.R. experts to present just the image they want. It is all for show.
I couldn't sit through a whole service with this kind of teaching! The word of God is exciting, powerful, and filled with hope, that this man's babbling is absolutely boring!
Letty Guerra yes!!!!! It’s so boring
i see the yardstick in the background, cheers!
Great Video
The value of a life is absolutely not based on "how much you gave away". That is extremely twisted especially considering the context of money and finances he just said that in. Luke 21. Bill Gates is exceedingly generous yet if he dies without faith in Jesus he will absolutely not enter into eternity in heaven.
Amazing! Well done!
Upon our deaths, our lives are measured by how much we gave away?