I remember Brecon St Mary's ! sadly only got the front 6 going but the folk there were very nice, and drove me up to the cathedral and showed me the tower & bells!! exactly right, what a maze up inside the walls!!
They have their fair share of grotty rings too, we just didn't go to too many of those! But yes, there are some fine rings in Wales. Beautiful countryside too, well worth visiting. And thanks- the 1k sneaked up on me! 🤣
Good to see some towers I know well, including my favourite six! The Cathedral actually sound really good in the belfry and the old bells seem to blend much better. St Mary's are fine but much too quiet in my opinion.
Are St David's your favourite six? Like Llanfeugan, I found them stunning outside but the sound just didn't translate inside, not helped by The somewhat grotty ringing environments. I liked St Mary, you're right they could do with a bit more volume and less tower sway! Cathedral were OK, nothing outstanding but user-friendly, once you've got up there at least! Very impressive how they are stumped in one corner of that enormous tower
Can I ask how Brecon St Mary’s Eb bells tenor is 13cwt but they sound exactly the same as Heavitree, Devon bells with a tenor of 25cwt?? Is there an incorrect measurement on Doves?
Oh my days yes, they do! I believe it's got something to do with the nominal which is the tone that the bell produces. The tenor at Brecon produces a nominal of 626.6Hz and the tenor at Heavitree produces a nominal of 622.0Hz therefore they produce roughly the same note of Eb. Other than that I am unsure of how a 13cwt tenor can produce the same note at the same pitch as a 25cwt tenor.
@@BellringerBen it's nothing to do with nominal or tone - more to do with thickness. I don't know much about it and don't want to give you false information, though I think if you have a lighter bell that is thinner, it can produce the same note as a heavier thicker bell (generally the heavier one sounds better) - it's the logic used to create 'ultralight bells' such as at Castleton, Derbyshire. That and modifying the shape of the bell can impact the depth of the note. A local example to me is Pagham near Chichester, where the tenor is 7cwt in F# (a bell that size is generally between 12cwt and 15cwt)
@@BellringerBen Francesco is right. It was probably heavily tuned and therefore deep for its note. The bells for example at Isleworth were heavily tuned and have a rather bangy tone to them. Bagshot too were heavily tuned and produce a rather let’s say interesting sound….
@@RingerThomas I don't think it was just down to the tuning, more likely the shape made it deep for its note as Fran has pointed out already. Before recasting, the old Redcliffe tenor was 39cwt yet still struck B, as does the new tenor with 11cwt more metal in it - I suspect the old bell was thin but shaped so it struck the deeper note. The tenor here sounds well for its age and weight but is a bit dead when struck on its own - not much hum or resonance - again likely as a result of how thin it is
I remember Brecon St Mary's ! sadly only got the front 6 going but the folk there were very nice, and drove me up to the cathedral and showed me the tower & bells!! exactly right, what a maze up inside the walls!!
They have some very nice bells up there in Wales. Wish I started ringing there before I moved house! Also congrats on 1,000 subscribers Simon!
They have their fair share of grotty rings too, we just didn't go to too many of those! But yes, there are some fine rings in Wales. Beautiful countryside too, well worth visiting. And thanks- the 1k sneaked up on me! 🤣
I liv in tredegar and go to brecon a lot but Iv never got to see the bells rang thanks
St David’s Brecon are like the back six of Milford on Sea!
Very similar as well to Oxenhope, Bramley (Leeds) and Nunburnholme
@@Ringer_Fran And also Barcombe, East Sussex.
@UC2z9sVBYj0PT1TDjOzV0f4g Not rung at either yet, Handsworth are meant to be very nice though 👍🏻
Handsworth are lovely bells, rang there many times. Darton are really nice too.
Llanfeugan sound like Rawmarsh!
Good to see some towers I know well, including my favourite six! The Cathedral actually sound really good in the belfry and the old bells seem to blend much better. St Mary's are fine but much too quiet in my opinion.
Are St David's your favourite six? Like Llanfeugan, I found them stunning outside but the sound just didn't translate inside, not helped by The somewhat grotty ringing environments. I liked St Mary, you're right they could do with a bit more volume and less tower sway! Cathedral were OK, nothing outstanding but user-friendly, once you've got up there at least! Very impressive how they are stumped in one corner of that enormous tower
Can I ask how Brecon St Mary’s Eb bells tenor is 13cwt but they sound exactly the same as Heavitree, Devon bells with a tenor of 25cwt?? Is there an incorrect measurement on Doves?
Oh my days yes, they do! I believe it's got something to do with the nominal which is the tone that the bell produces. The tenor at Brecon produces a nominal of 626.6Hz and the tenor at Heavitree produces a nominal of 622.0Hz therefore they produce roughly the same note of Eb. Other than that I am unsure of how a 13cwt tenor can produce the same note at the same pitch as a 25cwt tenor.
@@BellringerBen it's nothing to do with nominal or tone - more to do with thickness. I don't know much about it and don't want to give you false information, though I think if you have a lighter bell that is thinner, it can produce the same note as a heavier thicker bell (generally the heavier one sounds better) - it's the logic used to create 'ultralight bells' such as at Castleton, Derbyshire. That and modifying the shape of the bell can impact the depth of the note. A local example to me is Pagham near Chichester, where the tenor is 7cwt in F# (a bell that size is generally between 12cwt and 15cwt)
@@BellringerBen Francesco is right. It was probably heavily tuned and therefore deep for its note. The bells for example at Isleworth were heavily tuned and have a rather bangy tone to them. Bagshot too were heavily tuned and produce a rather let’s say interesting sound….
@@RingerThomas I don't think it was just down to the tuning, more likely the shape made it deep for its note as Fran has pointed out already. Before recasting, the old Redcliffe tenor was 39cwt yet still struck B, as does the new tenor with 11cwt more metal in it - I suspect the old bell was thin but shaped so it struck the deeper note. The tenor here sounds well for its age and weight but is a bit dead when struck on its own - not much hum or resonance - again likely as a result of how thin it is
My god 13 cwt in Eb! They sound marginally better than castleton!