Vlog 7: Gluing the insulation & fitting a Fiamma Turbo 28 roof vent to the Toyota Proace campervan
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.พ. 2018
- In this video I use Insta Stik low-expansion foam adhesive to install the Celotex insulation panels into my Toyota Proace campervan conversion. I also install a Fiamma Turbo 28 roof vent by jigsawing a hole in the roof then using a mastic sealing strip and cartridge sealant to stop any rain getting in (which has worked perfectly so far!)
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This was great to watch! My grandpa bought a 2003 Ford E350 XLT Super Duty Extended 15 passenger van and converted it to a camper. Took out all of the back seats, built a platform for his bed with storage underneath. Added curtains over the windows and added two vents on the roof. He loved that van. He really would have enjoyed your videos. Thank you, David!
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13:37 : Quick tip : Use any kitchen dish soap and mix it with water in a old windex spraycontainer. Spray generously on the sealant and your fingertip before running your finger ontop of the sealant. It will make a nice smooth sealant line and it will not stick to your fingers.
Happy to see that you have gotten good tools for your job to convert your van. And have become quite the mechanic. Great job mate 👍
I really enjoy the sped up bits with musical accompaniment, very "Benny Hill".
BTW, your videos are the best I’ve watched for van conversion, and I have watched many. I enjoy a good laugh and your humor is perfect. Thanks for taking the time to make these.
"stop moving you buggar!" a masterpiece of wording!
great work! you'll be done with the tricky bit soon by the looks of it! nice work!
Sometimes I forget I'm wearing the microphone :-)
Watching you cut into the roof for the fan I was thinking "that's gonna fall right through his shavings catcher" right before you stopped and taped it so it wouldn't fall. Sharper than a well aged cheddar you are!
Hi David, It really isn't that bad, you just need to make sure the pins are sticking out vertically from the surface and not bent otherwise the panel may wander a little. The big advantage is not having to prop everything up until the glue goes off. Thanks for the mention, I'll have to start paying you for all these ads. Keep up the good work. 👍🏼
Cheers Greg. I get so many people referencing you in my comments, I thought I'd better get in there first with an explanation! I still reckon I'd push it on straight but then find out I hadn't lined it up with the edge of the space it's going in to, so it would be skew or not push in fully. Hope this weather warms up soon for us both...
Think we’re set for another cold patch this weekend 😤
I love your: "woo-whoo"s! They give me such a chuckle!
Love your little videos mate keep them coming.
watching you cut a whole in the roof of your vehicle with a jigsaw gave me a feeling of vicarious dread
Love following the conversion. Very simple and well explained.
Thank you
2:50 Phew! Such a relief you weren't using the theme from The Benny Hill Show, or this vlog would turn from gluing the insulation .. to comedy. Absolutely loving what you're doing here, keep up the great job!
That was brilliant! God you’ve got pluck cutting a hole in your roof! That whoohoo was a lovely sound! Thank you for another fantastic video
Thanks Mandy! Wait til you see me cut the window holes... ;-)
EXCELLENT WORK, Dave. Enjoy every minute!!!!!
Thank you! Much appreciated.
Those are nice power tools! Good to see you supporting the US power tool industry :)
You don't bill yourself as a DIY expert, but after watching you do a handful of DIY projects, I have concluded that you are more knowledgeable than you let on. That thing you said about not liking a bunch of screw holes in the roof is a really keen observation that is missed by a lot of people.
Thank you! I'm definitely not billing myself as any kind of expert and the videos are not advisory, just a record of my build with any observations I happen to make :-)
When sealing around the outside of something if you apply strips of masking tape spaced 4 - 8mm away, then apply and smooth the sealant.
When dry you can peel away the tape and it will leave a nice sharp edge to the sealant.
Good tip!
Always great fun watching you work David...
Thank you
I love the van ignition start up at the beginning of each vlog!
Haha thank you. Now, do I confess to you that it's not actually the sound of my own van but a sound effect...?
What a great job so far I’m really enjoying watching you convert the van. The selection of tools is very impressive. I can’t wait to see the internal fit out. Thanks.
Haha, you and me both! Cheers :-)
Amazing series of very informative videos, doubly so as we are looking to get a similar van in a month or so. Keep the videos coming as I am certain they will be of immense value to us for when we start our build.
Thank you, I hope so - even if "what not to do"! :-)
:) Nice work.
When I cut the hole for my ceiling vent, I kept apologising to my van for hurting her. LOL.
Being lazy, when fitting the inside part of the vent, I just cut down the plastic to suit the depth and screwed it into the head liner. LOL.
Thanks again for sharing your build. :)
Cheers Jeanette. Cutting into it was quite an anxious moment :-)
Singing "The First Cut is the Deepest".
A very informative vlog, it is starting to look like a camper now. Very handy for you to have this when you are away from the boat, getting accomodation near events Like Crick can be tricky. 🏨
Really enjoy watching your vlogs,i came to this series from your canal boat,i enjoy watching your positive aproach to your tasks ahead,looking forward to the next vlog
Thank you. The van vlogs are a little more intermittent but they will be continuing :-)
Probably the most awesome of exercises so far..this whole job gets scarier with every episode.
Cutting holes in a vehicle..OMG. ..
Brave beyond brave.
Vans aren't made of as tough material as are narrowboats. ...
Yet you drill and cut and glue with abandon.
Love the curtain rail trick too.
Overall I can honestly only send you the very best of luck ...and equally honestly say it is all far to "beyond the pale" for me.
But more power to you. Oh brave one!
You've absolutely convinced me never to do anything like this. Oh no! The sound of drill into roof lives in my memory like the dentist drill....arghh.
Comfy chair and tea here please...we're not made of such brave stuff.....
You're right about the material - very much thinner than the narrowboat! Many thanks for your good wishes :-)
I have to admit your DIY skills are coming along nicely.Having decent tools truly helps too.
Decent tools really do help, absolutely.
It certainly pays to be OCD, a most professional job, you are to be commended. Nice video. Thanks.
Hi David ! 🙂 Hugs from California!! We love your videos! 🇬🇧🇺🇸
Thank you so much! 😀
i like ur van shows and have watched all 234 narrowboats can't wait to get back on cannel
Excellent video :)
A bit late looking at this one but well done, the fan looks great, I'm with you on the woop! after cutting the roof, very daunting. Best, Martin
Nice neat job Dave, well done.
Thanks Ken
Really enjoying the van build. You are doing very precise work, and everything is looking great. Looking forward to the next video. Also enjoy the narrow boat films too. Keep up the great work. Thanks for sharing with us. Davin
Thank you very much!
Some clever ideas there, especially the curtain tension rod as a prop! Also good to see nice safe use of tools like the mitre saw.
Thank you. I very carefully let the saw come to a stop etc as I was filming and I thought viewers would pick me up if I was too casual with it :-)
Great job well done.
Well being a builder, I use foam glue a hell of a lot! Looking to go down the convention route myself, but haven't got the time or free cash yet so for the time being I'll just enjoy your vids 👌👍
Good job! I always feel I have to throw a thought at the renovation/DIY gods when doing a job, where a mistake is a disaster!
Found you! Thanks for pointing me in the direction of this channel- looks like you're having a lot of fun over here! And some gret tips for my van as well. 👍
I am! Thanks for popping by :-)
I often refer to one of my cats as the little Bugger, because he is just that. You're doing a fine job, David. Spring is coming, can't wait to see you hit the road!😊👍
Thank you :-)
OMG you totally saved me by showing how to do this, put the fan on a wavy roof!!! I’m SO relieved! I will be going full time in a large van with, wait for it: three, 3!!!, cats! And all the added “accoutrements” as well as a smell. I was so dismayed before seeing your video, thinking I was doomed to either smelling yuck, or cutting out glass of back window and putting having a fan mounted to a metal sheet mounted in the window hole. Thank you ever so much!!!
I'm so pleased it was useful! Have fun in your van :-)
I do so much like your choice in power tools! DeWalt is just simply the best money can buy! :D
I hope so, they have a good reputation it seems!
Great vid on the installation David.... When the vent started dancing, as you were applying the sealant, I couldn't help thinking of my antique physics lessons of Newtons third law... For every action there an opposite and equal reaction. Very professional looking insulation installation for your first time.
Thank you. I was quite pleased with how it went. And yes, that wretched third law!!
great vid, thumbs up, loads of fun
Cheers
Very good indeed,
I would take my hat off to you if I had one, what a good idea to use those Spring poles, I have some of those but would never have thought about using them to hold things up, I wonder if they would hold up my trousers? Keep up the brilliant videos and thank you for taking the time each week to do them and edit them. Superb
Thank you very much!
Wonderful work 👏👏👏
Thank you!
When I done my ceiling vent I put the inside piece on and then finished sealing the roof, it’s good as it squashed all the sealant down and I just cleaned it up after, I guess yours set up top before you put your inside piece in. Enjoying your build!
Shhh... just between you and me, I had the same happen when I test screwed the bottom half on before I did the ceiling insulation etc. I didn't film it though because the sealant had half-set by the time I did it so it's bulged out rather alarmingly and doesn't look terribly pretty anymore ;-)
That was my thought also, so that I could be sure the fan was well sealed and set.
Well done you. Your diy skills have well inproved cutting holes in a van what next building a boat from scratch 😀😀
No-one can say you're not thorough. I don't think I've seen a van insulated quite to this level. It better be worth it lol
Your local DIY store must be loving you, keeping on popping back to buy more expensive power tools! 😀
Pretty much :-)
Very nice work, sir.
I like all those DeWalt power tools you are collecting, as well.
It’s shaping up to be a sweet little van, indeed.
Tally Ho
Thanks. I'm hoping to build a new cratch board for the boat using the tools once the van is done so they'll definitely come in handy.
6:05
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GREAT JOB to me, but oh course I've never converted a van before... lol...
But have helped my Dad convert one where he but a kitchen, bed, and a small sink @ foot of bed right behind the drivers seat. All made out of metal and the bed was also are table. He designed it his self. Then in my teenage years. We built a houseboat. But my stepmother sold it when he died. I was quite upsetting it's taken me over 11 years to let it go. But it's hard bc of so many good memories if you know what I'm saying.
I know you had to be a little afraid to cut a hole in your van, I know I would be, but I think your doing great. And you showed NO FEAR on camera. Your doing great. I can't wait till next time.
Cherry-o, Chris from Missouri
Thank you!
That was a great idea using those curtian rods to hold up the panels.
I was quite pleased with that myself ;-)
One of the things I am in awe of in you doing this is that it’s all being done on the side of a muddy track in winter! I bet you drink pints of old wallop in a single swallow whilst singing rousing canal shanties as well! :)
Haha, it's exactly like that!!
That is going to be seriously quiet inside when you’re complete. Also very warm. All the reflective silver foil will help keep you warm.
Thanks. The foil won't do a lot because it will be covered with ply and carpet (and without an air gap it is useless), however the thick PU foam (the Celotex boards) and the loft insulation should certainly keep things toasty. The only place I'm using foil as a radiant barrier (with a small gap) is on the floor.
Just excellent !
Thanks!
Glad to see you are reading a quality newspaper rather than a fake news tabloid / red top / broadsheet! 😎
:-)
Great plan, should be toasty, You may want to look into an adheisive called NP1. It is used to adhear roof flashing and vent bits to house roofs. But onece you glue something with NP1 do not attempt to ever romove it. I glued two 2X4s together, about 6 inches of both ends, and they were 8 feet long, waited 24 hrs, just to see how well it worked. I could put full weight, 22 stones worth of Texan, and the actual wood failed and pulled away before the NP1 had. We have huricanes down here on the coast, so using NP1 to adhear things is a good bet... cheers and as always, God bless
That stuff sounds excellent, maybe I could use it to bond the floor joists into the van (as I don't really want to screw them into the metal). I will look it up! Thanks.
If nothing else besides the van you are beginning to amass quite a collection of power tools and some nice ones at that.
I always reckon it's worth buying decent tools, they make jobs easier and should last.
Nice glueing David, ever thought of taking up Cake decorating. Keep up the good work.
Haha, maybe another time! Cheers
You are very brave. I just couldn't imagine having the courage to cut through the roof of my vehicle.
Woohoo! Look at you go. Doing an epic job! My dad used to , in very good humor, call gleeful slightly rowdy children, (little buggars) . When I got older I looked up the meaning. I don't think he really knew the meaning. Lol😅
Hahahaha
I'm sure your dad did know the "official" meaning, at least if he's a Brit, but it is also used as a term of endearment. Brits are funny that way.
Alternative meanings and uses are all over the place, such as the suggestion to bugger off doesn't have quite the same meaning as the one you looked up either.
Holy shards, Dr David, you certainly made a hole in that roof.
Wait 'til you see the ones I made in the rear doors...
You are a very industrious young man.
I'm not sure I'm either of those terms but thank you ;-)
I reckon it’ll be cozy when all is done.
I hope so!
David - I think you have excelled yourself here in all respects. You are accumulating yourself a fine collection of quality tools which may well be OTT for this job but are a great investment and will serve you very well in the future. some excellent initiative and the expanding curtain pole as a prop was excellent. No doubt in real time it is all done now and I look forward to the next episode.Just one question - where are you going to keep all the tools _ I know - you are buying a bigger van - 😂Shame I cannot give this vid more than one ‘official’ thumbs up 👍 👍👍👍
Thank you Norman. Yes, part of my thought is to buy tools that are worth buying for the long-term, for any future projects. And yes, I may have to buy a second van just to store everything in!
Looking Good So Far David :-) That's alot of extra equipment your buying :-)
Haha yes, I keep using the van as an excuse to buy tools!
You keep that up and you will have the tools needed to build a house next! Slippery slope David... Especially if you see my garage come workshop!
Haha, or maybe to fit out a sailaway narrowboat shell :-)
And just like that it is done, nice one bro. ATB
Thanks Ken
Great Job of the vent David ... just make sure your van is parked overnight under cover and never go out if rain is forecast ... only kidding of course
Haha, it's rained a lot since then and it's dry so far :-)
I used the same roof fan on my van. One thing I would recommend is to add a 12v dimmer switch to the circuit, to give more options than just full power
Cheers - see my later vlogs about the electrics :-)
Paul, did this 12v dimmer allow complete control of the fan from 0-100%? And also, does the fan push air in or out? I can't find any information on this, even in the manual which is worrying! Any help would be greatly appreciated :)
The dimmer circuit I added seems to permit about 10%-100% because any less and the fan doesn't get enough "oomph" to start turning.
@@samross4645 Yes the fan goes both ways. It has a switch on it "In, Off & Out
@@Vandemonium Thanks so much! Is the fan almost silent on much lower speeds for stealth and sleeping? I've seen a couple of videos of it on full and it's very noisy!
A rather curious use of an umbrella. Though it does fit the bill and could be used in this application. Good Job! The fan install may not win the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval but for all intents and purposes i will say it looks like an excellent job. I wonder was it nerve wracking cutting into the metal roofing? It would be for me!
I was surprisngly calm about it, all things considered. Concentrating too hard to worry!!
Brilliant 😊😀👍👍👍
Cheers!
How brave you are to cut a hole in the roof!!! I applaud your choice of Dewalt tools, in my opinion they are the best. I hope you got some remuneration from Dewalt to highlight their tools.
I wish I got a kickback from them too but sadly I just pay a lot of money to buy their stuff! :-(
Hi, i don't know if anybody has told you already but you have got your Thule Wingbars on backwards. The 'fat' edge is the leading edge which is also the most aero way to use them and the way they were designed to be used. Always enjoy your videos btw.
Cheers, yes that’s how they were when I bought the van; they have since been switched around.
Impressive David. Like your dedication down to priming the cut edges. Some would not go that far.
It seemed sensible and easy to to so worth it!
Thanks again for sharing. I love your command of language wich mixes, in a delightful way, "A synphony of hole" and "a shitload of sealant". While I love the way you insulate the van-would this not be a good time to get the first cables in, especially the ones that power the fan?
SHEDload!! I very carefully didn't say "shitload" :-)
hi david you are doing a fine job bob in derby 10+
Cheers Bob!
A serious building accomplishment, David. This totally wipes out any light-hearted comment I could offer, being it was such a dull day and all...have you pinched a finger in contracting your ladder yet? (I have given you fair warning!).
Duly noted! Thank you :-)
Hi there. Great videos and I love your honesty in them, very down to earth :) I wonder if you could tell me if the fan pushes or pulls air in/out of the vehicle? I can't find any information on this, even in the manual online! Also, how often do you actually use the fan as I'm wondering if just the vent in itself will be suitable for my micro Vauxhall Combo build. Any help would be greatly appreciated :)
The fan has a switch so that it pushes or pulls as you require. I use it quite a lot.
Too late for this now, but when I insulated the roof of my old garage (why should I be cold while potting plants?) The main glue was a thick gunge simmilar to the one you used, but at the same time I had found what are basically Gaffa-tape double sided strips. So I used both and the strips held everything in place until the glue took hold.
Though I must admit I hardly ever worked in that garage after I insulated it, it was too warm to work in.
Haha, that's hilarious. Good idea too.
That made me lol
I’m very happy to see you use dewalt power tools. I personally believe in them. I am a little surprised you purchased a cabled saw. I only say that because I know of your limits on mains power. Here in the states we have a version of that saw battery powered. But I suppose that the cost is a factor for you as the battery powered one costs more.
All my DeWalt tools are cordless
Great work, David! Our favorite part was using the brolly for holding the side insulation in. See what we did there? We're brushing up on our British. ;-)
Hahahaha, very good. There will be a test at Customs entry.
If I was using the pen method to fit the panels I am sure I would find many novel, indeed unique, ways to end up in casualty. Mind you, if I was using the foam it would probably end up in various unsuitable orifices (orifii?). I wish I had the level of ability and confidence to cut wacking big holes in things; I don't think my loins could stand the amount of girding required to do that. Very enjoyable watching others successfully doing it though. Best wishes.
You're going to enjoy the one where I fit the windows then :-) Cheers
At what point did you start to feel the warmth difference with that insulation going in, being glued in, etc?
The circular saw is affectionarely called a "chop saw". Good work intreped travler!
I call it Bob
Chop Bob? :D
@Vandemonium Haha you and my husband would get along well - he calls everything Eric (after the Monty Python "Eric the Half-a-Bee" song)!
Actually, a chop saw is for metal work, runs slower and has n abrasive blade. Chop Saw is the misnomer.
It’s coming along very nicely David. Any thoughts on cake decoration for the next vlog series? It’s a big icing gun after all.
Maybe I'll apply for Bake Off ;-)
Very brave attacking the roof for the fan.
Haha I thought so too!
" I converted a mini .. with my dads old toffee hammer".. 🤣🤣🤣 plus six fingers!
I was wondering how you would manage cutting into the van metal - a professional job and also painting the raw edges. The music accompanying the ceiling tiles - reminds me of Jango Reinhardt. Is it?
Not that I'm aware of, it would have been a track from the TH-cam music library
had you considered treating the cavities with wax oil prior to insulating, i am retro insulating my sprinter after major roof vent leaks !! and im musing over pro and cons of extra level of rust protection....any thoughts ??
I confess I hadn't given it any thought. I don't really have any knowledge about waxoil to have a sensible opinion on it, unfortunately.
Hi there Mr Vandecuirse! Would you recommend the adhesive you used? We’re insulating our van & you method looks like a good way to do it? Thanks for the videos btw. All the best Joe.
It's good stuff but do get the "gun" version and the gun to go with it rather than tubes with a built-in nozzle as the latter only have one speed - on or off (!) where the gun gives you much more precise control of how much gunge comes out. And buy a tin of the glue cleaner too, to clean the gun after use.
you do know may thin layers keep you warm.yes.. and SMALL GAPES make for sound proofing and less contact means less heat loss .. pockets of air are good ..ask mum..lol
Thanks for another informative vlog, David :-) aren‘t these „poles“ looking a bit like shower curtain rods? 🚿 maybe they can double up to hold kind of a curtain to visually separate the driving cabin from the rest once you park up for the night :)
They're very similar although they're not marked as such on the packaging. I think I'll use them as clothes drying lines in the narrowboat :-)
I know this was ages ago and I'm catching up on videos, but if you ever find yourself redoing the vent, you kinda misused one of the products. That tape sealant is called butyl tape and its mostly just rubber. It's great stuff but it is designed to be installed with a bit of pressure so it can squish around and and bond to itself under that pressure. So all those bits you laid down become one big bit of gooey rubber.
In the future, when you have to redo the seal, which is pretty common on RV vents no matter how perfectly its installed, I would recommend putting down the butyl tape as you did. Then screwing down the inside trim giving the butyl a good squeeze in the process. This squeeze is the important part. Wait a few hours or overnight, tighten it a bit more. At that point you can clean the squeeze out up with a scraper and a bit of mineral spirits. Then put on the liquid sealant from the tube around the edge.
Madds over on the "Sail Life" youtube channel has a few videos about using butyl tape to install his windows.
No, I pretty much did that but added the gel sealant on as well for good measure round the outer rim of the vent. The main part of the the vent rim pressed onto the butyl, the outer rim went onto sealant and butyl.
You appear to be building quite the collection of Dewalt tools. Just wondering how you plan to wire the fan, I don't recall you mentioning running the wire for that in your previous vlogs.
I haven't mentioned any wiring thus far. It is all in hand though :-)
Well that went very well and the insulation is well sealed, great idea with the Poles - I used double sided tape but sometimes you do need more pressure. Only one suggestion - should have used Sikaflex ( or Fixall) for the final sealant - I hope the Sealant you did use was not Silicone as it is definitely not recommended for Van Roofs - it sets and cracks and will leak. Looking forward to the next one :)
It's not a silicone sealant, it's a co-polymer. Cheers.
what are Sikaflex and Fixall?
Sealants.
Good - should be flexible then. as well as waterproof.
My perfectionism would have been going crazy putting the fan vent in. I guess I'll find out eventually if it leaks.
if you'd added a few strawberries at 2:07 you could've been on the next series of Bake-Off
I hope there's some more substantial woodwork to come - having a dirty great mitre saw to chop a bit of batten did rather amuse me
keep up the good work :)
Shhhh ... don't ruin my excuse for buying a super new saw!!
Theres that great rockin country muisc again love that. What is the name of it?
I have no idea, unfortunately, it's something from the TH-cam music library