Probably my favourite episode of the season. Doctor Who fulfilling one of its original mission statements: to be educational by teaching real history using a fun sci-fi adventure format. Wonderful stuff.
As a person of color this episode really made me emotionnal. I cried in the end. I have to say.. The Jodie Whittaker era is the best for the historical episodes. I think every historical episodes of this era is really well made for creating the setting of what they want to cover.
@mimiquoi7380 - As a person not of color this episode also really made me emotional. I find it more painful to watch as time goes by, and it becomes more and more that the U.S. has not made the progress I thought we had towards leaving this racism and bigotry behind.
This is truly one of the real gems from series 11. Very well acted from all of the crew and such an important story to be told. About how an ordinary human being, by doing the right thing, can change history. Especially in these times, it feels nice to think about that. That probably there are a few Rosa Parks of our days, working to change the World for the better right now. Doctor Who at its peak. Thanks for a great channel and fantastic reaction.
@Tejiknasten this series on the whole is pretty terrible.... I would say I like the beginning of the first story and, my all time best bit of this season and probably jodies run, is probably when the tardis first appears at the end of the ghost monument.... that's it I'm afraid.... the rest is just terrible for me...
@@space1999 Well, then we have somewhat different opinions. I agree this series has some rough episodes, but for me, the historical stories of the season, together with the Christmas special, are the highlights.
When the idea for Doctor Who was originally pitched to the BBC in the 1960s was that they would visit historical effects and therefore it would be educational. This is one of those type of episodes, in my opinion.
It's a pity they still felt the need to include a "science fiction" element. _Doctor Who_ can do something that no other show can do: show us a different world, different culture, different era, tell a story in that world and make us care about the people and the issues. It can do that-and do it better in some cases-without introducing alien factors. It's just been a very long time since they did that.
One of the original aims of Doctor who right back to 1963 was to teach history, that was the whole point of giving him a time machine. Everyone has gaps in knowledge and you shouldn't feel ashamed that you don't know everything. The important thing is being willing to learn.
This is one of the best episodes of series 11. The antagonist could've been written better, but I don't think it matters much, cause the history that this episode portrays is very surreal, accurate and heartbreaking. So well acted. Love the reaction and channel.
Like so many Doctor Who episodes, the baddie is not central to the story. He was merely the instigator for the real story, which is keeping Rosa's story intact.
@@sallyatticum I felt the interloper was a cartoonish racist, which was a poor fit for a story that otherwise does such a phenomenal job of conveying the real horror of that society's openly racist environment with its ever-present threat of violence. Presumably the writers felt he was necessary as a means to pull the Doctor and her companions into the actual events, but I just wish they'd found a different way to do that, or at least had characterised him in some other way.
Segregation isn't taught in history like it should. Even in the USA this history isn't known like it should be. Well done Doctor Who for helping fill this essential void. I think your reaction was like all of us.
34:00 - This is a tricky line for the episode to tread, and I think it comes up with a sensitive and impactful solution. The implications of having the Doctor incite some kind of race relations movement might be fine if its Silurians vs Humans, but to insert her into actual IRL black history and help inspire Rosa, MLK etc is problematic. Everyone involved in that movement did it themselves, and they deserve credit for that, without some fictional characters intervening with a pat on the back. And for our TARDIS crew, forcing them into being part of the history - but not a part they in any way want to play - is far more interesting IMO. Seeing the moral conundrums the Doctor has to deal with. Time travel isn't all fun. Even Earth can look like an alien and sometimes ugly world. I'm glad this episode deals with that.
@@IDidntSetAHandle nowhere in this episode did the Doctor inspire Rosa or MLK. They were activists before she turned up. The doctor just did her own job, which was stopping the time traveller from preventing their plans. Her actions didn't cause Rosa to sit down.
I quite like this episode because like Vincent and the Doctor, it shows that Doctor Who can do more than just alien invasions. Doctor Who rarely shows us true historical stories and when it tries to do it, the writing often gets sidetracked by the sci-fi elements (e.g. The Shakespeare Code barely explains who Shakespeare was because it focuses on witches). This episode properly shows us what Rosa Parks meant to history and how her actions still affect us today. Series 11 in general puts the stereotypical Doctor Who alien invasion stories to rest for more character driven and emotional stories. I for one prefer series 1-10 because I don’t connect to the character driven stories from this series as well as the stories about alien invasions from previous series but I can definitely see why some people consider this the best series of the show. It definitely gives vibes of a high production drama whereas previous series were low budget sci-fi.
When Dr. Who first began in 1963 it was intended to be an educational program set in the past or future creator Sydney Newman didn't want any bug-eyed monsters but with the arrival of the Daleks first showed up the show became a massive hit and the educational part was dropped and became the show we know and love today without the Daleks the show would had ended in 1963. Showrunner Chris Chibnall honoured that educational part and wanted to go almost completely historical like the William Hartnell era.
Heartened by your reactions to the prejudice displayed in this episode, though not so heartened that you didn't know the name of Rosa Parks. But then I'm American, and I'm old enough that we'd still learn about our history in school. What makes this episode work so well for me is that the act that was the catalyst for social change was such a simple thing, and that what the fam had to do to preserve history was such a simple act. The pain on their faces at having to sit there, at having to put themselves in that position, so well done.
Hi Nicole! Happy Doctor Who day! 🥳 23/11🎉 I wasn't taught who Rosa Parks was either. Late 90's UK secondary education but TBF it isn't UK (or German) history. "We don't serve black people." "That's alright- we don't eat them."😂 I wish that villain had a better... or an explanation. It makes it sound like Racism isn't a taught behavior. Ironically, I'd like a plot where villain were doing this FOR black rights long term. Call the Doctor a hypocrite for them changing history. Episode written by Malorie Blackman, Children's Laureate from 2013 to 2015. Author of Noughts & Crosses.
That's a bit of sharing that I don't think this Doctor would do. (Or any previous Doctor would do, not in front of an enemy that they had no respect for.) It was in a one-on-one conversation with Krasko, wasn't it? The only reason the Doctor might have considered it would be to bait him-as when she said she didn't like his name-and trigger any homophobia he might have. It would just be far too personal for her in that situation.
The space racist was like the giant invisible space chicken from the Vincent episode. Not the focus of the episode and the least interesting. Taking Rosa to the future would change history which they were attempting to avoid in the episode.
Always have such mixed feelings about this episode. It looks great, the acting is pretty good. The setup up a racist time traveler boldly thinking he can change history but being unable to kill. The Doctor acknowledging the importance of this moment on human history and deciding it had to stand. The companions being put in a dangerous situation and refusing to back down. All pretty decent setups but at the end of the day, the episode failed in one crucial way. The racist time traveler treated this moment as a big of coincidence, like Rosa ended up on the bus randomly and decided to protest out of nowhere. In reality, she was a very well known civil rights activist and had chosen to protest the segregation on the bus earlier. If he had succeeded in stopping her that day, she could/would have done it on another day. All 13 did was keep the date the *same*. 13 does always feel like she has trouble with making waves, she prefers keeping things simple and happy and easy to understand. I always believed that the episode should have had the racist guy delay her bus protest, only for her to do it the very next day. 13 could have jumped into the future 1 single day and shown the companions that they hadn't fully failed. They could have also revealed that the second day was always the original date that we know about in the future. For these reasons, as a historical episode, I have to give it a low score. Not a bad episode, but one that disappointed me personally as black american. I hope we get more historical episodes though! 4/10......it was a 5 but that ending song took me completely out of the episode and makes the ending hard to rewatch.
That's a really interesting comment. I believe the writer was aware that Mrs Parks deliberately took a stand, in contrast with how the history of what happened used to be explained. However, I seem to remember feeling when I first watched the episode that it wasn't clear on the point and could be interpreted either way, which is unfortunate. The notional antagonist is the weakest aspect of the episode for me. I quite like your proposed way of making him lose, and it perhaps gives Mrs Parks a more obvious direct agency in that. I have to agree with you about the song at the end. I don't think it's an unfitting choice, but it's too intrusive. I had a somewhat similar issue with the song used near the end of "Vincent and the Doctor". For whatever it's worth, I'm British, and White, and I found the episode a very tough one to get through. I actually had to split my viewing over more than one day as the sheer visceral threat in the early part of the episode was portrayed so effectively. So despite my criticism of how the interloping time traveller was characterised, and the clunky nature of the ending, I still rate the episode very highly: 4.5 out of 5. I could never call it a "favourite" episode, because when it works well it packs a really unpleasant punch; but despite its flaws, one of the show's best episodes (in my opinion).
@@andrewgwilliam4831 interestingly, the music in Vincent and the doctor was a real highlight for me. i found it jarring at first but on rewatches i really found it elevated the excellent scene. i think the music choice here with rosa might be made worse for me by the volume and the use of dramatic slo mo shots making the scene feel like a superbowl add for coca cola. As for the writer, i believe fully that a lot of research was put into the episode and that they really understood the story. i feel like its an issue with pacing mostly, they probably cut out a lot of the scene with ryan at the house with rosa and dr king. that felt like it could have been a real powerful moment and then we just get a jump cut away. that would have allowed them to explain to the audience that she had a history of protests and was clearly planning more. we get hints and nods but too much is not said out loud to the audience and while people are smart, i do feel like you need to spell things out sometimes.
just letting u know this is probably he part where your going to start having these copyright issues more and more so if u have to u may have to turn these into review style only , or no video on screen style. some reactor have been able to without this issue while others seem to have been unfairly targeted even though they follow the rules, so i just want to let u know in case this issue starts happening more for u .
This episode had some really mixed reviews especially in the US because of complaints about the show being "too political" or "too woke" or "too in your face" or "too left wing" and crap like that but one thing this show is never afraid of is getting "political" Dr. Who was always political and despite me preferring science fiction episodes i did think this was a great episode of the Jodie Whittaker era i will say however i wasn't a big fan of the music at the end of the credits. Krasko the racist villain from the future is from the same prison "Stormcage" as River Song. I'm actually really surprised and shocked you don't know who Rosa Parks is? I thought they would had taught you youngins abit of that part of history. Yaz is actually indian decent not black.
I'm not shocked that a non-American might not know Rosa Park's name. There would be loads of similarly impactful figures in German history that I don't know, and that's in a country whose mid-20th-century history is very broadly known. For any other non-English-speaking country I would know almost no such figures.
Dr who hadn't been "always political " and in fact many people cite the 3rd dr era as a great example of politics in the show... however it was subtle and varied and well written...its worth noting that if u look on TH-cam there is a short clip of any interview taken from a dr who dvd with terrance dicks who was showrunner in this era and is the nearest thing in dr who to a george lucas character, ie he was involved for decades and also wrote most of the show to book adaptions... in it, he warns of the dangers of mixing politics with the show... he warns of declining viewing etc.... and look what happened during jodies time.....
This story was a very big risk to wtite i think. Its very well meaning and not bad. However, anyone who understands the story of what actually happened will realise this misteaches the history and simplifies everything too much in order to make a broad observation. So as an episode its quite good, but as a historical it is missing who Rosa was imo. I think Americans find this story much more problenatic tgan the British, mainly because most Brits know nothing about Rosa and take what they see on screen at face value.
The episode length thing is a symptom of Chibnall's inability to see things that are wrong with his own work, he struggles to edit things down and keep a pace up because he has so many ideas, and he can't bear to let any of them go.
Honestly, that doesn't really have anything to do with the episode length or the pacing. One of the big complaints about the Capaldi era was that the episodes were too short and that the first act always felt rushed - the BBC changed the format specifically to address it by extending episode lengths and front-loading the episode (the extra run-time is added at the start, not the end). Unfortunately, that made the second and third acts feel rushed - something the BBC said they intended to rebalance in the next season.
@@CameronMcCracken_Art 1. You didn't have to be so rude with the tone of your reply 2. In standard English having dark skin and being black don't necessarily mean the same thing. For instance many individuals with albinism will still identify as their respective ethnicity.
@@benjaminwilson2945 In _British_ English she would be Asian. That's not true of all varieties of English. (And this points out the follow of correcting somebody's terminology as though your own terminology is the only permissible one.)
You don't know who Rosa Parks is? I don't care if you don't know who some celebrity is or a singer or an artist or something like that, but you really should know who Rosa Parks is. That's not really ok.
This is one of the reasons this episode was right to focus on someone like Rosa and not MLK. I appreciate Doctor Who when it causes people to look things up.
Such an overrated episode, poorly written with a poor baddie, terrible music and virtually drama free..... the story of rosa would have been served better as a stand alone historical drama...
Don't be throwing shade on Rise Up! It's there because of its associations with BLM. I like the baddie in this. He's pathetic, but that's the point. Racist attitudes have real world consequences, but they are just perpetuated by arrogant, idiotic, random losers like this guy. The episode concept is that you don't need to have big 'end of the world' style power, you just need to push things enough throw society out of balance. Tiny actions.
@@ihateunicorns867 they're probably hating on it because at the time it was a modern song and all modern songs are apparently bad for some reason. Like, what's even the difference between this song and other songs that have popped up
@space1999 Wouldn't had worked now if it went full historical because it's now expected to have an alien or someone from the future present which is why they dropped the pure historicals in 1967 because they just weren't as popular to the general public.
Probably my favourite episode of the season. Doctor Who fulfilling one of its original mission statements: to be educational by teaching real history using a fun sci-fi adventure format. Wonderful stuff.
As a person of color this episode really made me emotionnal.
I cried in the end.
I have to say.. The Jodie Whittaker era is the best for the historical episodes. I think every historical episodes of this era is really well made for creating the setting of what they want to cover.
@mimiquoi7380 - As a person not of color this episode also really made me emotional.
I find it more painful to watch as time goes by, and it becomes more and more that the U.S. has not made the progress I thought we had towards leaving this racism and bigotry behind.
@kevincachia1977 I know... 😔
This is truly one of the real gems from series 11. Very well acted from all of the crew and such an important story to be told. About how an ordinary human being, by doing the right thing, can change history. Especially in these times, it feels nice to think about that. That probably there are a few Rosa Parks of our days, working to change the World for the better right now. Doctor Who at its peak. Thanks for a great channel and fantastic reaction.
I couldn't disagree more... one of the poorest dr who episodes from new who for me.
@space1999 Well, the opinion is free. Wich episodes of this series are your gems, then?
@Tejiknasten this series on the whole is pretty terrible.... I would say I like the beginning of the first story and, my all time best bit of this season and probably jodies run, is probably when the tardis first appears at the end of the ghost monument.... that's it I'm afraid.... the rest is just terrible for me...
@@space1999 Well, then we have somewhat different opinions. I agree this series has some rough episodes, but for me, the historical stories of the season, together with the Christmas special, are the highlights.
@@Tejiknasten fair enough, each to their own
When the idea for Doctor Who was originally pitched to the BBC in the 1960s was that they would visit historical effects and therefore it would be educational. This is one of those type of episodes, in my opinion.
It's a pity they still felt the need to include a "science fiction" element. _Doctor Who_ can do something that no other show can do: show us a different world, different culture, different era, tell a story in that world and make us care about the people and the issues. It can do that-and do it better in some cases-without introducing alien factors. It's just been a very long time since they did that.
this is my favorite episode from this doctor
its just so perfect
One of the original aims of Doctor who right back to 1963 was to teach history, that was the whole point of giving him a time machine. Everyone has gaps in knowledge and you shouldn't feel ashamed that you don't know everything. The important thing is being willing to learn.
Makes emotional everytime, nice editing
This is one of the best episodes of series 11. The antagonist could've been written better, but I don't think it matters much, cause the history that this episode portrays is very surreal, accurate and heartbreaking. So well acted. Love the reaction and channel.
Like so many Doctor Who episodes, the baddie is not central to the story. He was merely the instigator for the real story, which is keeping Rosa's story intact.
@@sallyatticum I felt the interloper was a cartoonish racist, which was a poor fit for a story that otherwise does such a phenomenal job of conveying the real horror of that society's openly racist environment with its ever-present threat of violence. Presumably the writers felt he was necessary as a means to pull the Doctor and her companions into the actual events, but I just wish they'd found a different way to do that, or at least had characterised him in some other way.
25:09 and i hate when people judge others for thinking their weird just because of a secret
Segregation isn't taught in history like it should. Even in the USA this history isn't known like it should be. Well done Doctor Who for helping fill this essential void. I think your reaction was like all of us.
Not only isn't it taught correctly, there's an entire political wing trying to stop it being taught at all.
34:00 - This is a tricky line for the episode to tread, and I think it comes up with a sensitive and impactful solution.
The implications of having the Doctor incite some kind of race relations movement might be fine if its Silurians vs Humans, but to insert her into actual IRL black history and help inspire Rosa, MLK etc is problematic. Everyone involved in that movement did it themselves, and they deserve credit for that, without some fictional characters intervening with a pat on the back.
And for our TARDIS crew, forcing them into being part of the history - but not a part they in any way want to play - is far more interesting IMO. Seeing the moral conundrums the Doctor has to deal with.
Time travel isn't all fun. Even Earth can look like an alien and sometimes ugly world. I'm glad this episode deals with that.
@@IDidntSetAHandle nowhere in this episode did the Doctor inspire Rosa or MLK. They were activists before she turned up. The doctor just did her own job, which was stopping the time traveller from preventing their plans. Her actions didn't cause Rosa to sit down.
@mrdr0161 We are in agreement.
I quite like this episode because like Vincent and the Doctor, it shows that Doctor Who can do more than just alien invasions. Doctor Who rarely shows us true historical stories and when it tries to do it, the writing often gets sidetracked by the sci-fi elements (e.g. The Shakespeare Code barely explains who Shakespeare was because it focuses on witches). This episode properly shows us what Rosa Parks meant to history and how her actions still affect us today.
Series 11 in general puts the stereotypical Doctor Who alien invasion stories to rest for more character driven and emotional stories. I for one prefer series 1-10 because I don’t connect to the character driven stories from this series as well as the stories about alien invasions from previous series but I can definitely see why some people consider this the best series of the show. It definitely gives vibes of a high production drama whereas previous series were low budget sci-fi.
When Dr. Who first began in 1963 it was intended to be an educational program set in the past or future creator Sydney Newman didn't want any bug-eyed monsters but with the arrival of the Daleks first showed up the show became a massive hit and the educational part was dropped and became the show we know and love today without the Daleks the show would had ended in 1963.
Showrunner Chris Chibnall honoured that educational part and wanted to go almost completely historical like the William Hartnell era.
I love this episode and cried again watching it with you. 😢
Heartened by your reactions to the prejudice displayed in this episode, though not so heartened that you didn't know the name of Rosa Parks. But then I'm American, and I'm old enough that we'd still learn about our history in school.
What makes this episode work so well for me is that the act that was the catalyst for social change was such a simple thing, and that what the fam had to do to preserve history was such a simple act. The pain on their faces at having to sit there, at having to put themselves in that position, so well done.
Hi Nicole!
Happy Doctor Who day! 🥳 23/11🎉
I wasn't taught who Rosa Parks was either. Late 90's UK secondary education but TBF it isn't UK (or German) history.
"We don't serve black people."
"That's alright- we don't eat them."😂
I wish that villain had a better... or an explanation. It makes it sound like Racism isn't a taught behavior.
Ironically, I'd like a plot where villain were doing this FOR black rights long term. Call the Doctor a hypocrite for them changing history.
Episode written by Malorie Blackman, Children's Laureate from 2013 to 2015. Author of Noughts & Crosses.
❤ this episode and Jodie 😊
Minir disappointment that when Stormcage was mentioned the Doctor didn't say "My wife spent some time there" or something like that.
That's a bit of sharing that I don't think this Doctor would do. (Or any previous Doctor would do, not in front of an enemy that they had no respect for.)
It was in a one-on-one conversation with Krasko, wasn't it? The only reason the Doctor might have considered it would be to bait him-as when she said she didn't like his name-and trigger any homophobia he might have. It would just be far too personal for her in that situation.
Yes, you should know who Rosa Parks is. But that's what the episode is for.
Fantastic episode
The space racist was like the giant invisible space chicken from the Vincent episode. Not the focus of the episode and the least interesting. Taking Rosa to the future would change history which they were attempting to avoid in the episode.
Always have such mixed feelings about this episode. It looks great, the acting is pretty good. The setup up a racist time traveler boldly thinking he can change history but being unable to kill. The Doctor acknowledging the importance of this moment on human history and deciding it had to stand. The companions being put in a dangerous situation and refusing to back down. All pretty decent setups but at the end of the day, the episode failed in one crucial way. The racist time traveler treated this moment as a big of coincidence, like Rosa ended up on the bus randomly and decided to protest out of nowhere. In reality, she was a very well known civil rights activist and had chosen to protest the segregation on the bus earlier. If he had succeeded in stopping her that day, she could/would have done it on another day. All 13 did was keep the date the *same*. 13 does always feel like she has trouble with making waves, she prefers keeping things simple and happy and easy to understand. I always believed that the episode should have had the racist guy delay her bus protest, only for her to do it the very next day. 13 could have jumped into the future 1 single day and shown the companions that they hadn't fully failed. They could have also revealed that the second day was always the original date that we know about in the future. For these reasons, as a historical episode, I have to give it a low score. Not a bad episode, but one that disappointed me personally as black american. I hope we get more historical episodes though! 4/10......it was a 5 but that ending song took me completely out of the episode and makes the ending hard to rewatch.
That's a really interesting comment. I believe the writer was aware that Mrs Parks deliberately took a stand, in contrast with how the history of what happened used to be explained. However, I seem to remember feeling when I first watched the episode that it wasn't clear on the point and could be interpreted either way, which is unfortunate.
The notional antagonist is the weakest aspect of the episode for me. I quite like your proposed way of making him lose, and it perhaps gives Mrs Parks a more obvious direct agency in that.
I have to agree with you about the song at the end. I don't think it's an unfitting choice, but it's too intrusive. I had a somewhat similar issue with the song used near the end of "Vincent and the Doctor".
For whatever it's worth, I'm British, and White, and I found the episode a very tough one to get through. I actually had to split my viewing over more than one day as the sheer visceral threat in the early part of the episode was portrayed so effectively. So despite my criticism of how the interloping time traveller was characterised, and the clunky nature of the ending, I still rate the episode very highly: 4.5 out of 5. I could never call it a "favourite" episode, because when it works well it packs a really unpleasant punch; but despite its flaws, one of the show's best episodes (in my opinion).
@@andrewgwilliam4831 interestingly, the music in Vincent and the doctor was a real highlight for me. i found it jarring at first but on rewatches i really found it elevated the excellent scene. i think the music choice here with rosa might be made worse for me by the volume and the use of dramatic slo mo shots making the scene feel like a superbowl add for coca cola.
As for the writer, i believe fully that a lot of research was put into the episode and that they really understood the story. i feel like its an issue with pacing mostly, they probably cut out a lot of the scene with ryan at the house with rosa and dr king. that felt like it could have been a real powerful moment and then we just get a jump cut away. that would have allowed them to explain to the audience that she had a history of protests and was clearly planning more. we get hints and nods but too much is not said out loud to the audience and while people are smart, i do feel like you need to spell things out sometimes.
Brilliant! 😍
just letting u know this is probably he part where your going to start having these copyright issues more and more so if u have to u may have to turn these into review style only , or no video on screen style. some reactor have been able to without this issue while others seem to have been unfairly targeted even though they follow the rules, so i just want to let u know in case this issue starts happening more for u .
This episode had some really mixed reviews especially in the US because of complaints about the show being "too political" or "too woke" or "too in your face" or "too left wing" and crap like that but one thing this show is never afraid of is getting "political" Dr. Who was always political and despite me preferring science fiction episodes i did think this was a great episode of the Jodie Whittaker era i will say however i wasn't a big fan of the music at the end of the credits.
Krasko the racist villain from the future is from the same prison "Stormcage" as River Song.
I'm actually really surprised and shocked you don't know who Rosa Parks is? I thought they would had taught you youngins abit of that part of history.
Yaz is actually indian decent not black.
I'm not shocked that a non-American might not know Rosa Park's name. There would be loads of similarly impactful figures in German history that I don't know, and that's in a country whose mid-20th-century history is very broadly known. For any other non-English-speaking country I would know almost no such figures.
Dr who hadn't been "always political " and in fact many people cite the 3rd dr era as a great example of politics in the show... however it was subtle and varied and well written...its worth noting that if u look on TH-cam there is a short clip of any interview taken from a dr who dvd with terrance dicks who was showrunner in this era and is the nearest thing in dr who to a george lucas character, ie he was involved for decades and also wrote most of the show to book adaptions... in it, he warns of the dangers of mixing politics with the show... he warns of declining viewing etc.... and look what happened during jodies time.....
This story was a very big risk to wtite i think. Its very well meaning and not bad. However, anyone who understands the story of what actually happened will realise this misteaches the history and simplifies everything too much in order to make a broad observation. So as an episode its quite good, but as a historical it is missing who Rosa was imo. I think Americans find this story much more problenatic tgan the British, mainly because most Brits know nothing about Rosa and take what they see on screen at face value.
The episode length thing is a symptom of Chibnall's inability to see things that are wrong with his own work, he struggles to edit things down and keep a pace up because he has so many ideas, and he can't bear to let any of them go.
Honestly, that doesn't really have anything to do with the episode length or the pacing. One of the big complaints about the Capaldi era was that the episodes were too short and that the first act always felt rushed - the BBC changed the format specifically to address it by extending episode lengths and front-loading the episode (the extra run-time is added at the start, not the end).
Unfortunately, that made the second and third acts feel rushed - something the BBC said they intended to rebalance in the next season.
its a better episode of series 11 fior sure but is it still doctor who??
As much as The Massacre of St Bartholomews Eve is, yes.
Or "Marco Polo" or "The Reign of Terror" or "The Romans" or "The Crusade".
8:53 Hey. Just for your information in English she would be referred to as South Asian rather than black.
pakistani iirc
… people can be both black and Asian. Ffs 🤦
Edit: like I’m sorry, but how are you seriously gonna look at Mandip Gill and say she’s not black?! wtaf
I was wrong, I checked. Indian punjabi descent.
would still be called 'colored' in the 50s south though
@@CameronMcCracken_Art
1. You didn't have to be so rude with the tone of your reply
2. In standard English having dark skin and being black don't necessarily mean the same thing.
For instance many individuals with albinism will still identify as their respective ethnicity.
@@benjaminwilson2945
In _British_ English she would be Asian. That's not true of all varieties of English. (And this points out the follow of correcting somebody's terminology as though your own terminology is the only permissible one.)
You don't know who Rosa Parks is? I don't care if you don't know who some celebrity is or a singer or an artist or something like that, but you really should know who Rosa Parks is. That's not really ok.
The Rosa Parks story is incorporated into British and American history curriculums. This might not be the case in Germany.
@@anniesharp4871 Yeah. I've got to the end of the video now and I'm realising that. Sorry.
This is one of the reasons this episode was right to focus on someone like Rosa and not MLK.
I appreciate Doctor Who when it causes people to look things up.
@@IDidntSetAHandle I looked up several people and incidents during the Chibnall era. I really appreciated the 13th Doctor's historicals.
Such an overrated episode, poorly written with a poor baddie, terrible music and virtually drama free..... the story of rosa would have been served better as a stand alone historical drama...
Don't be throwing shade on Rise Up! It's there because of its associations with BLM.
I like the baddie in this. He's pathetic, but that's the point. Racist attitudes have real world consequences, but they are just perpetuated by arrogant, idiotic, random losers like this guy. The episode concept is that you don't need to have big 'end of the world' style power, you just need to push things enough throw society out of balance. Tiny actions.
@@ihateunicorns867 they're probably hating on it because at the time it was a modern song and all modern songs are apparently bad for some reason.
Like, what's even the difference between this song and other songs that have popped up
@ihateunicorns867 I disagree entirely but each to their own
@space1999 Wouldn't had worked now if it went full historical because it's now expected to have an alien or someone from the future present which is why they dropped the pure historicals in 1967 because they just weren't as popular to the general public.
@joshuajoshua2732 no I mean a historical drama separate to dr who....