@@theomnigamer9177 I haven't watched that in a long time. If I remember correctly didn't it look like supers art style? If I'm wrong then I can go look at it and give you a real answer.
Also I love Goku's smaller pupils in the OG Dragon Ball and Early DBZ, it looked more fierce and serious. Now Android/Cell saga onwards, his pupils look big making him look like a kid.
For me personally, the Buu saga artstyle and the Broly style are the best, followed by the Yuya Takahashi Tournament of Power artstyle. The 2D Superhero artstyle was also really great, I didn't care much for the 3D art but it wasn't overly terrible. I enjoy the Frieza saga artstyle as well.
2D art was done entirely by Chikashi Kubota as he said he didn't want the entire movie to be CG. He decided to perfectly emulate the style that each era the anime has, and did it better than anyone else before hand
The Buu saga art is great, it's true. The only problem I see there is that they sometimes abused on the muscles. But the real problem is not dedicated to the art style but to the Toei. I know Goku was not an idiot-looking back then, but they made him too serious. It added to his portrayal as a hero whereas he's not a hero.
Db something unique like gears of war does: In Gears of war Universe the people are more bigger than the people here and in Dragon everyone has normally big Ears ! Tada!!!!
I was surprised and happy when i saw the daima trailer as it had good looking art style so that kinda confirmed for me that whenever the moro and granolah arcs are finally animated they may have a similar or even better art style
unrelated, but i just love your commentary so much, you're able to word yourself in a way so succinctly and yet so eloquently that you perfectly keep my interest engaged throughout every video of yours I watch and it's refreshing to hear well written and well spoken commentary. Keep up the videos!
Nah, who let bro cook😂 I get that this is subjective, but holy cow man. To start off nicely, DB’s art style is generally agreeable. It’s not exactly peak, but it’s cute and it evolves just enough to capture the tension of the piccolo fights. Saiyan Saga’s art is so easy on the eyes that it’s hard to really hate. Even the “rough around the edges” aspects tie nicely into the visual language of Vegeta (for instance) in relation to his more refined proportions by the end of Z. That twitter meme saying “Vegeta’s chin got the most development” is 100% accurate in the best way possible. He LOOKS like an arrogant prince with a lot to learn, something that modern Yamamuro’s art can’t quite capture. In short, its unrefined look is its greatest strength and should be an easy A tier. Namek looks good when Ebisawa isn’t animating😂, this arc can look fugly at times! Though Frieza’s softer eyebrows in his final form look great and I’m disappointed that it took Shintani to bring them back in the Broly movie. The Android/Cell Saga develops a LOT of differences from the Namek Saga as it gets closer to the Cell games. Around the time that Cell arrives and transforms is where Tadayoshi Yamamoro comes in and gives us his signature strong proportions with Kamiccalo, Super Vegeta, and SSJ2 Gohan to name a few. I do believe that researching exactly who drew these arcs does highlight quite a lot of differences and gives more depth to the opinions presented. Buu’s art is peak Z, agreeably, but it’s not without its jarringly ugly spots. There’s one instance that comes to mind where Goku and Majin Vegeta “agree” to refocus on Buu and it’s drawn twice by two different teams as a cliffhanger and a post credits opener. Seeing the B team’s version in comparison to the cliffhanger is wack AF, And once you notice it, you see that the B team have been around since the Android Saga at least and most of Z looks way worse in my mind for it😂. There is no universe in which GT’s art is worse than Super’s. I’m sorry but I’d prefer David Yate’s GT with its occasionally mucky color palette than having my retinas burned by Super’s art style. Even the TOP’s bright colors look BLOWN OUT, just look at SSBE Vegeta and MUI Goku’s auras when they transform. They look dangerously bright on the eyes! Shintani’s Broly art is peak DBS, but there are times where the composition between characters and the backgrounds don’t quite jive well together. These are few and far between, but one notable example is the POV sequence when Broly is zoning in on Goku, firing ki blasts at him, and punching him through mountains. The hands firing the ki blasts in that sequence look like Gumball putting his “how to basic-esque” sandwich together with the flat motion and lack of foreshortening. Still a great fight and art style, but a bit too experimental and hit or miss with some scenes. DBS Super Hero is certainly the best that CG Dragon ball has looked, but dear God do the scenes with Goku and Vegeta on Beerus’s planet look unfinished! Still strange how the prettiest scene in the film is the 2d drawn series recap at the beginning😂. We simply do not know enough about Daima to give it a verdict, but this is probably the most faithful art style in adapting modern Toriyama’s illustrations. The bubbly proportions are explicitly meant to transcribe his modern chibi look and it looks great so far! Overall, I guess my main issue with this tier list is that, without extensive research on who drew the series at what point and what went wrong or right, a lot of the rankings seem more aggravating. No crucifixion was intended with this comment, and I do understand not turning this video into a thirty minute rehash of what Totally Not Mark, Anime Ajay, etc. have educated us on.
Saying the cell saga is similar to the frieza saga but making separate tiers for saiyan and frieza, which are absolutely identical is dead crazy to me.
This is cool. I love the Buu Arc style best. GT is too clean. The Dragon Ball Movie 4 The Path To Power is the perfect combination style of the Buu Arc & GT. Honestly I would love to reschedule the entire Dragon Ball saga in that specific part style..
@@KeyReviewsOfficial looking back it was more on model than off & kinda followed the style Toriyama was taking at that time. It felt like a continuation of the Buu arc style. Also with the colors such as Goku’s tan came from how Toriyama would draw him & the character designs were by Toriyama so compared to supers early stuff I’d put this way above that
Not gonna lie I kinda vibe with this list. I think simplicity and colors work with the dynamic fighting better than a shiny stiff one. It just let the animators make the fights smoother. For GT......its like they turned up the shiny highlights and turned down the contrast. GT's designs are sick (other than the Frieza and Cell ones) and just needed vibrant colors. Go back and look at Goku's gi on Namek in 1080p it's magnificent 👌
fr like how buu saga had the most majestic shots followed by some random yee yee ass namek saga ass artstyle. probs would be more accurate if based on movies, imo Fusion Reborn had the best artstyle
i think what really makes DBS broly's art style stick out the most is the simple shading/lighting and that hand drawn feel. it gives the characters the life they needed behind those dead, over-saturated eyes 😭 the problem with super was that 2015 kids youtube channel color palette, and the over used 3 tone shading. it just made a lot of characters look so oily in a lot of scenes idk. I really hope we get to see the broly art style again
My personal favorites are the 23rd tenkaichi and Shintani's art style. Both of these I absolutely love. Just to be clear Dragon Ball has always been hand drawn outside of Super Hero. Daima is also supposed to be more like current Akira Toriyama's art style as his style hasn't been consistent. You can often see how his style has changed with the Dragon Quest Series as he's the main artist for that series as well. I also saw a ton of Naotoshi Shida showcases which is nice because he's been on the series since early Dragon Ball, with his most famous scene from early dragon ball being one of the fights between Goku and Krillin in the 21st tenkaichi. Also the hand drawn sequences in Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero were all done exclusively by Chikashi Kubota. He did the opening and all of those 2D flash backs himself. Much of the 2D effects were handled by various artists at toei.
DBS broly's artstyle's lineart reminds me a lot to the gritty and bold lineart of masaki sato from the earlier parts of dbz and the later ones of db and i love it
While I do agree with the rest of the video, I gotta join the group saying “Early Super isn’t above GT.” Personal thing, I liked the GT artstyle. Though it does feel washed out and weird looking (especially the Shenron scene you showed), the backdrops for the Baby fight, the Dragon Fist against Eis, and Super 17’s fight look super nice. BoG’s Super arc just looks…so bad. The shading there is even more flat than GT’s, imo. Coming in as a recent DB fan, take that as you will.
anything that is not stiff or plastic looking is sorta acceptable. What I really think they still needed to improve in DBS was movement and sense of impact. Hope they improve that as well
My favorite and the best overall Dragon Ball art has to be episode 114 of Super with Yuya Takahashi as the animator. This guy's detailing is jaw dropping with 3 and sometimes 4 gradients of shading. A very strong callback to Z.
kinda dumb video. There's various AD's in the show, so there isn't a style. It changes in every episode. You could have Masunaga gorgeous artstyle and then the next episode the Uchiyama ugly style.
for me the Broly art style suit the franchise the most since it a perfect combining between manga and anime artstyle unlike early day super the artstyle feel blocky and weird more like i was watching a bunch of anime figure fighting in slow motion, glad they fix everything in the top arc
Here’s my list: Animation smoothness: dbs broly Art style: all except dbs show and gt Scenery: db path to power Colour palette: db path to power Choreography: dbs broly Character designs: dbz Reply with yours.
See, in ye olde cell animation, when a character stood completely still there would still be 2 or 3 different drawings of the same image. So even standing around doing nothing, it still looked like they were breathing or a slight breaze was going by. Shintani doesnt need to stretch anything out but his shot of goku in the trailer was just goku standing in the wind with his hair and gee fluttering lookef great. I think super looks like a lazy power point so much of the time.
I do like that Daima does look like a cleaner version of Shintani's models, especially because its directed by Nakatsuru (GT's character designer) so some things I didnt like in the DBS Broly movie seem to be fixed, like the overly grainy outlines, overly rounded features, and lack of a jawline on the characters at times. Like Goku. Only thing I don't really like is the return of the hair highlights on Goku. It just looks better when its solid black or only using a second shade for scenery lighting but Z never had that. I also kind of miss the more muted/darker colors in the DBS Broly movie a bit more. I think the Daima colors look a bit too bright, even for Z and reminds me more of BOG's color palette.
I'm sorry but even in the clips you showed, you can see the inconsistencies in DBS's animation both in the early stages and during the ToP arc. They only used really good animation in VERY short bursts during the climax/end of important fights and the action still seemed far from what we got in Z and GT most of the time. I still cant believe you put BOTH iterations of DBS over GT lmao I wish we could do a global poll of animation styles I'm curious if this is a widely held opinion.
@Scoundr3ll I made this video a bit ago, and my opinion has changed. I would definitely put GT over super from the start up until the tournament of power, but I perfer the tournament of power style more than GT. Growing up watching GT, I never really liked the style tbh
You really criticized gt Goku not having that chubby young look and that would be a fair criticism if Goku was an actual kid instead of an adult who was at his peak physical form with fully developed muscles I think giving GT Goku the chubby look like OG Dragonball wouldn’t make sense to me since he is at a completely different physical status then when he was a child
Cell Saga / Buu Saga ORIGINAL animation on average had pretty good quality animation. Super Sayins looked knida angelic in away how they did their eyes and almost white/beige/light gold color. Like SERIOUSLY! compare the overall SS 1 transformation from Super to Cell or Buu Saga SS, man. . . its sad to see Super suffered from animators being given such little time to work on the show
to be honest the og looked best to me cuz of the eyes dbs broly looks neat cuz of the shading and shape so if we mix those together we have the perfect style
It's a shame the worst arc had the best animation. I think by the Cell Games though it looks basically the same. Around the time Piccolo is fighting 17 there's a noticeable difference.
Am I the only one who notices the qualitative difference in the drawings at minute 5:10 or 5:28 with that of minutes 5:07 or 5:36? Pause if necessary. The definition of the muscles or the face changed from episode to episode. I remember that usually, in all of Dragon Ball Z, there was one episode that was very well drawn, one that was mediocre, and one that was drawn and animated very badly. Can anyone tell me why?
Bro what is this BS , Super is F tier its only some shoots in Super where it looked good but not even near as good as it was in the Buu saga and GT !! Wtffffffff 😂😂😂😂😂😂 they should just keept the buu saga style and maybe made it a mix with with the shoots from the fight between Goku and Jiren going full power.
Dragonball Super characters look rather look like they were made by Ichiro Ooda (creator of One Piece). Goku sometimes looks low key like luffy in Super
for me Supers artstyle is the worst, the battles seem like theres no struggle at all since the only thing that gets damage are clothes (i know the manga has it, and the anime censored it to make it more child friendly) the scratches and blood on Z, GT and even OG was way better
This video is pretty fair but in my opinion the dbs artsyle is my favourite...to be precise the dbs artsyle version of battle of gods and resurrection f films. They looked clean with with fluid motion, bright colours[I like bright artsyles], and immense detail on the ssj transformations like the aura and hair colour of ssjgod and blue. Am not much of a fan for the dbz artsyle but the buu saga really took dbz art to its peak but to me dbs artsyle for the first 2 films is peak. Plus tbh i love all the db artsyles from there respectively parts of the story and the fact that they change and experiment on the new versions of artsyles makes the audience indulge in db even more it's very refreshing cuz it creates more love of different versions of art and makes db kinda unique from other animes
Nobody talks about the super dragon ball heroes animation which matches the dbz opening animation. That style is easily the best. Shintani is a close second.
This is just my thoughts on the different styles from looking at the series. LMK what your favorite style was!
Buu Saga, DBS Broly artstyle and the Takahashi Tournament of Power artstyle are peak in my opinion
Where would you have put Yo Son Goku & His Friends Return?
@@theomnigamer9177 I haven't watched that in a long time. If I remember correctly didn't it look like supers art style? If I'm wrong then I can go look at it and give you a real answer.
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@@JakeRider-wc6ke the battle of gods song?
shintani's style and the fusion reborn's art style are db's peak for me
Nah putting GT in F tier is crazy
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Agreed, not saying it was perfect or that GT wasn't the weakest series but that color scheme was the best
@@jamespuso1627the characters skin are red
@@jamespuso1627respect you, but I disagree, the GT color palette is way too washed out for me.
All I want is for the broly movie artstyle to stay 😭
Yea it'll be really cool to see it again but I think daima has a similar look with a few subtle changes so I'm excited for that as well
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Or Tourament Of Power Arc artstyle
@@trevoranthony3018 I could take it or leave it.
If they make the Moro arc next it would be animated by the animator in dbs: broly because it takes place after the movie lol
I see Yuya Takahashi didn't get any credit for his skill in DB Super: Broly. His drawing is a lot better than some of the artists mentioned.
Agreed, but the Artists Mentioned are mostly the Character Designers dictacting the Style of the Arc
@@mikay7866 Takahashi's artwork is PERFECT. He made a masterpiece with the fight scene at the beginning of the movie.
or chikashi kubota for his bit in the broly movie and the whole intro dbs super hero
Dragon Ball to Early DBZ/Frieza Saga’s art styles are my personal favorites. I just love the rounder look of the characters
Also I love Goku's smaller pupils in the OG Dragon Ball and Early DBZ, it looked more fierce and serious. Now Android/Cell saga onwards, his pupils look big making him look like a kid.
For me personally, the Buu saga artstyle and the Broly style are the best, followed by the Yuya Takahashi Tournament of Power artstyle.
The 2D Superhero artstyle was also really great, I didn't care much for the 3D art but it wasn't overly terrible. I enjoy the Frieza saga artstyle as well.
I also agree on both Broly movies as well
2D art was done entirely by Chikashi Kubota as he said he didn't want the entire movie to be CG. He decided to perfectly emulate the style that each era the anime has, and did it better than anyone else before hand
AMEN BROTHER! Old Yamamuro & Z/DBZ Takahashi were the GOATS 👑
@@LSSJTHORTakahashi never worked on DBZ, he started to work on the franchise in Super.
The Buu saga art is great, it's true. The only problem I see there is that they sometimes abused on the muscles. But the real problem is not dedicated to the art style but to the Toei. I know Goku was not an idiot-looking back then, but they made him too serious. It added to his portrayal as a hero whereas he's not a hero.
GT style is 2nd to the Buu saga style in my opinion. it's only the muted colors I didn't like. But in term of drawing, it's very very good.
“Ears do look questionably large on many characters as well”
You can’t be talking with them big ass ears on YOUR character 💀
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😂😂@@KeyReviewsOfficial
Bro 😭😭😭
that roast is fire
@@KeyReviewsOfficialNgl, you walked into that! 😂
Take that back about GT, my guy
Haha I personally didn't like the GT style
Gt looks ugly
Old Yamamuro & Takahashi were the best. But I think GT is A/B tier. (Hated the character designs but the line art was great) Ssj4 was 🔥
@@LSSJTHOR Nakatsuru was so good though i don't get it, and he's back for daima and it seems he is still fucking goated i cant wait
Db something unique like gears of war does: In Gears of war Universe the people are more bigger than the people here and in Dragon everyone has normally big Ears ! Tada!!!!
Late DB to Freeza is my favorite era of the art style. I just liked the rounder evolved look from early DB and early sharp look of this era.
He's speaking the language of the Gods- the art of speaking facts
I guess you dont mind being wrong either😂
JK art is art.🤘🏻 Old Yamamuro & Takahashi are gods.
Also Goku had this sharp "small pupil" that looks fierce and more serious.
I was surprised and happy when i saw the daima trailer as it had good looking art style so that kinda confirmed for me that whenever the moro and granolah arcs are finally animated they may have a similar or even better art style
unrelated, but i just love your commentary so much, you're able to word yourself in a way so succinctly and yet so eloquently that you perfectly keep my interest engaged throughout every video of yours I watch and it's refreshing to hear well written and well spoken commentary. Keep up the videos!
Wow! Glad to hear it man I appreciate the comment a lot! Thank you for the support
This is hardly unrelated -- this is a great comment and I watched the video because of it lol
This felt so refreshing to watch! Really well done video! Editing was fantastic as well!
Glad you enjoyed it!
GT is B tier Super is F tier that's the changes that need to be made.
Nah, who let bro cook😂
I get that this is subjective, but holy cow man.
To start off nicely, DB’s art style is generally agreeable. It’s not exactly peak, but it’s cute and it evolves just enough to capture the tension of the piccolo fights.
Saiyan Saga’s art is so easy on the eyes that it’s hard to really hate. Even the “rough around the edges” aspects tie nicely into the visual language of Vegeta (for instance) in relation to his more refined proportions by the end of Z. That twitter meme saying “Vegeta’s chin got the most development” is 100% accurate in the best way possible. He LOOKS like an arrogant prince with a lot to learn, something that modern Yamamuro’s art can’t quite capture. In short, its unrefined look is its greatest strength and should be an easy A tier.
Namek looks good when Ebisawa isn’t animating😂, this arc can look fugly at times! Though Frieza’s softer eyebrows in his final form look great and I’m disappointed that it took Shintani to bring them back in the Broly movie.
The Android/Cell Saga develops a LOT of differences from the Namek Saga as it gets closer to the Cell games. Around the time that Cell arrives and transforms is where Tadayoshi Yamamoro comes in and gives us his signature strong proportions with Kamiccalo, Super Vegeta, and SSJ2 Gohan to name a few. I do believe that researching exactly who drew these arcs does highlight quite a lot of differences and gives more depth to the opinions presented.
Buu’s art is peak Z, agreeably, but it’s not without its jarringly ugly spots. There’s one instance that comes to mind where Goku and Majin Vegeta “agree” to refocus on Buu and it’s drawn twice by two different teams as a cliffhanger and a post credits opener. Seeing the B team’s version in comparison to the cliffhanger is wack AF, And once you notice it, you see that the B team have been around since the Android Saga at least and most of Z looks way worse in my mind for it😂.
There is no universe in which GT’s art is worse than Super’s. I’m sorry but I’d prefer David Yate’s GT with its occasionally mucky color palette than having my retinas burned by Super’s art style. Even the TOP’s bright colors look BLOWN OUT, just look at SSBE Vegeta and MUI Goku’s auras when they transform. They look dangerously bright on the eyes!
Shintani’s Broly art is peak DBS, but there are times where the composition between characters and the backgrounds don’t quite jive well together. These are few and far between, but one notable example is the POV sequence when Broly is zoning in on Goku, firing ki blasts at him, and punching him through mountains. The hands firing the ki blasts in that sequence look like Gumball putting his “how to basic-esque” sandwich together with the flat motion and lack of foreshortening. Still a great fight and art style, but a bit too experimental and hit or miss with some scenes.
DBS Super Hero is certainly the best that CG Dragon ball has looked, but dear God do the scenes with Goku and Vegeta on Beerus’s planet look unfinished! Still strange how the prettiest scene in the film is the 2d drawn series recap at the beginning😂.
We simply do not know enough about Daima to give it a verdict, but this is probably the most faithful art style in adapting modern Toriyama’s illustrations. The bubbly proportions are explicitly meant to transcribe his modern chibi look and it looks great so far!
Overall, I guess my main issue with this tier list is that, without extensive research on who drew the series at what point and what went wrong or right, a lot of the rankings seem more aggravating. No crucifixion was intended with this comment, and I do understand not turning this video into a thirty minute rehash of what Totally Not Mark, Anime Ajay, etc. have educated us on.
Saying the cell saga is similar to the frieza saga but making separate tiers for saiyan and frieza, which are absolutely identical is dead crazy to me.
Bro really put Super in C and GT in F. 💀💀
This is cool. I love the Buu Arc style best. GT is too clean. The Dragon Ball Movie 4 The Path To Power is the perfect combination style of the Buu Arc & GT. Honestly I would love to reschedule the entire Dragon Ball saga in that specific part style..
What GT has one of the best styles in the entire Series top 3
Really? I just didn't like it much growing up due to the colors and the off model designs
@@KeyReviewsOfficialversus the early Super Art?
Oh god-
@@KeyReviewsOfficial looking back it was more on model than off & kinda followed the style Toriyama was taking at that time. It felt like a continuation of the Buu arc style. Also with the colors such as Goku’s tan came from how Toriyama would draw him & the character designs were by Toriyama so compared to supers early stuff I’d put this way above that
I'd say GT's color pallet wasn't great but to give it F tier is absolutely ridiculous.
Buu, cell, and broly animation is peak
Not gonna lie I kinda vibe with this list. I think simplicity and colors work with the dynamic fighting better than a shiny stiff one. It just let the animators make the fights smoother. For GT......its like they turned up the shiny highlights and turned down the contrast. GT's designs are sick (other than the Frieza and Cell ones) and just needed vibrant colors. Go back and look at Goku's gi on Namek in 1080p it's magnificent 👌
Cant wait to see dragon ball super 2's artstyle on this list in 3024💀
Honestly you're kinda right about GT's artstyle, but F tier? If Early DBS got a C tier both the Saiyan arc and GT deserve at least the B tier
In one saga can be different styles, no just one per saga
fr like how buu saga had the most majestic shots followed by some random yee yee ass namek saga ass artstyle. probs would be more accurate if based on movies, imo Fusion Reborn had the best artstyle
the 90's and dbs broly art are my two favorite art styles
i think what really makes DBS broly's art style stick out the most is the simple shading/lighting and that hand drawn feel. it gives the characters the life they needed behind those dead, over-saturated eyes 😭
the problem with super was that 2015 kids youtube channel color palette, and the over used 3 tone shading. it just made a lot of characters look so oily in a lot of scenes idk. I really hope we get to see the broly art style again
My personal favorites are the 23rd tenkaichi and Shintani's art style. Both of these I absolutely love. Just to be clear Dragon Ball has always been hand drawn outside of Super Hero. Daima is also supposed to be more like current Akira Toriyama's art style as his style hasn't been consistent. You can often see how his style has changed with the Dragon Quest Series as he's the main artist for that series as well. I also saw a ton of Naotoshi Shida showcases which is nice because he's been on the series since early Dragon Ball, with his most famous scene from early dragon ball being one of the fights between Goku and Krillin in the 21st tenkaichi.
Also the hand drawn sequences in Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero were all done exclusively by Chikashi Kubota. He did the opening and all of those 2D flash backs himself. Much of the 2D effects were handled by various artists at toei.
Gt’s “lighting issue” comes from the fact that by the time they released it the film had already started to age.
Guys can anyone tell me what is this version of release used for dragon ball z it looks so sharp and good.... Is it blueray version available still?
I suppose it's dbz kai?
@@Ashley_Prides kai are u sure?
Does kai have 16:9 ratio?
9:49 i absolutely love the colors and the big fluffier hair in the broly movie art style lol
RIP Akira Toriyama you were the goat
DBS Broly is number 1, theirs no arguing
In animation, not art
@@Drumicallcompletely disagree.
Not art? You are joking right?@Drumicall
@@Drumicall It's number 1 in both animation and art
You can't rank DBS broly over the OG DBZ the design is just better 👌
THE CELL SAGA DEFINITELY LOOKS DIFFERENT THAN FRIEZA
If Dbs is returning
I hope they use Shintani style it's just looks more Fluid and smooth
One of the only ones where Z tier is actually really good.
Kinda like the A card in a deck.
Joker card*
You know you’re doing great when I’m getting dragon ball ads before seeing these videos. 😂
DBS broly's artstyle's lineart reminds me a lot to the gritty and bold lineart of masaki sato from the earlier parts of dbz and the later ones of db and i love it
TH-cam, I wouldn’t allow 0:31
Dragon ball "guys we need a way to keep the characters from ageing/die" *turns them in to kids*
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While I do agree with the rest of the video, I gotta join the group saying “Early Super isn’t above GT.” Personal thing, I liked the GT artstyle. Though it does feel washed out and weird looking (especially the Shenron scene you showed), the backdrops for the Baby fight, the Dragon Fist against Eis, and Super 17’s fight look super nice. BoG’s Super arc just looks…so bad. The shading there is even more flat than GT’s, imo. Coming in as a recent DB fan, take that as you will.
And katsuyoshi nakatsuru was the charcter designer for the buu saga
If super was remastered with shintami animation and a slightly different story line that didn't have bad parts like super immediately using ssjb
Nah, you were smoking crack for putting GT in F
anything that is not stiff or plastic looking is sorta acceptable. What I really think they still needed to improve in DBS was movement and sense of impact. Hope they improve that as well
I lowkey loved the Takahashi art style in the ToP. Those shades are *chefskiss*
My favorite and the best overall Dragon Ball art has to be episode 114 of Super with Yuya Takahashi as the animator. This guy's detailing is jaw dropping with 3 and sometimes 4 gradients of shading. A very strong callback to Z.
super broly and the current manga art style are definitely my fav art styles
kinda dumb video. There's various AD's in the show, so there isn't a style. It changes in every episode. You could have Masunaga gorgeous artstyle and then the next episode the Uchiyama ugly style.
for me the Broly art style suit the franchise the most since it a perfect combining between manga and anime artstyle unlike early day super the artstyle feel blocky and weird more like i was watching a bunch of anime figure fighting in slow motion, glad they fix everything in the top arc
Same but we only feel it's best because we haven't seen better, I've seen different concepts that fit way better, i have them in a folder
Here’s my list:
Animation smoothness: dbs broly
Art style:
all except dbs show and gt
Scenery: db path to power
Colour palette: db path to power
Choreography: dbs broly
Character designs: dbz
Reply with yours.
See, in ye olde cell animation, when a character stood completely still there would still be 2 or 3 different drawings of the same image. So even standing around doing nothing, it still looked like they were breathing or a slight breaze was going by. Shintani doesnt need to stretch anything out but his shot of goku in the trailer was just goku standing in the wind with his hair and gee fluttering lookef great. I think super looks like a lazy power point so much of the time.
DBZ from Cell Saga to Buu saga is the top tier animation for me
seeing super in A and gt in F is hilarious
Not really.
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@@Say_King77 it isn't.
I do like that Daima does look like a cleaner version of Shintani's models, especially because its directed by Nakatsuru (GT's character designer) so some things I didnt like in the DBS Broly movie seem to be fixed, like the overly grainy outlines, overly rounded features, and lack of a jawline on the characters at times. Like Goku. Only thing I don't really like is the return of the hair highlights on Goku. It just looks better when its solid black or only using a second shade for scenery lighting but Z never had that. I also kind of miss the more muted/darker colors in the DBS Broly movie a bit more. I think the Daima colors look a bit too bright, even for Z and reminds me more of BOG's color palette.
I'm sorry but even in the clips you showed, you can see the inconsistencies in DBS's animation both in the early stages and during the ToP arc. They only used really good animation in VERY short bursts during the climax/end of important fights and the action still seemed far from what we got in Z and GT most of the time. I still cant believe you put BOTH iterations of DBS over GT lmao I wish we could do a global poll of animation styles I'm curious if this is a widely held opinion.
@Scoundr3ll I made this video a bit ago, and my opinion has changed. I would definitely put GT over super from the start up until the tournament of power, but I perfer the tournament of power style more than GT. Growing up watching GT, I never really liked the style tbh
My will always be dragon ball 23rd tournament all the way through Saiyan saga the shading and roundness and bulkiness of Goku was so awesome
Daima artstyle is based off modern toriyama art
You really criticized gt Goku not having that chubby young look and that would be a fair criticism if Goku was an actual kid instead of an adult who was at his peak physical form with fully developed muscles I think giving GT Goku the chubby look like OG Dragonball wouldn’t make sense to me since he is at a completely different physical status then when he was a child
I didnt criticism gt for not having chubby goku. I pointed the differences between GT and the original series
Cell Saga / Buu Saga ORIGINAL animation on average had pretty good quality animation.
Super Sayins looked knida angelic in away how they did their eyes and almost white/beige/light gold color. Like SERIOUSLY!
compare the overall SS 1 transformation from Super to Cell or Buu Saga SS, man. . . its sad to see Super suffered from animators being given such little time to work on the show
The Super Broly artstyle is my favorite
Wow. I agree with everything here. That's really rare. Nice video.
Is that the girl from scientific railgun on your pfp?
Best art style: Goku VS Vegeta( Buu Saga) Goku VS Kid Buu
Pre time Skip OG Dragonball is still the best for me. Also this was peak Goku. He was so charming and likeable.
Rip akira toriyama
to be honest the og looked best to me cuz of the eyes
dbs broly looks neat cuz of the shading and shape
so if we mix those together we have the perfect style
Switch the Gohan/Piccolo movie with GT and I would agree.
i would 100% pick the og art style over DBS style. It just IS.
Great review daima looks amazing only thing I would change is the android saga that has to be z tier
It's a shame the worst arc had the best animation. I think by the Cell Games though it looks basically the same. Around the time Piccolo is fighting 17 there's a noticeable difference.
I didnt even know daima was out wtf is wrong with me💀
I personally love gt the most and I got the feeling many people do too it's just a common misconception
Whatever its Dragon ballz series art style is OG ❤
Let's be honest, bulma in 3d gyatt dayum
I feel like putting all of the first few sagas of super is unfair because the universe six tournament and goku black arc had extremely good moments
Whis and beerus look like video game characters in dbs superheroe
i agree shintani artstyle is my favorite
putting DBSSH in B is absolutely Psychotic to me. But i understand your reasons.
Am I the only one who notices the qualitative difference in the drawings at minute 5:10 or 5:28 with that of minutes 5:07 or 5:36? Pause if necessary. The definition of the muscles or the face changed from episode to episode. I remember that usually, in all of Dragon Ball Z, there was one episode that was very well drawn, one that was mediocre, and one that was drawn and animated very badly. Can anyone tell me why?
Old Tadayoshi Yamamuro & Yuya Takahashi are 👑! THE BEST!
Your pacing is great
Gt art could do better
The start reminded me of “BULMA WHERE ARE YOUR BALLS”
How did we skip cell.l saga? There's a big difference from Friezq to cell especially near it's ending
id put super hero movie in A tier and broly movie in B tier
GT and Z art style are top tier to me
Bro what is this BS , Super is F tier its only some shoots in Super where it looked good but not even near as good as it was in the Buu saga and GT !! Wtffffffff 😂😂😂😂😂😂 they should just keept the buu saga style and maybe made it a mix with with the shoots from the fight between Goku and Jiren going full power.
Dragonball Super characters look rather look like they were made by Ichiro Ooda (creator of One Piece). Goku sometimes looks low key like luffy in Super
for me Supers artstyle is the worst, the battles seem like theres no struggle at all since the only thing that gets damage are clothes (i know the manga has it, and the anime censored it to make it more child friendly)
the scratches and blood on Z, GT and even OG was way better
This video is pretty fair but in my opinion the dbs artsyle is my favourite...to be precise the dbs artsyle version of battle of gods and resurrection f films. They looked clean with with fluid motion, bright colours[I like bright artsyles], and immense detail on the ssj transformations like the aura and hair colour of ssjgod and blue. Am not much of a fan for the dbz artsyle but the buu saga really took dbz art to its peak but to me dbs artsyle for the first 2 films is peak. Plus tbh i love all the db artsyles from there respectively parts of the story and the fact that they change and experiment on the new versions of artsyles makes the audience indulge in db even more it's very refreshing cuz it creates more love of different versions of art and makes db kinda unique from other animes
Dragon Ball diama a mix of the Broly movie and Dragon Ball super resurrection f
Some opinions are so bad they need to not be shared online.
Thanks for the huge cap but stay away from the kitchen next time 😂💀
What didn't you agree with
Nobody talks about the super dragon ball heroes animation which matches the dbz opening animation. That style is easily the best. Shintani is a close second.
They need to be consistent in artstyle like all episodes either in z level artstyle or trash don't mix good artstyle with bad artstyle 🫠
Putting GT in F but Super higher is just wrong.
"art is subjective"
If DBS returns one day, I think it should take Shintani's/end of dbs'/ daima's style back but I NEED a db remake with the 2d Super Hero style
that'll be really cool if they did that for DB.
If GT gets F then early Fuper deserves F or worse aswell
Who paid you to put GT below Super?
Actually, who hit you over the head with an aluminium bat to put Super anywhere BUT the dumpster?
Budokai 2 & 3 opening s are the best DBZ has ever looked new broly and Buu saga are really good and belong in z tier
Really ranking super above GT, it feels like theres some prejudice there, Super artstyle feels so rushed while GT is a lot more detailed.
Nope that’s the animation that’s rushed not that I like super art style but that’s objectively wrong 😅 sorry if this sounds a bit mean!